Power of the Primes Wave 2 Case Breakdowns: Prime Master, Voyager, Leader
Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 7:13PM CST
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A Wave 2 case of Prime Masters (listed as Power Masters on their site) will reportedly consist of:
- Skullgrin [with Liege Maximo] x 2
- Metalhawk [with Vector Prime] x 2
- Submarauder [with Alchemist Prime] x 4
- Landmine [with Alpha Trion] x 4
Of note here is the fact that the new figures in Wave 2 (Submarauder and Landmine) are packed four per case, while the repacks from Wave 1 are only packed at two per case. The new toys being twice as common as the older ones is good news for collectors - that means there should be a good chance of seeing them around instead of just more Wave 1 figures!
A case of Voyagers contains:
- Hun-Gurrr x 1
- Elita-1 x 1
Which are both new toys to Wave 2, so no repacks at all here. It may mean that Grimlock and Starscream will be a touch less common than if they'd been repacked in Wave 2, but it also means that Hun-Gurr and Elita-1 should be plentiful once this wave hits.
And finally, a Leader case is comprised of:
- Optimus Prime x 1
- Rodimus Unicronus x 1
Meaning that from what we know, the Leader class has the lowest ratio of new to repacked toys in this wave, at 1:1. Those looking for Rodimus Unicronus may find him surrounded by a considerable number of Optimus Primes hailing from both Waves 1 and 2. However, we also know that Optimus does tend to sell quite well, so these cases will likely have a high turnover regardless and Rodimus Unicronus should still be relatively common on store shelves.
The site also has listings for Legends and Deluxe assortments, but there's no information on what the breakdowns of these cases will look like as of yet. Rest assured we'll share those as soon as information arises, but for now, we'd love to hear what you have to say in the Energon Pub! Do these assortments look good to you, or would you have preferred a different ratio of certain figures? Share your thoughts on what we have so far, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Power of the Primes news as it happens!
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Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 14th, 2017 @ 7:29pm CST
Only opened Dreadwind so far, but I'm very impressed. Tight joints, tidy tampographs, and seeing them now in hand, I realize that yes, you can use the hand/heel thing as a power gauntlet. Every single one of the figures in wave one has a 5mm port on it's forearm, so you can attach the fist and close it around their lower arm.
Sorry this is sideways, but I think it gets the point across anyway.
Posted by Rysquad on November 14th, 2017 @ 7:52pm CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 14th, 2017 @ 7:58pm CST
Posted by Sigma Magnus on November 14th, 2017 @ 8:00pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 14th, 2017 @ 8:26pm CST
Only got slug, swoop, and dreadwind.
Swoop and Dreadwind are both 10+/10.
-lusciously tight joints
-amazing paint apps (few but well used)
-soft detents everywhere
-nice use of plastic colors
-finally got 4 jets for cyclonus
-dreadwind has massive heels thanks to the wing kibble
-swoop is just sublime in general, specifically, you can attach his sword under his chin in beast mode to have a pterodactyl with a bayonet - how f'ing metal is that?
-tm ports in fists should not be overlooked for sheer fun value, or underestimated, I'm not getting grimlock, but I relish the opportunity to have grimlock as a combiner punch out king 'scream with a grimlock tm in his fist
tl:dr, as limbs these guys are must-haves, as figures, they are also must-haves; something tells me 's legends comics are gonna have a field day with headmaster-in-fist/bibs shenanigans, and I can't wait
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on November 14th, 2017 @ 8:55pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 14th, 2017 @ 9:15pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:omega666 wrote:Thanks for showing the limb modes. I thought it was pretty half-assed to post a video review and not show the limb mode.
Don't worry, Chucky will have you covered.
wha...? are you putting your video reviews up just now?
if you are....oh goody
I'll get them on Wednesday. The plan is two reviews of two.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 14th, 2017 @ 9:17pm CST
Posted by The_Cryptid_Person on November 14th, 2017 @ 9:28pm CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 14th, 2017 @ 9:48pm CST
Posted by The_Cryptid_Person on November 14th, 2017 @ 10:09pm CST
Caelus wrote:I haven't opened Swoop yet - I'm strongly considering waiting until I've collected all the Dinobots to open them. Does that sound insane?
