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Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only)

Transformers News: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only)

Monday, February 27th, 2017 8:28PM CST

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We have some new info regarding the Transformers: The Last Knight toyline from TFW2005 regarding the case breakdown of each wave and the product SKUs. We also have some official images of one step Grimlock, Turbo Changer Megatron and the tiny Turbo Changers. All the product listings are still coe names but we will tell you who is in the wave for you to maybe piece it together. Let us know what you come up with.

All this info comes from the now taken down listings found on Southernhobby's website.

The case breakdown shows that no toy is shortpacked. All cases are evenly spread.

Transformers: The Last Knight Toyline Wave 1

Armor Up Turbo Changers* (SKU: HSBC0886AS00)

C1317AS00 TRA MV5 TURBO CHANGER JUPITER x 1
C1318AS00 TRA MV5 TURBO CHANGER MOON x 1
C1319AS00 TRA MV5 TURBO CHANGER SATURN x 1

This includes Optimus, Bumblebe and Megatron (pictured below)

1-Step Turbo Changers (SKU: HSBC0884AS00)

C1311AS00 TRA MV5 1 STEP GAS GIANT x 2
C1312AS00 TRA MV5 1 STEP FOUR MOONS x 2
C1313AS00 TRA MV5 1 STEP MARS x 2
C1314AS00 TRA MV5 1 STEP SUPERNOVA x 2

This includes Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Barricade, Hound

Tiny Turbo Changers (SKU: HSBC0882AS00)

C0882AS00 TRA MV5 TINY TURBO CHANGERS x 24

Deluxe Class (SKU: HSBC0887AS00)

C1320AS00 TRA MV5 PRE DLX GAS GIANT x 2
C1321AS00 TRA MV5 PRE DLX MARS x 2
C1322AS00 TRA MV5 PRE DLX GAMMA RAY x 2
C1323AS00 TRA MV5 PRE DLX SHOOTING STAR x 2

This includes Bumblebee, Barricade, Beserker and Slash

Legion Class (SKU: HSBC0889AS00)

C1326AS00 TRA MV5 LEGION FOUR MOONS x 2
C1327AS00 TRA MV5 LEGION GAS GIANT x 2
C1328AS00 TRA MV5 LEGION LUNAR ECLIPSE x 2
C1329AS00 TRA MV5 LEGION MARS x 2

This includes Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Grimlock, Barricade

Voyager Class (SKU: HSBC0891AS00)

C1333AS00 TRA MV5 PRE VOYAGER LUNAR ECLIPSE x 1
C1334AS00 TRA MV5 PRE VOYAGER JUPITER x 1

This includes Optimus Prime and Grimlock

We also have these listings from Takara which show that in their line, deluxe Barricade has the Mars codename.

Transformers News: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only)

It is unknown if the codenames for the Takara line line up with the Hasbro line and if the code name remains the same for the same character throughout all classes and toy lines. We know it is not the case with Optimus since he is both Four Moons and Jupiter (we assume). But if you assume that Mars for Takara is also Mars for Hasbro and that it is also Mars for the MPM line, then it could very well be that the MPM release we do not know about yet is Barricade. Let us know what you think.

Here are the latest official images:

Transformers News: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only)

Transformers News: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only)

Transformers News: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only)

Transformers News: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only)

Transformers News: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only)
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Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863365)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 27th, 2017 @ 10:10pm CST
Overcracker wrote:
Megatronformayor wrote:Ok so Megs was called Megatron in the first three movies and then he was called Galvatron in the fourth and now he's back to Megatron again.Is there a reason for this or is Micheal Bay that inconsistent. :-?


Technically Galvatron in Age of Extinction was not Megatron. He was engineered from the remains of Megatron, but was not supposed to be him.

Megatron's consciousness however re-emerged, and took over the new Galvatron body.

He was called Galvatron, because the humans that created him in the movie called him that. At the end of AOE Megatron's persona had completely returned and he was once again Megatron.

So there is an in story reason for why he was Galvatron, and is now again Megatron. Though how they will write away the Transformium from AOE, since he doesn't seem to be able to turn into a cloud of tiny cubes now, is yet to be seen. Or maybe I've missed that explanation somewhere.
He called himself "Galvatron" in the movie, though.

