Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker

Wednesday, January 3rd, 2018 12:25PM CST

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Well, Takara's MP-39 Sunstreaker is finally upon us, the long lost brother to MP-12 has finally made it to collector's hands! And this figure has dazzled several Seibertron members, one of whom wrote us a great pictorial review of the figure.

Friend of the site and Masterpiece extraordinaire Ironhidensh has written us this awesome review of the new Masterpiece from Takara, or as he calls it, a "sleeper MP". You will find below his thoughts on the figure in robot mode, car mode, Transformation, and overall how much fun it is.

If a video review is more your style, feel free to check out our Previous video review.

Without Further ado, take it away Densh!

Ironhidensh wrote:

So, I kinda feel like this guy is a bit of a sleeper MP. There really hasn't been a whole lot of excitement and build up for his release. At least, that's how I feel, and that's a shame. This guy is absolutely amazing. Seriously, I've only had him in hand for about 48 hours, but I'm ready to put his right at the top of the list of MP figures. Not only that, but its been a hot minute since we got a new carbot, so its nice to get back to that. Lets start of with the alt mode.

Takara really out did themselves this time. They packed a whole lot of awesome into a really small package. Sunny is a standard MP car size, and yet, along with being fully transformable to an amazing robot mode, he actually has two car modes. A standard Countach:

And a "Super Lambo":

Sunstreaker comes with two weapons, and the ability to store them both, at least in super mode. I don't think it works in "regular" Countach mode. Still though, a true MP needs the ability to carry or store its weapons while in alt mode, and Sunny passes the test.

Another neat little add on, you may remember in the original G1 cartoon, in the very first episode (or at least in one of the first parts of the first episode) the scene where Trailbreaker calls for back up, and Sunstreaker and Sideswipe answer the call. Sunny pops a little laser gun out of his backside, and blasts away at the Seekers chasing them. Yep, Sunny here can do that.

I was actually going to recreate the scene, but this little project was taking longer than I thought, and I didn't want to transform my MP Sideswipe and Trailbreaker, which is the sole reason you will see 'Breaker in a later photo.

Yes, Sunny is a truly beautiful car mode, and he still has one more really cool and neat feature: pop up headlights!

Its just a really neat and cool feature. It shows the effort, and dare I say, even love of character that obviously went into the design of Sunny. His doors and hood also open up like the real vehicle, but for me, it just exposes the inner workings of the toy. Nice, but not a huge feature for me. I really only have one gripe on car mode, and that is the plastic tires. God, how I hate the plastic tires. Yes, its a dead horse, but Imma keep beating that ****.

Now done with alt mode, we move on to the main event, the robot. The transformation to bot mode is actually fun. With many MP style figures it can be a pain. An amazing one, but a pain still. I really don't think that with Sunny. Its fun and inspired. Honestly, words don't do it justice, you just need to experience it. Here is the glorious result:

Its very toon accurate. Maybe a little too much in spots. For my tastes, I would have appreciated a different head, but nothing is close to a deal breaker. He does have a bit of a backpack though, but I'm making peace with backpacks on MPs. In fact, I'm starting a little club.

He does look good though. He also comes with a lot of accessories. As mentioned, he had two guns:

That he can store in bot mode as well:

I find the leg storage and very neat little trick. He also, as is pretty standard by now with MP figures, comes with alternate faces:

He also comes with a Chip Chase in wheelchair figure, and that silly alien face from a season 2 episode:

When you stand him next to his brother Sideswipe, I feel he clearly stands out as the better looking figure, and not just in his own mind. I've felt for a while now that we need a new Sideswipe, and in my humble opinion at least, Sunstreaker really drives that home. Not that Sideswipe is a bad figure, but you can clearly tell the designers have learned a thing or two. Sunny also looks good with others:

A concern I read early in the thread mentioned his side view mirrors and the possibility of breakage during transformation. While I can see that, I had no difficulty changing him with out damage there. I think that clearance room was very much taken into consideration during design, and that every thing works just fine. If not, Takara has you covered as they have added a replacement set:

This is a very welcome habit that Takara has gotten into.

In conclusion, I have almost no complaints on this figure. Sunstreaker is an amazing work of art, and a worthy addition to any collection. I really can't recommend this figure enough.

