Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab)

Transformers News: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab)

Monday, June 19th, 2017 8:16AM CDT

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Courtesy of fellow board member RodimusConvoy13, we now know that TakaraTomy Mall has finally put up a listing for the much-awaited God Ginrai giftset - a set containing their previous releases Super Ginrai and Godbomber, along with two new exclusive Titan Masters in Minerva and Cab from the Masterforce series. Along with the listing, they have of course uploaded a small batch of images; allowing us to see the Minerva and Cab Titan Masters in their 'robot' modes - though unfortunately not their head modes. In addition, it shows that the sword, chestplate and shoulder cannon of Godbomber have been done up in chrome, while the windows on Ginrai's cab are now clear plastic. This giftset is to be released in November of this year for 17,280 Yen; or $155 in American currency. Check out the pre-order here, check out the images below, and check out our forums for discussion!

Transformers News: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab)

Transformers News: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab)

Transformers News: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab)

Transformers News: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab)

Transformers News: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab)
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Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890393)
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2017 @ 8:21am CDT
SHOW US THE DAMN FACES TAKARA!!!!!
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890397)
Posted by kurthy on June 19th, 2017 @ 8:49am CDT
william-james88 wrote:SHOW US THE DAMN FACES TAKARA!!!!!


:lol:

Takara is great at trolling fans!
:BOWDOWN:
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890404)
Posted by Rated X on June 19th, 2017 @ 9:14am CDT
I just got my god ginrai so im good. If the titans came with vehicles to interact with I would feel cheated. But Im not into swapping heads with bodies that dont belong to them so no big loss. One thing I would assume is that reversing the paint scheme on the cab part leaves a lot more room for paint imperfections. Before you had a few blue paint apps (windows) over a red plastic cab part. Now youre gonna have red paint all over a clear blue plastic cab part just for the sake of clear windows. I see lots of messy paint errors coming out the factory. As a huge buyer of takara figures, I can tell you the paint isnt always as perfect as you would expect for double the price of Hasbro versions. And whats funny is that this reissue means that "Magnus Prime" and the inevitable god bomber US release box set will be worthless for those scalpers who like to break up sets and sell em...lol.
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890405)
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2017 @ 9:19am CDT
Rated X wrote: I can tell you the paint isnt always as perfect as you would expect for double the price of Hasbro versions.

Takara toys cost more for US fans because of extra importing fees, it has nothing to do with the paint apps.
For example, Legends Sixshot costs $54 in Japan, which is faaaar from double the cost of Hasbro.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... 1&rank=ctg
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890409)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 19th, 2017 @ 9:30am CDT
So glad I waited for this and didn't immediately jump on the first two releases. Now I just need to get the Wheelie/Goshooter set to have Shuta to go with Cab and Minerva.
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890425)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on June 19th, 2017 @ 9:58am CDT
Wow. This entire giftset is AWESOME! :D
Too bad it might be a while before I can actually get it. :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890492)
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 19th, 2017 @ 1:22pm CDT
Even though that chrome is from the original godbomber, I just want the chrome sword. Im quite sure that metallic paint will scratch off very easy.
Phenomenal price though
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890508)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on June 19th, 2017 @ 2:00pm CDT
that set looks gourgeous, looks like im going to be double dipping on these guys after all
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890568)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 19th, 2017 @ 4:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:SHOW US THE DAMN FACES TAKARA!!!!!


Like we say in québécois,
TAKARA BANDE D'AGACES-PISSETTES! :-(
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890572)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 19th, 2017 @ 4:44pm CDT
So in summation Takara you can have my money for this set it. >:oP I shall then keep my Super Ginrai in convoy mode thus figuring out what the hell to do with the future arrival of Magnus Prime. :-P :VEHI:
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890573)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 19th, 2017 @ 4:44pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote: I can tell you the paint isnt always as perfect as you would expect for double the price of Hasbro versions.