Not at all! Sounds like it would help you appreciate them as a team - and as a combiner. Volcanicus needs all the help he can get!
The main problem I see is a very, very long wait for Wave 2.
Posted by Qwan on November 14th, 2017 @ 10:18pm CST
Caelus wrote:I haven't opened Swoop yet - I'm strongly considering waiting until I've collected all the Dinobots to open them. Does that sound insane?
Yes, very
In all seriousness, my personal suggestion would be to open him now. I find that I appreciate my Transformers - even those who're defined by their teams - much more when they each have a bit of time to themselves, so to speak. Opening five toys at once and trying to enjoy them, plus a combined mode, all together might end up robbing each figure of its individual charm, and that would be a sad thing indeed.
But hey, that's only my two cents. You do you, friend! Whatever makes you happy - that's the point of all this, after all.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 14th, 2017 @ 10:25pm CST
Latebrus-K wrote:The main problem I see is a very, very long wait for Wave 2.
Ugh, yes. How long? February? March? I doubt it will be 'early' the way Wave 1 was, so it seems like we're going to have a loooooong gap in here.
Qwan wrote:Opening five toys at once and trying to enjoy them, plus a combined mode, all together might end up robbing each figure of its individual charm, and that would be a sad thing indeed.
Yeah, I was sort of thinking that.
Posted by noctorro on November 15th, 2017 @ 3:45am CST
The lavender colered jet robot.
Makes me want to get every single normal released version of any Combiner Wars Jet mode to create a huge Armada!
Man, Muricanz. We don't have them yet in Holland, land of the RAIN!
But we have good import shops and good prices.
Combiner Wars overwhelmed me and exceeded all my expectations of the Classics followup line.
Titans Return is even more pure love.
And now... they combine it with tiny mech suits for the little Masters... Updated good Generations Dinobots, all of them... and they combine... and they have a baby Raptor with them. And they have even more G1 characters... Orion Pax who transforms into Optimus Prime, A real Rodimus Prime... I'm almost dying here of the awesomeness Hasbro / Takara is putting out. And they're trying to make the Titans Return mini series better than Combiner Wars.
Super awesome, all of this stuff, will probably get 75%+ of the entire line, just as combiner Wars and Titans Return before it. And I just started re-collecting Car Robots...
I can't take it... So much Transformers
Posted by Va'al on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:24am CST
noctorro wrote:OMG that DreadWing looks so good. Darkwind, Dreaddark, Windwing.
The lavender colered jet robot.
Darkwing.
Darkwing duck.
Posted by ThunderThruster on November 15th, 2017 @ 7:19am CST
Va'al wrote:noctorro wrote:OMG that DreadWing looks so good. Darkwind, Dreaddark, Windwing.
The lavender colered jet robot.
Darkwing.
Darkwing duck.
Cloud of smoke and he appears,
The master of surprise.
Who's that cunning mind behind
That shadowy disguise?
Nobody knows for sure,
But bad guys are out of luck.
Posted by o.supreme on November 15th, 2017 @ 10:31am CST
It was odd seeing a single Jazz among 10 other TR Deluxes (a mix of wave 3 anf 4 figures...) . I'm thinking either an employee is a collector and got to some first, or perhaps someone else asked, and an employee pulled these out of the back for that person. I did not ask (normally I would), because I just wanted to SEE them. I'm still waiting on to announce their plan for this line before purchasing any . This is just the beginning, we know this will be hitting more of a full saturation in Q1 of 2018.
However, If I do see the 1st wave of Prime masters any time soon I'll probably get those as they are inexpensive, and I'm not sure how plans to sell them. They sold TM's with their deluxes. Since (I'm hoping) the Unite warriors sets will return, perhaps they will be sold with Legends class. Or maybe 2 per Leader? I'm just patiently waiting for to announce their plan.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:19am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:omega666 wrote:Thanks for showing the limb modes. I thought it was pretty half-assed to post a video review and not show the limb mode.