Credit(s): Ironhidensh

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Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929465)
Posted by Quantum Surge on January 3rd, 2018 @ 12:44pm CST

I feel a lot of MPs look naked starting with MP Magnus since they wanted to make them be ultra cartoon accurate; sure, that's Takara's goal, but I like the more realistic look of Sideswipe and Prowl.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929520)
Posted by Burn on January 3rd, 2018 @ 2:41pm CST

If there's one persons opinion I value on this site when it comes to figures, it's Ironhidensh, more so when it comes to MP's because I know he can be more of a 3P guy.

So for a 3P guy to endorse a TakaraTomy figure, that's a good thing. Might have to bite the bullet and get him sent earlier than I planned.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929565)
Posted by kurthy on January 3rd, 2018 @ 5:50pm CST

I had a grand total of two superfluous issues with sunny when I opened him today.
1. Chip doesn't peg into his wheelchair.
2. Autobot symbol buttflap.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929566)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 3rd, 2018 @ 6:08pm CST

Takara actually molded the "Countach" logo in him is AMAZING! Lambor just had tampos!

Also, it's best to suspend judgement until you actually have the item inhand as not all product are photogenic at the getgo.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929568)
Posted by Burn on January 3rd, 2018 @ 6:14pm CST

fenrir72 wrote:Also, it's best to suspend judgement until you actually have the item inhand as not all product are photogenic at the getgo.

You go right ahead and do that, I however, am more than happy to take Ironhidensh's word on such things.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929569)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 3rd, 2018 @ 6:24pm CST

Burn wrote:You go right ahead and do that, I however, am more than happy to take Ironhidensh's word on such things.

And just like that, the power of friendship has made your collection even better :-D

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929585)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 3rd, 2018 @ 8:12pm CST

Burn wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Also, it's best to suspend judgement until you actually have the item inhand as not all product are photogenic at the getgo.

You go right ahead and do that, I however, am more than happy to take Ironhidensh's word on such things.

Use negative hyperbole in describing product you haven't handled first then heap high hosannas once in your hands. Kind of like being guilty first and prove yourself innocent later.So being biased is a good thing now. 8-}

Got it! (Reminds me of MP Megs' paint chipping off the moment he was taken outta the box...... :lol:

)

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929595)
Posted by Burn on January 3rd, 2018 @ 10:03pm CST

fenrir72 wrote:
Burn wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Also, it's best to suspend judgement until you actually have the item inhand as not all product are photogenic at the getgo.

You go right ahead and do that, I however, am more than happy to take Ironhidensh's word on such things.

Use negative hyperbole in describing product you haven't handled first then heap high hosannas once in your hands. Kind of like being guilty first and prove yourself innocent later.So being biased is a good thing now.

Got it! (Reminds me of MP Megs' paint chipping off the moment he was taken outta the box...... )

Bias? How am I bias?

Let me put this in simple terms.

I value Ironhidenshs opinion over anything that spews from your mouth for the simple fact, he can talk pros and cons, you seem intent to just tow the party line and tell everyone to buy official.

I won't be wasting any further time explaining myself to you.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929647)
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 4th, 2018 @ 6:10am CST

Burn wrote:If there's one persons opinion I value on this site when it comes to figures, it's Ironhidensh, more so when it comes to MP's because I know he can be more of a 3P guy.

So for a 3P guy to endorse a TakaraTomy figure, that's a good thing. Might have to bite the bullet and get him sent earlier than I planned.

Burn, you legit made me blush......

I really hate to encourage anyone to pay extra shipping charges, but this figure is really something. Its like after they made the new Megatron, they sat down and said "how do we top this?" The answer was Sunny.

The 'butt flap' doesn't bother me, as it isn't intrusive or obvious, like Ultra Magnus's.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929649)
Posted by Burn on January 4th, 2018 @ 6:15am CST

Plus, how many people actually display their Transformers with their backs facing the front?

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929665)
Posted by kurthy on January 4th, 2018 @ 7:56am CST

Burn wrote:Plus, how many people actually display their Transformers with their backs facing the front?

I actually play with my toys, thank you very much.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929733)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2018 @ 10:43am CST

Seeing all the praise, and now owning Sideswipe, I'll think about Sunny. He may take a while to actually buy, but if he's still in stock sometime down the road, I may get him when I have some money and more interest

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929774)
Posted by ReinaHW on January 4th, 2018 @ 1:24pm CST

Word of warning with MP Sunstreaker, his alt mode windshield is held on by two thin blue clips that are designed to be slid onto a wedge piece should it come off. However those clips are so thin that they begin to weaken and snap quite quickly, as I found out with mine when transforming him back to his alt mode and one of the blue clips snapped off, it's disappeared somewhere on a blue carpet so I've had to use hobby glue to keep the windshield in place and leave him mistransformed for the time being.

