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Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure

Transformers News: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure

Monday, November 11th, 2019 7:19PM CST

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We recently posted news about upcoming figures, one of them being a voyager Quintesson. A fan who claims to already have this figure chimed in to give a better description of the toy, due to all the wild speculation that was going on in the fanbase. Below is what they wrote in terms of description. The source has previously asked not to be named. Below is what they wrote in terms of description.

I don't know if the design and aesthetic is fit to the Earthrise line.
I don't know , look more like Cyberverse to me.
Articulation only have 4 tentacle move as balljoint at base.
the gimmick is push on top and the head will rotate.
I like it but to you all I don't know , maybe you expect more. But to have such quintesson figure is cool to be honest
it has that pushing down then the head rotate between each face gimmick.
the color is black and each face has that kind of desaturated color , very egyptian like.


Now it could be that this is another Quintesson figure for a different line, we really don't know. All we know is we have further info on an upcoming Quintesson figure, which sounds to be rather simplistic in design.

UPDATE: An anonymous source has stated that they do have an attack/cannon mode that requires some sort of reconfiguration. So there is a transformation aspect to it, but it's possible that the initial source either didn't know of that possibility or didn't think it was worth mentioning (or would count as transforming). We'll see.

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Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044371)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 11th, 2019 @ 7:21pm CST
I'm intrigued by the Quintesson listings.

I'm hoping they end up being a 5 face changing Quintesson with a stand and some effects parts, and the Quintessa is a toy of TLK Quintessa. That would be an awesome addition to generations and a nice surprise.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044372)
Posted by william-james88 on November 11th, 2019 @ 7:21pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

Which one is this info for, the Voyager Quintesson or the Deluxe Quintessa? Whichever one it is, I'm no longer interested in.


Its just a description of a toy, we dont know more, could be another figure altogether.

Also, what did you expect though? Why wouldnt a Quintesson figure simply be what we saw in the film?
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044378)
Posted by ScottyP on November 11th, 2019 @ 7:32pm CST
Between Quintessons, a planet map, Hasbro's comments at one of the toy shows last month that Earthrise takes place in space and this being the "story" after Siege which was allegedly when they left Cybertron (I use "story" very very loosely here since there's 0 fiction for this, but that was the TCG angle at least) I'm getting big time "Exiles" vibes. That was a mess of a novel and was Aligned continuity, but it did give us cool stuff like Thundertron's version of Star Seekers.

Detritus is even in the TCG, which isn't necessarily a belwether for a toy but that's even more fuel to that fire. Repaint Storm Cloud and Whisper as Star Saber parts, yeah, this looks like another attempt at Exiles.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044380)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on November 11th, 2019 @ 7:37pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

Which one is this info for, the Voyager Quintesson or the Deluxe Quintessa? Whichever one it is, I'm no longer interested in.


Its just a description of a toy, we dont know more, could be another figure altogether.

Also, what did you expect though? Why wouldnt a Quintesson figure simply be what we saw in the film?

I dunno, I expected to be surprised and have the figure have something that makes me actually want it? I expect my Transformers figures to actually, y'know, transform, for starters. I was hoping them doing a Voyager class Quintesson in Generations meant they were going to make all the regular Quintesson stuff be it's robot mode, and then have it turn into...something, at least, like how they made new modes for each of the Weaponizers and Ironworks. A ship, a Sharkticon, a weird Alpha-Q-like monster thing, something. Having a non-transforming egg with faces in the main line just feels to me like a waste of a spot that could have gone to an actual Transformer.

As it stands though, I just have to either hope this is a gimmicky Cyberverse figure that got mislabeled as being in Earthrise, or take this as more proof that Earthrise just won't be as good to me as Siege is/was.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044383)
Posted by Un_Chakal on November 11th, 2019 @ 8:56pm CST
It's obviously going to be a cyberverse toy. Just like the scraplet gimmick where teeth spin inside.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044385)
Posted by Flashwave on November 11th, 2019 @ 9:35pm CST
Well, I wont pit Alpha Q away until we get pictures, but even if this IS a Cyberverse figure and not Earthrise, if its done well like Gnaw It could still work.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044386)
Posted by Emerje on November 11th, 2019 @ 10:09pm CST
Skritz wrote:If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into?