Don't worry, Chucky will have you covered.
wha...? are you putting your video reviews up just now?
if you are....oh goody
I'll get them on Wednesday. The plan is two reviews of two.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:25am CST
o.supreme wrote:So yeah, I found a single jazz at my local target yesterday. I know every sore is different, but this just seemed a little odd. usually with toys. If a shelf space is "full", none will be put out until the current stock is gone, or at least depleted enough to restock an entire case.
It was odd seeing a single Jazz among 10 other TR Deluxes (a mix of wave 3 anf 4 figures...) . I'm thinking either an employee is a collector and got to some first, or perhaps someone else asked, and an employee pulled these out of the back for that person. I did not ask (normally I would), because I just wanted to SEE them. I'm still waiting on to announce their plan for this line before purchasing any . This is just the beginning, we know this will be hitting more of a full saturation in Q1 of 2018.
However, If I do see the 1st wave of Prime masters any time soon I'll probably get those as they are inexpensive, and I'm not sure how plans to sell them. They sold TM's with their deluxes. Since (I'm hoping) the Unite warriors sets will return, perhaps they will be sold with Legends class. Or maybe 2 per Leader? I'm just patiently waiting for to announce their plan.
me too buddy
Posted by Rysquad on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:34am CST
ThunderThruster wrote:Va'al wrote:noctorro wrote:OMG that DreadWing looks so good. Darkwind, Dreaddark, Windwing.
The lavender colered jet robot.
Darkwing.
Darkwing duck.
Cloud of smoke and he appears,
The master of surprise.
Who's that cunning mind behind
That shadowy disguise?
Nobody knows for sure,
But bad guys are out of luck.
When there's trouble you call DW.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:37am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:53am CST
o.supreme wrote:among 10 other TR Deluxes (a mix of wave 3 anf 4 figures...)
Could you elaborate on that bit? I think what you are seeing is the revision wave rather than 2 seperate waves.
Posted by o.supreme on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:58am CST
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:among 10 other TR Deluxes (a mix of wave 3 anf 4 figures...)
Could you elaborate on that bit? I think what you are seeing is the revision wave rather than 2 seperate waves.
Maybe...It was assortments of Krok, Quake, Hot Rod, and Twinferno... and one lonely, lonely Jazz
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 15th, 2017 @ 12:27pm CST
Another thing to keep track of. Joy...
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:06pm CST
Caelus wrote:I haven't opened Swoop yet - I'm strongly considering waiting until I've collected all the Dinobots to open them. Does that sound insane?
Nope, not at all. However with wave 2 likely being quite a bit off, you can do what I did during CW. When I got a new figure, I would open them and play with them right away as a standalone bot. But I would hold off on the combined mode until I had the full team. For example, I didn't use any of the wave 1 arielbots (or Dragstrip) as limbs or torsos until I had Air Raid (and the rest of the stunticons). This even works for bots that are in the same wave. I found the protectobot limbs a month and a half before Hotspot, so I did the same thing there. It kind of prolongs the "discovery" period of a new toy.
Of course, with PotP looking like there will be only 2 set team combiners, and a bunch of extra torsos and limbs for mix and match play, I may have to adjust my methods somewhat.
Hell, who am I kidding, TR took me away from combiners for a while, I'm checking out all the extra limbs right away and making some cool combinations as soon as I can. (But I may hold off on the dinobots and terrorcons as limbs until I have the whole teams.)
Posted by o.supreme on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:08pm CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:17pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Well I'm definitely glad the collector cards are not part of my collecting craze or this would drive me insane. Although I do kind of wish that Hasbro would have just stuck with the collector cards for deluxes in CW rather than having pack-in comics. I know in every territory outside the US they had the cards. Fortunately I'm not crazy enough to try to hunt down all the ones I did not get on eBay...at least not yet .
I'm actually the opposite. I indifferent to the cards, but I loved that they had the pack in comics for CW and Thrilling 30. CW pulled me back into collecting and if it wasn't for the comics, I would have never gotten interested in IDW's current G1 continuity.
I only have so much disposable income for TF's, so that all goes toward the toys, comics are out. I would love if they started including the comics again, just to get another taste. The tfwiki summaries are great, but no replacement for reading through the comics.