Be really careful when transforming him since even the lightest amount of force can cause those clips to snap easily.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929791)
Posted by Burn on January 4th, 2018 @ 3:25pm CST

kurthy wrote:
Burn wrote:Plus, how many people actually display their Transformers with their backs facing the front?

I actually play with my toys, thank you very much.

So ... you like to check out robo-butts then?

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929793)
Posted by Seibertron on January 4th, 2018 @ 3:37pm CST

Quantum Surge wrote:I feel a lot of MPs look naked starting with MP Magnus since they wanted to make them be ultra cartoon accurate; sure, that's Takara's goal, but I like the more realistic look of Sideswipe and Prowl.

I 100% agree, and toss in Wheeljack as well. I'm not a fan of the less detailed cartoon look either. Ultimately, I want the cartoon look but with toy or manga detailing. Sunstreaker REALLY needs his G1 toy head or at least at a minimum he needed the side vents where the yellow "ears" are. However, since his head is on a simple ball joint, I have a feeling they might give us that head piece with a red Diaclone version of this toy at some point.

Great toy, I'm not a fan of the fake chest syndrome that Sunstreaker and Dinobot have, but they pulled off the fake chest really well, so I'll give it a pass. Plus I don't know how else they'd do their chests if they didn't cheat and if you didn't want the goofy chests both of their original toys had.

Just to clarify, I'm looking for the extra "real world" detailing from the toys or manga, not the smooth panels we've been getting since Ultra Magnus.

One thing I love with Transformers toys is when we get treated to a new method of transforming a figure. I really like how Sunstreaker was designed so that his "flip out" hands don't leave a hole in the underside of his forearms, which was a big problem with Masterpiece Bumblebee who was left with gaping holes on the interior sides of his forearms. It's a shame they weren't able to execute this solution on Bumblebee. I will happily take this solution going forward on any Transformers toy so as to avoid the forearm-hole-where-the-fist-was problem.

Overall, I think Sunstreaker is a fantastic figure ... just wish he had his more detailed toy or Classics Universe Sunstreaker head.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929812)
Posted by Cyberpath on January 4th, 2018 @ 4:43pm CST

Mine arrived today! Some initial thoughts. MP-39 looks as perfect as possible in all modes. There's no one quite in Takara's league when it comes to Masterpieces.

Paint looks great. Articulation's as good as always, maybe even a step up in some areas. I like the new feature that they've included in most recent figures where the head can move forward, in case you're looking up at the figure, like if it's standing on a high shelf. (Tracks has it, Ironhide/Ratchet, Inferno/Grapple, Megatron and now Sunstreaker.)

Transformation was frustrating, but they usually are the first time. Hope to master it after some practice. Good thing that there are step-by-step demos on Youtube 'cause the manual's so complex.

I actually like that Takara has started to edit down the robot greeble, instead drawing detail from the cartoon and transformation seams and whatever other by-product of this kind a toy. But I do think they should tampo the car's emblems. What's up with leaving out the Lamborghini bull after including symbols on previous cars? It really doesn't take away from the cartoon-accuracy or whatever.

The doors, hood and light poppin is fun. As well as the option to switch between the hot rod mode and the real-world Countach.

And I do like the plastic tires, they make a "vroom" sound + I don't have to worry about rubber rut.

Anyway, I have every "Trans-Europe Express" Autobot on my desk right now.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929813)
Posted by Cyberpath on January 4th, 2018 @ 4:50pm CST

Ironhide's jet effects are also compatible with Sunstreaker's pack.

Source: @FlyingJackman

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929814)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 4th, 2018 @ 4:53pm CST

Really nice catch, Cyberpath. The head movement forward is a really nice touch. (I also love it when figures can look up 90°, so you can do a flying pose with them looking forward.) EDIT: and the jets! That makes the backpack quite a bit more acceptable.

Seems like they are making great decisions regarding transformation, plastic tires, tampos, etc.

BUT I can't help but think I'd love to see a more toy accurate release (seeing that they are doing the same for Sideswipe, Red Alert, etc.) which might feature alternate head and more greebling on chest (three notches), front of legs, and other very-flat places.

