Rereleases of Cliffjumper and Kup with new Paint Apps Coming to the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Line

Ah, that’s where that B-127 redeco ended up! Interesting that it keeps the numbering of the original.

Glad Cliffjumper is getting rereleased, but I hate that they're using painted windows. It didn't look good on the Classics Rodimus in that 2-pack with Universe Cyclonus, and it doesn't look good here either. Kup is kinda alright, but even then I'd prefer something that doesn't clash with the rest of my collection.

Welp, time to abandon my 86 Cliffjumper custom. This more or less looks exactly what I was doing.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Ah, that’s where that B-127 redeco ended up! Interesting that it keeps the numbering of the original.

So does Kup, but that then implies that Cliffjumper will be SS86 13. Did we even have Cliff leaked for SS86 yet? If not, this all but confirms it I think.

Well, looks like I may be selling my SS86 Kup...
I think the painted windshield looks substantially better... Obviously it doesn't make the shoulders look higher, but the upper torso looks way more cohesive.
I can also appreciate it looks like they added just a little bit of paint/line work that was seen in the movie to show his "age".
Anyway, as I look at this new version, I want it. I'm going to get it as soon as I can.


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Although it probably doesn't matter now...
I have done a 180 with Cliffjumper... What initially was kind of mehhh (and I think I was kind of distracted by the window paint) has turned into a very-much-going-to-buy-this situation.
This is substantially better enough for me that I'll try and sell my ER version.

This kind of makes me wonder if this subline is going to bring us a Magenta Hot Rod. Which I'm very in favor of!
Imo it seems unlikely that Buzzworthy is going to stop with two characters... Especially these two.

Okay, this is amazing news! I was just thinking earlier today about Earthrise Cliffjumper and how I wished it was a little closer to the G1 cartoon like many of the other various G1 updates we've gotten over the past few years. And now, that's exactly what we're getting! That's some INSTANT gratification, lol! I hope these show up at Target here in the US in the coming weeks.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Ah, that’s where that B-127 redeco ended up! Interesting that it keeps the numbering of the original.

So does Kup, but that then implies that Cliffjumper will be SS86 13. Did we even have Cliff leaked for SS86 yet? If not, this all but confirms it I think.

Maybe the Cliffjumper that comes out in the Studio Series 86 line proper will have unpainted blue plastic windows, but otherwise have the same deco as the Buzzworthy Bumblebee release, similar to what we see with SS86-02 Kup.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
So does Kup, but that then implies that Cliffjumper will be SS86 13. Did we even have Cliff leaked for SS86 yet? If not, this all but confirms it I think.

It’s possible, although Buzzworthy is a little weird with releases and numbering. For example, AOE High Octane Bumblebee was repacked in a Buzzworthy 2-pack with Stinger as a newly numbered SS figure, but by all indications it won’t be getting a single release. SS-74 ROTF Bumblebee was single packed in Buzzworthy as an early release before showing in the mainline though.

Kup just seems like such a weird choice for Buzzworthy, do Kup and Bumblebee ever interact?

The funny thing is Kup looks more movie accurate in Buzzworthy Bumblebee. And Cliffjumper with gray limbs is more cartoon accurate as well.

Good grief. Do I sell off the other ones?

I think Kup looks good with the paint, as sol magnus said, he's actually more movie accurate. I like Cliffy as he is in ER, so I'll be passing on this version. The painted window doesn't look good to me.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think Kup looks good with the paint, as sol magnus said, he's actually more movie accurate. I like Cliffy as he is in ER, so I'll be passing on this version. The painted window doesn't look good to me.

That's the only thing I'm really iffy on too, honestly. But, it's not a dealbreaker for me. The mix of gray and black plastic/paint for the robot mode limbs is perfectly on model with the G1 cartoon and movie, and he actually has an Autobot symbol on this release too! (Why did Earthrise omit that?) My hope is that we do see a SS86-13 Cliffjumper in the proper Studio Series line next year, then the deco will also be a little different, like this BB Kup, but it will only omit the painted windows. That's the best of both worlds for me!

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think Kup looks good with the paint, as sol magnus said, he's actually more movie accurate. I like Cliffy as he is in ER, so I'll be passing on this version. The painted window doesn't look good to me.

