Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline
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We seem to have some news concerning the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends line, after the unification of the brand with same releases between the Japanese company and Hasbro - as detailed here - via a summary on the Snakas blog of hobby and action figure magazine Hyper Hobby, and the section concerning Transformers. Below is a machine translation of the post, but the highlight appears to be something regarding Takara Tomy Mall and Legends, leading to believe that we may still indeed see Japanese exclusive decos and minor retools - but only as exclusives.
Take a read for yourselves below, or head here for the original Japanese post, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub discussion boards!
Take a read for yourselves below, or head here for the original Japanese post, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub discussion boards!
TF related to Hyper Hobby released today is 2 pages in color.
◆ Power of the Prime Japanese version Introduction of products from June to July.
Basically it looks like a new photo. The introductory text itself is not particularly novelty content, but regarding the PP series, it seems to be a policy to release all kinds with the worldwide common specification.
In relation to that, with regard to the future of the TF Legends of the current series, there is a description that "Takara Tomy Mall will be continued around the center".
By the way, with regard to the coalescing function of the dreaddwind and black wing, it was not mentioned here as well.
◆ Other, Introduction of 4 types of the first turbo change series, MP-34S Shadow Panther. Basically posted in advertisement materials.
There is nothing to do with Transformers, but articles about Shincarion 's toys are 3 pages in color, of which 1 page is an interview article on development staff of TakaraTomy. There is a description that development of Shinkallion toy went while consulting with the TF team.
Credit(s): Snakas
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Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936274)
Posted by kurthy on February 6th, 2018 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by kurthy on February 6th, 2018 @ 12:09pm CST
Can't wait to pay an arm and a leg, and another leg for TT Mall exclusives.
There should be a couple wallet Emojis.
There should be a couple wallet Emojis.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936287)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 6th, 2018 @ 2:14pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 6th, 2018 @ 2:14pm CST
The figures we got for Headmasters were more than slight retools. If the quality is going to take a step back but the price remains the same or higher, I don't see myself buying Takara products again. I am still holding out hope for a new Super Ginrai.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936289)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936300)
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CST
Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?
Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936302)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:09pm CST
I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.
Mind you, I don't think they care. I get the impression that TT have given up trying to push TFs as a main toyline for Japanese kids. Selling rebadged Hasbro stock for the main shops, while selling their previous style recoloured Legends figures now as "TT Mall exclusives" for collectors seems as cost effective as they can be.
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:09pm CST
william-james88 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?
Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.
I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.
Mind you, I don't think they care. I get the impression that TT have given up trying to push TFs as a main toyline for Japanese kids. Selling rebadged Hasbro stock for the main shops, while selling their previous style recoloured Legends figures now as "TT Mall exclusives" for collectors seems as cost effective as they can be.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936304)
Posted by steals_your_goats on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:15pm CST
What do you mean by that? Apart from differences in paint and the occasional remolded part the figures were the same quality as the hasbro ones. It's not like Takara used different plastics.
Posted by steals_your_goats on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:15pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:The figures we got for Headmasters were more than slight retools. If the quality is going to take a step back but the price remains the same or higher, I don't see myself buying Takara products again. I am still holding out hope for a new Super Ginrai.
What do you mean by that? Apart from differences in paint and the occasional remolded part the figures were the same quality as the hasbro ones. It's not like Takara used different plastics.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936305)
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CST
Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).
Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US
amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:william-james88 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?
Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.
I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.
Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).
Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US
amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936308)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:44pm CST
Actually, you've just solved a problem for me! I didn't actually know a place that had better shipping rates for 3P and Hasbro toys to Japan! Is that the best/cheapest place to go for Japan based customers?
If so, then just inside "Amiami" instead of bbts. However, i hope amiami accepts credit cards. I refuse to use a PayPal account.
EDIT: - Scratch that. It seems that, if Snarl is anything to go by, it's cheaper to get them domestically from Amazon Japan. However, your message prompted me to go to Amazon Japan, where I realised I didn't pre-order Snarl or Grimlock. Were they in the same wave as the other Dinobots? If not, then they are out now at Amazon Japan for preorder.
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 3:44pm CST
william-james88 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:william-james88 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?
Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.
I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.
Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).
Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US
amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771
Actually, you've just solved a problem for me! I didn't actually know a place that had better shipping rates for 3P and Hasbro toys to Japan! Is that the best/cheapest place to go for Japan based customers?