I think Takara just overshot with the cartoon look. I think they could back off 10% and give a nice compromise with a LITTLE bit more detail from the toys.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929819)
Posted by Emerje on January 4th, 2018 @ 5:26pm CST

Burn wrote:If there's one persons opinion I value on this site when it comes to figures, it's Ironhidensh, more so when it comes to MP's because I know he can be more of a 3P guy.

Same, though his opinion doesn't really sway me away from buying a figure since our tastes and standards are different, but I know if he likes it then it must be a worthwhile figure.

Hopefully my Sunstreaker will arrive next week (along with MP Black Convoy).

Emerje

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929844)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 4th, 2018 @ 6:41pm CST

Burn wrote:
kurthy wrote:
Burn wrote:Plus, how many people actually display their Transformers with their backs facing the front?

I actually play with my toys, thank you very much.

So ... you like to check out robo-butts then?

Doesn't everyone?

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929941)
Posted by ReinaHW on January 5th, 2018 @ 6:48am CST

Just had to do a fist bump photo after the repairs were completed

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1929944)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 5th, 2018 @ 7:14am CST

I have to admit my very first reaction to Sunstreaker after I got him into robot mode was "eh". Transformation was kind of a pain but that's because I refuse to use instructions. I like to figure it out myself with only the packaging images as a guide. But after holding him for longer than a few seconds and fiddling around with him I started seeing what everyone else was saying. This guy is crazy poseable and just all around fun. Having played around with him for the better part of an evening I can honestly say he's one of my favorite MP's.

The only thing I really don't like is the conversion from regular car to super car. I assume it's because I've only transformed him completely one time and haven't mastered it but the tail light covers are super annoying to flip around on mine and the whole back end conversation is a bit cumbersome. But like I said that could very well just be my fault.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930536)
Posted by sol magnus on January 8th, 2018 @ 10:49pm CST

bigcee66 wrote:I guess I'm the minority, but I'm cool with them looking more like the cartoon.

I'm not slavishly devoted to it, but I don't have a problem with it, either. MP-10 was a good compromise to this.

I got my Sunstreaker and good googa mooga is he complicated to transform. You almost might want to get two of them to enjoy the car mode, because my take on contant transformation is that he will get loose and degrade more quickly than perhaps others would. I give him a 4 out of 5 stars.

Mine are pretty much statues that occasionally change poses, anyway.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930538)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 8th, 2018 @ 11:10pm CST

For those interested here's my review of Sunstreaker

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930605)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 9th, 2018 @ 10:58am CST

Regarding the cartoon or toy quandary, I think there is a sweet spot where you give each one a nod... and where extra parts (like the grille on Inferno) or alternate heads or faces can deliver for BOTH types of fans... (or those like me who like to switch their display between the two styles.) I hope Takara can lean that direction as much as humanly possible.

Maybe their red and police Sunstreakers can sport some toy accurate heads that can possibly be released on an upcoming more-toy-accurate issue of Sunstreaker. (one with smoke/clear windows instead of blue)

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930758)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 10th, 2018 @ 8:56am CST

I finally got my MP-39 Sunstreaker last night, and he is absolutely delightful! The extra articulation is welcome, and he looks great in car, super car, and especially (and most importantly) robot mode. This is quite the evolution for the Masterpiece line. I've got high hopes for Jazz, Hound, Trailbreaker, and Hoist now.

As for Sideswipe, I've seen people pining for a new version of him, to "better match" Sunstreaker. What would you really change mold-wise besides adding better articulation, though? Honestly, Sideswipe looks almost perfect in terms of screen accuracy, especially the "Anime Color" edition, despite a few funny proportions like his wide chest, which is a constraint of the transformation and vehicle mode scale. I'd much rather see Takara push forward with the rest of the Season 1 and 2 cast, including more of the minibots, than revisit a character already released by implementing small improvements.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930823)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 10th, 2018 @ 1:45pm CST

@WolfMan Jake - I wholeheartedly agree that I'd rather Takara forge ahead.

Sideswipe is already excellent. While there have been a few advancements, the thought of making one with the hood all chopped up to try to make it thinner, etc. doesn't appeal to me. Current version is close enough... looks great in both modes (close enough to toy and toon) and is – maybe as important — fun to play with and transform. I hope they don't lose sight of that important note.