But in any case, I'm buying the toys for the toys, not the cards or the comics that might come with them.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:24pm CST
We only have one Prime (Micronus) unaccounted for in the first wave, and we've seen up to five variations on the cards.
(1) Prima ----------------- Swoop
(2) Vector Prime ---------- Swoop
(3) Alpha Trion ----------- Dreadwind
(4) Solus Prime ----------- Slug
(5) Micronus Prime -------- ...
(6) Alchemist Prime ------- Dreadwind, Jazz
(7) Nexus Prime ----------- Dreadwind
(8) Onyx Prime ------------ Dreadwind
(9) Amalgamous Prime ------ Dreadwind, Jazz, Slug, Swoop
(10) Quintus Prime -------- Slug
(11) Liege Maximo --------- Jazz
(12) Megatronus Prime ----- Slug
(13) The Thirteenth Prime - [Probably None]
Or if you prefer:
Wave 1 Deluxe
Dreadwind - Alchemist, Alpha Trion, Amalgamous, Nexus, Onyx
Jazz ------ Alchemist, Amalgamous, Liege Maximo
Swoop ----- Amalgamous, Prima, Vector
Slug ------ Amalgamous, Quintus, Megatronus, Solus
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:28pm CST
Caelus wrote:Intuitively I would have thought that each wave would either (1) have variant cards corresponding to the Prime Masters that should be on the shelf at roughly the same time, or (2) have three variant cards for each figure (4 figures x 3 variants = 12 Primes). However, both those theories are firmly dead already.
We only have one Prime (Micronus) unaccounted for in the first wave, and we've seen up to five variations on the cards.
(1) Prima ----------------- Swoop
(2) Vector Prime ---------- Swoop
(3) Alpha Trion ----------- Dreadwind
(4) Solus Prime ----------- Slug
(5) Micronus Prime -------- ...
(6) Alchemist Prime ------- Dreadwind, Jazz
(7) Nexus Prime ----------- Dreadwind
(8) Onyx Prime ------------ Dreadwind
(9) Amalgamous Prime ------ Dreadwind, Jazz, Slug, Swoop
(10) Quintus Prime -------- Slug
(11) Liege Maximo --------- Jazz
(12) Megatronus Prime ----- Slug
(13) The Thirteenth Prime - [Probably None]
Or if you prefer:
Wave 1 Deluxe
Dreadwind - Alchemist, Alpha Trion, Amalgamous, Nexus, Onyx
Jazz ------ Alchemist, Amalgamous, Liege Maximo
Swoop ----- Amalgamous, Prima, Vector
Slug ------ Amalgamous, Quintus, Megatronus, Solus
Where did we see the Alpha Trion one for Dreadwind?
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CST
Posted by Rysquad on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:39pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Caelus wrote:Intuitively I would have thought that each wave would either (1) have variant cards corresponding to the Prime Masters that should be on the shelf at roughly the same time, or (2) have three variant cards for each figure (4 figures x 3 variants = 12 Primes). However, both those theories are firmly dead already.
We only have one Prime (Micronus) unaccounted for in the first wave, and we've seen up to five variations on the cards.
(1) Prima ----------------- Swoop
(2) Vector Prime ---------- Swoop
(3) Alpha Trion ----------- Dreadwind
(4) Solus Prime ----------- Slug
(5) Micronus Prime -------- ...
(6) Alchemist Prime ------- Dreadwind, Jazz
(7) Nexus Prime ----------- Dreadwind
(8) Onyx Prime ------------ Dreadwind
(9) Amalgamous Prime ------ Dreadwind, Jazz, Slug, Swoop
(10) Quintus Prime -------- Slug
(11) Liege Maximo --------- Jazz
(12) Megatronus Prime ----- Slug
(13) The Thirteenth Prime - [Probably None]
Or if you prefer:
Wave 1 Deluxe
Dreadwind - Alchemist, Alpha Trion, Amalgamous, Nexus, Onyx
Jazz ------ Alchemist, Amalgamous, Liege Maximo
Swoop ----- Amalgamous, Prima, Vector
Slug ------ Amalgamous, Quintus, Megatronus, Solus
Where did we see the Alpha Trion one for Dreadwind?