"I am Galvatron!"
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863370)
Posted by william-james88 on February 27th, 2017 @ 10:28pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:He called himself "Galvatron" in the movie, though.

"I am Galvatron!"

I always felt that was piss poor writing or the branding team trying way too hard. Why would he call himself what the humans call him, he hates them.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863373)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 27th, 2017 @ 10:33pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:He called himself "Galvatron" in the movie, though.

"I am Galvatron!"

I always felt that was piss poor writing or the branding team trying way too hard. Why would he call himself what the humans call him, he hates them.
Well, we're never actually told how the humans came up with the name. Suppose that Megatron secretly fed them the name behind the scenes, without their knowing of his influence in crafting the name. After all, Joshua wanted to make Galvatron look like Optimus, but why would he give an Optimus lookalike a name that is vaguely reminiscent of Megatron? ;)
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863374)
Posted by Kurona on February 27th, 2017 @ 10:35pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:He called himself "Galvatron" in the movie, though.

"I am Galvatron!"

I always felt that was piss poor writing or the branding team trying way too hard. Why would he call himself what the humans call him, he hates them.
Well, we're never actually told how the humans came up with the name. Suppose that Megatron secretly fed them the name behind the scenes, without their knowing of his influence in crafting the name. After all, Joshua wanted to make Galvatron look like Optimus, but why would he give an Optimus lookalike a name that is vaguely reminiscent of Megatron? ;)

... bad writing?
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863377)
Posted by Megatronformayor on February 27th, 2017 @ 10:42pm CST
Overcracker wrote:
Megatronformayor wrote:Ok so Megs was called Megatron in the first three movies and then he was called Galvatron in the fourth and now he's back to Megatron again.Is there a reason for this or is Micheal Bay that inconsistent. :-?


Technically Galvatron in Age of Extinction was not Megatron. He was engineered from the remains of Megatron, but was not supposed to be him.

Megatron's consciousness however re-emerged, and took over the new Galvatron body.

He was called Galvatron, because the humans that created him in the movie called him that. At the end of AOE Megatron's persona had completely returned and he was once again Megatron.

So there is an in story reason for why he was Galvatron, and is now again Megatron. Though how they will write away the Transformium from AOE, since he doesn't seem to be able to turn into a cloud of tiny cubes now, is yet to be seen. Or maybe I've missed that explanation somewhere.


Ok makes sense.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863400)
Posted by RAR on February 28th, 2017 @ 3:21am CST
UK store Smyths put a bunch of listings up for Movie toys :

(With the names and images)

http://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/sear ... profile=UK

It's strange how we saw Barricade so early when he's not in the 1st wave.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863407)
Posted by Va'al on February 28th, 2017 @ 5:02am CST
RAR wrote:UK store Smyths put a bunch of listings up for Movie toys :

(With the names and images)

http://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/sear ... profile=UK

It's strange how we saw Barricade so early when he's not in the 1st wave.


As I went to news this up, the images were taken down. Again. Huh.
Really not good with embargo dates, are we, online retailers..? :-$
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863410)
Posted by WreckerJack on February 28th, 2017 @ 5:10am CST
I clicked that link too and all I see are video games.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1863878)
Posted by Insurgent on March 2nd, 2017 @ 6:56am CST
I'm just waiting for the voyager Optimus. I don't know about Megatron, we'll have to see how he is later on. This might be the first voyager Megatron/Galvatron I've skipped since the first film.


And I too am dissapointed in Galvatron going back to Megatron. As a Galvatron fanboy, I was expecting him to change bodies, but at least keep the name for this trilogy. Please let him still be voiced by Frank Welker though.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864268)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 4th, 2017 @ 4:00pm CST
Argos has the voyagers listed for £32.99 each?
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6734349
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6735702
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6734909

and £24.99 for that crappy repaint Bee (and the other deluxes)? The good version only cost me £9.99 a couple years ago and included a lil generations G1 Bee as a bonus.
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6735575
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6734837
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6735939

What is 'Premier Edition' other than rip off prices?
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864313)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:58pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:What is 'Premier Edition' other than rip off prices?
It just refers to the normal, non-simplistic toys of the line.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864367)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 5th, 2017 @ 2:29am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:What is 'Premier Edition' other than rip off prices?
It just refers to the normal, non-simplistic toys of the line.