The Ark crew is at the top of my list. Stoked for all those you mentioned, and also anxiously awaiting Mirage, the Minibots... not to mention Reflector, Insecticons, and other Dinos. Here's hoping.

Have to say, though, the first wave cars are at the top of my list.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930825)
Posted by Cyberpath on January 10th, 2018 @ 1:58pm CST

I think Sideswipe is still good.

Incidentally, someone made an interesting looking custom (that retains its ability to transform - with partforming though?), check it out --

More pix.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930842)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 10th, 2018 @ 3:04pm CST

gothsaurus wrote:The Ark crew is at the top of my list. Stoked for all those you mentioned, and also anxiously awaiting Mirage, the Minibots... not to mention Reflector, Insecticons, and other Dinos. Here's hoping.

I forgot all about poor Mirage. We need him too! Dang, there is still a loooong way to go to fill out even Season 1 roster characters in Masterpiece form.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930855)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 10th, 2018 @ 3:33pm CST

Damn that custom is awesome! I like Sideswipe and his repaints but I often feel that he is too "easy" for an MP. Like I can basically do the transformation blind folded in 20 seconds. Can't say the same thing about any of the others I own (especially Megatron who is the only MP I actually need the instructions for).

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930858)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 10th, 2018 @ 3:43pm CST

I think that's why I LIKED the earlier masterpieces. They feel like the original toy 'grown up'. Still fun to play with, seem like the same size as the originals did in our little kid hands, etc.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930907)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 10th, 2018 @ 11:20pm CST

gothsaurus wrote:@WolfMan Jake - I wholeheartedly agree that I'd rather Takara forge ahead.

Sideswipe is already excellent. While there have been a few advancements, the thought of making one with the hood all chopped up to try to make it thinner, etc. doesn't appeal to me. Current version is close enough... looks great in both modes (close enough to toy and toon) and is – maybe as important — fun to play with and transform. I hope they don't lose sight of that important note.

The Ark crew is at the top of my list. Stoked for all those you mentioned, and also anxiously awaiting Mirage, the Minibots... not to mention Reflector, Insecticons, and other Dinos. Here's hoping.

Have to say, though, the first wave cars are at the top of my list.

I'd really like a Cliffjumper or Windcharger; just to know we have the Porsche and Pontiact liscense.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930914)
Posted by Emerje on January 11th, 2018 @ 12:29am CST

I'm fine with Sideswipes body, but his toy-style head clashes too much with Sunstreaker's cartoon-style head for me. I feel like they really missed an opportunity to sculpt a new head when they did the cartoon repaint.

Emerje

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930931)
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 11th, 2018 @ 4:15am CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:I finally got my MP-39 Sunstreaker last night, and he is absolutely delightful! The extra articulation is welcome, and he looks great in car, super car, and especially (and most importantly) robot mode. This is quite the evolution for the Masterpiece line. I've got high hopes for Jazz, Hound, Trailbreaker, and Hoist now.

As for Sideswipe, I've seen people pining for a new version of him, to "better match" Sunstreaker. What would you really change mold-wise besides adding better articulation, though? Honestly, Sideswipe looks almost perfect in terms of screen accuracy, especially the "Anime Color" edition, despite a few funny proportions like his wide chest, which is a constraint of the transformation and vehicle mode scale. I'd much rather see Takara push forward with the rest of the Season 1 and 2 cast, including more of the minibots, than revisit a character already released by implementing small improvements.

I guess I didn't look at it from that point. I'm only missing 2 characters from season 1 (aside from the Dinobots which are too expensive for me right now), and they are both coming out this year.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930970)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 11th, 2018 @ 9:50am CST

just missing two... so I guess you are skipping/not interested in a few of the remaining Ark crew?

Anyone have confirmation on the G1 masterpiece releases this year?

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930971)
Posted by wilcosu35 on January 11th, 2018 @ 9:53am CST

Not from me, but i suspect we'll be seeing Blaster.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930973)
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 11th, 2018 @ 10:05am CST

gothsaurus wrote:just missing two... so I guess you are skipping/not interested in a few of the remaining Ark crew?

Anyone have confirmation on the G1 masterpiece releases this year?

no, I mean I'm only missing 2 original Ark crew members. Cliffjumper, and windcharger, and they are both getting made this year.

