Reveal of Upcoming Takara Legends Toys to be Released in September: Sharkticon, Hot Rod, Kup

Kurona wrote:They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.

Think of it as a means to army-build both the Sharkticons and the Sweeps at the same time. A Legends class army-builder packed with a Headmaster army-builder.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.

Think of it as a means to army-build both the Sharkticons and the Sweeps at the same time. A Legends class army-builder packed with a Headmaster army-builder.

Still an odd choice since your still left without sweep bodies. The fiction so far showed us that sweeps can have different faces rather than the same face with different bodies.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:They're including... a Scourge head? Unless we should take this as a hint at a Titan Master in Wave 6 or the boxsets, that seems like an odd choice.

Think of it as a means to army-build both the Sharkticons and the Sweeps at the same time. A Legends class army-builder packed with a Headmaster army-builder.

Still an odd choice since your still left without sweep bodies. The fiction so far showed us that sweeps can have different faces rather than the same face with different bodies.

They do?

It looks like the same face to me, just with different expressions due to their being in different moods/personalities.

Emerje wrote:That's really strange. All this time the Hasbro Legends class guys have been packed with a Hasbro Titan Master class figure, so why suddenly repack a head they've used before?

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:That's really strange. All this time the Hasbro Legends class guys have been packed with a Hasbro Titan Master class figure, so why suddenly repack a head they've used before?

As Sabre posted in the comic above, the sweeps dont have Scourge's head so this head would be different. It would be one of the titanmasters with a visor, replicating the face of the sweeps.

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:That's really strange. All this time the Hasbro Legends class guys have been packed with a Hasbro Titan Master class figure, so why suddenly repack a head they've used before?

As Sabre posted in the comic above, the sweeps dont have Scourge's head so this head would be different. It would be one of the titanmasters with a visor, replicating the face of the sweeps.

Sweep 1 in that comic is Scourge (Hasbro's Titan Master Fracas). That's the point that Sabr was making, they're basically going to repackage Scourge's head with Gnaw for double army building without having to buy Scourge seven times. Still seems like a strange choice to me, it caters to a very small number of fans that care about army building (and army building a head of all things) and gives a duplicate head to people that already have Scourge.

Emerje

Cobotron wrote:You know what Legends class figures I have a strong feeling WILL be released in 2-packs in the Legends line?

The CLONES!!!!
Who's with me?!!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:One caveat about Targetmaster Rodimus and Kup: they do not come with any extra accessories, if we are to believe the prices are final. I did some price comparing and the (unusually) low price of 2,600 Yen is closer to the price for Scourge and Blurr (3,200 Yen), who did not come with an extra vehicle/weapon. The original Headmaster who did come with them were 4,000 Yen, nowhere near the 2,600 Yen price.

Literally "jumping the gun" a bit there

The "Targetmaster" name probably relates to their Transformers Collection reissues, one that Blurr was never released in. If that's the case, we could potentially see Firebolt and Recoil making an appearance.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Huh, never knew. I retract my statement then.

Cobotron wrote:You know what Legends class figures I have a strong feeling WILL be released in 2-packs in the Legends line?

The CLONES!!!!
Who's with me?!!

Cyberpath wrote:

Cobotron wrote:You know what Legends class figures I have a strong feeling WILL be released in 2-packs in the Legends line?

The CLONES!!!!
Who's with me?!!

Put me down for that.

I wonder when they'll get to Brawn, Perceptor, Twinferno and the rest.

Cobotron wrote:You know what Legends class figures I have a strong feeling WILL be released in 2-packs in the Legends line?

The CLONES!!!!
Who's with me?!!

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Preorder now, and when pics come out before the release date, if the figures' decos aren't to your liking, cancel them post haste.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Preorder now, and when pics come out before the release date, if the figures' decos aren't to your liking, cancel them post haste.

Or order them from somewhere that actualy buys them directly from Takara so you buy them at their actual price.

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Preorder now, and when pics come out before the release date, if the figures' decos aren't to your liking, cancel them post haste.

Or order them from somewhere that actualy buys them directly from Takara so you buy them at their actual price.

I have done that but sometime it makes zero difference. Originally I preordered Ginrai and with the import shipping it was gonna cost me $115 so I just went with bbts and cost me $110. Same with my united computron and that awful Second chance shockwave figure. I ended up paying $10-15 more with the shippinng going with over seas site than just going with the local sites for both of them

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Preorder now, and when pics come out before the release date, if the figures' decos aren't to your liking, cancel them post haste.

