Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide"
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iGear has posted more images of the upcoming PP-05 Not Ironhide with some shots on the size comparison, accessories as well different head sculpts.
According to iGear, Not Ironhide is expected to be released in the 4th quarter of 2011. No price has been announced yet, however more information is expected at BotCon 2011.
You can view the original thread for more photos by clicking any of the images above.
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According to iGear, Not Ironhide is expected to be released in the 4th quarter of 2011. No price has been announced yet, however more information is expected at BotCon 2011.
You can view the original thread for more photos by clicking any of the images above.
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Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232303)
Posted by --B-- on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:48am CDT
Posted by --B-- on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:48am CDT
I think I like the angry face more than the yelling face. Could this perhaps have multiple face plates, that would rock!
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232304)
Posted by gothsaurus on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:48am CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:48am CDT
Wow. I wonder who all those extra heads belong to. ??? Glad they've included different heads for Ironhide... the really angry one was a little too much.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232305)
Posted by alexison on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:52am CDT
A few of the blurry ones are Ratchet it looks like. I can't tell on the furthest left though.
Posted by alexison on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:52am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Wow. I wonder who all those extra heads belong to. ??? Glad they've included different heads for Ironhide... the really angry one was a little too much.
A few of the blurry ones are Ratchet it looks like. I can't tell on the furthest left though.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232306)
Posted by GetRightRobot on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:54am CDT
Posted by GetRightRobot on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:54am CDT
I might be alone on this, but I like the calm Ironhide face. It feels more genuine. Ironhide was a warrior no question, but i like my autobots a little more civilized and...well...less war-monger-y. 
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232307)
Posted by kirbenvost on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:54am CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:54am CDT
Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products? 
Anyway, he is bigger than expected, but he looks good. I suppose they're assuming you have their Faith Leader as your Classics Prime, and they look pretty good next to each other. Too bad I just know I won't be able to afford these, but I already have the Universe versions.
Anyway, he is bigger than expected, but he looks good. I suppose they're assuming you have their Faith Leader as your Classics Prime, and they look pretty good next to each other. Too bad I just know I won't be able to afford these, but I already have the Universe versions.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232315)
Posted by It Is Him on June 2nd, 2011 @ 11:07am CDT
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
Posted by It Is Him on June 2nd, 2011 @ 11:07am CDT
kirbenvost wrote:Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products?
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232319)
Posted by It Is Him on June 2nd, 2011 @ 11:15am CDT
Posted by It Is Him on June 2nd, 2011 @ 11:15am CDT
Also, the proportions are weird, Ironhide is WAY too tall, and iGear sucks. No sale!
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232330)
Posted by alexison on June 2nd, 2011 @ 11:31am CDT
Posted by alexison on June 2nd, 2011 @ 11:31am CDT
I wonder what the odds are all the weapons store somewhere on his body like they did in the mini-series? That would be pretty cool.
Also, I wonder if iGear has an Alpha Trion in mind?..
Also, I wonder if iGear has an Alpha Trion in mind?..
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232361)
Posted by kirbenvost on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:18pm CDT
That is my fondest wish, alas, it seems we can only dream of such a world.
Posted by kirbenvost on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:18pm CDT
It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products?
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
That is my fondest wish, alas, it seems we can only dream of such a world.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232365)
Posted by It Is Him on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:20pm CDT
In another thread I suggested making CHUG a banned word on the boards, much like a few other four letter words. Maybe I should start a thread petitioning for it?
Posted by It Is Him on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:20pm CDT
kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products?
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
That is my fondest wish, alas, it seems we can only dream of such a world.
In another thread I suggested making CHUG a banned word on the boards, much like a few other four letter words. Maybe I should start a thread petitioning for it?
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232366)
Posted by Requiem Prime on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:24pm CDT
Posted by Requiem Prime on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:24pm CDT
Wow, info dump. I'm so sold. Even at iGear's usual PP prices (well, maybe just Ironhide if it's too high) If the pair pummel my wallet less severely than MP-10 all will be right in my world.
I am on board with ditching the NOT prefix because that's who they're supposed to be. If they have an "official" name or id number then that's fine too.
And why are we still getting blatant "iGear sucks" posts?
PP-series & MP trailer: Yes, iGear made KOs of HasTak and/or fan designs, but look at their things compared to what usually comes out of china's moral cesspool. iGear not only attaches their name to their work, they aim for a quality that brings KOs as close to dignity as they're going to come.
