Power of the Primes Fan Vote - Finalists Announced

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, 2 out of 3 aint bad. Plus I like all 4, so Yay!

I feel the same way. I hope Victory fans split their vote between Star Saber and Deathsaurus and enough fans of MTME don't want Ultra Magnus to leave the Lost Light, that Optimus Primal wins!

Just because I thought about this after my first post:

We got the Hammer, the Monkey, The Gundam, and the Kaiju squaring off for the matrix. Well, I really like all 4, so I will be very satisfied with the results of the vote!

Now I just gotta pick which one I actually want to win

I am NOT happy with the results, all 4 characters have had some sort of leadership before, I really wanted Hound to be the next Prime

Great... Two of the guys I voted for made it. Now I have to decide between Primal and Star Saber..

These stink. Magnus already has held the matrix...not worthy.
Primal...meh
Star saber????
random unknown evil, I don't think so.
Color me underwhelmed.

Well yay three out of those 4 would have their identities ruined by becoming a Prime and the fourth is an evil character.

Ultra Magnus, Optimus Primal and Star Saber were already interesting for being leaders that were not Primes especially Primal who If I remember right the show made a point that while he wasn't a Prime he was a great leader who was a father to his men and kicked tail-pipe regardless.

Like what would they even call him anyways Optimus Prime?

And I don't think it works anyways because Optimus and Rodimus were originally average underdogs who became something greater but here a leader becomes another uhhhh leader or something?

How dull and generically boring.

I don't care what happens next so I'm not bothering to vote any further and this reminds me of why I usually consider fan votes to be cancerous diseases never leave things to mass fan voting ever...

Well, if art imitates life, I'm putting my money on Deszaras since Trump won. Might as well see the Transformers Universe deal with their own version of alternate facts, border walls, racism, and other hot topics. Unfortunately, that sounds way more entertaining or interesting than the other three choices.

Seibertron wrote:Well, if art imitates life, I'm putting my money on Deszaras since Trump won. Might as well see the Transformers Universe deal with their own version of alternate facts, border walls, racism, and other hot topics. Unfortunately, that sounds way more entertaining or interesting than the other three choices.

Oh Primus, please no! Real life is already horrific because of Trump. Transformers is an escape for me. It's my happy place.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Well, if art imitates life, I'm putting my money on Deszaras since Trump won. Might as well see the Transformers Universe deal with their own version of alternate facts, border walls, racism, and other hot topics. Unfortunately, that sounds way more entertaining or interesting than the other three choices.

Oh Primus, please no! Real life is already horrific because of Trump. Transformers is an escape for me. It's my happy place.

I doubt your life is ruined because Trump is President while he is an awful person and probably will be a bad President it's hardly the end of the world there have been bad Presidents in the past and there will be some in the future because there is no perfect leader unless their name is Jesus Christ.


Just like it wont be the end of Transformers no matter who wins the voting but if enough fans (like 90 % of em) make a big enough fuss online and other places Hasbro might just ignore the results and act like nothing ever happened after the toy comes out.

I feel like we should maybe end the political stuff here before it potentially escalates.

That said, I like these options, but I honestly wanted to vote for who I want a figure of more. I'd like a nice voyager Primal to go with my Rhinox, Rattrap, Blackarachnia and Waspinator. I guess he might get a Prime redesign though, so I'm not really sure where I want my vote to go. If there's not going to be a redesign other than "Well I guess this guy's a Prime now," I'll vote Primal. Otherwise Star Saber. He's got a cool design in MTMTE already, and I'd like to see where they'd go with him.

The unknown evil (Deathasaurs) winning I'm going to call got rigged and would of gone to the next round regardless because Hasbro probably wants to milk the pointless marketing around the character like hasbro probably would and the fact he is called "Wild Card" instead of also being a part of "Chaos" like Primal the other 3 are definitely genuine results though I believe.

That and Decepticons don't usually win fan votes because of the children and the "Facebook casuals" who don't give a slags afterburner about bad guys.

Just saying this to make myself feel better that two people from the same category won.

Well ... I'm done.

Deadput wrote:The unknown evil (Deathasaurs) winning I'm going to call got rigged and would of gone to the next round regardless because Hasbro probably wants to milk the pointless marketing around the character like hasbro probably would and the fact he is called "Wild Card" instead of also being a part of "Chaos" like Primal the other 3 are definitely genuine results though I believe.

That and Decepticons don't usually win fan votes because of the children and the "Facebook casuals" who don't give a slags afterburner about bad guys.

Just saying this to make myself feel better that two people from the same category won.

I honestly wouldn't be super surprised myself, considering he's the only one not named. It's a really weird thing to do in a vote, putting in someone not a lot of people might recognize as a choice.

