Pre-Orders Listed for Takara Tomy MP-36+ Megatron

I’m curious if the toy-accurate face is the only one he comes with. I already own MP-36 Megatron and I love him to pieces as is but if I didn’t have him but was given this as an option I would hope he came with cartoon-accurate faces.

Mindmaster wrote:I’m curious if the toy-accurate face is the only one he comes with. I already own MP-36 Megatron and I love him to pieces as is but if I didn’t have him but was given this as an option I would hope he came with cartoon-accurate faces.

Crossing my fingers that he comes with comic and/or concept art head just for fun along with the original faces.



Emerje

hate being that guy, but doesn't this mean takara knocked off the parts off a ko? cause the toy house factory ko of megatron has the new chest and face , and looks exactly the same....

I might be wrong since I haven't followed MP-36 and his knockoffs too closely. But, I think the image in Seibertron's article is just a placeholder? I don't believe it actually depicts MP-36+, who appears to have no images on either BBTS or TFSource yet - it may well be a picture of that very KO, though I couldn't say for sure.

Qwan wrote:I might be wrong since I haven't followed MP-36 and his knockoffs too closely. But, I think the image in Seibertron's article is just a placeholder? I don't believe it actually depicts MP-36+, who appears to have no images on either BBTS or TFSource yet - it may well be a picture of that very KO, though I couldn't say for sure.

the ko didn't have red on the inside of the arms and legs, so its not the ko. plus this image was shown on a official takara reveal image....

Octobotimus wrote:

Qwan wrote:I might be wrong since I haven't followed MP-36 and his knockoffs too closely. But, I think the image in Seibertron's article is just a placeholder? I don't believe it actually depicts MP-36+, who appears to have no images on either BBTS or TFSource yet - it may well be a picture of that very KO, though I couldn't say for sure.

the ko didn't have red on the inside of the arms and legs, so its not the ko. plus this image was shown on a official takara reveal image....

Ohh, yeah you're right! As is totally obvious now, I haven't been following MP-36 and his releases very much

Hum, I guess you could phrase it as Takara taking parts from a KO. Personally though, I think it's more likely that Takara decided to do these parts since they're toy-accurate (for the toy-accurate release of the mold), and since it and the KO draw from the exact same source material they look very similar. I highly doubt Takara would actually knock off the parts from the KO.

It is the other way around. These parts existed a while back but were always meant for 8 L release. As we have seen before knock off companies will take even yet to be released samples and turn them into actual product. This is what happened here.

william-james88 wrote:It is the other way around. These parts existed a while back but were always meant for 8 L release. As we have seen before knock off companies will take even yet to be released samples and turn them into actual product. This is what happened here.

Exactly what I was thinking. We've seen it with MPM Barricade having the KO released at the same time as the real one and we've seen an OSKO prototype of TF6 MPM VW Bumblebee before the figure has even been announced. The KO companies are getting more proficient at sneaking these figures out of the factory, that's all there is to it.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:It is the other way around. These parts existed a while back but were always meant for 8 L release. As we have seen before knock off companies will take even yet to be released samples and turn them into actual product. This is what happened here.

but the ko apparently took those parts from a 3rd party upgrade kit, so either we are calling a 3rd party thieves, or takara ko'd a ko of a 3rd party kit.

Thanks for the heads up Jak!
Pre-order locked in.

Octobotimus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:It is the other way around. These parts existed a while back but were always meant for 8 L release. As we have seen before knock off companies will take even yet to be released samples and turn them into actual product. This is what happened here.

but the ko apparently took those parts from a 3rd party upgrade kit, so either we are calling a 3rd party thieves, or takara ko'd a ko of a 3rd party kit.

Or they look very similar because they are based on the exact same G1 design.

Why would Takara want or need to knock off anything?!

The theroy of these parts being pretooled along with the original release, and then hiested by Chinese factory thieves is the simplest explanation. There for the most logical one.