Kup/MP heads: These are add-ons. CHEAP add-ons. Anyone who remotely likes half of the stuff Fansproject and all the others put out needs to sit down and shut the hell up. Also, did anyone notice that the Kup upgrade so happened to be announced BEFORE the toys were freely available? In the world of 3rd party anything, that's damn near holy work.
Arcee/Nightbird: Not actually made by them, so I can't press them for issues I have with it. I actually wish the ninja came first because the robot mode was fine and one that didn't have to transform too would have broken the ice a lot better.
In my book, iGear's only sin they haven't redeemed in some way is pricing, but their freedom to charge what they want is a fundamental part of being a third party. And except for the jets, they haven't strayed as far into crazy as you might think for 3rd party stuff.
I am on board with ditching the NOT prefix because that's who they're supposed to be. If they have an "official" name or id number then that's fine too.
And why are we still getting blatant "iGear sucks" posts?
PP-series & MP trailer: Yes, iGear made KOs of HasTak and/or fan designs, but look at their things compared to what usually comes out of china's moral cesspool. iGear not only attaches their name to their work, they aim for a quality that brings KOs as close to dignity as they're going to come.
Kup/MP heads: These are add-ons. CHEAP add-ons. Anyone who remotely likes half of the stuff Fansproject and all the others put out needs to sit down and shut the hell up. Also, did anyone notice that the Kup upgrade so happened to be announced BEFORE the toys were freely available? In the world of 3rd party anything, that's damn near holy work.
Arcee/Nightbird: Not actually made by them, so I can't press them for issues I have with it. I actually wish the ninja came first because the robot mode was fine and one that didn't have to transform too would have broken the ice a lot better.
In my book, iGear's only sin they haven't redeemed in some way is pricing, but their freedom to charge what they want is a fundamental part of being a third party. And except for the jets, they haven't strayed as far into crazy as you might think for 3rd party stuff.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232374)
Posted by It Is Him on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:29pm CDT
You just answered your own question.
Posted by It Is Him on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:29pm CDT
Requiem Prime wrote:And why are we still getting blatant "iGear sucks" posts?
PP-series & MP trailer: Yes, iGear made KOs of HasTak and/or fan designs
You just answered your own question.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232376)
Posted by rpetras on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:33pm CDT
Their jets are not really that bad, price wise.
When you think what you pay from BBTS or one of those guys for an actual Takara MP jet.
And the last MP jet was several years ago, so the closest comparison is MP Grimlock, I guess, and he went for around $150.
I'm loving these though, and the more I see the more I like them.
I have no issue with them being closer to voyager sized, either.
Posted by rpetras on June 2nd, 2011 @ 12:33pm CDT
Requiem Prime wrote: except for the jets, they haven't strayed as far into crazy as you might think for 3rd party stuff.
Their jets are not really that bad, price wise.
When you think what you pay from BBTS or one of those guys for an actual Takara MP jet.
And the last MP jet was several years ago, so the closest comparison is MP Grimlock, I guess, and he went for around $150.
I'm loving these though, and the more I see the more I like them.
I have no issue with them being closer to voyager sized, either.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232390)
Posted by craggy on June 2nd, 2011 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by craggy on June 2nd, 2011 @ 1:09pm CDT
looking good yessireebob.
as wasted as the potential of a VW Bumblebee was, I'd love iGear (or anyone, really) to combing the MP KO and reshelling concepts, and make a deluxe-sized-ish simplified Sharkticon or 5.
as wasted as the potential of a VW Bumblebee was, I'd love iGear (or anyone, really) to combing the MP KO and reshelling concepts, and make a deluxe-sized-ish simplified Sharkticon or 5.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232393)
Posted by Sodan-1 on June 2nd, 2011 @ 1:18pm CDT
Posted by Sodan-1 on June 2nd, 2011 @ 1:18pm CDT
Wow. Mixed feelings doesn't even come close. I think I have split personality syndrome over this one.
The variety of the head sculpts is great (very interested to find out who the two or three on the left are) and the selection of weapons and accessories is truely awesome. Robot mode still looks brilliant. Vehicle mode still looks bland. Just wish clear plastic windows were included.
I think iGear have done a great job with the size. It wouldn't look too out of place with either the Masterpiece series or the Classics. No idea whether I want these. However, I now have extremely high anticipation for iGear Impactor.
The variety of the head sculpts is great (very interested to find out who the two or three on the left are) and the selection of weapons and accessories is truely awesome. Robot mode still looks brilliant. Vehicle mode still looks bland. Just wish clear plastic windows were included.
