Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething

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A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #25

Free of any explicit spoilers, but some may be unintentionally implied.
Transformers News: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething
I'll drink to that

Sometimes I find the best way to start saying "goodbye" is to get straight to business.

For this review, sharing some context for this final issue of Lost Light may be an appropriate starting point. For those keeping up with the series you'll know that issue 24 left us with most of the series' main plots resolved. This finale serves as a way to put a bow on some other points of unfinished business while also providing a coda to show just where things go once the dust has settled. The biggest questions still to be answered are addressed for the most part, and even some yet-to-come events in IDW's other stories are alluded to in a telling way without venturing far into spoiler territory. That latter point is not the book's fault, but rather due to the chaotic release scheduling we've all come to be familiar with.

Transformers News: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething
It hasn't been long enough since Steins;Gate 0 for this

The primary story is set in the far flung future, where everyone that has survived to that point is older and sadder. It's just like real life, only with robots that turn into cars and stuff, and that allows the story to deliver some of the emotional beats the series has become so well known for.

The sincere, dedicated following this series has earned stems from that ability to present a narrative that allows for an escape into another world that retains a connectivity to its readers by examining, among many things, our relationships to others. Interpersonal, romantic, platonic, professional, friendly, or just plain casual, the Lost Light crew forged various bonds through their journey. What those are, were, could be, and could have been form the backbone of this finale, sparing no remorse for your feelings along the way.

Transformers News: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething
Had to know the wet blanket would show up

There's little left to really wrap up, and the biggest question on the minds of most readers probably has to do with how exactly this story might tie in to things going on elsewhere. This is answered early and allows the story to keep going, and ends up leaving some wonder in my mind anyhow about whether or not that question is actually addressed - but that's just me and it almost definitely was in its entirety.

The other one has to do with one of the central figures of the story since "Season 2" of More Than Meets The Eye began. A great deal of nuance is present in the approach to this plot, and unfortunately it crosses into the point of ambiguity. This may have been on purpose, or it could be that I just plain missed something. If that's the case, I'm happy to eat crow later because it's my only real critique of this issue, and even then it's more critical of the content than the delivery.

Transformers News: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething
Now if we can just get MP3 to save the day in Unicron 6

This is an ending that manages to do exactly what it needs to do, and it does so in a way that only this story with these characters at this moment could do. There's just enough of a twist to it to make you wonder "is it really over?" This occurs almost immediately after reaching the point of the issue where it appears that it truly is - goodbyes are said, farewells are made, and characters have again gone their separate ways. The mood received is comparable to one that might be felt on the last day of school, or at the last meeting at a soon-to-be-departed job, or even while writing the last review about your favorite comic book series of all time.

It's the end and it's ok to be a little sad, but it's better to be glad that it happened.

Transformers News: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething
You won't believe who gets to say something! Well, even moreso than in this panel.

Jack Lawrence returns for the finale, a fitting assignment as this lands him at 16 issues of the series' 25 on primary line art duties. The output does not disappoint, with his signature adeptness with expressions allowing many character moments to come through precisely as they were intended. Joana Lafuente's colors are a wonderful complement as usual, with special attention and praise in order for the subtle but impossible to miss difference in palette between scenes set in the future and those occurring in the "present". Tom B. Long takes the dense script and places every bubble of text with care, creating a full package between art, color, and text which ensures these unique characters keep their voice. Peaks and valleys help even Swerve convey speech that hits more at home with its realism than a Swerve line ever possibly could otherwise.

The covers available are the "A" cover, featured in this review's news story thumbnail, with art by Lawrence and colors by Lafuente. Nick Roche's art and Josh Burcham's colors take up the traditional "B" cover spot, with editor David Mariotte making the spelling assist that will be forever appreciated turn into a reality. MTMTE regular Alex Milne provides an appropriately decorated RI cover with Josh Perez's colors shining as they always do. You can find images of all of those covers and full credits for the issue in our Vector Sigma Database page for Transformers: Lost Light #25, but please note it contains a character appearance list which may accidentally deliver spoilers.

Verdict
Transformers News: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething
I guess we have to deal with this now.

