Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20

Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20

Saturday, July 7th, 2018 1:57am CDT

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The weekend brings us not one, not two, but three previews for new comics from the Transformers universe (and what is left from the Hasbro Universe too, I suppose) of IDW Publishing comics!

The next preview, mirrored below with description and pages, is directly from IDW Publishing via their Issuu documents, and features the next issue in the Lost Light saga with number 20, and part 2 of Crucible, in which we find out more about Grand Architects, Scraplets, Mutineers, deranged plans, and head towards Rodimus vs Getaway! Check it out, and join the conversation in the Energon Pub before its release next week.

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Transformers News: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20

Transformers News: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20

Transformers News: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20

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Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969233)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 7th, 2018 @ 2:03am CDT
Well the sparkeaters were beaten quite quickly...and it's going to be so good when roddy punches getaway...when he fails to get-away
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969288)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 7th, 2018 @ 9:40am CDT
Quint wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
I think that speaks more to the contrived means of his "surrender". A publicly made propaganda speech, renouncing himself and his actions. The -Ations said it best, the only difference between the two factions in IDWverse is the brands they wear. Every planet that fell was crushed between the two factions, in equal measure. Everything other than one side achieving supremacy was deemed acceptable losses, to Megatron and Prime.


Among other things, the Autobots didn't engage in the infiltration process, which led to the extinction of myriad organic species through the Phase Six onslaught. Guys... this is textbook false equivalency, come on :lol: :lol:


AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Of course not, that is why they made him "Auto-Megatron". In the same respect as they didn't know how to "end" a four million year civil war of attrition, so you got faux peace instead.


Yeeeeeah... specious reasoning there. See above.


Cute but no :lol:

When you actually read between the lines of what's in print, your entire counterpoint is based on the premise that the Autobots were not just as equally entrenched in the same worlds as the Decepticons. Which is nonsense.

They were on these worlds together. The Autobots were never fighting to free these worlds, they were fighting the Decepticons on just another battlefield. Each trying to hamper the resources of the other. The inhabitants of each world were irrelevant to both sides, a means to an end.

Think back to their discussions on Phase Six, the Autobots were sketchy on the details, because by that point they had already written off that particular front and moved onto the next.

Again, this isn't me pulling out silly ideas out of thin air, this is based on the printed page. Interesting to read none the less, but you're wrong in your assumptions.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969308)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 7th, 2018 @ 12:15pm CDT
Yeah it's been hinted that the bots hands are far from clean, after all, from what I can recall, only humans are bothered by what faction the tfs are, all other aliens hate then both...why would that be I wonder?
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969313)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 7th, 2018 @ 12:33pm CDT
Exactly. At the end of the day, to the outsider looking in, this is a Civil War between Cybertonians. Colours may be different but they are the same race.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969318)
Posted by Quint on July 7th, 2018 @ 12:44pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Quint wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
I think that speaks more to the contrived means of his "surrender". A publicly made propaganda speech, renouncing himself and his actions. The -Ations said it best, the only difference between the two factions in IDWverse is the brands they wear. Every planet that fell was crushed between the two factions, in equal measure. Everything other than one side achieving supremacy was deemed acceptable losses, to Megatron and Prime.


Among other things, the Autobots didn't engage in the infiltration process, which led to the extinction of myriad organic species through the Phase Six onslaught. Guys... this is textbook false equivalency, come on :lol: :lol:


AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Of course not, that is why they made him "Auto-Megatron". In the same respect as they didn't know how to "end" a four million year civil war of attrition, so you got faux peace instead.


Yeeeeeah... specious reasoning there. See above.


Cute but no :lol:

When you actually read between the lines of what's in print, your entire counterpoint is based on the premise that the Autobots were not just as equally entrenched in the same worlds as the Decepticons. Which is nonsense.

They were on these worlds together. The Autobots were never fighting to free these worlds, they were fighting the Decepticons on just another battlefield. Each trying to hamper the resources of the other. The inhabitants of each world were irrelevant to both sides, a means to an end.

Think back to their discussions on Phase Six, the Autobots were sketchy on the details, because by that point they had already written off that particular front and moved onto the next.

Again, this isn't me pulling out silly ideas out of thin air, this is based on the printed page. Interesting to read none the less, but you're wrong in your assumptions.