I think iGear have done a great job with the size. It wouldn't look too out of place with either the Masterpiece series or the Classics. No idea whether I want these. However, I now have extremely high anticipation for iGear Impactor.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232399)
Posted by DMSL on June 2nd, 2011 @ 1:30pm CDT
Posted by DMSL on June 2nd, 2011 @ 1:30pm CDT
Superb looks like they are in scale with Classics figs.
If the end product will look as good as the proto shots then i will definately get a set.
If the end product will look as good as the proto shots then i will definately get a set.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232414)
Posted by Oilspill on June 2nd, 2011 @ 1:56pm CDT
Posted by Oilspill on June 2nd, 2011 @ 1:56pm CDT
Hmm.. they look really good. Arcee was too expensive for me, if these guys are cheaper I may be tempted. Ironhide is one of my favourite bots.
Glad iGear are putting out some more products that aren't ripping off other peoples work, even if they are just distributing them for someone else.
Glad iGear are putting out some more products that aren't ripping off other peoples work, even if they are just distributing them for someone else.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232423)
Posted by Blackstreak on June 2nd, 2011 @ 2:14pm CDT
Posted by Blackstreak on June 2nd, 2011 @ 2:14pm CDT
I was not expecting them to be Classics sized. I thought these were gonna be Masterpiece. I may have to put some money down on these instead of the actual Classics figures.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232446)
Posted by Primacron's Little Helper on June 2nd, 2011 @ 3:06pm CDT
Yeah, but people from Fansprojects, Headrobots and Perfect Effect don't go on to Transformers websites and call a fairly large proportion of the people "little bitches".
I've never heard of anyone from Hasbro complain about this.
I'm a fan and they sell lots of things I want.
That said, this looks pretty good. I'm impressed with what iGear are doing. It's not for me though.
Posted by Primacron's Little Helper on June 2nd, 2011 @ 3:06pm CDT
ae_productions wrote:There is a lot of internet "bandwaggon" hate. See, little boys have nothing else better to do than complain, and since they can hide behind their computer screen, and there is no one to put them in their place, they cry on the internet like a little girl. The other reason why we see a lot of this on the internet (you can see it no matter what fandom, no matter what forum), is that people's lives are so pointless and shallow, that complaining about something makes them feel important. Makes them feel more of a man, I guess. But yes, there is a lot of bandwaggon hate for iGear. Just ignore the little bitches.
Same people who cry IP infringement on iGear also love and collect Fansprojects, headrobots, Perfect Effect and others. Total hypocrites.
Yeah, but people from Fansprojects, Headrobots and Perfect Effect don't go on to Transformers websites and call a fairly large proportion of the people "little bitches".
ae_productions wrote:Bottom line is this. Hasbro complains how they loose money.
I've never heard of anyone from Hasbro complain about this.
ae_productions wrote:Yet, they make no effort to sell product fans want.
I'm a fan and they sell lots of things I want.
That said, this looks pretty good. I'm impressed with what iGear are doing. It's not for me though.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232453)
Posted by kirbenvost on June 2nd, 2011 @ 3:24pm CDT
I'd sign it.
Posted by kirbenvost on June 2nd, 2011 @ 3:24pm CDT
It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products?
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
That is my fondest wish, alas, it seems we can only dream of such a world.
In another thread I suggested making CHUG a banned word on the boards, much like a few other four letter words. Maybe I should start a thread petitioning for it?
I'd sign it.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232460)
Posted by ae_productions on June 2nd, 2011 @ 3:31pm CDT
Posted by ae_productions on June 2nd, 2011 @ 3:31pm CDT
Yeah, but people from Fansprojects, Headrobots and Perfect Effect don't go on to Transformers websites and call a fairly large proportion of the people "little bitches".
You are assuming I work for iGear. I do not. They have no affiliation with me, nor me to them.
Igear has not slandered any of the fans. That was all me. I did.
And yes, it is true. Fans are little bitches. Take a stroll through this topic alone.
I've never heard of anyone from Hasbro complain about this.
Then you have not bothered to read any of Hasbro's quarterly statements nor their comments about the classics line.
I'm a fan and they sell lots of things I want.