Takara toys cost more for US fans because of extra importing fees, it has nothing to do with the paint apps.
For example, Legends Sixshot costs $54 in Japan, which is faaaar from double the cost of Hasbro.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... 1&rank=ctg


And I can tell the same thing for us Canadian who import all American goods. Exchange + hig shipping, + surprise custom fees can amount to TRIPLE or QUADRUPLE the original cost.

Like, eh, it's all a matter of perspective.
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890574)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 19th, 2017 @ 4:45pm CDT
Anyone know if the giftset Ginrai was retooled to have reversible knees?
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890576)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on June 19th, 2017 @ 4:49pm CDT
I just want the two Headmaster Jrs., I could source the other two via other means... which means waiting until Hasbro actually releases that Magic Mushroom.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Anyone know if the giftset Ginrai was retooled to have reversible knees?


You're gonna have to explain that one.
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890613)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 19th, 2017 @ 6:20pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I just want the two Headmaster Jrs., I could source the other two via other means... which means waiting until Hasbro actually releases that Magic Mushroom.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Anyone know if the giftset Ginrai was retooled to have reversible knees?


You're gonna have to explain that one.


Knees that bend forward as well as backward. The PMOP/Super Ginrai mold desperately needs them for the sake of the base mode. As-is, the ramps are stuck pointing backward and running under the "towers" made by the arms, which A. reduces the resemblance to the original PMOP's base mode and B. impairs their function. With reversible knees the base mode decks could be rotated 90 degrees outward. This would not only improve the resemblance, it would also provide better clearance for stuff to drive up and down the ramps.
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890622)
Posted by Overcracker on June 19th, 2017 @ 7:40pm CDT
PMOP can already do that:



I'm pretty sure Ginrai can do the same.
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890713)
Posted by Rated X on June 20th, 2017 @ 12:20am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote: I can tell you the paint isnt always as perfect as you would expect for double the price of Hasbro versions.

Takara toys cost more for US fans because of extra importing fees, it has nothing to do with the paint apps.
For example, Legends Sixshot costs $54 in Japan, which is faaaar from double the cost of Hasbro.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... 1&rank=ctg



Weve been through this debate before. Whether the extra cost in incurred through import fees, price gouging, or Japans gift to the sky gods, its still double the amount of money coming out of my pocket for a piece of plastic that does the same thing.

And the reason I dont really buy into the "import fees" theory is because the toys are all made from the same molds. The crates of takara figures BBTS and TFSource recieve never touch Japanese soil. They get shipped from the Chinese factory they were made directly to the US. Thats right, the same exact route on the same cargo ship or plane that the hasbro crates get to the US. So that import fee excuse is TOTAL BULLS**T. Its called PRICE GOUGING...Japanese writing on a box doesnt mean its made in Japan. Its made in China and shipped to the US at the same cost that the hasbro figures get shipped to the US. Open your eyes my brother....its price gouging.
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890715)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 20th, 2017 @ 12:43am CDT
Oh, there probably is price-gouging by BBTS, but import fees are doubtless still a factor. Even if the crates never touched Japanese soil, being the Japanese edition presumably qualifies them as a foreign product and thus subjects them to import fees (which are basically protectionist tariffs) tacked on to the freight cost. Same kind of thing that inflates shipping from Canada to the US and from the US to Canada.

Overcracker, the only part of my description that mode matches is the part about giving the ramps better clearance for things to drive up and down :roll: . Admittedly it's an improvement on the base mode in the official instructions for PMOP (which is what I have. The only Japanese import I've ever gotten was Encore Ratchet, because I found him MISB on eBay for $20 shipped), but it's not exactly what I was talking about. It doesn't involve the knees bending 90 degrees forwards (which they cannot do) or really improve the resemblance to the original PMOP base mode
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890743)
Posted by william-james88 on June 20th, 2017 @ 7:34am CDT
Rated X wrote:
Weve been through this debate before. Whether the extra cost in incurred through import fees, price gouging, or Japans gift to the sky gods, its still double the amount of money coming out of my pocket for a piece of plastic that does the same thing.