I mean, they aren't Transformers to begin with so I'd be perfectly fine with a Voyager box of Quints that are just action figures with no transforming. I'd much rather have that than trying to shoehorn a transformation into a character that was never intended to transform.

Emerje
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044387)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 11th, 2019 @ 10:31pm CST
Hm... I'm not sold on a non-transforming figure... If that's how the Quintessons are being handled, I'll gladly pass
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044388)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 11th, 2019 @ 10:32pm CST
If the Quints do turn out to be Cyberverse toys and not Earthrise, then that's an interesting move since the Cyberverse Sharkticons are, based on all that has been shown of them, not affiliated with the Quintessons whatsoever, instead being a righteously radical bunch of space surfer dudes. 8-}
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044389)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 11th, 2019 @ 11:02pm CST
On a different note, it looks like Titan class Scorponok will have the Marvel/Rebirth-styled head instead of the toy/Headmasters-styled head.

https://www.facebook.com/VectorSigma.LatAm/posts/1457503311055858

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Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044391)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 11th, 2019 @ 11:10pm CST
Makes sense with proportions. I wonder what they'll name the intermediate form tho...
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044392)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 11th, 2019 @ 11:12pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Makes sense with proportions. I wonder what they'll name the intermediate form tho...
Probably just "Mega Zarak" (or some spelling variation thereof).
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044393)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 11th, 2019 @ 11:12pm CST
I can't wait to see the finished Titan. Though, I hope the antenna are going to be orange in the end... That pale gold doesn't work in my opinion
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044394)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on November 11th, 2019 @ 11:14pm CST
Funny thing, I finally got around to unboxing all of my Impossible Toys Allicons last week. So if this voyager is just a big Judge type, that'll scale nicely to represent the larger one from Space Pirates and display well with my custom General Ghyrik, ordering his commandos to ambush Soundwave's forces.

And if it sells SO well that we get official versions of the Executioner, Bailiff, Prosecutor/Leader, and Scientist that I.T. did, the variants of the latter two from Money is Everything and Dweller in the Depths, the Security Quints killed by the Transorganics and the 3-faced ancient that created them in said latter ep, and the humanoid Quintessons in Forever is a Long Time Coming, and then wash it all down with official Allicons, plentiful enough for army building...

...then I guess I'll FINALLY have to admit that 3rd party products are totally unnecessary, and all I had to do was be patient for the real deal to come through.

But that's not gonna' happen.

Because as several previous comments have observed, the Quintessons are just plain non-toyetic. No matter how important they are to the mythos, or genuinely interesting in design they are, they can't really fit within the TF toyline, because they don't transform.

Instead, they're the perfect example of symbiosis between the official Transformer and 3rd party markets. If it weren't for being able to display all those Impossible Toys Quints (IDR which companies made the other, smaller Judges and Allicons), I never would've bought as many TR Sharkticons as I did, and that has to be true for a LOT of other fans. The reception of that toy probably led in turn led to it's Cyberverse enlargening, and now this Voyager and Deluxe, if true. And that should hopefully lead to 3P versions of the unproduced Quint types listed above, continuing the circle of life toward official Allicons!

Seriously, why didn't we get Allicons during Beast Hunters? Amid all those deluxe variations of generic dragons, they could've done more homages than just a few familiar names.

Point is, while it'll be nice to have a full-grown Quintessa, and it's great that Has/Tak really are trying hard to please their old lifelong fans, this is just one of those niche areas where neither official company can get the proper toys done. 3rd parties stuff exists for a reason, for the good of the greater toy ecosystem, making triumphs and errors that help our current crop of official TFs be as awesome as they are.

And yes, I'll buy these two figures, however they turn out!
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044395)
Posted by Tranzilla on November 11th, 2019 @ 11:24pm CST
Skritz wrote:If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true. :-?


I'm thinking these could be something in the realm of a simplified Mighty Mugs-esque figure. Sounds like the concept is the same.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044398)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 12th, 2019 @ 3:33am CST
Un_Chakal wrote:It's obviously going to be a cyberverse toy. Just like the scraplet gimmick where teeth spin inside.