Nik Hero wrote:

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Pretty much how I feel. I want primal to win, I 'll be happy if magnus, or star saber wins. I do find it funny how we are having a second chance on mysterious evil *cough deathsaurus. Cant help but think that their pushing him on to us.

Autobot Roadburn wrote:

Deadput wrote:The unknown evil (Deathasaurs) winning I'm going to call got rigged and would of gone to the next round regardless because Hasbro probably wants to milk the pointless marketing around the character like hasbro probably would and the fact he is called "Wild Card" instead of also being a part of "Chaos" like Primal the other 3 are definitely genuine results though I believe.

That and Decepticons don't usually win fan votes because of the children and the "Facebook casuals" who don't give a slags afterburner about bad guys.

Just saying this to make myself feel better that two people from the same category won.

I honestly wouldn't be super surprised myself, considering he's the only one not named. It's a really weird thing to do in a vote, putting in someone not a lot of people might recognize as a choice.

They can't call it DeathSaurus, and Dezarus is its own character...... I'm guessing they're waiting and seeing if there is any interest before trademarking a new name. Honestly it's a guess, and I'm not claiming to know much about this kind of thing.

Terrsolpix wrote:
They can't call it DeathSaurus, and Dezarus is its own character...... I'm guessing they're waiting and seeing if there is any interest before trademarking a new name. Honestly it's a guess, and I'm not claiming to know much about this kind of thing.

But the recent Liokaiser combiner wars figure gave him the name Dezarus and yes they are the same character he just has Leozack's colors it was confirmed.

So name trademark is not the reason he is called "Unknown Evil"

Deadput wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:
They can't call it DeathSaurus, and Dezarus is its own character...... I'm guessing they're waiting and seeing if there is any interest before trademarking a new name. Honestly it's a guess, and I'm not claiming to know much about this kind of thing.

But the recent Liokaiser combiner wars figure gave him the name Dezarus and yes they are the same character he just has Leozack's colors it was confirmed.

So name trademark is not the reason he is called "Unknown Evil"

It was more of a tinfoil conspiracy than anything else:HEADHURTS:

looking at the results page again I feel even more sure about my reasoning for Unknown Evil's winning being rigged due to a line the page says.

"Announcing the three group contenders and the wild card contender."

First of all Unknown evil was part of the Chaos group with Primal and therefor should be labeled as chaos too otherwise how does one become selected to be a "wild card" it was not an option for us to vote for so the way this happened are.

1: The voting was rigged and he was always meant to go on to the second round as a wild card.

2: He had the exact same number of votes as Primal because I'm sure normally/fairly he would not move on even if he had one less vote then Primal.

3: Hasbro did a random dice roll or random number generator on who would be the wild card and Mr.Unknownazarus just conveniently happened to be picked.


What are your guy's thoughts on the whole thing because unless it's option number 2 I consider an extra person moving on to be unfair because if that's the case they might as well as as had two extra people from Honor and Order move on too I mean I'm calling it now the final vote is between Mr.Unknownazarus and one of these three.


Chaos indeed...

Boo!! I voted for Arcee, Deathsaurus and Star Saber. Truth be told, I'd have preferred another fembot or a fembot in each category. I like Arcee, but she's not the only fembot in the Transformers universe.

I would assume that if this is going to tie into the IDW-verse at all, Star Saber can't win-he's a douche in IDW. IDW Deathsaurus is actually a Decepticon with a conscience-it might be interesting to see him take it. We recently had an Ultra Magnus figure in Combiner Wars, so I doubt they'd do another one so soon. Plus, he's stuck on Necroworld for the time being.

If they don't tie it into IDW, and it's just a toy in a toyline, I'd say it'll probably go to Star Saber- he's never had a toy in the West.

I smell rigged vote. Unless as already mentioned Deathsaurus got equal votes to Primal, he shouldn't even be there. It is clear that Hasbro want "Unknown Evil" to win as they probably have a toy and plot already worked out.

As for the proper candidates
Ultra Magnus: though he is my favourite TF of all time, I won't be voting for him since I don't want him leaving Lost Light
Optimus Primal: Hasn't really appeared in the comics.
Star Saber: I don't want a Leader who wants to go on an Atheist Holocaust

It's a shame Hound didn't get through, but I'm happy Star Saber and Optimus Primal did, so I'm backing Primal all the way. The fact that Hasbro have added Deathsaurus as a "Wild Card" makes me think they were banking on him getting through the first round and they still want to hammer in the "Oooh mystery evil oooh who could it be oooh even though we've done nothing to hide the fact it's Deathsaurus oooh" angle.
More than anything though, I do hope at least some of the candidates that don't win this vote still get toys in Power of the Primes even if they're not Primes, I'd love a new Voyager Shockwave.

