Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup

Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup

Wednesday, April 5th, 2017 9:10am CDT

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Fellow Seibertronian Fenrir has informed us of listings of the other Transformers Legends toys to be released in September, along with Trypticon. These have appeared on facebook on both the Loopaza Megastore page and the Planet Iacon page.

Transformers News: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup

For those who cannot read Japanese this translates to:

LG44 Sharkicon & Sweeps (Titans Return Gnaw with an additional Titan master Head)
LG45 Target Master Hot Rodimus (Titans Return Hot Rod with a Titan Master vehicle/weapon)
LG46 Target Master Kup (Titans Return Kup with a Titan Master vehicle/weapon)

The listing also shows that the three most popular Movie the Best toys will get a rerelease: Voyager Optimus Prime, Megatron and Soundwave.

The prices mentionned are incredibly low though, so this may be the cost to sellers rather than the actual MSRP.

Credit(s): Planet Iacon


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Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1871886)
Posted by Kurona on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:11am CDT
They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.

But yeah, no doubt this was gonna happen. Fun to see they're using the vehicles to try and make Hot Rod and Kup Targetmasters.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1871887)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:14am CDT
Kurona wrote:They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.
Think of it as a means to army-build both the Sharkticons and the Sweeps at the same time. A Legends class army-builder packed with a Headmaster army-builder.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1871888)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:22am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.
Think of it as a means to army-build both the Sharkticons and the Sweeps at the same time. A Legends class army-builder packed with a Headmaster army-builder.

Still an odd choice since your still left without sweep bodies. The fiction so far showed us that sweeps can have different faces rather than the same face with different bodies.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1871890)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:32am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.
Think of it as a means to army-build both the Sharkticons and the Sweeps at the same time. A Legends class army-builder packed with a Headmaster army-builder.

Still an odd choice since your still left without sweep bodies. The fiction so far showed us that sweeps can have different faces rather than the same face with different bodies.
They do?

Image

It looks like the same face to me, just with different expressions due to their being in different moods/personalities.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1871892)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.
Think of it as a means to army-build both the Sharkticons and the Sweeps at the same time. A Legends class army-builder packed with a Headmaster army-builder.

Still an odd choice since your still left without sweep bodies. The fiction so far showed us that sweeps can have different faces rather than the same face with different bodies.
They do?

It looks like the same face to me, just with different expressions due to their being in different moods/personalities.

I wasnt clear but it doesnt matter, now we know that at least it wont be another scourge head. Still, kinda uselss without the bodies.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1871903)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:56am CDT
Eh, I think it'd be cool to just have a little army of Sweep heads marching about. It'd certainly make Trypticon look a bit more inhabited.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872003)
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT
That's really strange. All this time the Hasbro Legends class guys have been packed with a Hasbro Titan Master class figure, so why suddenly repack a head they've used before? Would make more sense to use one of the many Decepticon Titan Masters they haven't used yet like Fangry for Wilder who has already been in the Legends comics?

Also interesting that they're giving Kup and Hot Rod partner vehicles when they didn't Blurr and Scourge. It's not like those guys where Targetmasters in Japan (until 2004).

Emerje
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872009)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2017 @ 2:15pm CDT
Emerje wrote:That's really strange. All this time the Hasbro Legends class guys have been packed with a Hasbro Titan Master class figure, so why suddenly repack a head they've used before?

As Sabre posted in the comic above, the sweeps dont have Scourge's head so this head would be different. It would be one of the titanmasters with a visor, replicating the face of the sweeps.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872014)
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2017 @ 2:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:That's really strange. All this time the Hasbro Legends class guys have been packed with a Hasbro Titan Master class figure, so why suddenly repack a head they've used before?

As Sabre posted in the comic above, the sweeps dont have Scourge's head so this head would be different. It would be one of the titanmasters with a visor, replicating the face of the sweeps.

Sweep 1 in that comic is Scourge (Hasbro's Titan Master Fracas). That's the point that Sabr was making, they're basically going to repackage Scourge's head with Gnaw for double army building without having to buy Scourge seven times. Still seems like a strange choice to me, it caters to a very small number of fans that care about army building (and army building a head of all things) and gives a duplicate head to people that already have Scourge.

Emerje
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872052)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 5th, 2017 @ 5:44pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:That's really strange. All this time the Hasbro Legends class guys have been packed with a Hasbro Titan Master class figure, so why suddenly repack a head they've used before?

As Sabre posted in the comic above, the sweeps dont have Scourge's head so this head would be different. It would be one of the titanmasters with a visor, replicating the face of the sweeps.

Sweep 1 in that comic is Scourge (Hasbro's Titan Master Fracas). That's the point that Sabr was making, they're basically going to repackage Scourge's head with Gnaw for double army building without having to buy Scourge seven times. Still seems like a strange choice to me, it caters to a very small number of fans that care about army building (and army building a head of all things) and gives a duplicate head to people that already have Scourge.