I agree, pretty sure this sounds like a cyberverse figure; might even be the next build-a-fig
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044400)
Posted by ScottyP on November 12th, 2019 @ 8:21am CST
Sabrblade wrote:On a different note, it looks like Titan class Scorponok will have the Marvel/Rebirth-styled head instead of the toy/Headmasters-styled head.
This pleases me. Never been a big fan of the toy head's look and Marvel Scorponok is what defined the character for me.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044405)
Posted by william-james88 on November 12th, 2019 @ 9:15am CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Hm... I'm not sold on a non-transforming figure... If that's how the Quintessons are being handled, I'll gladly pass


Another anonymous source has stated that they do have an attack/cannon mode that requires some sort of reconfiguration. So there is a transformation aspect to it, but it's possible that the initial source either didn't know of that possibility or didn't think it was worth mentioning (or would count as transforming). We'll see.

Skritz wrote:If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true. :-?


Firstly, see above for How Hasbro might be handling it.
Secondly, Hasbro has released entire lines/classes of non transforming Transformers in the past. And some of those sell for a fortune on e-bay. The Bludgeon skeleton Samurai on everyone's pedestal is a non transforming shell. Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044406)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 12th, 2019 @ 9:32am CST
william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.


Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.

I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044407)
Posted by william-james88 on November 12th, 2019 @ 9:35am CST
We knew Scorponok was coming for a while and we saw the headmaster unit at NYCC 2019. However, Vector Sigma on Facebook gave the footage another look and checked to see what else they could gather from what was presented. They took one of Seibertron's screenshots showing the back of the larger headmaster (so Scorponok's titan head), reoriented it and coloured it to see which style they were going for. As it turns out, the visor we see means titan class Scorponok, who is a double headmaster this time like Fortress Maximus, will be sporting his head from "Rebirth". This is also the look he had in the Marvel UK comics. It's very different to the Japanese Head Masters cartoon which went for the more toy accurate look of separate eyes coming from the smaller head.

This of course makes sense since Hasbro's colours and designs as of late have been more inspired by the US cartoon rather than the toys.

You can see the original image from NYCC below (as well as our entire gallery here), followed by the digital coloured version and comparisons to the two cartoons.

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Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044408)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 12th, 2019 @ 9:39am CST
Oh, it was a digibash type thing :oops: Should have been obvious because of how it was positioned and such... Guess I'm so hyped to see more images of the headmaster unit that I just hoped it was real :lol:
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044409)
Posted by LinaNui on November 12th, 2019 @ 9:44am CST
This is such good news! For me the visor looks much better than the Japanese version with eyes. I really can not wait to see more of him. Does anyone know when the next toy convention is that may have reveals about earthrise of studio series?
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044411)
Posted by william-james88 on November 12th, 2019 @ 9:54am CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.


Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.

I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.


I get that, and I agree that I want my transformers figures to transform. But what about characters that never transformed? Like the Fallen in ROTF? I never understood why having a crap lazy shoehorned alt mode made things better. The entire defense people are saying over in the Studio Series thread for Shockwave's lump of sharp metal alt mode is that he doesn't transform in the movie anyway so the alt mode doesnt matter, what matters is his awesome looking bot mode. And we are seeing the reverse here, like no matter how great it is to finally get a quintessons figure for our collections, I am seeing "if it doesnt transform into anything, then it can go fuck off" type comments by saying they wont support it. I especially don't get it for quintessons, characters that (in some fiction) created the idea of Transformers. Meanwhile, since 2011, fans have been spending lots of money on non transforming 3rd party quints.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044413)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 12th, 2019 @ 10:11am CST
william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.


Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.

I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.


I get that, and I agree that I want my transformers figures to transform. But what about characters that never transformed? Like the Fallen in ROTF? I never understood why having a crap lazy shoehorned alt mode made things better. The entire defense people are saying over in the Studio Series thread for Shockwave's lump of sharp metal alt mode is that he doesn't transform in the movie anyway so the alt mode doesnt matter, what matters is his awesome looking bot mode. And we are seeing the reverse here, like no matter how great it is to finally get a quintessons figure for our collections, if it doesnt transform into anything, then it can go **** off. I especially don't get it for quintessons, characters that (in some fiction) created the idea of Transformers. Meanwhile, since 2011, fans have been spending lots of money on non transforming 3rd party quints.