So it's like when AoE used 'Generations'?

WHY ARE THESE TOYS SO EXPENSIVE?
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864368)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 5th, 2017 @ 2:37am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:What is 'Premier Edition' other than rip off prices?
It just refers to the normal, non-simplistic toys of the line.


So it's like when AoE used 'Generations'?

WHY ARE THESE TOYS SO EXPENSIVE?


Economics, you're paying more for the packaging, especially since the Deluxe Class figures come in boxes too instead of on cards.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864369)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 5th, 2017 @ 2:40am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:What is 'Premier Edition' other than rip off prices?
It just refers to the normal, non-simplistic toys of the line.


So it's like when AoE used 'Generations'?

WHY ARE THESE TOYS SO EXPENSIVE?


Economics, you're paying more for the packaging, especially since the Deluxe Class figures come in boxes too instead of on cards.



Can I blame it on brexit and go punch someone to make me feel a lil better?
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864370)
Posted by King Kuuga on March 5th, 2017 @ 2:51am CST
I highly suspect these will get a rapid price drop shortly into their release like all the other movie lines. They start high and then go back to "normal" prices as a "sale".
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864389)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 5th, 2017 @ 6:17am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:What is 'Premier Edition' other than rip off prices?
It just refers to the normal, non-simplistic toys of the line.


So it's like when AoE used 'Generations'?

WHY ARE THESE TOYS SO EXPENSIVE?


Economics, you're paying more for the packaging, especially since the Deluxe Class figures come in boxes too instead of on cards.



Can I blame it on brexit and go punch someone to make me feel a lil better?

No, you can blame it on Hasbro and their endless quest for higher and higher profit margins- which means less product for more money.

Seriously, at this rate 3P stuff isn't just going to be better than HasTak, it'll be cheaper too.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864391)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2017 @ 6:17am CST
UK store Argos has new fully detailed listings for toys from the Transformers: The Last Knight Toyline. What is great for us is that these listings all come with official images of the toys themselves rather than 3-d renders so you can have a better idea at what the finished product looks like, especially with toys like Voyager Megatron. Below you will find the listings along with links and how much Argos is charging for these toys along with the new images we now have.

Transformers: The Last Knight Armour Turbo Changer Grimlock £24.99

Transformers: The Last Knight 1-Step Turbo Changer Optimus Prime £13.99
Transformers: The Last Knight 1-Step Turbo Changer Bumblebee £13.99
Transformers: The Last Knight 1-Step Turbo Changer Megatron £13.99

Tiny Turbo Changers Bling Bags: Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Knight Strike Bumblebee, Sideswipe, Crosshairs, Autobot Hound, Grimlock, Shadow Armor Grimlock, Starscream, Soundwave, Decepticon Blackout, Lockdown £2.99 each


Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Deluxe Class Sqweeks £24.99
Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Deluxe Class Autobot Drift £24.99

Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Voyager Class Optimus Prime £32.99
Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Voyager Class Grimlock £32.99
Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Voyager Class Megatron £32.99


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Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864394)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 5th, 2017 @ 6:21am CST
A shame the prices will be so obscene because that Megatron looks sooooo good. And am I the only one that wants that Optimus Prime done up as Destructicon Scourge?
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864396)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 5th, 2017 @ 6:25am CST
King Kuuga wrote:I highly suspect these will get a rapid price drop shortly into their release like all the other movie lines. They start high and then go back to "normal" prices as a "sale".



Hope so. These are 'my' TF toys and at these prices I won't be able to afford them. :(
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864398)
Posted by Kurona on March 5th, 2017 @ 6:26am CST
Oh my god Turbo Grimlock's helmet thing is bloody hilarious; I love that.

Anyway these prices are fucking stupid.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864404)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2017 @ 7:35am CST
Some early pictureless listings have appeared on Amazon Spain for new Transformers: The Last Knight toys that were previously unknown. So far, there has only been confirmation of 3 waves of Transformers: The Last Knight toys and one voyager was left to be revealed. People thought it could be Onslaught or another new character, but it is now confirmed to be a Voyager Bumblebee.

Also, there is a listing for a new Leader figure: Dragonstorm (which is called Leader Dragon in the listing). This is great news since so far we only had him as a giant One Step and a tiny Legion toy.