I also got Alpha Trion Dreadwind.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:40pm CST
As for Micronus, stock photos showed him as one of Jazz' associated Primes.
Posted by Omegatron. on November 15th, 2017 @ 1:49pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 15th, 2017 @ 2:18pm CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 15th, 2017 @ 2:28pm CST
Lol - I'll do their job if they're having problems keeping up.
It's writing, what 288, 360 discrete sentences? That's like a fun Saturday afternoon project.
-------------------------
Just because I have to be a smart@$$:
(1) Prima Rung ----------- Channels the noble leadership of the first Prime, to inspire his clients to improve themselves!
(2) Vector Rung ---------- Dilates time so he can devote more attention to his patients.
(3) Alpha Trion Rung ----- Adds his name to the Covenant of Primus, so it won't be forgotten!
(4) Solus Rung ----------- Expands his ship collection by building REAL ships.
(5) Micronus Rung -------- Proves that nobody is too small to do big things.
(6) Alchemist Rung ------- Looks into the true nature of things, to understand his friends at the most fundamental level!
(7) Nexus Rung ----------- Connects with his clients, to build trust!
(8) Onyx Rung ------------ Helps patients tame their bestial ids!
(9) Amalgamous Rung ------ Changes therapy techniques rapidly, to adapt to his patients' individual needs!
(10) Quintus Rung -------- Heals traumatized minds.
(11) Liege Maximo Rung --- Uses confederates and bogus pipelines to see through research participants' socially desirable responding.
(12) Megatronus Rung ----- Taps into the tormented past of The Fallen, to understand even the worst Cybertron has to offer.
Posted by william-james88 on November 15th, 2017 @ 3:10pm CST
o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:among 10 other TR Deluxes (a mix of wave 3 anf 4 figures...)
Could you elaborate on that bit? I think what you are seeing is the revision wave rather than 2 seperate waves.
Maybe...It was assortments of Krok, Quake, Hot Rod, and Twinferno... and one lonely, lonely Jazz
Yup, revision. I should make a news post for those wondering why they keep seeing Krok and Quake but not the others.
Posted by bodrock on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:05pm CST
Posted by Skritz on November 15th, 2017 @ 5:17pm CST
Okay this is really, really cool.
I actually quite like that some are less useful than others because it sort of make sense from some fluff perspective that some of these powers combine better than others depending on the nature of the being carrying the Prime Master while others synergize much better.
Edit: You know what make me a little sad about the 'Prime War' trilogy? This subline trilogy of Generations may arguably very well be, in a way, the most ridiculously 'anime' Transformers has gotten in the last decade, ever since the Michael Bay films brought the franchise focus much more on the American/Hasbro end rather than Japanese/Takara end. We got combiners, headmasters, powermasters...arguably all gimmicks which are more closely associated with the japanese side of mechas when you really think about it and this was made all the more clear as the Prime War ended up focusing on late G1 characters by the time Titans Return rolled around, characters often more associated with Japanese Transformers more than US Transformers due to the american TV show having ended by the point they were on shelves. It has plug and play mechanics, a ton of gimmick interactions and macguffins up the wazoos!
Honestly, had the Prime War trilogy been made in the earlier 2000, it would have seemed like the perfect kind of line to turn into an American-Japanese coproduction filled with equal part awesome and equal part stupid, over the top super robot anime bull shit with what some of us who recall the Transformers wiki would recall as BURNING JUSTICE! Those are silly things, which frankly I used to hate when younger but as I got old and more chill came to accept as often maligned part of the franchise but nonetheless having its place in it.
What I'm saying is: in a way, this whole line seem like, had it been made in a different time period and environment, would have basically been like the Unicron trilogy. And sure, there are the Machinima series but its just really nothing like that. I also think its not very good.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CST
Latebrus-K wrote:Has anyone tried putting Ptero in Swoop's chest armor? Not sure if it would be awesome or just disturbing.
I tried, but my photo skills aren't the best. Swoops chest armor kinda sucks on its own no matter what Titan/Prime/Head master you put in there mainly because his dino head makes the armor stick way out.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:50pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Thanks, logged
As for Micronus, stock photos showed him as one of Jazz' associated Primes.