Personally, I've never really cared for the idea of Quintessons creating the Transformers. And while they were cool in the movie, they didn't really stick out to me as "needs a toy". I guess part of what it boils down to for me is that I just don't really care for the Quintessons beyond temporary bad guys with awesome minions. But, if seeing them means new versions of the Sharkticons and Allicons, I am all for it
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044414)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 12th, 2019 @ 10:17am CST
william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.


Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.

I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.


I get that, and I agree that I want my transformers figures to transform. But what about characters that never transformed? Like the Fallen in ROTF? I never understood why having a crap lazy shoehorned alt mode made things better. The entire defense people are saying over in the Studio Series thread for Shockwave's lump of sharp metal alt mode is that he doesn't transform in the movie anyway so the alt mode doesnt matter, what matters is his awesome looking bot mode. And we are seeing the reverse here, like no matter how great it is to finally get a quintessons figure for our collections, if it doesnt transform into anything, then it can go **** off. I especially don't get it for quintessons, characters that (in some fiction) created the idea of Transformers. Meanwhile, since 2011, fans have been spending lots of money on non transforming 3rd party quints.


I think we are looking at 2 different things though. For the movies, the Fallen and Shockwave were transformers which means they had some type of transformation to an alt mode, it just wasn't shown on screen. So it existed, but we just didn't know anything about it. By that measure, forcing some type of alt mode would be necessary to fit in with the toy line. A crappy alt mode can be forgiven there because the movie didn't bother including one.

With the quintessons, they are not transformers, so not having an alt mode makes sense, and would be cartoon accurate, which is what the WFC trilogy is going for. Again, I have no problem with this, is just isn't for me. So if they do include some non-transforming characters in the line, I'll be skipping them, and my wallet says thanks for the little break.

Now, if it does come out that they do have some type of transformation and look like fun toys, then maybe I get interested enough to make a decision once I see them in hand.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044415)
Posted by william-james88 on November 12th, 2019 @ 10:33am CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I think we are looking at 2 different things though. For the movies, the Fallen and Shockwave were transformers which means they had some type of transformation to an alt mode, it just wasn't shown on screen. So it existed, but we just didn't know anything about it. By that measure, forcing some type of alt mode would be necessary to fit in with the toy line. A crappy alt mode can be forgiven there because the movie didn't bother including one.

With the quintessons, they are not transformers, so not having an alt mode makes sense, and would be cartoon accurate, which is what the WFC trilogy is going for. Again, I have no problem with this, is just isn't for me. So if they do include some non-transforming characters in the line, I'll be skipping them, and my wallet says thanks for the little break.

Now, if it does come out that they do have some type of transformation and look like fun toys, then maybe I get interested enough to make a decision once I see them in hand.


Kevin, I agree with absolutely everything you said. And I am in the same boat in terms of purchasing (my wallet needs a break too and I think I will finally do the whole "only 1 of each character rule"). I am myself not a huge fan of the quints, nor the idea that they created the Transformers.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044416)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 12th, 2019 @ 10:36am CST
william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.


Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.

I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.


I get that, and I agree that I want my transformers figures to transform. But what about characters that never transformed? Like the Fallen in ROTF? I never understood why having a crap lazy shoehorned alt mode made things better. The entire defense people are saying over in the Studio Series thread for Shockwave's lump of sharp metal alt mode is that he doesn't transform in the movie anyway so the alt mode doesnt matter, what matters is his awesome looking bot mode. And we are seeing the reverse here, like no matter how great it is to finally get a quintessons figure for our collections, I am seeing "if it doesnt transform into anything, then it can go **** off" type comments by saying they wont support it. I especially don't get it for quintessons, characters that (in some fiction) created the idea of Transformers. Meanwhile, since 2011, fans have been spending lots of money on non transforming 3rd party quints.



Baynus Shockwave did transform in his first appearance tho -in the video game so it's not quite the same as the bionicle reject of the Fallen with his alt mode coughed up.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044417)
Posted by gothsaurus on November 12th, 2019 @ 10:37am CST
Perfect take on the Scorponok head. Flawless choices IMHO.

