Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn

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I will start off by saying that this is strictly speculation/educated guessing but we wanted to keep you in the loop in case you want to be as informed as possible about upcoming toys. We know we are getting a voyager Bludgeon toy in the Legacy Evolution line. And yesterday, the designer who worked on Tarn made a post regarding the Tarn figure where they stated that they had chosen to work closely with the comics team.

Here is what Mark maher wrote yesterday:

All hail Takara Tomy’s Yuya Onishi san! He has knocked this IDW’s comic appearance design originally drawn by Alex Milne straight out of the park! One of my mega priorities when I finally got into designing for the Generations segment of Transformers was to have biweekly meetings with our publishing team and our IDW partners. There’s one thing I love just as much as toys, its comics!

And last year, Alex Milne, the same comic artist that first designed Tarn, also shared his design for a Bludgeon, which as you will see has a very similar alt mode. So, we are simply putting two and two together here. Of course, Bludgeon could still be anything but you can't deny how big of a coincidence this is. And the timing lines up with having Bludgeon be at the design stage in 2021 and released in 2023 as a remold of Tarn, both by the same designer who we know already has a toy being made based off of one of his designs.

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Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146208)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:16am CDT

So I went back and got a better look at Tarn's face, and now I'm not so sure about the center face on the poster being the Nemesis... It's probably Tarn.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146211)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:30am CDT

Easy pass if that's what they decide to do for Bludgeon. Tarn looks great as Tarn. Bludgeon should look great as Bludgeon, until then I'll stick with his Baynus versions.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146214)
Posted by SpaceEagle on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:37am CDT

Eugh, yeah I'm really not a fan of this Bludgeon design and it'd stick out like a sore thumb compared to his other Pretender pals in Legacy. I really hope we get something closer to the original G1 design rather than this but I understand the possibility of this with the Tarn tooling.
I'm also hoping for something more geewun to at least replace the aging RotF Bludgeon mold (especially with its rubber treads that melt the plastic.)

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146215)
Posted by DeathReviews on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:40am CDT

MCutter wrote:Has anyone pointed out Chopshop flying in among the Insecticon swarm? I'm guessing he'll be part of the next Buzzworthy 'collide' four-pack.

*edit: name of the four-pack

You can definitely see Chopshop and Venom there - and maybe Barrage if you squint hard. Will they count the Creatures Collide Ransack and not do a proper remold? Probably. Hopefully they'll do new molds for the remaining Deluxe Insecticons...

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146217)
Posted by SpaceEagle on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:43am CDT

DeathReviews wrote:
MCutter wrote:Has anyone pointed out Chopshop flying in among the Insecticon swarm? I'm guessing he'll be part of the next Buzzworthy 'collide' four-pack.

*edit: name of the four-pack

You can definitely see Chopshop and Venom there - and maybe Barrage if you squint hard. Will they count the Creatures Collide Ransack and not do a proper remold? Probably. Hopefully they'll do new molds for the remaining Deluxe Insecticons...

For characters that are (sadly) very underused and unknown to some (thanks to Hasbro using molds of Takara's competitor at the time), I feel like the Deluxe Insecticons will end up being retools of the other 3 Insecticons (that had prominent media appearance and all that).
Except maybe Venom due to his bug mode not really being similar enough to Shrapnel, Kickback, or Bombshell. (I can see them attempting it with Kickback at best due to the big wings.)

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146219)
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:44am CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:So I went back and got a better look at Tarn's face, and now I'm not so sure about the center face on the poster being the Nemesis... It's probably Tarn.

Only reason why I'm not saying it's Tarn is because the designers hinted in the video that there was more to it.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146220)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:52am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So I went back and got a better look at Tarn's face, and now I'm not so sure about the center face on the poster being the Nemesis... It's probably Tarn.

Only reason why I'm not saying it's Tarn is because the designers hinted in the video that there was more to it.

If Tarn could combine with the Nemesis that would be amazing.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146221)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:01pm CDT

I think im one of the few that actually likes Leo primes lion face haha. I dont mind the lifeless eyes though I do agree some black to trace some of the lines would look better

And tigatron was given pupils so I guess they could've done the same this time around, not sure why not

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146223)
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:03pm CDT

We have a new post on Instagram from Evan, the Hasbro designer who presented the core class Dinos on friday. Firstly, it is funny how Hasbro clearly reads comments since they are all well aware that most of the excitement came from the reveals of Tarn and Lio Prime (even despite the lion face). There are 2 really cool pieces of info here that made me want to share this with you quickly. Firstly, Volcanicus will combine using 5 mm ports. That means that you can already combine him with other recent Generations toys, as shown in the images he shares.

Secondly, and most importantly, he states the following in terms of choosing 6 core class bots rather than 4 core limbs and 1 deluxe bot as the body:

Ultimately, we went with 6 core class bots and perhaps we’ll get some sort of future purposes out of these molds.

While Dinoking is not mentioned explicitly, this is undoubtedly what is being referred to since Dinoking is a small Dinosaur themed combiner from the G1 era which also had 6 equally sized bots combining together. And, while Volcanicus has Grimlock's T-rex as the centre piece, it is Slug's Triceratops head here, which more closely matches Dinoking's appearance in the Japanese show. Also, Hasbro is NOTORIOUS for "stay tuned" or "we'll see" nothing responses, so actually hinting at something on Social media, in an unpromted fashion, means there is something in play. Another big tell that Dinoking is coming is that the rumour for Skar's alt mode (we already know he's the 6th Dynobot) is it's an anklylosaurus. And that is the 6th dino shell used in the original toy (all other shells correspond to alt modes the other 5 Dinobots have, you can see an image below).