Hasbro makes lot of toys I want too. These toys are filler between movie toys. Recently, Hasbro made a phenomenal Classics 3.0 line. But good luck finding any of them. Most fans were in the same boat about the poor distribution. Instead of selling these on their websites to make them available to fans, Hasbro chose to ship them overseas to make extra $$ because of the weak US Dollar. This is a business, and that was a business choice, but they then turned around and complained about not making money and taking huge quarterly losses. They also keep noting that Classics toys do not sell well. The toys were made, and are sitting in warehouses. Why not make them available to fans, cut out the middle man (TRU, Walmart, KMart, ect), make some extra $ and make the fans happy? To add insult to injury, there were several of the highly sought after toys that did NOT get USA distribution (Frenzy, Rumble, Windcharger.)
If history follows suit pertaining to the original TFTM and ROTF toy lines, we are in a long 2 - 3 year drought of nothing but movie toys. That's great news for movie enthusiasts. However, if you collect other lines, you will probably be screwed for a while. Which is why it's nice that companies like iGear, Fansproject, Perfect Effect, TFC, head robots and others are picking up the ball and keeping the fandom in play.
And yes, I agree with you. The iGear Ironhide and Ratchet are phenomenal toys. At least we see eye to eye on something.
You are assuming I work for iGear. I do not. They have no affiliation with me, nor me to them.
Igear has not slandered any of the fans. That was all me. I did.
And yes, it is true. Fans are little bitches. Take a stroll through this topic alone.
ae_productions wrote:Hasbro complains how they loose money.
I've never heard of anyone from Hasbro complain about this.
Then you have not bothered to read any of Hasbro's quarterly statements nor their comments about the classics line.
ae_productions wrote:Yet, they make no effort to sell product fans want.
I'm a fan and they sell lots of things I want.
Hasbro makes lot of toys I want too. These toys are filler between movie toys. Recently, Hasbro made a phenomenal Classics 3.0 line. But good luck finding any of them. Most fans were in the same boat about the poor distribution. Instead of selling these on their websites to make them available to fans, Hasbro chose to ship them overseas to make extra $$ because of the weak US Dollar. This is a business, and that was a business choice, but they then turned around and complained about not making money and taking huge quarterly losses. They also keep noting that Classics toys do not sell well. The toys were made, and are sitting in warehouses. Why not make them available to fans, cut out the middle man (TRU, Walmart, KMart, ect), make some extra $ and make the fans happy? To add insult to injury, there were several of the highly sought after toys that did NOT get USA distribution (Frenzy, Rumble, Windcharger.)
If history follows suit pertaining to the original TFTM and ROTF toy lines, we are in a long 2 - 3 year drought of nothing but movie toys. That's great news for movie enthusiasts. However, if you collect other lines, you will probably be screwed for a while. Which is why it's nice that companies like iGear, Fansproject, Perfect Effect, TFC, head robots and others are picking up the ball and keeping the fandom in play.
And yes, I agree with you. The iGear Ironhide and Ratchet are phenomenal toys. At least we see eye to eye on something.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232467)
Posted by ae_productions on June 2nd, 2011 @ 3:38pm CDT
Seconded.
Posted by ae_productions on June 2nd, 2011 @ 3:38pm CDT
kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products?
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
That is my fondest wish, alas, it seems we can only dream of such a world.
In another thread I suggested making CHUG a banned word on the boards, much like a few other four letter words. Maybe I should start a thread petitioning for it?
I'd sign it.
Seconded.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232506)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on June 2nd, 2011 @ 4:51pm CDT
Posted by MINDVVIPE on June 2nd, 2011 @ 4:51pm CDT
The Optimus in my collection is the WFC Optimus... not a prime, and shorter than quite a few fellow autobots, but I don't mind if Ironhide is bigger, Optimus then takes on the role of a wise commander, with skills that don't necessarily require mass, leaving Ironhide to look like one tough badass SOB compared to the rest. Fitting.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232513)
Posted by Hal7300 on June 2nd, 2011 @ 5:28pm CDT
Me three.
Posted by Hal7300 on June 2nd, 2011 @ 5:28pm CDT
ae_productions wrote:kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products?
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
That is my fondest wish, alas, it seems we can only dream of such a world.
In another thread I suggested making CHUG a banned word on the boards, much like a few other four letter words. Maybe I should start a thread petitioning for it?
I'd sign it.
Seconded.
Me three.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232517)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on June 2nd, 2011 @ 5:38pm CDT
United and Reveal the Shield have necessitated it being extended to CHUGUR anyway.
For that matter, I've never met anyone who actually likes the term "Seeker", and I don't like it either, but wherever there's a niche in the language that needs filling, slag happens. Even if we all agreed to say "Classics", we're technically referring to TWO dead TF sub-lines.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on June 2nd, 2011 @ 5:38pm CDT
Hal7300 wrote:ae_productions wrote:kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products?