For the Quints, I think ensuring there is some fun play gimmick (which could even be in accessories or ability to deconstruct or swap parts) is fine. I really don't WANT transforming Quints. They could be solid plastic for all I care — as build a figure or bonus figures with smaller minibot characters. A clicking, spinning option does appeal to me, though. Hope that's true.

Heck, they could be bonus figure in conjunction with a transforming playset like Ironworks. I'm sure Hasbro has a good plan.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044418)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 12th, 2019 @ 10:56am CST
I liked that head design better anyway
But I wonder if they would do the Japanese style
Later in a stand a lone figure for selects
That way you can just swap heads if you so choose
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044419)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:01am CST
IF Hasbro decided to release a Quintessons figure, especially in a Generations line, I would expect rotating faces at a minimum. But it seems highly coincidental to me that immediately after a "leak," suddenly multiple people come forward to say, wouldn't you know it, I've actually already seen that toy, I just didn't think to mention it until after someone else "confirmed" it.

I do seriously want an Allicon though. There are so many beast-formers, so it would be unusual to introduce those guys in a line that, to date, has been all about human vehicles.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044421)
Posted by gothsaurus on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:07am CST
I've wondered why they didn't do extra heads for years! Making stand-alone unique headmasters for deluxe AND titan size bots would be a real game changer. So much play value there. Would encourage people to buy extra figures to troop build, too. (We only got a tiny bit taste of this with Takara's Sharkticon figure that came with Sweep head.)

Utilizing unique features like faceplates, beard, visors would go a long way to differentiate new characters (and none of those have been used on Titans).

Could also use smaller factions like Constructions, Junkions, Insecticons, Dinobots as a theme — for a "take-over" of the city. Imagine a Marvel-comic style Grimlock (or like the Sunbow meteor episode) that revolted against the leadership and took over Fort Max. (Heck, that sounds like a great season of shows to me. Various factions are trying to take over the cities, and turmoil ensues when any of them succeed and walk off with the city to do their own bidding.)

But I digress. I also kept waiting for store exclusive titan master head sets with nicely themed color sets — could be icy white and blue, all black (with charcoal gray detail) nemesis/stealth set, power-up magma red sets, junkion color sets...

So many missed opportunities.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044422)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:10am CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:I do seriously want an Allicon though. There are so many beast-formers, so it would be unusual to introduce those guys in a line that, to date, has been all about human vehicles.


This 100%!
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044423)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:12am CST
Ultra Markus wrote:I liked that head design better anyway
But I wonder if they would do the Japanese style
Later in a stand a lone figure for selects
That way you can just swap heads if you so choose

That's actually a really good idea. It'd be the perfect way to get a bit more money out of a mold that otherwise might not get used, plus it'd be giving collectors more options. How much would it cost though? If it's the same size figure as Cerebros, I think it'd be closer to voyager price, and if they include electronics they might price it at $40
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044427)
Posted by william-james88 on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:40am CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:IF Hasbro decided to release a Quintessons figure, especially in a Generations line, I would expect rotating faces at a minimum. But it seems highly coincidental to me that immediately after a "leak," suddenly multiple people come forward to say, wouldn't you know it, I've actually already seen that toy, I just didn't think to mention it until after someone else "confirmed" it.


I see it as the inverse of that. People cannot say anything about what they have seen but now that hasbro themselves have leaked it by mistake, they can share what they know. What I find interesting is the various interpretations.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044430)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 12th, 2019 @ 12:40pm CST
I just had a thought. Is Scorponok going to be similar to the Horrorcons? Because on the G1 toy Scorponok's helmet formed the scorpion mode head, and since the new titan class figure doesn't have a helmet, will the figure have the middle stage headmaster serve as both robot, and scorpion mode heads?
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044431)
Posted by ScottyP on November 12th, 2019 @ 12:51pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:IF Hasbro decided to release a Quintessons figure, especially in a Generations line, I would expect rotating faces at a minimum. But it seems highly coincidental to me that immediately after a "leak," suddenly multiple people come forward to say, wouldn't you know it, I've actually already seen that toy, I just didn't think to mention it until after someone else "confirmed" it.


I see it as the inverse of that. People cannot say anything about what they have seen but now that hasbro themselves have leaked it by mistake, they can share what they know. What I find interesting is the various interpretations.
Bingo.