Emerje
Well, if they didn't pack the Sharkticon with a Sweep head, then they'd pack it with a head that no one would want to army-build. Anyone in Japan who'd want to create their own little army of Sharkticons would also end up with an army of some other dude who's only supposed to be one guy. In a perfect world, the Sharkticon (and all of the TR Legends class molds) ought to have been sold individually, without a packed-in Headmaster. But I guess Takara simply didn't want to sell Gen Legends class toys individually in the TF: Legends line, as both Swerve and Tailgate ended up being released as a two-pack with each other, while all the other Gen Legends class figures from before TR (but released after Takara's Generations line ended) ended up being relegated to the Adventure line. The big question we should be asking is why Takara simply won't release Gen Legends class molds in the TF: Legends line individually without pairing them up with either a second Gen Legends mold or a Titan Master.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872055)
Posted by Kurona on April 5th, 2017 @ 5:50pm CDT
I'm also wondering why they don't just do like you said and put Gnaw in the Adventure line. Or, heck, just straight-up make a pack of 2 or 3 Sharkticons!
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872072)
Posted by Cobotron on April 5th, 2017 @ 6:47pm CDT
You know what Legends class figures I have a strong feeling WILL be released in 2-packs in the Legends line?

The CLONES!!!!
Who's with me?!! :michaelbay:
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872073)
Posted by Kurona on April 5th, 2017 @ 6:55pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:You know what Legends class figures I have a strong feeling WILL be released in 2-packs in the Legends line?

The CLONES!!!!
Who's with me?!! :michaelbay:

Definitely :D Part of me also thinks there's a possibility they'll be a 4-pack, but probably not. Wonder how the pack-in comics'll explain their diminished size...
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872077)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 5th, 2017 @ 7:02pm CDT
Maybe some downsizing MacGuffin.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872099)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:03pm CDT
One caveat about Targetmaster Rodimus and Kup: they do not come with any extra accessories, if we are to believe the prices are final. I did some price comparing and the (unusually) low price of 2,600 Yen is closer to the price for Scourge and Blurr (3,200 Yen), who did not come with an extra vehicle/weapon. The original Headmaster who did come with them were 4,000 Yen, nowhere near the 2,600 Yen price.

Literally "jumping the gun" a bit there :lol:

The "Targetmaster" name probably relates to their Transformers Collection reissues, one that Blurr was never released in. If that's the case, we could potentially see Firebolt and Recoil making an appearance.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872102)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:10pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:One caveat about Targetmaster Rodimus and Kup: they do not come with any extra accessories, if we are to believe the prices are final. I did some price comparing and the (unusually) low price of 2,600 Yen is closer to the price for Scourge and Blurr (3,200 Yen), who did not come with an extra vehicle/weapon. The original Headmaster who did come with them were 4,000 Yen, nowhere near the 2,600 Yen price.

Literally "jumping the gun" a bit there :lol:

The "Targetmaster" name probably relates to their Transformers Collection reissues, one that Blurr was never released in. If that's the case, we could potentially see Firebolt and Recoil making an appearance.

Thats because those are the prices a seller sees when they buy from Takara. Thats where these leaks come from (and why we are seeing them before anything else). What you see is the cost price, not the MSRP. We can confirm that with the prices of the MB toys which are no where near the price anyone has ever listed them for. Since they are reissues then that proves that none of these prices are MSRPs and they line up with being close to 50% of the MSRP instead, which is the industry average for the markup.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872104)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:20pm CDT
Huh, never knew. I retract my statement then. :oops: The markups do vary: for Sharktron & Sweeps it's roughly 40%, while a 50% markups brings the other two closer to the standard price for the Deluxe + vehicle/weapon sets.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872107)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:21pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Huh, never knew. I retract my statement then. :oops:

No worries. But just curious, the prices for the MB figures didnt tip you off about anything?
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872179)
Posted by Cyberpath on April 6th, 2017 @ 4:42am CDT
Cobotron wrote:You know what Legends class figures I have a strong feeling WILL be released in 2-packs in the Legends line?

The CLONES!!!!
Who's with me?!! :michaelbay:

Put me down for that.

I wonder when they'll get to Brawn, Perceptor, Twinferno and the rest.
Re: Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup (1872180)
Posted by Kurona on April 6th, 2017 @ 4:44am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:
Cobotron wrote:You know what Legends class figures I have a strong feeling WILL be released in 2-packs in the Legends line?

The CLONES!!!!
Who's with me?!! :michaelbay:

Put me down for that.

I wonder when they'll get to Brawn, Perceptor, Twinferno and the rest.

I have little doubt they will; though like previously it seems a lot of TR molds'll get mixed in with POTP molds - much like T30 molds got mixed in with CW molds. Legends is fun!

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