I've taken great care here to not spoil much. If you've been reading the series, you'll read this issue, and I think you'll be satisfied. There's always a desire to want more of a good thing, and while you might be left with a lingering question or two that won't ever be answered, there's always that faint chance that one day Simon Furman's old adage "it never ends" might apply here as well. Transformers was kept alive in part by the passion of its fans even after the Marvel comic ceased publication - twice, counting G2 - so every back issue, collected version, trade paperback, and fancy hardcover omnibus set (please?) you buy in the future helps keep the possibility of Team Rodimus having some future adventures alive.

"Chances of this actually working?" "Oh, astronomically slim." But with the backup content of Roberts' retrospective teasing at just enough as it relates to the murdered word, and considering other strange goings on such as the initially solicited 40 page, $4.99 sized issue not happening, it feels like there's something in a distant tomorrow. Maybe one day the Crusadercons will quip their way into our hearts all over again, and this reader would welcome that with open arms.

Right, a score. 5/5 if there were numbers, but no numbers are needed this time.

To James Roberts, Jack Lawrence, Joana Lafuente, Alex Milne, Nick Roche, Josh Burcham, Brendan Cahill, Casey Coller, E.J. Su, Priscilla Tramontano, Tom B. Long, Carlos Guzman, David Mariotte, Sara Pitre-Durocher, Andrew Griffith, John Barber, Hayato Sakamoto, Brian Shearer, JP Bove, Agustin Padilla, Jose Aviles, and the huge list of other creators that worked on Lost Light and More Than Meets The Eye that I'll kick myself for forgetting to mention here -

. :rodimusstar: You've Achieved Something :rodimusstar:
out of
Thank You!


So is it really over? Yes.

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Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1992893)
Posted by YoungPrime on November 6th, 2018 @ 9:13pm CST
Haven't read this issue and I miss the series already....
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1992940)
Posted by zfogshooterz on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:49am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Maverick69429 wrote:"We achieved something" Yeah, turning a beloved franchise into an SJW circle jerk. Good. Riddance.
Overall, that aspect wasn't too bad. It gave some extra layers to characters, even if it humanized them, thus taking away from the mystique of being alien shape-shifting robots. It was heavy-handed at times, but that's not due to the nature of the subject, but rather the inadequate talent of the writer. I got tired of Chromedome and Rewind pretty quickly, but I thought Cyclonus and Tailgate fit together well. I was a bit surprised by Ratchet and Drift, but I shouldn't have been. They spent most of the story together. I don't care about the rest. I do think that by the time the issue (and the story) comes to a close, Rodimus and Megatron will become at least conjunx amicae, if not more. As much as I was disappointed in the end of MTMTE, the overall story of the crew of the Lost Light has been pretty good. It won't beat the original Marvel comics, but it's better than what we had between 2006 and 2012. Just my opinion, of course.


I pretty much got used to Chromedome and Rewind. The way it was written for them in MTMTE was pretty good and established that I eventually became quite fine with them.

Then from reconstruction onwards, these stuff became rampant. Cyclonus and Tailgate, Anode and Lug, Blast-Off and Onslaught, Arcee and Aileron and now, Drift and Ratchet. I just find it so weird and personally it's really hard to get used to and I don't think I ever will.

Anode with Lug, Arcee with Aileron and the Two Combaticons I can look past. But Cyclonus, Tailgate and Drift, Ratchet? That would be a big NO from me. I liked them better during the time of MTMTE when they were just close buddies (with the exception of Chromedome and Rewind). Those kinds of stuffs was moderate back then.

Sorry, I don't normally want to do this but since this current universe/continuity is ending, might as well put my thoughts on what I feel about this subject. Just my two cents there.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1992945)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 7th, 2018 @ 5:06am CST
A great review Scotty, I'm really sad that this is coming to an end.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1992956)
Posted by ScottyP on November 7th, 2018 @ 7:27am CST
Obligatory follow-up given the review's contents - Mr. Roberts clarifies something for me, spoilers at link so be careful: https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/ ... 24768?s=19

YoungPrime wrote:Haven't read this issue and I miss the series already....
Curious to hear what you think after you've read it :)

ZeroWolf wrote:A great review Scotty, I'm really sad that this is coming to an end.
Thanks!
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993003)
Posted by Coptur on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:33am CST
I won't miss this comic but i'm happy others did enjoy it.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993013)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on November 7th, 2018 @ 11:40am CST
Though some arcs were rushed for the sake of ending the universe, this is probably one of the best stories we’ll ever get. It’s not often we get some fiction with actual depth and thought put into its deep universe. I just feel like the next comic series will lack so much of what made any of the IDW stories so great, that depth will be replaced with toy selling. We saw how unnatural that sat in continuity with their attempts to tie in Combiner Wars and Titans Return.