There are actually already offerings of them out there, but I personally don't care for them.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930975)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 11th, 2018 @ 10:10am CST

Ironhidensh wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:just missing two... so I guess you are skipping/not interested in a few of the remaining Ark crew?

Anyone have confirmation on the G1 masterpiece releases this year?

no, I mean I'm only missing 2 original Ark crew members. Cliffjumper, and windcharger, and they are both getting made this year.

There are actually already offerings of them out there, but I personally don't care for them.

Are you referring to 3rd party figures?

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930976)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2018 @ 10:12am CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:just missing two... so I guess you are skipping/not interested in a few of the remaining Ark crew?

Anyone have confirmation on the G1 masterpiece releases this year?

no, I mean I'm only missing 2 original Ark crew members. Cliffjumper, and windcharger, and they are both getting made this year.

There are actually already offerings of them out there, but I personally don't care for them.

Are you referring to 3rd party figures?

I am certain he is, he collects those too.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930977)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 11th, 2018 @ 10:13am CST

Good point. With one cassette mold already revealed, Blaster has to be coming soon. Bet it will be pricy, though. He's considerably larger than Soundwave in alt mode.

By my count, these are the missing Season 1 bots:
Hound, Jazz, Mirage, Trailbreaker + Hauler
Brawn, Cliffjumper, Gears, Huffer, Windcharger
Slag, Sludge, Snarl, Swoop
Jetfire
Reflector, Devastator
Kickback, Bombshell, Shrapnel

Season 2 missing (omitting Combiners):
Skids, Hoist
Warpath, Seaspray, Powerglide, Beachcomber, Cosmos, Outback, Pipes, Swerve, Tailgate, Hubcap
Omega Supreme

I think they have mentioned Trailbreaker, Hoist, Jetfire and Hound being in the works (?) I hope they get around to the Diaclone cars at least. I could see them doing the minibots who have easy retools. But guessing the others are further down their list, having less repaint/retool value.

And though they are season 3, I do hope they skip ahead and throw in Overkill and Slugfest for the cassette collectors out there. I know I'm one.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930980)
Posted by wilcosu35 on January 11th, 2018 @ 10:20am CST

I think a Grimlock would be needed too, since the original is out of scale compared to the rest of the MP's, not to mention a bit dated in design.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930981)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 11th, 2018 @ 10:22am CST

I totally agree with that. Grimlock was way too small.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930982)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 11th, 2018 @ 10:23am CST

gothsaurus wrote:Good point. With one cassette mold already revealed, Blaster has to be coming soon. Bet it will be pricy, though. He's considerably larger than Soundwave in alt mode.

By my count, these are the missing Season 1 bots:
Hound, Jazz, Mirage, Trailbreaker + Hauler
Brawn, Cliffjumper, Gears, Huffer, Windcharger
Slag, Sludge, Snarl, Swoop
Jetfire
Reflector, Devastator
Kickback, Bombshell, Shrapnel

Season 2 missing (omitting Combiners):
Skids, Hoist
Warpath, Seaspray, Powerglide, Beachcomber, Cosmos, Outback, Pipes, Swerve, Tailgate, Hubcap
Omega Supreme

I think they have mentioned Trailbreaker, Hoist, Jetfire and Hound being in the works (?) I hope they get around to the Diaclone cars at least. I could see them doing the minibots who have easy retools. But guessing the others are further down their list, having less repaint/retool value.

And though they are season 3, I do hope they skip ahead and throw in Overkill and Slugfest for the cassette collectors out there. I know I'm one.

Outback, Pipes, Swerve, Tailgate, and Hubcap are all Season 3 characters. They debuted in the "Five Faces of Darkness" miniseries that follows after "The Transformers: The Movie."

I can see Road/Load Hauler being done eventually as padding and a good reuse of the Grapple mold. Takara doesn't shy away from repaints with Masterpiece and has given us a considerable number of eHobby/Encore exclusive additions to G1 and Diaclone homages with the likes of Tigertrack, Clampdown, Road Rage, Delta Magnus, "Blue" Bluestreak, Silverstreak, Exhaust, Nemesis Prime/Black Convoy, Loudpedal, Stripes, Nighstalker, Enemy, Wingthing, Sunstorm and Acid Storm.

I'm sure Overkill and Slugfest are good possibilities. Takara has already strayed into Season 3 territory with the likes of Ultra Magnus and Hot Rod, so that's not off the table.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1930984)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2018 @ 10:37am CST

gothsaurus wrote:I think they have mentioned Trailbreaker, Hoist, Jetfire and Hound being in the works (?)