I just assumed either:
1) Both the KO and 36+ toy faces are each original pieces, but extremely similar given the source, and we'd confirm once both were side by side, or
2) The pretool theory, they are the same and was originated from Takara.

Honestly at the time, I just looked at it and went "huh" and went with theory #1 and didn't give it any thought beyond that. But Takara stealing a KO's work? I find that unlikely.

shajaki wrote:But Takara stealing a KO's work? I find that unlikely.

Emphasis on stealing, as that could potentially could land TakaraTomy in legal hot water. "What's the worst that could happen" (Google it), stealing from the thief is still stealing.

When it was first revealed, the toy-accurate version of Masterpiece Megatron 2.0 was not much more than a somewhat blurry scan from a hobby magazine. When site sponsors started putting up pre-orders for this toy, we knew it couldn't be long before official, high quality images surfaced. And now, thanks to Takara Tomy's own website, we have 10 high quality photos of this addition to the MP ranks. They show off a very toy accurate deco, including a new face and chest piece, along with the stock and silencer from the original release of MP-36. The helmet itself appears to be the same, as one picture shows MP-36's face and chestplate attached.

One notable feature shared with the previous version version of this mold, is the inclusion of sound and voice clips by Megatron's Japanese G1 voice actor. It does not seem to include any of the other accessories that the original (toon-accurate) version has.

So what do YOU think, fellow Seibertronians? Do these pictures whet your appetite for this figure? If they do, you can use the handy links below to pre-order this bad boy. Even if you don't plan on getting him, let us know what you think!





 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Preorder him via Big Bad Toy Store here:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/74810

Or via TFSource, here:
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-36-plus-megatron/

It looks great! All that silver and chrome really help gun mode, and that headsculp looks really cool. That red looks gorgeous too. If this comes with the giant sword and blaster rifle the Japanese G1 toy had, I'm sold. Too bad I can't afford it though

Ugh, that is grotesque! Silver or grey, one or the other - both like that just looks awful!

Oh man! I think he looks great!

Also, I think he will come with some accessories. He has an alternate head and chest in this shot.

Whilst I'm happy with Despotron, if I get any version of this mold it'll be that one.

Hard pass, do not care for the toy accurate deco. The original MP-36 works just fine for me.

And are those stickers? I wouldn't pay $250 for stickers.

kurthy wrote:Hard pass, do not care for the toy accurate deco. The original MP-36 works just fine for me.

And are those stickers? I wouldn't pay $250 for stickers.

Good thing you get a toy with them too

Also for the sticker debate, see MP Artfire.

Cobotron wrote:Oh man! I think he looks great!

Also, I think he will come with some accessories. He has an alternate head and chest in this shot.

He's the wearing the normal non-plus MP-36 face and chest in that shot.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Oh man! I think he looks great!

Also, I think he will come with some accessories. He has an alternate head and chest in this shot.

He's the wearing the normal non-plus MP-36 face and chest in that shot.

They look a bit metallic. Did the previous release have metallic parts?

Toy accurate? But where is the crotch trigger?

MagicDeath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Oh man! I think he looks great!

Also, I think he will come with some accessories. He has an alternate head and chest in this shot.

He's the wearing the normal non-plus MP-36 face and chest in that shot.

They look a bit metallic. Did the previous release have metallic parts?

Good eye! They do look shinier, yes.

Sabrblade wrote:

MagicDeath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Oh man! I think he looks great!

Also, I think he will come with some accessories. He has an alternate head and chest in this shot.

He's the wearing the normal non-plus MP-36 face and chest in that shot.

They look a bit metallic. Did the previous release have metallic parts?

Good eye! They do look shinier, yes.

Unless the lighting is off, the helmet part of that face is a different color than the one on MP-36. This is very cool. If this and the new Shockwave were the first versions to come out, I would have totally bought them. But, I can't drop the same money on these all over again.

So....

shajaki wrote:So....

They look different to me. It means Takara didnt copy anything. And it makessense taht they are similar since both the KO and Takara are pooling from the same source, being the G1 toy.