At least there’s two more issues in the IDWverse to tide us over for the year.

Here’s to the Crusadercons.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993019)
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2018 @ 12:45pm CST
I wasn’t very happy with this ending. Highlights were ratchets funeral and bits with Megatron. I was not happy with Rung being completely forgotten. I understand the reason but there’s photos of him! Wouldn’t Nautica remember him? Is this really a case of “we saved the universe! We don’t remember how though...”

Some things just left me bitter. Roller, Grimlock just leaving with the Scavengers, nickel being there is a total “alright we’re just gonna ignore this cold blooded killer.” The organics from Mederi, nightbeat. Nightbeats death that came was totally forgotten was something that irked me.

This final story and arc of this 7 year series just a giant let down for me.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993032)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:10pm CST
I understand that they're in different books, but the writers of both should have found a way to reunite Grimlock and the Dinobots. And I'm glad Rung is forgotten, I never liked the character.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993037)
Posted by Flashwave on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:16pm CST
I'm going to be the minority here, but I don't like this issue for one tiny but very important detail: EVERYTHING HAPPENED OFF PANEL.

Ratchet died? Off Panel.

Megatron's Sentancing? Off Panel. (although we can infer, I guess.)

And I realize that they can't risk spoiling the ends of OP and Unicron I guess, though that didn't stop Unicron., but I was sorta hoping for something that showed the pieces going together rather than telling. I was expecting more of something happening on New Cybertron though than just telling us about flashbacks.

It occurs to me though that the Warren flung them into the far flung future, so there really isn't any way for the LL to interact with present day Earth.

I dont hate it, once yuo gwet past all the stuff that we were told happened, this issue does put a nice bow on the important things. I'm gonna miss MTMTE for its willingness to be something different than a Transformers Book and doing it well. It blazed a new trail and had fun with itself while doing it. That's not always rthe easiest thing to do. I can't wait for what IDW does next but it won't be Lost Light, and frankly I am hoping they don't try to make it so.

I pointed it out when we saw the cover that ratchet was holding the Energon flowers from Necroworld. And noromally one cannot infer anyrthing from COvers, but good god the one time Roberts put it right there in front of ud and we go "Yeah, don't read into that too much."

Megatron's glowing eyes string down Prowl at the end as Prowl twists the knife in Rodimus' back more and more was a nice touch. "I'll go willlingly, but leave my Friends alone"

Too many awesome moments int he BAr Scene to mentiont hem all. Defiantely good for a studdy Misfire under the table with FM's Leg Guns, Ten's models, Bluestreak (didn't they blow him up to prove a point?) Whirl's shirt as a nod tot he Marvel Comic's Mockingbird fallout.

Poor Hot Rod, he starts off alone in the IDW verse forced to kill his City. Loses his team to a Traitor, now has to watch his ship, his home, be reclaimed as all of his friends drive off, leaving him alone.

Fitting to his story, I guess, but I can't believe they forgot ol' whats his name. Rhymes with Eyebrows... RIng? Ladder? Nice to see bits and pieces of him in the Luna 1 bots.

Whirl and Cyclonus, starts with a hug, emds with a hug.
zfogshooterz wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Maverick69429 wrote:"We achieved something" Yeah, turning a beloved franchise into an SJW circle jerk. Good. Riddance.
Overall, that aspect wasn't too bad. It gave some extra layers to characters, even if it humanized them, thus taking away from the mystique of being alien shape-shifting robots. It was heavy-handed at times, but that's not due to the nature of the subject, but rather the inadequate talent of the writer. I got tired of Chromedome and Rewind pretty quickly, but I thought Cyclonus and Tailgate fit together well. I was a bit surprised by Ratchet and Drift, but I shouldn't have been. They spent most of the story together. I don't care about the rest. I do think that by the time the issue (and the story) comes to a close, Rodimus and Megatron will become at least conjunx amicae, if not more. As much as I was disappointed in the end of MTMTE, the overall story of the crew of the Lost Light has been pretty good. It won't beat the original Marvel comics, but it's better than what we had between 2006 and 2012. Just my opinion, of course.