For your log, I ended up with Megatronus Jazz, Megatronus Slug, Megatronus Swoop and Nexus Dreadwind.
Posted by Va'al on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:58pm CST
First of all, shown off for comparison is wave-mate but Voyager cousin Dinobot leader Grimlock, in his new guise as combiner torso too, along with robot and space Tyrannosaurus Rex (debatable). While there is no actual review of the figure yet, we do get to look at the toy in both its modes in the two clips available from Kevin - which also means we get an initial look at combined form Volcanicus! But that's not all: the final part, also in the two reviews, is an in-package shot of Legend class Slash, the new female Dinobot member. Take a look at the screenshots provided below, and keep your optics tuned for reviews of both Voyager and Legend dinos sure to be appearing soon.
Posted by bodrock on November 15th, 2017 @ 8:58pm CST
None of the Target stores I went to had the figures on the shelf, thanks to all the TLK and wave revisions.
Posted by Nightbeat339 on November 15th, 2017 @ 9:19pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on November 15th, 2017 @ 10:17pm CST
Jazz looks OK in robot mode, but alt mode looks very weird for Jazz. His mouth isn't really molded either which just looks weird up close. If his head looked like the artwork on the box, I'd be very happy.
Swoop's wings bug me a lot in robot mode mode for some reason. I like the idea of the "gold" paint on the inside of the translucent plastic, but the color that was used looks blah and doesn't look very gold to me. Would chrome paint have been a possibility? As is the case with all of the deluxe Dinobots, his body isn't wide enough or something, which I've also complained about with some of the Aerialbots and Vortex (off the top of my head).
Slug looks fairly good in robot mode, though not as bulky as I would have preferred. His triceratops mode's fringe has a weird slant or looks off.
Dreadwind and Blackwing both suffer from the too-thin or not-wide-enough bodies of the aforementioned Combiner Wars figures. I would have really liked to have seen them as Voyagers.
I was hoping that once I had them in hand, I'd feel differently, but I don't. I've wanted a really nice set of modern day Dinobots for so long that this set is just a disappointment, with Grimlock being the biggest deal breaker of the five of them. He has so many things wrong with the way he looks and the lack of his sword and gun is just a real bummer. I'm not keen on any of the other upcoming Deluxes or Voyagers either.
Rodimus Prime looks like he could be a fun toy, but it also has some issues (most notably Hot Rod's legs for shoulders just can't be unseen. Optimus is close but his colors are way off ... but the issue with the truck's cab being a jumbled mess leaves me feeling disappointed.
The Deluxes and Voyagers, with the exception of the Abominus figures (who really need Hun-Gurrr's gun for Abominus) suffer from being Combiners. While I'm not a big fan of characters who weren't combiners in G1 becoming Combiners now, what irks me more is that many of these toys suffer because they're trying to do too much because they're Combiners. I just want cool toys. Titans Return was really cool for the most part, but some of those figures suffered as well because of the "brand wide" gimmick such as Galvatron (who had a terrible head) and Soundwave (whose head looks goofy). I get the "brand wide" gimmick from a marketing and sales perspective, but as a fan I don't care for it when I see figures suffer because of it.
Just to clarify, there were a lot of great exceptions with brand-wide gimmicks as well. Perceptor, Windblade, Octane, Twin Twist and Topspin all come to mind as fantastic figures that looked great in both modes and added the "Headmaster" gimmick to characters that shouldn't have that feature. Those figures looked so good that I didn't mind them also being a Headmaster.
Just wanted to vent a little after seeing more disappointing pics of Grimlock and after feeling disappointed by the wave 1 deluxes after getting them in hand today. Normally I'm all cheerleader-like doing the "rah rah rah" bit for anything and everything Transformers yet I can't get over this "disappointed" feeling about the entirety of what has been revealed for Power of the Primes so far.