If so, then just inside "Amiami" instead of bbts. However, i hope amiami accepts credit cards. I refuse to use a PayPal account.
EDIT: - Scratch that. It seems that, if Snarl is anything to go by, it's cheaper to get them domestically from Amazon Japan. However, your message prompted me to go to Amazon Japan, where I realised I didn't pre-order Snarl or Grimlock. Were they in the same wave as the other Dinobots? If not, then they are out now at Amazon Japan for preorder.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936309)
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:02pm CST
There are a few and you have to compare. Amiami is the one I used a lot and i used Nippon Yassan as well. There is also anime export (but I think, as the title suggests, they are more for exports), HLJ and Big in Japan. I dont know which use credit cards since I always use paypal.
Amazon Japan has the best deals for MP toys it seems but they can also be good for some mainline toys as well. They were the cheapest place for movie toys last year.
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:02pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Actually, you've just solved a problem for me! I didn't actually know a place that had better shipping rates for 3P and Hasbro toys to Japan! Is that the best/cheapest place to go for Japan based customers?
If so, then just inside "Amiami" instead of bbts. However, i hope amiami accepts credit cards. I refuse to use a PayPal account.
There are a few and you have to compare. Amiami is the one I used a lot and i used Nippon Yassan as well. There is also anime export (but I think, as the title suggests, they are more for exports), HLJ and Big in Japan. I dont know which use credit cards since I always use paypal.
Amazon Japan has the best deals for MP toys it seems but they can also be good for some mainline toys as well. They were the cheapest place for movie toys last year.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936311)
Posted by Emerje on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:07pm CST
Posted by Emerje on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:07pm CST
The big question is if this is true then are we talking short term during the PotP run or long term for the foreseeable future?
AmiAmi usually has the best Japanese prices online with large discounts. Why wouldn't you just assign your credit card to PayPal if you're willing to pay by card? Regardless, they do accept cards.
Emerje
primalxconvoy wrote:Actually, you've just solved a problem for me! I didn't actually know a place that had better shipping rates for 3P and Hasbro toys to Japan! Is that the best/cheapest place to go for Japan based customers?
If so, then just inside "Amiami" instead of bbts. However, i hope amiami accepts credit cards. I refuse to use a PayPal account.
AmiAmi usually has the best Japanese prices online with large discounts. Why wouldn't you just assign your credit card to PayPal if you're willing to pay by card? Regardless, they do accept cards.
Emerje
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936312)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:11pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:11pm CST
Cheers folks. It seems though, that for these toys, Amazon is cheaper. It's free shipping, after all, whereas the others need international shipping and then domestic shipping fees. If the Hasbro versions where different, I usually use BBTS but they're doesn't seem much point. HLJ are great but I think they only sell Japanese stuff, not foreign stuff in Japan?
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936313)
Posted by Agamemnon on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:17pm CST
For the bolded part, are you talking Hasbro or Takara Power of the Primes? 'Cause I just looked and it appears only singles of Takara are available (with many sold out), and on the Hasbro side, you can still just preorder Wave 2 sets, no duplicates, of all of the size classes including deluxes, with a few individual ones available (like Rodimus Unicronus). Or was the comment in reference to something else?![Image]()
[Edit] Link to PotP Wave 2: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/68755
Posted by Agamemnon on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:17pm CST
william-james88 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:william-james88 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?
Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.
I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.
Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).
Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US
amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771
For the bolded part, are you talking Hasbro or Takara Power of the Primes? 'Cause I just looked and it appears only singles of Takara are available (with many sold out), and on the Hasbro side, you can still just preorder Wave 2 sets, no duplicates, of all of the size classes including deluxes, with a few individual ones available (like Rodimus Unicronus). Or was the comment in reference to something else?
[Edit] Link to PotP Wave 2: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/68755
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936314)
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:34pm CST
I am talking about Hasbro only. Because since the guy asking a question is in Japan, I wouldnt think he would buy Takara figures from BBTS and have them ship to Japan.
Hence why all of these questions confuses the fuck out of me. They are the same toys. So if you are in the US, buy the Hasbro release from a US retailer. And if you are in Japan, buy the takara release from a Japanese retailer. I have no clue why anything else would be considered.
Also, this is the Legends thread. So, let this be the end of the POTP discussion here. If anyone wants to continue it or respond, then simply quote this and copy paste it in the POTP thread.
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 4:34pm CST
Agamemnon wrote:william-james88 wrote:Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).
Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US
amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771
For the bolded part, are you talking Hasbro or Takara Power of the Primes? 'Cause I just looked and it appears only singles of Takara are available (with many sold out), and on the Hasbro side, you can still just preorder Wave 2 sets, no duplicates, of all of the size classes including deluxes, with a few individual ones available (like Rodimus Unicronus). Or was the comment in reference to something else?
[Edit] Link to PotP Wave 2: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/68755
I am talking about Hasbro only. Because since the guy asking a question is in Japan, I wouldnt think he would buy Takara figures from BBTS and have them ship to Japan.
Hence why all of these questions confuses the fuck out of me. They are the same toys. So if you are in the US, buy the Hasbro release from a US retailer. And if you are in Japan, buy the takara release from a Japanese retailer. I have no clue why anything else would be considered.
Also, this is the Legends thread. So, let this be the end of the POTP discussion here. If anyone wants to continue it or respond, then simply quote this and copy paste it in the POTP thread.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936320)
Posted by o.supreme on February 6th, 2018 @ 5:10pm CST
basically the only part that interested me. I'm glad the line is not going away entirely, but it may just focus on the occasional MP, or classic reissue. I'd love to open up the possibility of UW coming back, but I seriously, seriously doubt it.
Posted by o.supreme on February 6th, 2018 @ 5:10pm CST
In relation to that, with regard to the future of the TF Legends of the current series, there is a description that "Takara Tomy Mall will be continued around the center".
basically the only part that interested me. I'm glad the line is not going away entirely, but it may just focus on the occasional MP, or classic reissue. I'd love to open up the possibility of UW coming back, but I seriously, seriously doubt it.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936323)
Posted by Flashwave on February 6th, 2018 @ 5:20pm CST
Posted by Flashwave on February 6th, 2018 @ 5:20pm CST
You can order individually from BBTS if they are in stock, ut they are not listing Blackwing or Moonracer.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936328)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 5:39pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 5:39pm CST
At this point, dear Readers, Primal forgot to read the part of William's post that stated "COPY AND PASTE YOUR REPLIES TO THE OTHER THREAD", and carried on, regardless, in this thread, including a wry attempt at humour about merging the threads, oblivious to the consequences that were yet to come. Let's see what happened next!
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936329)
Posted by steals_your_goats on February 6th, 2018 @ 5:44pm CST
There aren't two threads for power of the primes. This is the legends thread which is a completely different line.
Posted by steals_your_goats on February 6th, 2018 @ 5:44pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Ironically, if all these new toys are identical, maybe there won't be a need for two threads!?
There aren't two threads for power of the primes. This is the legends thread which is a completely different line.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936335)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 6:11pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 6th, 2018 @ 6:11pm CST
Little did our hero know, but William had pressed the Sibertron panic button, only recently fixed after Primal's last "Not-S@k@mo@o-Gate" shenanigans. This button, imbued with the scent of white chocolate Timtams lace with Vegemite, roused the sleeping form of Burn, Primal's nemesis, from the land of criminals and eaters of kangaroos
Still oblivious to, what must have been now blindingly obvious to even the slowest of wits, Primal soldiered on, showing a nice picture of Grimlock, which he was sure would lighten everyone's mood.
It did not.
Still oblivious to, what must have been now blindingly obvious to even the slowest of wits, Primal soldiered on, showing a nice picture of Grimlock, which he was sure would lighten everyone's mood.
It did not.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936365)
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 8:12pm CST
Well I see my words were completely ignored. Was hoping to give Burn a break, but oh well.
Posted by william-james88 on February 6th, 2018 @ 8:12pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Also, this is the Legends thread. So, let this be the end of the POTP discussion here. If anyone wants to continue it or respond, then simply quote this and copy paste it in the POTP thread.
Well I see my words were completely ignored. Was hoping to give Burn a break, but oh well.
Re: Possible Future of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline (1936370)
Posted by Agamemnon on February 6th, 2018 @ 8:16pm CST
Posted by Agamemnon on February 6th, 2018 @ 8:16pm CST
Yeah, I think the confusion comes in with the possibility that mayhaps some of these PotP designs will hopefully still make it into the Legends toy line as exclusives, with better paint and maybe some remolding.
But, I heard somewhere that hope is just undiscovered disappointment....![:-s]( "Worried")
But, I heard somewhere that hope is just undiscovered disappointment....