There are other new listings as well, all can be found below:

Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Class Bumblebee
Transformers: The Last Knight Leader Class Dragonstorm
Transformers: The Last Knight 1-Step Turbo Changer Sqweeks
Transformers: The Last Knight Armor Up Turbo Changer Hound
Transformers: The Last Knight Armor Up Turbo Changer Bumblebee
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864413)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2017 @ 8:32am CST
Is that Turbo Changer Grimlock wearing a crown?!! :shock:
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864414)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 5th, 2017 @ 8:33am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Is that Turbo Changer Grimlock wearing a crown?!! :shock:



That's King Grimlock to you, peasant. :P
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864416)
Posted by breacher on March 5th, 2017 @ 8:50am CST
Anyone else find it sad that the turbocharger grimlock looks more convincing than the voyager? The alt mode looks so much better, heck, even the robot mode looks awesome.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864417)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 5th, 2017 @ 8:52am CST
breacher wrote:Anyone else find it sad that the turbocharger grimlock looks more convincing than the voyager? The alt mode looks so much better, heck, even the robot mode looks awesome.


Um are you looking at them the right way round? The voyager is great and the turbo charger is simplified and a bit out of proportion.

At least the dino arms on the turbo charger look more secure though i suppose.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864419)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2017 @ 8:57am CST
Wait, Voyager Bumblebee? :shock:

Unless he's got a new non-car altmode, this could be the first time we've ever gotten a normal-looking non-truck/non-buggy car Transformer in the proper Voyager class of a regular multi-size class toyline (Alternators and MP are not normal lines, Human Alliance was a separate size class from Voyager, and Cybertron Crumplezone and Thirlling 30 Springer were sci-fi cars).
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864420)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 5th, 2017 @ 9:06am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Wait, Voyager Bumblebee? :shock:

Unless he's got a new non-car altmode, this could be the first time we've ever gotten a normal-looking non-truck/non-buggy car Transformer in the proper Voyager class of a regular multi-size class toyline (Alternators and MP are not normal lines, Human Alliance was a separate size class from Voyager, and Cybertron Crumplezone and Thirlling 30 Springer were sci-fi cars).



I kinda hope it isn't a car though not sure what else it could possibly be. For my tastes Deluxe is the right size for the cars since they scale well with the majority and since cars are so used so much in the entire franchise it's best they're in the easily affordable range. I did like the HA line but in the end I sold them all off cos I just found them too big and awkward to go with much else.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864421)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on March 5th, 2017 @ 9:11am CST
:shock: VOYAGER Bumblebee?! Bee's never gotten a voyager before, so I'm very intrigued to see what this one will look like. Perhaps this one will include the hammer?

(I really wish they had a spit take emoji because I totally would've used it just then)
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864426)
Posted by RAR on March 5th, 2017 @ 10:19am CST
The Lost age (voaygerish size) Optimus (the one with a trailer) has a nicer looking truck mode than the new voyager does - I think the Takara one might be slightly (very slightly) better coloured too.

I'm not bothered by the prices as ARGOS often has "Half Price Sales" so the stupid prices won't catch out only the desperate.

They usually have a Half Price sale in November for example and possibly other times. so that would put a Voyager down to £17.50

I wouldn't be surprised if Smyths, Very and even TRU will be cheaper and The Entertainer flip flops from expensive to dirt cheap too.

But yes £23.00 for a reissued Bumblebee in a different shade of yellow that TRU couldn't hardly give away even when it came with a free Generations Bumblebee is sort of delusionally amusing.

Especially if these end up sharing shelves with other DISCOUNTED Transformers - I know i'd rather have an RID Blurr for £8.99 than a Reissued Slash (in baby blue) for £23.00 when I could buy a Titans Return Voyager for that and have several pounds change.

I do kinda like the new Hound though... which is odd as I never even bothered to buy the previous one at all.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864430)
Posted by Insurgent on March 5th, 2017 @ 10:40am CST
RAR wrote:The Lost age (voaygerish size) Optimus (the one with a trailer) has a nicer looking truck mode than the new voyager does - I think the Takara one might be slightly (very slightly) better coloured too.