Not sure about Jetfire, I never heard that. And I realize now that is one toy I am not excited about for toon accuracy in alt mode.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1931000)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 11th, 2018 @ 11:18am CST

william-james88 wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:I think they have mentioned Trailbreaker, Hoist, Jetfire and Hound being in the works (?)

Not sure about Jetfire, I never heard that. And I realize now that is one toy I am not excited about for toon accuracy in alt mode.

The Jetfire rumor is a fairly old one. It popped up around the time those 3rd party ones were coming out.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1931001)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 11th, 2018 @ 11:23am CST

A hypothetical Masterpiece Sky/Jetfire brings up an interesting question. Just how far is Takara willing to go with cartoon scale accuracy when it comes to the bigger characters? Will they even dare to do any of the combiner teams/gestalts? How much would such figures cost!?

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1931003)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 11th, 2018 @ 11:39am CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:A hypothetical Masterpiece Sky/Jetfire brings up an interesting question. Just how far is Takara willing to go with cartoon scale accuracy when it comes to the bigger characters? Will they even dare to do any of the combiner teams/gestalts? How much would such figures cost!?

Now I don't know for sure but I'm pretty certain that Takara themselves said that they're weren't going any bigger than Star Saber

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1931013)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2018 @ 12:53pm CST

steals_your_goats wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:A hypothetical Masterpiece Sky/Jetfire brings up an interesting question. Just how far is Takara willing to go with cartoon scale accuracy when it comes to the bigger characters? Will they even dare to do any of the combiner teams/gestalts? How much would such figures cost!?

Now I don't know for sure but I'm pretty certain that Takara themselves said that they're weren't going any bigger than Star Saber

I remember something along those lines and it was further reinforced when they confirmed that there were no MP Combiners planned or even on the roadmap.

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1931016)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 11th, 2018 @ 1:05pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:A hypothetical Masterpiece Sky/Jetfire brings up an interesting question. Just how far is Takara willing to go with cartoon scale accuracy when it comes to the bigger characters? Will they even dare to do any of the combiner teams/gestalts? How much would such figures cost!?

Now I don't know for sure but I'm pretty certain that Takara themselves said that they're weren't going any bigger than Star Saber

I remember something along those lines and it was further reinforced when they confirmed that there were no MP Combiners planned or even on the roadmap.

I know they said they weren't doing MP combiners but I don't think the height limit would apply to them. I think the height limit only applies to individual bots so combiners would be safe. Though isn't Star Saber supposed to be the height of a combiner? So wouldn't that mess up everything if they eventually wanted to do MP combiners?

Re: Pictorial Review of Takara MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker (1931059)
Posted by Quantum Surge on January 11th, 2018 @ 8:02pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:A hypothetical Masterpiece Sky/Jetfire brings up an interesting question. Just how far is Takara willing to go with cartoon scale accuracy when it comes to the bigger characters? Will they even dare to do any of the combiner teams/gestalts? How much would such figures cost!?

Now I don't know for sure but I'm pretty certain that Takara themselves said that they're weren't going any bigger than Star Saber

I remember something along those lines and it was further reinforced when they confirmed that there were no MP Combiners planned or even on the roadmap.

I think there's also be a good reason why we wouldn't see MP Combiners: time.

Will fans be patient enough to wait for the Constructicons or other Combiner teams (released individually and not in a giftset) when you add high prices or distribution for each member? What if we get 5-7 years of Combiners only but nobody else? Not to mention that Takara will want to work on other characters to have their line ups more diverse (not counting Movie and Beast Wars MPs).

What I think works about the Combiner Wars line is that since they have a more approachable price tag for fans, they can have more characters being available frequently within a year (even if it means retooling). I know that it may not be an apples for apples comparison, but the mass produced figures work when you're dealing with characters that may not sell at higher price tags. Think of the Marvel Legends vs Marvel Hot Toys as a good example; while big name characters like Spider-Man, Captain America, and Wolverine will likely sell, some lesser known ones like Agent Coulson and Mockingbird would warm pegs, but the advantage to these compared to their Hot Toys counterparts would be both the prices and the build a figure piece (plus completion would be easier for everyone that wants to have the Avengers at around $120 instead of buying them for $630.

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