Reviews for Rise of the Beasts Battle Changers Rhinox and Mirage with Size Comparisons
Tuesday, April 11th, 2023 12:28AM CDT
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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think Mirage is supposed to be part of Wave 02 but with the way figures are being released, who knows? Regardless, Mirage is a really fun, simple transforming interpretation of the character in the film. The flip-out weapon gimmick is fun and doesn't take away from the rest of the figure. I'd like to see the Battle Changer Class transcend the movie line and become the new entry point class in the future.
And here are review for Optimus and Bumblebee if you need a refresher.
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Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2023 @ 12:46am CDT




And for people wanting to see what else was at that same Toysrus, here you go:



Posted by Fortress_Maximus on April 11th, 2023 @ 12:48am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 11th, 2023 @ 12:56am CDT
Don't forget this review has Prime and two of the three Battle Masters
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2023 @ 1:03am CDT
Speaking of articulation, if you are curious to know how articulated the real Smash and Change toy is, here is a review for you below (spoiler alert: it has 0 points of articulation). We do get a good size comparison though.
Enjoy all the videos!
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2023 @ 6:51am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Man that TRU has SOME older releases.
Don't forget this review has Prime and two of the three Battle Masters
Haven't forgotten, it's gonna be in the battle masters review roundup
Posted by ouraziel on April 11th, 2023 @ 7:40am CDT
Posted by Overcracker on April 11th, 2023 @ 9:34am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....




I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?
Posted by Siger on April 11th, 2023 @ 10:21am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2023 @ 10:42am CDT
Siger wrote:Smash and change Primal looks so much better than the voyager version. Sad.
It's the colours, right?
ouraziel wrote:I know this line is meant for kids and kids often like gimmicks, but I really really hate them. It's almost always a sacrifice between the actual figure and it's "feature". I don't really think Hasbro realizes that even to kids these figures don't seem to sell as well as the mainline ones.
Well as with the Bumblebee film toyline, these gimmicks are the mainline. However, we also get voyagers and deluxes in this mainline, which we didn't last time. So it's a big improvement and that means that there's no sacrifice anymore since you have the unhindered figures sold side by side, so no one misses out or loses out. No sacrificing, just more product for everyone

Overcracker wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....![]()
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I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?
People thought that too but it looks too simplistic for a SS toy, plus I think the contrasting colours are more for a toy marketted just at kids. Apparently, the toy she turns into is Ultimate Optimus Primal, part of the mainline.
Posted by Siger on April 11th, 2023 @ 10:50am CDT
It's the colours, right?
Yeah, and proportions. Voyager's got a tiny head.
Posted by Overcracker on April 11th, 2023 @ 11:50am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....![]()
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I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?
People thought that too but it looks too simplistic for a SS toy, plus I think the contrasting colours are more for a toy marketted just at kids. Apparently, the toy she turns into is Ultimate Optimus Primal, part of the mainline.
I don't see them going to the trouble of giving it opening hands and wrist swivels just for a large toy for kids. But, I guess we'll have to wait an see what it turns out to be.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 11th, 2023 @ 1:24pm CDT
It'll likely be along the lines of the Ultimate class toy that were released in the Cyberverse line. Large and imposing, but basic and brick-like.Overcracker wrote:william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....![]()
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I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?
People thought that too but it looks too simplistic for a SS toy, plus I think the contrasting colours are more for a toy marketted just at kids. Apparently, the toy she turns into is Ultimate Optimus Primal, part of the mainline.
I don't see them going to the trouble of giving it opening hands and wrist swivels just for a large toy for kids. But, I guess we'll have to wait an see what it turns out to be.
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2023 @ 2:02pm CDT
Siger wrote:It's the colours, right?
Yeah, and proportions. Voyager's got a tiny head.
Ah, especially for the gorilla mode, yeah. I remember being put off by that profile shot of the gorilla mode, it does seem more cohesive as a whole with the smash and change toy.
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2023 @ 2:22pm CDT
For those still unsure whether or not they are worth a pick up, we have rounded up some reviews of these three toys. Enjoy!
Posted by Siger on April 11th, 2023 @ 4:37pm CDT
Ah, especially for the gorilla mode, yeah. I remember being put off by that profile shot of the gorilla mode, it does seem more cohesive as a whole with the smash and change toy.
Yessir, gorillas have pretty big noggins IRL.
Posted by Siger on April 11th, 2023 @ 5:07pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on April 11th, 2023 @ 5:40pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It'll likely be along the lines of the Ultimate class toy that were released in the Cyberverse line. Large and imposing, but basic and brick-like.Overcracker wrote:william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Welll... ok... uhmmm... well... that's.... a... uhhmm... a thing....![]()
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I am intrigued by the toy the chose to use for that though.... Leader Class SS?
People thought that too but it looks too simplistic for a SS toy, plus I think the contrasting colours are more for a toy marketted just at kids. Apparently, the toy she turns into is Ultimate Optimus Primal, part of the mainline.
I don't see them going to the trouble of giving it opening hands and wrist swivels just for a large toy for kids. But, I guess we'll have to wait an see what it turns out to be.
Well, looking at the ad, it has opening fingers, wrist swivels, elbows, shoulder joints, what looks like a waist swivel. So not very brick like... but I get your point.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 11th, 2023 @ 7:53pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2023 @ 8:59pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So I went to my Target, and there wasn't much there. All there was, was one BM Cheetor and the Beast Armor figures. Optimus Primal had the alligator removed and replaced with one of those cheap vinyl dinosaur figures, I'm not sure they're selling those at Target. So I came home and made a large order from Amazon. All I need now is the Voyagers and the one Alligator Battle Master. My question is, what else is out there? Do we have a rundown of waves 1 and 2? My gut tells me that due to the delay, both waves are going to be pushed out faster than we think and some things might get lost in the shuffle.
Good question, I will make a list
Posted by william-james88 on April 11th, 2023 @ 9:59pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So I went to my Target, and there wasn't much there. All there was, was one BM Cheetor and the Beast Armor figures. Optimus Primal had the alligator removed and replaced with one of those cheap vinyl dinosaur figures, I'm not sure they're selling those at Target. So I came home and made a large order from Amazon. All I need now is the Voyagers and the one Alligator Battle Master. My question is, what else is out there? Do we have a rundown of waves 1 and 2? My gut tells me that due to the delay, both waves are going to be pushed out faster than we think and some things might get lost in the shuffle.
Here's what's in the line. Looking through it, the stuff that we didn't news yet that you should have access to are the converting masks and the remaining flex changers. I'm currently doing a round up of the beast combiners.
Core Deluxe (all out at once but not found in US yet)
Wave 1
Airazor
Bumblebee
Cheetor
Wave 2
Autobot Mirage
Nightbird
Wheeljack
Voyager Class (all at once but not found in US yet)
Wave 1
Optimus Primal
Optimus Prime
Wave 2
Rhinox
Beast Battle Masters (all released)
Wave 1
Cheetor
Rhinox
Skullcruncher
Battle Changers (the waves in this one are unclear, US got the first 3 listed)
Bumblebee
Optimus Prime
Rhinox
Autobot Mirage
Scourge
Beast Weaponizers (all at once, but only wave 1 has been found in US so far)
Wave 1
Optimus Primal & Arrowstripe
Optimus Prime & Chainclaw
Wave 2
Wheeljack & Rhinox
Beast Combiners (only wave 1 spotted anywhere)
Wave 1
Bumblebee & Snarlsaber
Arcee & Silverfang
Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
Wave 2
Scourge & Predacon Scorponok
Blaster Optimus Prime Blaster (released)
Converting Masks Bumblebee Optimus Primal (released)
Smash Changer (released all at once but only wave 1 found in US)
Wave 1
Optimus Primal
Optimus Prime
Wave 2
Rhinox
Beast Mode (not released in US yet)
Beast Mode Bumblebee
Beast Mode Optimus Prime
Flex Changers (released in US)
Bumblebee
Cheetor
Nightbird
Titan Changers (released in US, only Cheetor is new)
Cheetor
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Exclusives
Deluxe Scorponok
2 Jungle Mission 3 packs
Smash Changer Scourge
Spark Racers Barricade Bumblebee Optimus Prime
Spark Chargers Battletrap Bumblebee Megatron
Larger toys (Nitro series) Starscream Optimus Prime
Posted by BIGGUY007 on April 12th, 2023 @ 12:02am CDT


Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 12th, 2023 @ 12:11am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2023 @ 12:16am CDT
BIGGUY007 wrote:Man, I was so looking forward to getting ROTB Wheeljack. He would have been a bought on site figure, but looking at the pictures. I’m kinda let down. You would think Volkswagen would have given them permission to use an actual Samba Panel Van as Jackie’s toy Alt. Mode, seeing how Volkswagen owns Porsche. And since VW gave them permission with making a Beetle Bumblebee toy when the Bumblebee Movie came out. I hope there is a better looking Alt. Mode, because I’m not a fan of the toy’s vehicle form. After seeing those pictures, he’s going to be a clearance buy now. What a complete let down!
The toy you posted is from the mainline where none of the cars look like their licensed selves. We have to wait for the reveal of Studio Series Wheeljack to see if he will get a licensed alt mode or not.
Also, just an FYI, one car company owning another has no bearing in the world of licensing since licensing agreements are solely with the individual company (car make).
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 12th, 2023 @ 12:45am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Siger wrote:It's the colours, right?
Yeah, and proportions. Voyager's got a tiny head.
Ah, especially for the gorilla mode, yeah. I remember being put off by that profile shot of the gorilla mode, it does seem more cohesive as a whole with the smash and change toy.
And for our fandom especially, Gorilla-formers + too-small-heads = ANIMORPHS flashbacks!


Doubly appropriate after that commercial.
Posted by noctorro on April 12th, 2023 @ 4:41am CDT
Here in Holland we have mego toys... 3 cyberverse figures and a tiny bit of mission fleet.
Besides that the marvel figures with the elastics in the limbs. ... we got nothing man.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 12th, 2023 @ 8:42am CDT
50$can total.
Why?
I tried to cancel that Amazon order.
I can't.
It's coming.
I'll now have to smash that ape.

Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2023 @ 2:51pm CDT


Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2023 @ 3:33pm CDT
Rise Of The Beasts Nitro Starscream
Rise Of The Beasts Nitro Optimus Prime
Rise Of The Beasts Nitro Bumblebee
Rise Of The Beasts Power Plus Battletrap
Rise Of The Beasts Power Plus Megatron
Rise Of The Beasts Speed Barricade
Rise Of The Beasts Speed Optimus Prime
Rise Of The Beasts Speed Bumblebee
Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Beast Weaponizers Arcee & Cheetor 2-Pack
Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Beast Weaponizers Wheeljack & Rhinox 2-Pack
Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Flex-Changers Cheetor
Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Battle Master Optimus Primal

























































Posted by Whifflefire on April 12th, 2023 @ 4:46pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:For anyone wondering why I used Krok in that video review, well that Skullcruncher makes for an EXCELLENT Gatoraider.
I was thinking the same thing. Might have to go find myself a Krok.
Posted by Seibertron on April 12th, 2023 @ 4:55pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 12th, 2023 @ 4:55pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on April 12th, 2023 @ 5:32pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you passed the first time then I highly recommend those Energon Igniters. They're really fun to race around and the transformations aren't that bad. I'm down for Battletrap and Starscream as the original Ironhide and Blitzwing were two of the best figures of the line.
I've got all of the original versions of the ones that are being redeco'ed. Just hard to keep track of what's coming out for this new movie line.
Posted by Overcracker on April 12th, 2023 @ 5:41pm CDT

Super sleek cheetah mode there.




Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 12th, 2023 @ 6:01pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you passed the first time then I highly recommend those Energon Igniters. They're really fun to race around and the transformations aren't that bad. I'm down for Battletrap and Starscream as the original Ironhide and Blitzwing were two of the best figures of the line.
I've got all of the original versions of the ones that are being redeco'ed. Just hard to keep track of what's coming out for this new movie line.
Don't feel bad, I'm more confused than a baby in a topless club.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on April 12th, 2023 @ 7:42pm CDT
Whifflefire wrote:william-james88 wrote:For anyone wondering why I used Krok in that video review, well that Skullcruncher makes for an EXCELLENT Gatoraider.
I was thinking the same thing. Might have to go find myself a Krok.
The mold layout completely works for a Gatoraider redeco too. I 100% expect one at some point.
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2023 @ 11:00pm CDT
Core Deluxe: traditional deluxe class figures, not found in US yet.
Wave 1
Airazor
Bumblebee
Cheetor
Wave 2
Autobot Mirage
Nightbird
Wheeljack

Voyager Class: traditional voyager class figures, not found in US yet
Wave 1
Optimus Primal
Optimus Prime
Wave 2
Rhinox
Beast Battle Masters: targetmasters, which can work really well in other lines, only wave 1 released in US so far.
Wave 1
Cheetor
Rhinox
Skullcruncher
Wave 2
Optimus Primal
Airazor
Battle Changers: simplified figures between Scout and deluxe size, as you can see with Rhinox below. The waves in this one are unclear, the US got the first 3 listed so far.
Bumblebee
Optimus Prime
Rhinox
Autobot Mirage
Scourge
Beast Weaponizers: simple deluxe sized figures which come with a beast targetmaster, only wave 1 has been found in US so far.
Wave 1
Optimus Primal & Arrowstripe
Optimus Prime & Chainclaw
Wave 2
Wheeljack & Rhinox
Arcee & Cheetor
Beast Combiners: simple deluxe sized figures which come with a beast partner which turns into armour. Only wave 1 spotted so far in the US.
Wave 1
Bumblebee & Snarlsaber
Arcee & Silverfang
Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
Wave 2
Scourge & Predacon Scorponok
Blaster Optimus Prime Blaster (released)
Converting Masks Bumblebee, Optimus Primal (released)

Smash Changer: 3 step automorph figures and only wave 1 was found in the US so far.
Wave 1
Optimus Primal
Optimus Prime
Wave 2
Rhinox
Beast Mode: leader sized figures with electronics that have a third super mode which has beast elements (not released in US yet)
Beast Mode Bumblebee
Beast Mode Optimus Prime
Flex Changers: one step toys, all released in the US
Bumblebee
Cheetor
Nightbird
Titan Changers: leader sized figures with very simple conversions. All were released in the US but only Cheetor is a new mold.
Cheetor
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Exclusives
Deluxe Scorponok
2 Jungle Mission 3 packs
Smash Changer Scourge
Autobots Unite Speed Series Barricade, Bumblebee, Optimus Prime
Autobots Unite Power Plus Series Battletrap Bumblebee Megatron
Autobots Unite Nitro Series Starscream, Optimus Prime
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2023 @ 11:30pm CDT
Bumblebee
Arcee
And we also have another review of both those sets from Chuckdawg1999 who also had this to say about them:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you liked Optimus Primal then there's more of the same here with Arcee and Bumblebee, literally, their beast partners share tooling. Obviously, Arcee and Bee are far more involved with their transformations than Primal. Each set offers its own positives and negatives so it's ultimately up to you which character you like the best.
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2023 @ 11:48pm CDT
Remember, these toys are all in the mainline. In Studio Series, we will get a leader class Optimus Primal, a voyager class Rhinox and a voyager class Optimus Prime but that last one will be a Target exclusive.
Posted by Fortress_Maximus on April 13th, 2023 @ 2:28am CDT
Disappointed the Smash Changer of Optimus is just a repackage from Spark series?
Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 13th, 2023 @ 9:37am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 13th, 2023 @ 11:20am CDT
More like the Cyberverse release was a "pre-package" of this one, since Hasbro did that because the original plan was to sell ROTB toys in Cyberverse packaging last year, but only that one figure saw release.Fortress_Maximus wrote:Voyager Prime looks good will get soon.
Disappointed the Smash Changer of Optimus is just a repackage from Spark series?
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on April 13th, 2023 @ 2:06pm CDT
Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 13th, 2023 @ 2:57pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2023 @ 5:23pm CDT
MeGrimlock78 wrote:Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?
Maybe a later wave, I'd really love that
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on April 13th, 2023 @ 5:39pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:MeGrimlock78 wrote:