Anyway it's a bold move to do these guys but I welcome it if it's getting done correctly. This means not just one stand-alone figure, folks around for Energon can tell you how this guy warmed shelves:
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Transformers Energon Alpha Quintesson (Alpha Q) Gallery

Gotta have not just the Imperial Magistrix (or magistrate, whichever was intended) but the judge, bailiffs, executioner, guards, Alicons, Sharkticons and heck, throw in some variant paint jobs and call em Kledji, Sevax or Jolup (or Ryknia for James Roberts/Eugenesis fanboys like me) while they're at it. Do the scientists or Mara-Al-Utha. Basically, go for broke!
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044436)
Posted by Microbot on November 12th, 2019 @ 1:23pm CST
I still think he Quintsenssor is a bad figure to do btw...It is really like this description I'll pass for sure
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044437)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 12th, 2019 @ 1:23pm CST
I'd rather they didn't to be fair, I'll be steering clear of the quints themselves as they hold no interest to me whatsoever, and I'd say are taking a place that could be used for something better.

Regardless I'd say that we'd get repaints from Selects or maybe Amazon exclusives.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044440)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 12th, 2019 @ 1:34pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I'd rather they didn't to be fair, I'll be steering clear of the quints themselves as they hold no interest to me whatsoever, and I'd say are taking a place that could be used for something better.


I don't know if that argument makes as much sense anymore. Generations Selects is really a game changer. So is the rise of online exclusives from Amazon over the past few years. Even Hasbro Pulse is getting into that by directly selling Takara's exclusive retools and repaints to North America. We've got a LOT of outlets as collectors for desired Transformers figures that don't make it to brick and mortar store shelves. We can't really say that whatever figure or character gets picked for the mass retail branch of a line forces out some other desired character altogether. They could just be moved to online distribution. Adult collectors should have no issue getting what they want, whether it be in store or online, and Hasbro has been great about giving us MORE of what we want than ever before the past few years.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044445)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 12th, 2019 @ 2:18pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I'd rather they didn't to be fair, I'll be steering clear of the quints themselves as they hold no interest to me whatsoever, and I'd say are taking a place that could be used for something better.


I don't know if that argument makes as much sense anymore. Generations Selects is really a game changer. So is the rise of online exclusives from Amazon over the past few years. Even Hasbro Pulse is getting into that by directly selling Takara's exclusive retools and repaints to North America. We've got a LOT of outlets as collectors for desired Transformers figures that don't make it to brick and mortar store shelves. We can't really say that whatever figure or character gets picked for the mass retail branch of a line forces out some other desired character altogether. They could just be moved to online distribution. Adult collectors should have no issue getting what they want, whether it be in store or online, and Hasbro has been great about giving us MORE of what we want than ever before the past few years.


I can see what you're saying, though I'd much prefer the quints to be the exclusives as kids aren't going to care about them (unless timed with an appearance in the Cyberverse cartoon). They do seem more of a collector focused item.

On saying that I am prepared to eat my words when and if pictures surface. As always, that will be the ultimate decider. Things that I've been lukewarm on have become must buys for me when I see what they actually look like. If something looks fun to play with, it'll be fun to own.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044464)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on November 12th, 2019 @ 5:24pm CST
I'm loving the character choices for this one. I've been looking to be more satisfied with what I have in terms of characters, so all of these sound great!

I already have a 3P Quintesson, but I'd definitely welcome an official one. Or three.

I can't imagine what Quintessa would be. A playset with Sharkticons and Alicons or something?
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044466)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 12th, 2019 @ 5:47pm CST
ScottyP wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:IF Hasbro decided to release a Quintessons figure, especially in a Generations line, I would expect rotating faces at a minimum. But it seems highly coincidental to me that immediately after a "leak," suddenly multiple people come forward to say, wouldn't you know it, I've actually already seen that toy, I just didn't think to mention it until after someone else "confirmed" it.


I see it as the inverse of that. People cannot say anything about what they have seen but now that hasbro themselves have leaked it by mistake, they can share what they know. What I find interesting is the various interpretations.
Bingo.

Anyway it's a bold move to do these guys but I welcome it if it's getting done correctly. This means not just one stand-alone figure, folks around for Energon can tell you how this guy warmed shelves


Yup, shelf warmed real bad when it wasn't released in the UK, was hard to get and still kind of pricey on the after market today.