I pretty much got used to Chromedome and Rewind. The way it was written for them in MTMTE was pretty good and established that I eventually became quite fine with them.

Then from reconstruction onwards, these stuff became rampant. Cyclonus and Tailgate, Anode and Lug, Blast-Off and Onslaught, Arcee and Aileron and now, Drift and Ratchet. I just find it so weird and personally it's really hard to get used to and I don't think I ever will.

Anode with Lug, Arcee with Aileron and the Two Combaticons I can look past. But Cyclonus, Tailgate and Drift, Ratchet? That would be a big NO from me. I liked them better during the time of MTMTE when they were just close buddies (with the exception of Chromedome and Rewind). Those kinds of stuffs was moderate back then.

Sorry, I don't normally want to do this but since this current universe/continuity is ending, might as well put my thoughts on what I feel about this subject. Just my two cents there.

In general, I agree with your sentiments here not just on IDW but in most stories and tv shows.When I first Saw Drift/Ratchet it got a big NO from me too, and I said as much. But the pieces were there all the way back to "How to say Goodbye" when Ratchet makes a figure of Drift for Ten's Display and says something to the effect of "We all miss him. Some of us didn't realize just how much" and it underline that those two' banter and bicker about Science vs. Religion in MTMTE, LL, and the Drift series betrayed a deeper truth of respect. They didn't agree with each other, on anything. But they appreciated each other's convictions. That's an important lesson even in friendship, but romantic stories have been built on less.

For Cyclonus and Tailgate, the only real wrinkle I see is that these are two characters who never interacted in previous Media. But they built both characters stpries so thoroughly, and they both brought out great arcs in the other that I wouldnt have it any other way.

Anode and Lug sorta bothers me in a different way, but they were introduced together as a Couple, even if one of them was a hallucination or memory, so that's just what they are.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993038)
Posted by Flashwave on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:19pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I understand that they're in different books, but the writers of both should have found a way to reunite Grimlock and the Dinobots. And I'm glad Rung is forgotten, I never liked the character.

If I remember right though, the last time the Dinobots saw Grimlock, they were not his biggest fans. Though I am reasonably confident in saying I think they might work past that, because Grimlock is still a Dinobot.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993050)
Posted by Burn on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:57pm CST
The way this issue jumped all over the place made it hard for me to understand what the hell was going on. I kept wondering if I'd missed the previous issue, which it turns out I hadn't.

One minute a character is dead, the next he's alive ... another has forgotten how to transform and then a few pages later he's up and about in robot mode, promises were made, then not carried through.

I expected it all to end as some dream sequence, but it didn't. Instead, rather than this being the total end of the universe, they found a way to bring them back if they choose to.

There were things I didn't like, and even Roberts addressed that in his "Author's Note" admits to seeding plots that wouldn't play out for five years. And that's been my biggest annoyance with this big, expecting to remember some tiny little thing from five years ago.

I enjoyed it for it's humour. I enjoyed it for Ultra Magnus, for Whirl, for how much characterisation was given to so many characters.

The entire story of Megatron, rising up against injustice, his fight turning into full scale war that lasted millions of years, losing his way only to realise how far he had fallen, and then rising again to find redemption in another universe. Some may find his turn hard to swallow, and hey, I was right there with them, but when you play it out from beginning to end, it's a fantastic tale.

To me, the series had it's problems, but it also had some amazing moments, and you simply cannot ignore the fact this is the longest running Transformers series, more so in an era where the big two constantly reboot their books nearly every year, it's longevity is a testament to how well the books were received by the fans.

It will be hard to top.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993061)
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CST
Flashwave wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I understand that they're in different books, but the writers of both should have found a way to reunite Grimlock and the Dinobots. And I'm glad Rung is forgotten, I never liked the character.

If I remember right though, the last time the Dinobots saw Grimlock, they were not his biggest fans. Though I am reasonably confident in saying I think they might work past that, because Grimlock is still a Dinobot.



They ended on good terms. Their was a lot of tension but by the end of Maximun dinobots they understood their bonds were stronger than the problems they had and forgave Grimlock and Grimlock took full responsibility for their alleged abandonment of the autobots
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993071)
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2018 @ 4:29pm CST
The one thing that’s really left unanswered is: how the hell did scorponok lose the Magnificance and it wound up on Troja Major?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993105)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on November 7th, 2018 @ 6:54pm CST
I'm going to miss the hell out of it. Yeah, there were things that happened off panel, but... those things don't really matter. What matters is the "other" ship. The one that gets away. The one that is off exploring. They are having their adventures still. That was a different Ratchett, a different Rodimus, and a different Megatron.