Your argument is becoming still more nebulous , I'm afraid. :lol:

At this point you're going to have to show me specific references. Which issue states or, ha, implies "between the lines", that Prime's Autobot army directly and intentionally committed genocide :lol:

If it helps you as a starting point, try addressing Rewind's rationale for killing Megatron in MTME 38. No arbitrary abstractions such as 'reading between lines' required ;)

Also, try not to refer to any unreliable narrators, even if there are such examples of the convention available to you. Instead, rationalise the actions in the comics depicted firsthand, such as in All Hail Megatron. Where is the Autobot equivalent?

Good luck!
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969334)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 7th, 2018 @ 1:40pm CDT
You're trying very hard to put the bots in a good light. Why do all alien races hate them and not just the cons?
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969383)
Posted by Quint on July 7th, 2018 @ 4:59pm CDT
The truth is, I haven't had to try very hard at all.

It's just a good-natured debate, anyway.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969448)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 8th, 2018 @ 7:13am CDT
Trying a bit too hard. Veering towards Fanboying, which being the lowest opinion of all, I generally refuse to engage with as it's pointless.

Anyway, There is nothing nebulous in what I'm referring to, you just have to have read it. It's a little thing called "The -Ations", it began with Infiltration and (technically) went on to Devastation. Read it, it's all there.
A relevant quote based on your limiting criteria would be the entire exchange between Megatron and Optimus Prime in Escalation. Also Drift's need to conceal his appearance from other races in his mini-series of a couple years ago (Empire of Stone). Literally any dialogue in which the Galactic Council is mentioned.
The Aequitas trials referred to in Last Stand of The Wreckers etc etc etc etc
We all know AHM was a (poor) reboot designed to bring IDWverse closer to a low-brow "easy to understand" Sunbow level. As such nothing within bears too much relevance to what came before or after.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969652)
Posted by Randomhero on July 9th, 2018 @ 11:06am CDT
Anyone think Banzaitron is gonna show up? He’s been off the grid for 10 years and he was obsessed with the magnificence and any kind of advanced tech
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969657)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 9th, 2018 @ 11:38am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Anyone think Banzaitron is gonna show up? He’s been off the grid for 10 years and he was obsessed with the magnificence and any kind of advanced tech


It would be interesting and a good call back, but I think much like Gigatron, we won't be seeing him again in this continuity.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969661)
Posted by Randomhero on July 9th, 2018 @ 11:52am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Anyone think Banzaitron is gonna show up? He’s been off the grid for 10 years and he was obsessed with the magnificence and any kind of advanced tech


It would be interesting and a good call back, but I think much like Gigatron, we won't be seeing him again in this continuity.


Well gigatron was just a giant nothingness. Banzaitron was actually a character. He ran the Decepticon secret intelligence and was all thought out the -ation series. I don’t know, I know there’s not a lot of time left but it would be nice to see him show back up in the final arc of lost light as being part of the the architects plans. I just reread spotlight hotrod and said “Oh wow that jerk never came back.”
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969662)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 9th, 2018 @ 11:57am CDT
That spotlight was one of the best and (alongside Spotlight Doubledealer) really gave Hot Rod a standout debut.

Banzaitron, Gigatron, Sixshot and Thunderwing all boarded The Revenge, helmed by Ramjet. Later, using Transwarp engines, they have escaped this reality into the next... ;)^
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969668)
Posted by Randomhero on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:06pm CDT
Except ramjet, thundering and sixshot are all confirmed dead.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969670)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:13pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Except ramjet, thundering and sixshot are all confirmed dead.



Image


...Sigh


Also, unless you have the printed panel with the demise of Thunderwing and Sixshot, they're not dead. It's just lazy writers who can't be bothered to use them.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969673)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:19pm CDT
At least ramjet got a fun confirmed death :-P

Do we have any good leads on who the architect is then?
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969677)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:23pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Do we have any good leads on who the architect is then?



Image

DUN, DUN, DUNNNN ;)
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969678)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:26pm CDT
You mock but it could be ;-)
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969680)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:28pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:You mock but it could be ;-)



As long as it isn't Shockwave, or Prime (Nemesis or any other) or Auto-Megatron, it can only be an improvement.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969682)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:33pm CDT
Won't be shockwave, nova prime :-? A stretch, megs, nah I think the architect was being seeded before he was even a bot.
Re: Preview for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #20 (1969684)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 9th, 2018 @ 12:35pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Won't be shockwave, nova prime :-? A stretch, megs, nah I think the architect was being seeded before he was even a bot.


So was Onyx Prime, no? ;)

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