*One mans trash is another mans treasure :)will be glad to get quints in the new line or cyberverse, the third party ones were a bit fragile and went up in price quite steeply for something that seemed cheap to produce more of.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044467)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 12th, 2019 @ 5:50pm CST
blackeyedprime wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:IF Hasbro decided to release a Quintessons figure, especially in a Generations line, I would expect rotating faces at a minimum. But it seems highly coincidental to me that immediately after a "leak," suddenly multiple people come forward to say, wouldn't you know it, I've actually already seen that toy, I just didn't think to mention it until after someone else "confirmed" it.


I see it as the inverse of that. People cannot say anything about what they have seen but now that hasbro themselves have leaked it by mistake, they can share what they know. What I find interesting is the various interpretations.
Bingo.

Anyway it's a bold move to do these guys but I welcome it if it's getting done correctly. This means not just one stand-alone figure, folks around for Energon can tell you how this guy warmed shelves


Yup, shelf warmed real bad when it wasn't released in the UK, was hard to get and still kind of pricey on the after market today.
In my neck of the woods, I never saw Alpha Quintesson at any normal retail stores, only ever seeing it one time at Once Upon A Toy in Downtown Disney (now known as Disney Springs).
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044468)
Posted by Whifflefire on November 12th, 2019 @ 6:08pm CST
I'd figure that if they were doing Quintessons, they'd be Battle Masters, since they wouldn't need transformations, or they could count a face-changing gimmick as a transformation. They would scale better in this class too, and be easier to army build.

I wonder if a 'deluxe' Quintesson is a mini-figure with a transforming vehicle they ride, that would be something I could get into.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044472)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 12th, 2019 @ 6:34pm CST
Whifflefire wrote:I wonder if a 'deluxe' Quintesson is a mini-figure with a transforming vehicle they ride, that would be something I could get into.

I would not mind this. I am OK with a Quintesson as long as something transforming comes with it, like Action Masters.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044484)
Posted by Mindmaster on November 12th, 2019 @ 9:56pm CST
Can’t wait to see the entirety of Scorponok. He’s gunna be one of those holes in the collection that once it’s filled it’ll be one of the most satisfying feelings in the world to me.

........oddly worded :oops:

I got a “coming in the warehouse this week” notification from BBTS about my preorder for Rung and Singe, looking forward to these guys and the new tapes!
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044509)
Posted by william-james88 on November 13th, 2019 @ 11:34am CST
Mindmaster wrote: “coming in the warehouse this week”


That's oddly worded too.
Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044510)
Posted by william-james88 on November 13th, 2019 @ 11:43am CST
The Facebook page In Demand Toys has some new images of the upcoming Earthrise figures. These are rather important since they are the first images we have of the finished figures. The ones we saw before were sometimes painted samples and 3D renderings. These are for the smaller figures; the Micromaster packs and Soundbarrier the ramp. We see all the wave 1 deluxe toys in packaging and out of the packaging as well as the back of their boxes.

Fellow Seibertronian Jelzerabbit sent us word of these pics and gave their analysis of the molds (re)used too:

In Demand Toys has the same images, plus Soundbarrier, the Hot Rod Patrol Trip-Up and Daddy-O aka Big Daddy, and finally shots of the Military Patrol Bombshock and Growl. The latter Patrol is quite interesting as they show how far the part sharing has come, as they use Topshot and Flak parts:

- Growl uses Flak's chest and 5mm peg, and Topshot's upper legs
- Bombshock uses Flak's legs, and Topshot's cannon

In other words, most of their grey parts are recycled. The magic of gang-molding


Let us know what you think and if you preordered them yet, they are available for ordering at practically every collectible online store right now.

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Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044511)
Posted by no-one on November 13th, 2019 @ 11:43am CST
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote: “coming in the warehouse this week”
That's oddly worded too.
Guess it depends on the warehouse.

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Re: Possible Description of Upcoming Non Transforming Quintesson Figure (2044512)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 13th, 2019 @ 12:28pm CST
Cliffjumper still looks weird without a bot-mode Autobot logo. I don't know why they didn't just make the trade-off of an upside-down logo in his alt-mode.

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