To be fair, that was a massive shellformer. The entire front of the cab is a solid piece that just flipped over to be a giant solid backpack (reason I didn't get it). And I believe the legs are also fused together, though I may be wrong on that one.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864431)
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 5th, 2017 @ 10:51am CST
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Flip that helmet up and you got a decent tail club/thagomizer.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864440)
Posted by First Gen on March 5th, 2017 @ 11:45am CST
Really digging Starsc..... Megatron.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864443)
Posted by Cobotron on March 5th, 2017 @ 11:47am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Is that Turbo Changer Grimlock wearing a crown?!! :shock:
No. I think it's a chicken! :shock:
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864445)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2017 @ 11:53am CST
RAR wrote:The Lost age (voaygerish size) Optimus (the one with a trailer) has a nicer looking truck mode than the new voyager does - I think the Takara one might be slightly (very slightly) better coloured too.

So what, it has a garbage robot mode with crap articulation.

I mean if the robot mode doesnt count for anything and we are only looking at the truck mode, then this one has all the rest beat.

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Anyways, RAR, can you please show me what the slight colour changes are between the hasbro and takara voyager First Edition Prime? Because no one has found any yet. If there is an actual change you can spot, show it to us and we can news it.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864451)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:15pm CST
breacher wrote:Anyone else find it sad that the turbocharger grimlock looks more convincing than the voyager? The alt mode looks so much better.

You sure you didnt miss the giant green tumour it has growing on the tip of its tail?

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Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864452)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:17pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
breacher wrote:Anyone else find it sad that the turbocharger grimlock looks more convincing than the voyager? The alt mode looks so much better.

You sure you didnt miss the giant green tumour it has growing on the tip of its tail?
Grimlock doesn't like to talk about that, okay? He's sensitive about it.

:o)
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864455)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:20pm CST
Man, is it just me, or did has/tak really nail each version of megs (both voyager and leader) they both look equally great on their own merit, and I really wouldn't mind double-dipping (especially as all the other offerings look fairly paltry)
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864469)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:50pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, is it just me, or did has/tak really nail each version of megs (both voyager and leader) they both look equally great on their own merit, and I really wouldn't mind double-dipping (especially as all the other offerings look fairly paltry)

Na, that voyager looks less and less great. He's pretty much a robot under a jet, you can even see his feet right under his wings. It ends up having a similar transformation (for the legs) to Prime Megatron. Also, unlike the Leader, the weings fold up around his legs in robot mode so you also get some random wing parts there instead of a uniform robot mode. He's also more kibbly in robot mode than I would have thought, with those pieces of kibble dangling at his waist.
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I think I will still get him but he is definitely losing some of that magic I first saw.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864471)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2017 @ 1:00pm CST
Oh man, that Optimus facing up against that Megatron is just bad comedY:

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Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864472)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 5th, 2017 @ 1:00pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, is it just me, or did has/tak really nail each version of megs (both voyager and leader) they both look equally great on their own merit, and I really wouldn't mind double-dipping (especially as all the other offerings look fairly paltry)

Na, that voyager looks less and less great. He's pretty much a robot under a jet, you can even see his feet right under his wings. It ends up having a similar transformation (for the legs) to Prime Megatron. Also, unlike the Leader, the weings fold up around his legs in robot mode so you also get some random wing parts there instead of a uniform robot mode. He's also more kibbly in robot mode than I would have thought, with those pieces of kibble dangling at his waist.

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I think I will still get him but he is definitely losing some of that magic I first saw.

You used the same pic twice, and for what they are (two different size classes adhering to different parts counts and budgets) it's pretty great that they are both independently good enough to be satisfying.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864479)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2017 @ 1:18pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:You used the same pic twice, and for what they are (two different size classes adhering to different parts counts and budgets) it's pretty great that they are both independently good enough to be satisfying.

Thanks fixed! And yes I do agree on that, its cool to have options in different size classes for this cool new design.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864498)
Posted by RAR on March 5th, 2017 @ 3:00pm CST
Insurgent wrote:
To be fair, that was a massive shellformer. The entire front of the cab is a solid piece that just flipped over to be a giant solid backpack (reason I didn't get it). And I believe the legs are also fused together, though I may be wrong on that one.


It's the sleeper cab sides and roof that flip over on to the back the cab forms the back of the legs. He's arms and legs are full articulated the kibble is kinda terrible - but he's full of electronics so that is the excuse and frankly with the wing pack on you don't hardly notice it at all. He's really pretty in truck mode though.