I bet they make Jazz, too.

sol magnus wrote:The funny thing is Kup looks more movie accurate in Buzzworthy Bumblebee. And Cliffjumper with gray limbs is more cartoon accurate as well.

Good grief. Do I sell off the other ones?

You could use them as clones, created by the Decepticons to infiltrate and sabotage the Autobots.

sol magnus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think Kup looks good with the paint, as sol magnus said, he's actually more movie accurate. I like Cliffy as he is in ER, so I'll be passing on this version. The painted window doesn't look good to me.

I bet they make Jazz, too.

I have that feeling too, and, if Hasbro is really smart, they can do without any transparent plastic for that release, which should make some collectors worried about the SS86 release of Jazz's fragility very happy.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
So does Kup, but that then implies that Cliffjumper will be SS86 13. Did we even have Cliff leaked for SS86 yet? If not, this all but confirms it I think.

It’s possible, although Buzzworthy is a little weird with releases and numbering. For example, AOE High Octane Bumblebee was repacked in a Buzzworthy 2-pack with Stinger as a newly numbered SS figure, but by all indications it won’t be getting a single release. SS-74 ROTF Bumblebee was single packed in Buzzworthy as an early release before showing in the mainline though.

Kup just seems like such a weird choice for Buzzworthy, do Kup and Bumblebee ever interact?

Not in any slightly significant way that would bear association. But neither did Fangry. The Buzzworthy line is proving to just be a way to have more product on shelves. Hasbro probably saw that more Kup was needed based on orders and this is how they are satisfying predicted demand.

I think the big pack with Fangry, SG Primal, et al solidly proved that "Buzzworthy Bumblebee" is basically an odds and sods line.

I look forward to the kind of people who buy those Toyhax cel shaded windshield stickers selling their ER Cliffjumpers off at or near cost to fund purchasing this version.

william-james88 wrote:
Not in any slightly significant way that would bear association. But neither did Fangry. The Buzzworthy line is proving to just be a way to have more product on shelves. Hasbro probably saw that more Kup was needed based on orders and this is how they are satisfying predicted demand.

Ah, that's right. Speaking of that pack, I wonder if we'll see a reissue of the Bumblebee from that pack or Netflix Bee in Buzzworthy, like what we're seeing with Cliffjumper here.

Wow... while I can see how ER Starscream could get a pass as part of SS86 with coronation upgrades, the ER Cliffjumper makes little sense. It is a fine toy on its own, but it is nowhere near TF:TM accurate in appearance. I know some characters were speculated as budget repaints, but it just cheapens the concept that they are actually doing this.

o.supreme wrote:Wow... while I can see how ER Starscream could get a pass as part of SS86 with coronation upgrades, the ER Cliffjumper makes little sense. It is a fine toy on its own, but it is nowhere near TF:TM accurate in appearance.

And your point is...? This is neither SS86 nor an extension of it. It's just an odds-and-sods line for assorted stuff they want to put on shelves but can't squeeze into the other lines.

o.supreme wrote:I know some characters were speculated as budget repaints, but it just cheapens the concept that they are actually doing this.

Cheapens what concept? The concept of a misc. line? The concept of budget redecoes?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Wow... while I can see how ER Starscream could get a pass as part of SS86 with coronation upgrades, the ER Cliffjumper makes little sense. It is a fine toy on its own, but it is nowhere near TF:TM accurate in appearance.

And your point is...? This is neither SS86 nor an extension of it. It's just an odds-and-sods line for assorted stuff they want to put on shelves but can't squeeze into the other lines.

o.supreme wrote:I know some characters were speculated as budget repaints, but it just cheapens the concept that they are actually doing this.

Cheapens what concept? The concept of a misc. line? The concept of budget redecoes?

I think o.supreme is carrying on the speculation that Cliffjumper is destined for the SS86 line itself based on his number designation and SS86 branding.

As for me, we'll see what happens. G1 accuracy was never my bag so these don't do a lot for me. Happy for those who like them though.

Judging from the box we can expect that 86 Arcee to show up here too. I prefer well done painted windows over clear ones if there's no car interior details so I intend to get both.

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