Or order them from somewhere that actualy buys them directly from Takara so you buy them at their actual price.

I have done that but sometime it makes zero difference. Originally I preordered Ginrai and with the import shipping it was gonna cost me $115 so I just went with bbts and cost me $110. Same with my united computron and that awful Second chance shockwave figure. I ended up paying $10-15 more with the shippinng going with over seas site than just going with the local sites for both of them

steals_your_goats wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Preorder now, and when pics come out before the release date, if the figures' decos aren't to your liking, cancel them post haste.

Or order them from somewhere that actualy buys them directly from Takara so you buy them at their actual price.

I have done that but sometime it makes zero difference. Originally I preordered Ginrai and with the import shipping it was gonna cost me $115 so I just went with bbts and cost me $110. Same with my united computron and that awful Second chance shockwave figure. I ended up paying $10-15 more with the shippinng going with over seas site than just going with the local sites for both of them

Are you U.S based? Because I imported Ginrai from amiami and it cost $180 shipped for him, Soundwave and brainstorm

Randomhero wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Preorder now, and when pics come out before the release date, if the figures' decos aren't to your liking, cancel them post haste.

Or order them from somewhere that actualy buys them directly from Takara so you buy them at their actual price.

I have done that but sometime it makes zero difference. Originally I preordered Ginrai and with the import shipping it was gonna cost me $115 so I just went with bbts and cost me $110. Same with my united computron and that awful Second chance shockwave figure. I ended up paying $10-15 more with the shippinng going with over seas site than just going with the local sites for both of them

Are you U.S based? Because I imported Ginrai from amiami and it cost $180 shipped for him, Soundwave and brainstorm

Yeah I'm in the middle of the US. Iowa. Shipping was like 25-35 cheapest so I looked around and decided to go local which did save me some money and BBTS shipping warehouse is literately the next state over so it only takes 2 days if that

william-james88 wrote:Speaking of prices for legends figures, youu can currently purchase an out of box legends skullcruncher for $25 which is basically the price of a deluxe figure plus the titan master vehicle.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FHot-Transformer%20...%20Sw65FXwVrt%3C%2Fa%3E%3F

kurthy wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Preorder now, and when pics come out before the release date, if the figures' decos aren't to your liking, cancel them post haste.

Or order them from somewhere that actualy buys them directly from Takara so you buy them at their actual price.

I have done that but sometime it makes zero difference. Originally I preordered Ginrai and with the import shipping it was gonna cost me $115 so I just went with bbts and cost me $110. Same with my united computron and that awful Second chance shockwave figure. I ended up paying $10-15 more with the shippinng going with over seas site than just going with the local sites for both of them

Are you U.S based? Because I imported Ginrai from amiami and it cost $180 shipped for him, Soundwave and brainstorm

Yeah I'm in the middle of the US. Iowa. Shipping was like 25-35 cheapest so I looked around and decided to go local which did save me some money and BBTS shipping warehouse is literately the next state over so it only takes 2 days if that

Now I'm confused, because I ship through amiami, choose SAL, and live in Iowa City and it is always way cheaper than BBTS. MP-36 was only $196 shipped vs. $225 before shipping from BBTS. The only time it wasn't significantly cheaper was Fort Max so I went with the Hasbro version.

Randomhero wrote:Well whenever I've imported it's with robot kingdom and that probably why.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Right, two new releases, maybe two new drones to be redecoed... We may have a problem there. Honestly, I can't see TakaraTomy using any of these molds for them:

- Ptero
- Sawback
- Fangry
- Shuffler

... leaving only Repugnus. I guess he could be paired with Rodimus given the whole planet Beast thing in Headmasters, but Kup?

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Right, two new releases, maybe two new drones to be redecoed... We may have a problem there. Honestly, I can't see TakaraTomy using any of these molds for them:

- Ptero
- Sawback
- Fangry
- Shuffler

... leaving only Repugnus. I guess he could be paired with Rodimus given the whole planet Beast thing in Headmasters, but Kup?

I totally him weilding shuffler. that looks like an actual weapon

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm really surprised that Bumblebee isn't getting released in this first wave

YoungPrime wrote:Wait!

.....40 bucks for Kup?


Keep it!

Thrilling 30 Sgt. Kup as main Kup it is then....

I'll likely buy 2 more Sharkticon's but it'll be for $20 total not $40!

fenrir72 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm really surprised that Bumblebee isn't getting released in this first wave

And Kickback.

YoungPrime wrote:Wait!

.....40 bucks for Kup?


Keep it!