None of my choices got through so I've lost interest in this. Magnus is ok as long as it's not silly minimus thingy from IDW. Never seen the appeal of Star Saber at all.

Guess my quest continues for a decent voyager Thunderwing...

Yeah, disappointed with all of these. As others have said, what's the fun in having the next leader of Cybertron be an existing leader in one way or another.

And where did this 'wild card' come from? Seems to me Hasbro want an excuse to push the 'unknown evil' into the spotlight even if no one else does.

Deszaras needs to win. Kek Unicron wills it.

The was always going to be 4 choices, the choice with the most votes after all the categories' winners, is, by definition the wild card.

Shame that Shockwave didn't make it.

Oh well, on to the next contender.

I suppose Deathzarus (they might change that spelling to Dezarus or similar) is acceptable to me and he'd be great paired with Starsaber.

I'd have preferred Megatron for story reasons - but you can certainly tell a story with Deathhsaurus and Star Saber - also we might get their hangers on and associate characters too - so that would be a really nice change of pace as to some they'd be all new Characters while to those more versed they'd be a nice nod to another G1 flavour.

So yeah BOTH being in the toyline makes a lot of sense.

Who knows we might get a Degeist repaint out of it too. if they go full on Victory/Zone/Battlestars homage I'm up for that.

Though they might not bother with the Deathzarus Leader class if they think the Combiner is enough.

But i'm pretty pleased we dodged the Arcee issues - I'm happy for her to have an increased role - I just didn't want her as a Prime (yet) or as part of this trilogy.

Who knows maybe we can suggest to Hasbro that they could import Takara's Beast Saga or make something similar and tie them to the Transformers Brand too.

Let me put it this way. Setting MPs aside, we've recently gotten a splendid Ultra Magnus toy (the CW Leader), and the current Hasbro team has recently been on a Japanese G1 streak so Star Saber and Deszaras are bound to get proper Hasbro toys at some point anyway (Deszaras is even rumored to be coming in the Titans Return line). So really, as far as non-MP/non-exclusive Hasbro toys are concerned, there's really only one choice I can make from this selection, and it's one from a series that Hasbro has gone out of its way to deliberately ignore even on its 20th anniversary.

Moreover, people want more classic beast characters, right? Predacons, Terrorcons, Seacons, Dinobots (proper Classics-style non-Grimlock G1 Dinobots, that is), etc. So of these choices here, what better way to send Hasbro that message than by forcing them to do the munky?

Considering that:
1. SWORDS
2. I want a toy of him that I can actually afford
I'll be going Star Saber now.

A comics-y note on Star Saber, just for fun:

The current version of Star Saber, the religious zealot who kinda wants to kill everything, is another suit - just like Ultra Magnus - and endorsed by ex-chief Justice Tyrest as the new enforcer of the Tyrest Accord. That was a long while ago, Tyrest is gone for now, and it is possible, I think at least, that we could have a new Star Saber (as in same suit, different piloting dudebot) show up on Cybertron. Or at least, it's something that could be done.

(Or Cybertron just goes to the dogs after Starscream messes up something bad, and BAM it is Made Great Again.)

Primal would be a very out of left field choice, for the comics, but not one that hasn't been seeded since Eukarys, and even Rhinox showing up all that time ago with Galvatron 'The Barbarian'.

Others have already mentioned Deathsaurus' role/place so far.


Hm.

Sabrblade wrote:Let me put it this way. Setting MPs aside, we've recently gotten a splendid Ultra Magnus toy (the CW Leader), and the current Hasbro team has recently been on a Japanese G1 streak so Star Saber and Deszaras are bound to get proper Hasbro toys at some point anyway (Deszaras is even rumored to be coming in the Titans Return line). So really, as far as non-MP/non-exclusive Hasbro toys are concerned, there's really only one choice I can make from this selection, and it's one from a series that Hasbro has gone out of its way to deliberately ignore even on its 20th anniversary.

Moreover, people want more classic beast characters, right? Predacons, Terrorcons, Seacons, Dinobots (proper Classics-style non-Grimlock G1 Dinobots, that is), etc. So of these choices here, what better way to send Hasbro that message than by forcing them to do the munky?

Great points!

Knew primal would make it no surprise there

A new Ultra Magnus would be neat- the CW toy has some pretty significant flaws (notably breakage issues, craptacular hands and no ankle rockers). Star Saber and Deszaras would both be welcome in my book, especially the latter as he hasn't had a good toy in years (aside from the BotCon exclusive retool of Gigatron). Primal I'd kinda like to win if only to see what they came up with.