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
That is my fondest wish, alas, it seems we can only dream of such a world.
In another thread I suggested making CHUG a banned word on the boards, much like a few other four letter words. Maybe I should start a thread petitioning for it?
I'd sign it.
Seconded.
Me three.
United and Reveal the Shield have necessitated it being extended to CHUGUR anyway.
For that matter, I've never met anyone who actually likes the term "Seeker", and I don't like it either, but wherever there's a niche in the language that needs filling, slag happens. Even if we all agreed to say "Classics", we're technically referring to TWO dead TF sub-lines.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232522)
Posted by craggy on June 2nd, 2011 @ 5:41pm CDT
Posted by craggy on June 2nd, 2011 @ 5:41pm CDT
did someone say Chugger?
"I just need a moment or two of your time...to help save the baby Nebulons..."
"I just need a moment or two of your time...to help save the baby Nebulons..."
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232525)
Posted by metaphorge on June 2nd, 2011 @ 5:47pm CDT
Posted by metaphorge on June 2nd, 2011 @ 5:47pm CDT
Sold. Ironride is a little big next to classics Prime, but will look fantastic with either Faith Leader or MP-10, and with the rest of the G1-Redux figures (though I'd like to see some vehicle-mode size comparisons as well).
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232538)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on June 2nd, 2011 @ 6:00pm CDT
Posted by Cyber Bishop on June 2nd, 2011 @ 6:00pm CDT
Nice.. I wonder what kind of price tag these will have on them..
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232558)
Posted by dragons on June 2nd, 2011 @ 6:13pm CDT
Posted by dragons on June 2nd, 2011 @ 6:13pm CDT
wow if they are 80.00 each ill buy them for sure i dont classics but henkie ironhide i do only for paintjob but voyager size seems to be fair for classics series the both of characters seem right to be right in voyager class seems right to me for the 2 of them.
my big concern is where do all weapons go feels like gijoe figure with all weapons but no where to put them all on figure itself but buy for me if price is right
my big concern is where do all weapons go feels like gijoe figure with all weapons but no where to put them all on figure itself but buy for me if price is right
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232601)
Posted by bvzxa on June 2nd, 2011 @ 7:28pm CDT
Posted by bvzxa on June 2nd, 2011 @ 7:28pm CDT
Well, looks like the 3rp party companies know when to strike with the product. Good very good.
I'm not going to diss Hasbro but why couldn't they have done this for the Universe versions.
While I love me Henkei Ironhide and ratchet, what always concerned me is that they transform so backwards, and the head thing where the heads can't tilt up straight...always leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
I-gear has finally got it right. I'm not going to get into the whole third party vs. Hasbro vs. Takara because in the end it comes down to where and how I want to spend my money, and I want to spend my money on these guys.
I'm not going to diss Hasbro but why couldn't they have done this for the Universe versions.
While I love me Henkei Ironhide and ratchet, what always concerned me is that they transform so backwards, and the head thing where the heads can't tilt up straight...always leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
I-gear has finally got it right. I'm not going to get into the whole third party vs. Hasbro vs. Takara because in the end it comes down to where and how I want to spend my money, and I want to spend my money on these guys.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232684)
Posted by Godzillabot Primal on June 2nd, 2011 @ 9:25pm CDT
Holy Scrap!
Okay calm down Godzillabot...ooommmmm... 
Posted by Godzillabot Primal on June 2nd, 2011 @ 9:25pm CDT
ae_productions wrote:godzillabot wrote:ae_productions wrote:godzillabot wrote:First of all: awesome!!!
Second of all: how much are these going to be?
My best estimation: about the price of the PP-01 faith leader and the PP-03 seeker jets.
Which was?
Around 100 - 120 each. But this is an estimation. I hope there is more info at BotCon this weekend.
Holy Scrap!
Okay calm down Godzillabot...ooommmmm...
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232771)
Posted by Trikeboy on June 2nd, 2011 @ 11:56pm CDT
If the people making these are the same as the people who made the iGear Arcee, 100-120 would be a very decent price for Voyager/Masterpiece Ironhide and Ratchet. Arcee is a very well designed and built toy.
Posted by Trikeboy on June 2nd, 2011 @ 11:56pm CDT
godzillabot wrote:ae_productions wrote:godzillabot wrote:ae_productions wrote:godzillabot wrote:First of all: awesome!!!
Second of all: how much ar
My best estimation: about the price of the PP-01 faith leader and the PP-03 seeker jets.