Thrilling 30 Sgt. Kup as main Kup it is then....

I'll likely buy 2 more Sharkticon's but it'll be for $20 total not $40!

Sodan-1 wrote:I'm hoping it's significant that Kup and Hot Rod's titles include the term Target Master.

Sabrblade wrote:Well, if they didn't pack the Sharkticon with a Sweep head, then they'd pack it with a head that no one would want to army-build. Anyone in Japan who'd want to create their own little army of Sharkticons would also end up with an army of some other dude who's only supposed to be one guy. In a perfect world, the Sharkticon (and all of the TR Legends class molds) ought to have been sold individually, without a packed-in Headmaster. But I guess Takara simply didn't want to sell Gen Legends class toys individually in the TF: Legends line, as both Swerve and Tailgate ended up being released as a two-pack with each other, while all the other Gen Legends class figures from before TR (but released after Takara's Generations line ended) ended up being relegated to the Adventure line. The big question we should be asking is why Takara simply won't release Gen Legends class molds in the TF: Legends line individually without pairing them up with either a second Gen Legends mold or a Titan Master.

Randomhero wrote:

kurthy wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'd really like to get Hot rod and Kup but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $80 on two deluxes for cartoon paint and Titan master vehicles I already own and are in a box somewhere because the mini vehicles do nothing for me.

I already have three Gnaws and three TR scourge figures as sweeps so that doesn't wow in the slightest.

I'm gonna gamble and wait for photos. Kup is really one I say "Titans Return in is fine, I like toy colors." But Hot Rod, it's gotta be the magenta colors to sell me. Usually they don't do that but the they did with MP hot rod. If it's magenta I'll snag one if the preorders don't sell out.

Preorder now, and when pics come out before the release date, if the figures' decos aren't to your liking, cancel them post haste.

Or order them from somewhere that actualy buys them directly from Takara so you buy them at their actual price.

I have done that but sometime it makes zero difference. Originally I preordered Ginrai and with the import shipping it was gonna cost me $115 so I just went with bbts and cost me $110. Same with my united computron and that awful Second chance shockwave figure. I ended up paying $10-15 more with the shippinng going with over seas site than just going with the local sites for both of them

Are you U.S based? Because I imported Ginrai from amiami and it cost $180 shipped for him, Soundwave and brainstorm

Yeah I'm in the middle of the US. Iowa. Shipping was like 25-35 cheapest so I looked around and decided to go local which did save me some money and BBTS shipping warehouse is literately the next state over so it only takes 2 days if that

Now I'm confused, because I ship through amiami, choose SAL, and live in Iowa City and it is always way cheaper than BBTS. MP-36 was only $196 shipped vs. $225 before shipping from BBTS. The only time it wasn't significantly cheaper was Fort Max so I went with the Hasbro version.

Well whenever I've imported it's with robot kingdom and that probably why. I've heard their mailing is higher sometimes. I was going to get TR Broadside and Sky Shadow and I think they came to over $100 with shipping so decided just wait and pick them up when they're out. I think they charged me like $40-50 for computron to ship but that I had to bite down on because everywhere was sold out.

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Well, if they didn't pack the Sharkticon with a Sweep head, then they'd pack it with a head that no one would want to army-build. Anyone in Japan who'd want to create their own little army of Sharkticons would also end up with an army of some other dude who's only supposed to be one guy. In a perfect world, the Sharkticon (and all of the TR Legends class molds) ought to have been sold individually, without a packed-in Headmaster. But I guess Takara simply didn't want to sell Gen Legends class toys individually in the TF: Legends line, as both Swerve and Tailgate ended up being released as a two-pack with each other, while all the other Gen Legends class figures from before TR (but released after Takara's Generations line ended) ended up being relegated to the Adventure line. The big question we should be asking is why Takara simply won't release Gen Legends class molds in the TF: Legends line individually without pairing them up with either a second Gen Legends mold or a Titan Master.

Valid point. It's almost a shame there isn't a good Autobot army builder so they could repack Nightbeat again.

Actually taking a moment to look, the only Decepticon TM left is Fangry (and maybe Skytread, he was in the six pack). I suppose if they do Kickback he'd come with Wilder then, unless they finally decide to do Rumble.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:I'm hoping it's significant that Kup and Hot Rod's titles include the term Target Master.

Not to be a downer, but it isnt. As you can see from waht I posted above, they are the same price as all the other "targetmasers" Takara released. They just put that name because Kup and Hot Rod were targetmasters in G1 and now once again come with a transforming gun accessory.