Though I don't care to own it, this is really awesome. Can't wait to see the Prime counterpart.

He does look awesome. But I already have MP-36 and Dynastron (who is all reprolabeled up) so I'm good.

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:So....

They look different to me. It means Takara didnt copy anything. And it makessense taht they are similar since both the KO and Takara are pooling from the same source, being the G1 toy.

I'm actually willing to bet that the KO toy face is the same and the 36+. It and the new chest are freakishly similar. These new pics are higher res and such, but are still too small to make out the finer details. On the 36+ face, there's a lot more black added which makes it difficult to confirm. Here's a better pics of the KO though.



And all the face/chest pics of 36+

The more I look at it, the more convinced I get they're the same. The placement of the curles on the chest are identical.

I could imagine someone from the KO company getting their hands on (leaked/stolen) preliminary design work for MP-36+ and getting them released in KO form ahead of the official Takara version.

Sabrblade wrote:I could imagine someone from the KO company getting their hands on (leaked/stolen) preliminary design work for MP-36+ and getting them released in KO form ahead of the official Takara version.

My thoughts as well. Highly unlikely that TT is thieving KO pieces.

shajaki wrote:So....

Sorry. Couldn't resist

It's Hasbro's IP, they can do what they want

There was a lot of talk over what would be included in Takara's release of the toy accurate Deco for Masterpiece Megatron, numbered MP-36 +. After all, one of the mostimportant aspects of this release is an accessory, a toy accurate face, so we wondered if he would come with his other faces from the original release. Well, we finally have confirmation that he does. He comes with all the gun accessories, 3 shinier versions of the faces that came with MP 36, and a shinnier version fo the breastplate that came with MP 36. No extra weapons are included. All the images come from Dengeki Hobby.

kyano13neo shared an image from the toy show, on Twitter, where we see him next to the G1 toy counterpart which is not as shiny since this MP 36 + is based on the Hasbro G1 toy (and thus, the Takara 16-S release of G1 Megatron).

Awww, I really was hoping for at least the sword from the Japanese G1 toy... Oh well, it's accurate to the American release of the toy. It still looks great in my opinion, but for me, I'd buy this mainly for the superior gun mode compared to MP-36's dull grey gun

Pretty lame. Shoulda had the sword and gun.

william-james88 wrote:kyano13neo shared an image from the toy show, on Twitter, where we see him next to the G1 toy counterpart which is not as shiny since this MP 36 + is based on the Hasbro G1 toy (and thus, the Takara 16-S release of G1 Megatron).

Alternatively you could also say it's the Microman version which also had the chrome. The one in the photo is the Chronicles figure from Dark of the Moon with selective sticker application (including the chest sticker over the tampograph). The original G1 Japanese release was based on a Microman variant that replaced the red plastic with blue while 16-S was chromed like Hasbro's.

Chronicles Megatron


Original Walther P38 U.N.C.L.E.


Megatron 16-S


Emerje

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame I wanted the mace!

Looks great actually! But for me nothing beats the cartoon look. It's nice that the people who buy this edition will be able to enjoy the cartoon inspired sculpt, too. The swappable pieces are a good gimmick.

Any word if they've "tweaked" the joints and connections so transformation is a bit more manageable?

Interesting how that Japanese description for Rodimus Unicronus makes no mention of how his deco is inspired by SG Rodimus (despite SG supposedly being popular in Japan), but does for some reason mention the G1 episode where Rodimus Prime lost the Matrix to Scourge.

Sabrblade wrote:Interesting how that Japanese description for Rodimus Unicronus makes no mention of how his deco is inspired by SG Rodimus, but does for some reason mention the G1 episode where Rodimus Prime lost the Matrix to Scourge.

Also interesting that for Bomb-Burst, they mention his Masterforce counterpart Blood by name.

But this is the Masterpiece G1 Megatron thread, so I'll stop right there.

A video from TakaraTomy's Youtube page. Go to 23:40 to see MP+ Megs.