Which was?
Around 100 - 120 each. But this is an estimation. I hope there is more info at BotCon this weekend.
Holy Scrap!
If the people making these are the same as the people who made the iGear Arcee, 100-120 would be a very decent price for Voyager/Masterpiece Ironhide and Ratchet. Arcee is a very well designed and built toy.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232906)
Posted by Dead Metal on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:12am CDT
The reason they shipped the RTS/Gen to overseas instead of US to make more money was due to them loosing money on the US market, they stated that they lost money during the previous quarter before the final wave of RTS Gnerations where officially released anywhere. And Classics sell less due to not having a movie or Cartoon to support them, they exist solemnly for collectors.
If history follows suit with DOTM, this year will be mostly movie toys, with a few classics figures near the end of the year, and more Classics figures next year alongside movie and Prime figures.
Posted by Dead Metal on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:12am CDT
ae_productions wrote:[b]Hasbro makes lot of toys I want too. These toys are filler between movie toys. Recently, Hasbro made a phenomenal Classics 3.0 line. But good luck finding any of them. Most fans were in the same boat about the poor distribution. Instead of selling these on their websites to make them available to fans, Hasbro chose to ship them overseas to make extra $$ because of the weak US Dollar. This is a business, and that was a business choice, but they then turned around and complained about not making money and taking huge quarterly losses. They also keep noting that Classics toys do not sell well. The toys were made, and are sitting in warehouses. Why not make them available to fans, cut out the middle man (TRU, Walmart, KMart, ect), make some extra $ and make the fans happy? To add insult to injury, there were several of the highly sought after toys that did NOT get USA distribution (Frenzy, Rumble, Windcharger.)
The reason they shipped the RTS/Gen to overseas instead of US to make more money was due to them loosing money on the US market, they stated that they lost money during the previous quarter before the final wave of RTS Gnerations where officially released anywhere. And Classics sell less due to not having a movie or Cartoon to support them, they exist solemnly for collectors.
If history follows suit pertaining to the original TFTM and ROTF toy lines, we are in a long 2 - 3 year drought of nothing but movie toys. That's great news for movie enthusiasts. However, if you collect other lines, you will probably be screwed for a while. Which is why it's nice that companies like iGear, Fansproject, Perfect Effect, TFC, head robots and others are picking up the ball and keeping the fandom in play.
If history follows suit with DOTM, this year will be mostly movie toys, with a few classics figures near the end of the year, and more Classics figures next year alongside movie and Prime figures.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232909)
Posted by Dead Metal on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:16am CDT
I would sign it too, CHUG just sucks.
Posted by Dead Metal on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:16am CDT
Hal7300 wrote:ae_productions wrote:kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:It Is Him wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Can I start a formal petition to stop the use of "Not-" for referring to third party and KO products?
Only if we can agree to stop using CHUG as well.
That is my fondest wish, alas, it seems we can only dream of such a world.
In another thread I suggested making CHUG a banned word on the boards, much like a few other four letter words. Maybe I should start a thread petitioning for it?
I'd sign it.
Seconded.
Me three.
I would sign it too, CHUG just sucks.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232915)
Posted by Dread_Wing on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:28am CDT
Posted by Dread_Wing on June 3rd, 2011 @ 8:28am CDT
I think IGear's Ironhide/Ratchet mould looks awesome. I really wish it was smaller to be in better scale with the Classics Autobot cars, but that is not enough to turn me off, after all the Classics seekers are freaking tiny!
The one thing that has me worried structure-wise is the fragile looking assembly on the inside of the legs. I would not preorder this because of that, better to see a video review first, no way am I forking out 3rd party type money for something that will smash the first time I transform it! (I made that mistake with MP Megatron)
The one thing that has me worried structure-wise is the fragile looking assembly on the inside of the legs. I would not preorder this because of that, better to see a video review first, no way am I forking out 3rd party type money for something that will smash the first time I transform it! (I made that mistake with MP Megatron)
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1232955)
Posted by Godzillabot Primal on June 3rd, 2011 @ 9:34am CDT
I supose you're right, also I didn't think these would be voyager size
Posted by Godzillabot Primal on June 3rd, 2011 @ 9:34am CDT
Trikeboy wrote:godzillabot wrote:ae_productions wrote:godzillabot wrote:ae_productions wrote:godzillabot wrote:First of all: awesome!!!
Second of all: how much ar
My best estimation: about the price of the PP-01 faith leader and the PP-03 seeker jets.