One ship is destroyed and the pieces put to use to make other ships (a bit of a metaphor for what will happen to the comic as a whole if you think about it). But the second ship... it's still out there, having adventures. That's the real ending.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993189)
Posted by Big Grim on November 8th, 2018 @ 6:56am CST
Loved the issue though it was a bit tough to follow. Them forgetting Rung sucks after his message to them last issue.

All in all though, I'm gonna mess the bejeesus outta this comic and this crew.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993190)
Posted by Coptur on November 8th, 2018 @ 6:59am CST
I liked Autobot Megatron at the time but have grown to dislike it and the entire IDW Origin of Megatron.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993194)
Posted by DarkEnergon on November 8th, 2018 @ 8:14am CST
I'll just throw out there that this is the one comic I read full series. The one I bought every issue for. Not always the day they came out - there were some dry spells there in the run - but no other comics have been able to maintain that suspense and interest for me.

I love characters - and I think most of us who liked Transformers and GI Joe liked them because there were so many different types of characters.

In this series, and curiously, only since the caricatured portrayals in the original cartoon, the dynamics between all those different types of characters were explored and had fun with. Not just how their personalities impact plot - but how they impact each other, and that alone is often amusing and engaging.

I'll thank Roberts for getting me to like Rodimus, for creating Tarn, for awesome awesome Whirl, Nautica, Skids, Megatron, Ravage, Spinister.

I'll thank Roberts for planting details that always eventually meant something. Even if rushed and somewhat incomprehensible without tfwiki, the bits and pieces almost always added up to something, and when you actually recognize that callback to something 30 issues ago, it's a fun feeling.

I was able to read this series with my 10-yr-old, now 12 son for the past two years, and loved being able to talk about the twists and try to make sense of things with him.

The series was not without risks or turns that backfired into groans or disinterest, but the characters were the glue, and the references to real life, the ability to present the same things we deal with today in a fun way that still enables me to see things differently was really masterful. Even the last issue - I didn't put together how meta it was - I couldn't really follow what was going on - but then, getting to reread it is rewarding. Comics have to be a bit like poetry - condense a lot using a few word clouds and images. So, going back to reread them, you kind of have to. Which is also great.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993201)
Posted by Ironhidensh on November 8th, 2018 @ 9:07am CST
Burn wrote:
The entire story of Megatron, rising up against injustice, his fight turning into full scale war that lasted millions of years, losing his way only to realize how far he had fallen, and then rising again to find redemption in another universe. Some may find his turn hard to swallow, and hey, I was right there with them, but when you play it out from beginning to end, it's a fantastic tale.


I started reading MTMTE at the start of this story line. I had more or less ignored the comics since the end of Dreamwave, and this was my jumping back in point. I had issues with it at first, but those issues were because I was starting to like Megatron, and the real world in me said that was wrong.

But it wasn't, because in the fantasy land of comics, redemption from anything is possible, and that is an amazing thing.

After falling for MTMTE, I quickly went back, and got caught up on all of IDWverse, as confusing as it could be, it helped to be taking it in all at once. The IDWverse, with MTMTE at its front, has since become my all time favorite Transformers continuity.

All because of the MTMTE/LL stories.

This final issue was, to me, perfect. I liked how we got to see the two different endings: one happy, one not so much. It symbolized what comics are to me: an escape from reality. Our Crusadercons escaped the ho-hum life by making a duplicate and continuing on a never ending adventure. Goddamn, it doesn't get much better than that.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993235)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 8th, 2018 @ 12:37pm CST
Question: do the duplicate crew know that they're a duplicate? I mean, it doesn't make them any less real, but do they have the memories they had before the quantum jump? This may have been explained previously, and just don't remember it.

I forgot to mention this last time, but I was glad to see the Protectobots alive and well.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #25 #WeAchievedSomething (1993243)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 8th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CST
Coptur wrote:I liked Autobot Megatron at the time but have grown to dislike it and the entire IDW Origin of Megatron.

Out of curiosity, why don't you like the IDW origin of him? I think it's fantastic and shows his good intentions twisted. He's much more three dimensional then any other megs we've seen.

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