The Transformation is forgivable since he's essentially a giant one-step changer playset. It is interesting to note that he comes with a couple of cade's rifle/sword sized for deluxes/voyager/onesteps.

I wouldn't expect anyone who didn't like onesteps to get excited by him. But I will defend him enough to say he's a whole lot nicer than the slam and change Optimus. He's also got a more accurate chest design than the earlier AOE Optimus toys too - he's basically got the same changes Takara's leader remould had.

Oh and yes if you want to gush about truck modes there are a few nice examples depending on tastes - I actually like the silver Knight one myself - but the one that comes with sideswipe is nice too. as is one of the repaint leaders - my fav is Takara's remould though - but there is that new version of that to consider - but I've not follow that one much so I barely know what it looks like in detail.

It's not a mould I like so much I'd want to rush to go completist on it.

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For anyone feeling like playing spot the difference here is the Japanese version of Voyager Optimus :

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Also Is that Leader Optimus (slight repaint facing up to Leader Megs) a wide release toy ?
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864511)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2017 @ 3:40pm CST
I am sure they are the same toy. Hasbro's official pic seems to come from the same photosession as Takara's

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6734349#
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864529)
Posted by No One on March 5th, 2017 @ 6:14pm CST
Once again Megatron doesn't actually turn into anything, so that robot mode under the wings is twice as lazy. For crying out loud at least make him a Global Hawk or something based in real life. I like the new voyager Prime though.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864536)
Posted by RAR on March 5th, 2017 @ 6:55pm CST
a sci fi alt mode isn't a valid excuse to not make a proper transformation..
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864538)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 5th, 2017 @ 7:03pm CST
RAR wrote:a sci fi alt mode isn't a valid excuse to not make a proper transformation..


It looks on par with his first movie form, really. He certainly could have done worse:

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Transformers Revenge of the Fallen The Fallen Gallery
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864544)
Posted by Overcracker on March 5th, 2017 @ 7:31pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RAR wrote:a sci fi alt mode isn't a valid excuse to not make a proper transformation..


It looks on par with his first movie form, really. He certainly could have done worse:

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Transformers Revenge of the Fallen The Fallen Gallery


I respectfully disagree. This Megatron is leagues better than his first movie jet mode. At least this looks like a jet. Not an earth one mind you, but he looks somewhat aerodynamic. which his previous flying vehicle modes really lacked.

and yes, he would have done much much worse.

Megatron hasn't had the best track record with flying vehicle modes.

At least the leader class Megatron seems to be a better representation of the on screen model, and looks pretty cool in my opinion.

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Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864561)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2017 @ 10:11pm CST
Megatron's altmode looks like it could fit right alongside the kinds of altmodes seen in the Unicron Trilogy, and I don't recall anyone complaining about those toys' altmodes not being Earthen enough, especially when it came to the likes of the Cybertron line's Speed Planet or Planet X toys.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864563)
Posted by No One on March 5th, 2017 @ 10:28pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Megatron's altmode looks like it could fit right alongside the kinds of altmodes seen in the Unicron Trilogy, and I don't recall anyone complaining about those toys' altmodes not being Earthen enough, especially when it came to the likes of the Cybertron line's Speed Planet or Planet X toys.


This isn't the Unicron Trilogy, those bots were not on Earth.
Re: Product SKU and Case Breakdown for Transformers The Last Knight Toy Line Wave 1 (code names only) (1864566)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2017 @ 10:38pm CST
MR Optimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Megatron's altmode looks like it could fit right alongside the kinds of altmodes seen in the Unicron Trilogy, and I don't recall anyone complaining about those toys' altmodes not being Earthen enough, especially when it came to the likes of the Cybertron line's Speed Planet or Planet X toys.


This isn't the Unicron Trilogy, those bots were not on Earth.
Yes they were. Override, Ransack, Crumplezone, Sideways, all went to Earth without changing their altmodes.

Why, even Megatron, Starscream, and Vector Prime all kept their Cybertronian altmodes on Earth.

Even Optimus Prime's supposedly Earthen altmode looked like no actual fire truck of real life. It could even turn into a flying fire truck and those certainly don't exist in the real world.

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