Now, here is the full statement from Instagram along with images of the post and extra images showing you Dinoking.

I hope you enjoyed our Pulse Con show and saw some things you can wait to get on your shelves. (Tarn and Lio Prime, right!?)

I wanted to show off the core class dinobots that we will be releasing throughout 2023.

I wanted to try and make a core class combiner since it’s been several years since we last did and thats a feature that I’ve always loved. I think that was the legends scale Abominus for Beast hunters!? Or the retooled version we did for Infernocus…feel free to correct me in the comments. Many robots merging to make a bigger robot is just the best and we have so many in our history that need updates. I guess this was something of an experiment?

When Shu san and I started to work on this, we also were having conversations with Hasui san on how best to implement it. We had talked about one of the bots being DLX class to be the main body while all the limbs are Core. Perhaps this is something we’ll look at doing in the future for other combiners at this scale if you all enjoy these bots. Ultimately, we went with 6 core class bots and perhaps we’ll get some sort of future purposes out of these molds.

Having 2 bots form the chest also gives it some nice dimension.

But anyway, here we have Slug and Sludge who form the torso of Volcanicus! They combine using 5mm ports so you can use all our other weaponizers, fossilizers, modulators and even the new Junkions to build with them!

From the pictures you’ll notice that we had to fuse their arms, removing their elbows for structural support for the combined mode but a few of the other dinobots will have elbows.

Obviously Sludge as well has a bit of Combiner kibble for his thighs but remember: “Thick bots do squats!” And he’s gonna deadlift this Gestalt with those thunderous thighs.

Thanks again for tuning in and we’ll try to post more to answer any questions you may have.

Thanks and I hope you enjoy,

-Evan

Transformers Victory Dinoking Gallery

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146224)
Posted by SpaceEagle on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:15pm CDT

The comment about how other combiners "need updates" is probably as on-the-nose as it can get aside from outright saying "this will be retooled into Dinoking."

That's still pretty exciting, I know people would prefer a bigger Dinoking/Monstructor but I s'pose for how small the original toy(s) was(were) I think that's at least cute.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146225)
Posted by Sigmus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:17pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Of course, Bludgeon could still be anything but you can't deny how big of a coincidence this is. And the timing lines up with having Bludgeon be at the design stage in 2021 and released in 2023 as a remold of Tarn, both by the same designer who we know already has a toy being made based off of one of his designs.

I would hope for some considerable retooling to Bludgeon, so that he looks more "G1 Pretender" and less "contemporary IDW". Would be unfortunate if he didn't gel well aesthetically with the other Pretenders they've released in Legacy so far.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146226)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:18pm CDT

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

A fembot titan with genuinely feminine proportions and a minimal backpack would be not only awesome, but it would be quite a design feat!

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146231)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:14pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Speaking of Leo Prime, I still think they went the wrong way with the lion face. I wouldn't have expected them to go full cartoony ala the MP but I was looking at the original toy and that face is perfect middle ground which Hasbro should have gone for instead.

It makes me wonder whether they ran out of room on the white sprue. Or maybe they just thought the "glowing gold" look would be cooler.

I'm sure Aaron Archer would have gone for eyes more like the original toy if it could at all have been finagled, though.
...As an aside, can we take a moment to appreciate that the only version of Lio Convoy to have ears that aren't subsumed by the mane color, is the Leobreaker retool?

william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Anyway, the chimera in question can be seen here. I tried to embed, but Wikia is a butt about that

GOOD!

I suppose it's okay in this case for not setting off fellow FMA fans, but it's still irritating in a general sense that they've blocked image hotlinking.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146232)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:28pm CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

A fembot titan with genuinely feminine proportions and a minimal backpack would be not only awesome, but it would be quite a design feat!

Yes it would. But as I said, upon further inspection my excitement was moot, I'm pretty sure that's Tarn on the poster.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146234)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:35pm CDT

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:...As an aside, can we take a moment to appreciate that the only version of Lio Convoy to have ears that aren't subsumed by the mane color, is the Leobreaker retool?

Only if a moment is taken for the Takara Legends Lio Convoy too...

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146235)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:41pm CDT

blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:...As an aside, can we take a moment to appreciate that the only version of Lio Convoy to have ears that aren't subsumed by the mane color, is the Leobreaker retool?

Only if a moment is taken for the Takara Legends Lio Convoy too...

Oh. Oops

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146237)
Posted by Bounti76 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:56pm CDT

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

I still think the Ark's face should have been Auntie, since she's the operating AI for the ship.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146239)
Posted by Xenos Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:00pm CDT

Fingers crossed Dinobot #6 is an Ankylosaurus.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146240)
Posted by Bounti76 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:01pm CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote::saint:
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!
Not to mention the 1st female Titan! Even IDW didn't do that! Though I always thought Carcer could be female, considering Elita was in charge. I don't remember if it was ever stated what Carcer's pronoun was.

Carcer turned out to be Vigilem, who's male. The first female Titan in Transformers history was Lodestar, in IDW 2018, though in that fiction, Cargohold is a female Titan who's older than Lodestar.

Re: Recent Alex Milne Design Can Give us an idea of Legacy Bludgeon Toy Remolded from Tarn (2146241)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:02pm CDT