Which was?
Around 100 - 120 each. But this is an estimation. I hope there is more info at BotCon this weekend.
Holy Scrap!
If the people making these are the same as the people who made the iGear Arcee, 100-120 would be a very decent price for Voyager/Masterpiece Ironhide and Ratchet. Arcee is a very well designed and built toy.
I supose you're right, also I didn't think these would be voyager size
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1233255)
Posted by Requiem Prime on June 3rd, 2011 @ 4:28pm CDT
Actually, wouldn't a voyager size van BE in scale with deluxe cars?
Posted by Requiem Prime on June 3rd, 2011 @ 4:28pm CDT
Dread_Wing wrote:I think IGear's Ironhide/Ratchet mould looks awesome. I really wish it was smaller to be in better scale with the Classics Autobot cars, but that is not enough to turn me off, after all the Classics seekers are freaking tiny!
Actually, wouldn't a voyager size van BE in scale with deluxe cars?
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1233301)
Posted by It Is Him on June 3rd, 2011 @ 5:36pm CDT
There's something logical about this, but I can't wrap my head around Ironhide being taller than guys like Sunstreaker.
Posted by It Is Him on June 3rd, 2011 @ 5:36pm CDT
Requiem Prime wrote:Dread_Wing wrote:I think IGear's Ironhide/Ratchet mould looks awesome. I really wish it was smaller to be in better scale with the Classics Autobot cars, but that is not enough to turn me off, after all the Classics seekers are freaking tiny!
Actually, wouldn't a voyager size van BE in scale with deluxe cars?
There's something logical about this, but I can't wrap my head around Ironhide being taller than guys like Sunstreaker.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1233470)
Posted by Stormrider on June 3rd, 2011 @ 9:33pm CDT
Your logic makes sense if everything you are stating is true regarding hasbro's profits and toy distributino. I guess we will know the answer pretty soon at BotCon. I love the figures and hope the 3rd parties keep ramping things like this out.
Posted by Stormrider on June 3rd, 2011 @ 9:33pm CDT
ae_productions wrote:Yeah, but people from Fansprojects, Headrobots and Perfect Effect don't go on to Transformers websites and call a fairly large proportion of the people "little bitches".
You are assuming I work for iGear. I do not. They have no affiliation with me, nor me to them.
Igear has not slandered any of the fans. That was all me. I did.
And yes, it is true. Fans are little bitches. Take a stroll through this topic alone.ae_productions wrote:Hasbro complains how they loose money.
I've never heard of anyone from Hasbro complain about this.
Then you have not bothered to read any of Hasbro's quarterly statements nor their comments about the classics line.ae_productions wrote:Yet, they make no effort to sell product fans want.
I'm a fan and they sell lots of things I want.
Hasbro makes lot of toys I want too. These toys are filler between movie toys. Recently, Hasbro made a phenomenal Classics 3.0 line. But good luck finding any of them. Most fans were in the same boat about the poor distribution. Instead of selling these on their websites to make them available to fans, Hasbro chose to ship them overseas to make extra $$ because of the weak US Dollar. This is a business, and that was a business choice, but they then turned around and complained about not making money and taking huge quarterly losses. They also keep noting that Classics toys do not sell well. The toys were made, and are sitting in warehouses. Why not make them available to fans, cut out the middle man (TRU, Walmart, KMart, ect), make some extra $ and make the fans happy? To add insult to injury, there were several of the highly sought after toys that did NOT get USA distribution (Frenzy, Rumble, Windcharger.)
If history follows suit pertaining to the original TFTM and ROTF toy lines, we are in a long 2 - 3 year drought of nothing but movie toys. That's great news for movie enthusiasts. However, if you collect other lines, you will probably be screwed for a while. Which is why it's nice that companies like iGear, Fansproject, Perfect Effect, TFC, head robots and others are picking up the ball and keeping the fandom in play.
And yes, I agree with you. The iGear Ironhide and Ratchet are phenomenal toys. At least we see eye to eye on something.
Your logic makes sense if everything you are stating is true regarding hasbro's profits and toy distributino. I guess we will know the answer pretty soon at BotCon. I love the figures and hope the 3rd parties keep ramping things like this out.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1262074)
Posted by El Duque on July 19th, 2011 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by El Duque on July 19th, 2011 @ 10:33am CDT
Here's a few new images form iGear's facebook page I thought you guys might be interested in.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1262092)
Posted by Requiem Prime on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:04am CDT
Posted by Requiem Prime on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:04am CDT
Very nice. I don't know exactly what happened to iGear, but I'm very glad it did.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1262096)
Posted by Mkall on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:19am CDT
Same here. Only thing that worries me is the rumoured scale of these two being voyagers instead of deluxes. I'm hoping for deluxe-sized to fit in with the rest of the G1-Classics line.