Posted by william-james88 on November 15th, 2017 @ 10:20pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:while I cant speak for the hot rods, what cobotron is seeing is definitely the revision wave. I will make a news post about it since I see a lot of confusion. Its actually new (not that anyone wanted it)
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ion/39261/
Aww man, I'd kill for that wave to freshen things up near me, no, I put some stock out a month ago and it was the legit wave 1('17) figures: hotrod, doublecross, triggerhappy and breakaway. I was so pissed since we had just finished moving that wave from our store which had been there since December of last year
Maybe it wasnt. How many hot rods were in the case, 2 or 3? Because there is a revision set that looks the same as wave 3 but changes the amount of characters in it so that there is no short packed figure.
So maybe yes, you do have a revision wave in stock.
https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... =HSB7762C1
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:03pm CST
Posted by bodrock on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:21pm CST
Rysquad wrote:San Diego folks -
Looks like Target in Santee put a case in it's system. I checked the Target DCPI number for PotP Deluxe (087-06-5863) on Brickseek this morning and saw that they had them in stock. Of course, they weren't out on the floor but politely asked if they could check the back, which showed 6 figures. The Target Team Member brought out an opened case - looked like someone asked before I did. Picked up Dreadwind but left Swoop (2), Slag (2) and Jazz (1) in the box.
It's all thanks to Rysquad, Bronzewolf!
I followed his steps -- like I mentioned earlier, you may want to call ahead to confirm, as Target will most likely not have them on the floor, thanks to TR & TLK.
I hear ya on the Dinobots, Seibertron! Grimmy is not doing it for me either, and I'm not honestly planning on picking them all up -- except for Slash. MOAR FEMME BOTS, plz.
Same thing with Jazz -- his G1 incarnation remains my fave.
I'll most likely buy all the Pretender/PMs, though. And Rodimus Unicronus.
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 15th, 2017 @ 11:49pm CST
sure this new combiner may not look as we hoped but it will do, its close enough
Posted by Bounti76 on November 16th, 2017 @ 1:08am CST
bodrock wrote:Rysquad wrote:San Diego folks -
Looks like Target in Santee put a case in it's system. I checked the Target DCPI number for PotP Deluxe (087-06-5863) on Brickseek this morning and saw that they had them in stock. Of course, they weren't out on the floor but politely asked if they could check the back, which showed 6 figures. The Target Team Member brought out an opened case - looked like someone asked before I did. Picked up Dreadwind but left Swoop (2), Slag (2) and Jazz (1) in the box.
It's all thanks to Rysquad, Bronzewolf!
I followed his steps -- like I mentioned earlier, you may want to call ahead to confirm, as Target will most likely not have them on the floor, thanks to TR & TLK.
I hear ya on the Dinobots, Seibertron! Grimmy is not doing it for me either, and I'm not honestly planning on picking them all up -- except for Slash. MOAR FEMME BOTS, plz.
Same thing with Jazz -- his G1 incarnation remains my fave.
I'll most likely buy all the Pretender/PMs, though. And Rodimus Unicronus.
I gave the DPCI code to a Target associate and they were really nice and got the box out for me. He opened it and then, essentially just left me to look through it for the figures I wanted. Got one of each. From what another associate said, they're likely not going to be put on shelves until next week sometime, probably Black Friday, as she said they were all located in an area that was specifically for Black Friday stock- but that they could sell them, as there was no street date on them.
Posted by Qwan on November 16th, 2017 @ 2:03am CST
Customer service reps at all three stores (well actually just two; the third store moved its customer service desk some time last year and I haven't been able to find it since ) were really nice and helpful; one store tried to help me for what must've been a solid half hour before they apologised for not being able to find anything. They didn't seem to recognise the concepts or examples of DPCI or manufacturer codes so no luck there, but they searched all through the systems as best they could.
The main information I got out of this, aside from the fact that my local stores probably don't have any PotP stuff yet, is that 1) Every store-chain gives items their own individual database codes, so more general ones might not actually be much use, and 2) It's practically impossible to look up a figure in the database if you don't already know the code of the thing you're looking for (especially if you're not sure whether it's even in the database yet to begin with).
So on the Australian end at least, I think the conclusion here is "sit tight and they'll come eventually". And also "gee I wish there was something like Brickseek that'd work for Australian stores".