So yeah, all in all I'd be OK with anyone out of these finalists winning.

Hmm.... IDW could very well put Magnus in this position, but secretly have someone else beneath the armor..... Using the Magnus armor as a Pretender shell almost seems like an inevitable plot-point in IDW at some point, even if not this particular one.

Halfofme07 wrote:Hmm.... IDW could very well put Magnus in this position, but secretly have someone else beneath the armor..... Using the Magnus armor as a Pretender shell almost seems like an inevitable plot-point in IDW at some point, even if not this particular one.

..and it could similarly happen for Star Saber, who shares the same 'quality' in the current fiction!

Extremely surprised to see both the obscure Victory guys get in... hm. This makes things interesting.

Actually not sure whether I want Deathy over Primal anymore

Making a prediction for the final round:

Magnus gets left in the dust.

Deathsaurus gets a lot of votes, but ultimately looses out to Star Saber and Primal.

As to who wins between those two, I have no idea.

Deadput wrote: Like what would they even call him anyways Optimus Prime?

My guess would be Primal Prime.

Dude Gatsby wrote:

Deadput wrote: Like what would they even call him anyways Optimus Prime?

My guess would be Primal Prime.

That is what I was thinking too.

I wonder if Hasbro will actually ever reveal what the actual results were (how many fans voted for eac). Not that I don't like the choices, but still...seems kind of odd, Also why the *wild card*? I thought it was going to be left at 3. If they wanted a 4th, I would have thought Megatron or Shockwave would have got way more votes than Deszaurus...something seems a little fishy is all I'm saying.

This all just feels kinda pointless now...

Hang on, I'm going to try to iterate--doubtless I'll get told off by somebody, and I suck at explaining myself but, all these fan polls just feel like Hasbro and Takara are just finding ways to validate/ hype/ give credence to things they already have done, or ideas already in the pipeline.

TT gave Japan the chance to vote for the next MP; Star Saber wins, but Primal turns up 2 years later regardless, and I can't help think any design and engineering plans for an MP Ginrai were just funneled into legends super Ginrai (moreso the Godbomber part now coming)

Both fan built bots are female. This isn't a problem, but, given the current social climate, were Hasbro not going to introduce more females characters anyway? And honestly, what did we get? Windblade doesn't exactly break any archetypal molds, does she? She's still a product of....well being a product. She doesn't come across as anything new or different, as something crafted by fans- people with passion and desire for seeing growth and change; rather she's just more product from 'business' types with an demographic-aimed agenda to stick to. I don't like Strongarm personally, but had she been the product of the fan built vote...I'd actually have been pleasantly surprised.

The next Titan class? Yeah....we really let our voice be heard there. God knows who they'd have chosen if we didn't steer them toward Trypticon...

Now, we have this. All the finalists are-or have been-leaders already. Nothing 'really' new is happening. Nothing is being created outside of the confines that Hasbro, and all related fiction writers, have to work within. It's all still crafted.

I don't want to be 'that guy' y'know...but...if these 'fan polls' are just to make us feel all special 'cos we contributed, well...can you really be proud of being part of something if that something would have happened without your input regardless? We (the fans) are not really doing a whole lot here, are we?

I'll go home now.

What if the "Unknown Evil" turns out to be something genuinely wild, like Crankcase or Skyhammer?

Rigged.

I only say that because it seems like the most conventional choices won. All leadership guys. Nothing really crazy like Hound or Megatron which would've be tricky on the status quo Hasbro likes to keep in their toy line.

Va'al wrote:

Halfofme07 wrote:Hmm.... IDW could very well put Magnus in this position, but secretly have someone else beneath the armor..... Using the Magnus armor as a Pretender shell almost seems like an inevitable plot-point in IDW at some point, even if not this particular one.

..and it could similarly happen for Star Saber, who shares the same 'quality' in the current fiction!

The comics showed Tyrest was the one that seemed to have an outer armor shell. Star Saber was never shown to be like that

The first amendment protects Unknown Evil's right to free speech. Let's hear what he has to say.

Hmmm I wonder who will win...Magnus, Primal, Star Saber or the dude who showed up in a couple stores database last year. It's a real mystery

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Halfofme07 wrote:Hmm.... IDW could very well put Magnus in this position, but secretly have someone else beneath the armor..... Using the Magnus armor as a Pretender shell almost seems like an inevitable plot-point in IDW at some point, even if not this particular one.

..and it could similarly happen for Star Saber, who shares the same 'quality' in the current fiction!

The comics showed Tyrest was the one that seemed to have an outer armor shell. Star Saber was never shown to be like that

Potentially - but if the previous enforcer worked with armour, why not his successor?