Posted by Mkall on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:19am CDT
Requiem Prime wrote:Very nice. I don't know exactly what happened to iGear, but I'm very glad it did.
Same here. Only thing that worries me is the rumoured scale of these two being voyagers instead of deluxes. I'm hoping for deluxe-sized to fit in with the rest of the G1-Classics line.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1262097)
Posted by DavidT on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:19am CDT
Posted by DavidT on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:19am CDT
I thought these were gonna be closer to voyager size for some reason. They appear to be deluxe size when pictured next to that Not-Viewfinder... Guess they'll fit in with Classics better.
This person must have really tiny hands if these are deluxe!
This person must have really tiny hands if these are deluxe!
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1262100)
Posted by Kibble on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:28am CDT
Posted by Kibble on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:28am CDT
These do look sweet, but I wouldn't be opposed to someone coming along, stealing the design, and scaling them down an inch or two... Even better if it were HasTak themselves.
Good point...if that's the case, never mind comment above.
DavidT wrote:I thought these were gonna be closer to voyager size for some reason. They appear to be deluxe size when pictured next to that Not-Viewfinder... Guess they'll fit in with Classics better.
Good point...if that's the case, never mind comment above.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1262101)
Posted by alexison on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:29am CDT
It is a rumor.
These still look good but I don't see any progress from the last batch of photos.
Posted by alexison on July 19th, 2011 @ 11:29am CDT
Mkall wrote:Requiem Prime wrote:Very nice. I don't know exactly what happened to iGear, but I'm very glad it did.
Same here. Only thing that worries me is the rumoured scale of these two being voyagers instead of deluxes. I'm hoping for deluxe-sized to fit in with the rest of the G1-Classics line.
It is a rumor.
These still look good but I don't see any progress from the last batch of photos.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1262494)
Posted by korisifu on July 20th, 2011 @ 12:00am CDT
I for one, really hope they don't cost that much but have to agree about Arcee. It hurt my budget to get her but I don't regret it now that I have her on my shelf. Hopefully these will run around $80 tops, but I'd be willing to spend the extra bucks if they are as good as they seem. I don't regret a single Henkei purchase. My issue is having to justify making ends meet elsewhere to buy peices of plastic.
Posted by korisifu on July 20th, 2011 @ 12:00am CDT
Trikeboy wrote:godzillabot wrote:ae_productions wrote:godzillabot wrote:ae_productions wrote:godzillabot wrote:First of all: awesome!!!
Second of all: how much ar
My best estimation: about the price of the PP-01 faith leader and the PP-03 seeker jets.
Which was?
Around 100 - 120 each. But this is an estimation. I hope there is more info at BotCon this weekend.
Holy Scrap!
If the people making these are the same as the people who made the iGear Arcee, 100-120 would be a very decent price for Voyager/Masterpiece Ironhide and Ratchet. Arcee is a very well designed and built toy.
I for one, really hope they don't cost that much but have to agree about Arcee. It hurt my budget to get her but I don't regret it now that I have her on my shelf. Hopefully these will run around $80 tops, but I'd be willing to spend the extra bucks if they are as good as they seem. I don't regret a single Henkei purchase. My issue is having to justify making ends meet elsewhere to buy peices of plastic.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1263127)
Posted by Stormrider on July 20th, 2011 @ 6:05pm CDT
Posted by Stormrider on July 20th, 2011 @ 6:05pm CDT
Love the pictures. I hope the plastic is top grade and solid feeling. It would suck if they are as thin as the cassette drones.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1263133)
Posted by Dread_Wing on July 20th, 2011 @ 6:13pm CDT
Posted by Dread_Wing on July 20th, 2011 @ 6:13pm CDT
I am concerned about that spindly and fragile looking assembly on the inside of his lower leg. That looks like it would bend or snap in a stiff breeze. I will wait for the reviews with this mould, if it proves good, then it will be a definite buy.
Re: Prototype Images Of iGear PP05 "Not Ironhide" (1266195)
Posted by DavidT on July 25th, 2011 @ 3:20pm CDT
Posted by DavidT on July 25th, 2011 @ 3:20pm CDT
Just a few of a bunch of new pics!
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