Sure, but your theory is that there are evil mail men who conspire to make toys exclusive to certain nations so that people must pay them more to ship them. Its nonsense.

Just contracts, really. Takara toys can only be bought in japan, so anyone in the US has to pay shipping. For Hasbro toys, they cover the shipping to america, since they distribute the product there, so retailers dont have to fork out added costs. Thats it.

It's the same in reverse. Since Hasbro toys cant be sold directly to japanese people, they must also be imported, so a japanese fans ends up paying $100 for Titans Return Octane and Blitzwing together

http://www.redmercury.co.jp/shop/detail ... -RED-14033


And @ Zelda, I really like your avatar!
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890748)
Posted by Kurona on June 20th, 2017 @ 8:23am CDT
Weren't there also Japanese fans clamouring for Hasbro-exclusive CW stuff like Offroad and G2 Bruticus? How much could they expect to fork out for those?
Re: Pre-Order and Images of Takara Legends God Ginrai (Ginrai, Godbomber, Minerva and Cab) (1890760)
Posted by Rated X on June 20th, 2017 @ 9:01am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Weve been through this debate before. Whether the extra cost in incurred through import fees, price gouging, or Japans gift to the sky gods, its still double the amount of money coming out of my pocket for a piece of plastic that does the same thing.

Sure, but your theory is that there are evil mail men who conspire to make toys exclusive to certain nations so that people must pay them more to ship them. Its nonsense.

Just contracts, really. Takara toys can only be bought in japan, so anyone in the US has to pay shipping. For Hasbro toys, they cover the shipping to america, since they distribute the product there, so retailers dont have to fork out added costs. Thats it.

It's the same in reverse. Since Hasbro toys cant be sold directly to japanese people, they must also be imported, so a japanese fans ends up paying $100 for Titans Return Octane and Blitzwing together

http://www.redmercury.co.jp/shop/detail ... -RED-14033


And @ Zelda, I really like your avatar!



I never said anything about evil mail men or conspiracy theories so dont try to put words in my mouth.

Youre theory completely defies all logic from a corporate standpoint. Youre talking as if you have copies of takara contracts translated in the palm of your hand and know exactly what they do just because. You have offered no proof that the Chinese based factory jointly owned by Hasbro/Takara spends double the money to ship pallets of toys to Japan only to be put on another boat and be shipped to the US. That defies all logic. It would be millions in wasted revenue on shipping large trailer sized crates twice instead of once. Remember Hasbro Asia owns the molds, takara just uses them and packs their figures in carboard with Japanese writing.

Still think all pallets of Takara products touch Japanese soil before beginning their journey to the US and other countries?

Then please explain how a bunch of Takara Chromedome heads got packaged with Hasbro bodies and sent to the US?

This is proof that both Takara and Hasbro figures are made in the same factory by the same people in China. While that alone doesnt directly proce your double shipping costs theory wrong, it doesnt prove it right either. Thats where using good old fashioned logic comes in handy. Its not about "evil mail men" or Japanese conspiracy theories. Its about smart business practices and cost reduction. It just MAKES SENSE from a business standpoint. Takara owns their products made in China even if they never touch Japanese soil. They can ship them from wherever they choose to cut costs. Its their property.

The only thing you proved in the past to me with your news connections is that takara products sell in Japanese retail outlets for the same price as hasbro versions when you translate the currency to US dollars. And I gave you credit for that. (Even though they were selling takara animated figures for $35 US dollars a pop the one time I was physically in a Japanese airport briefly to catch a connecting flight to the Philippines :-? ) Ill give you the benefit of the doubt on that one and assume the airport gift shop was gouging the prices for tourists, not Takara themselves.

But just do yourself a favor and kill the talk about conspiracy theories, my friend. Uless you can provide a copy of Takara shipping contracts that offer definitive proof where they can and cant ship the property they paid for, dont say you know. The only thing we can do is refer to smart business practices. Hasbro/Takara is known for finding ways to cut costs and increase profits, so one can only assume that they are smart enough not to waste millions by paying for shipping twice. ;)^

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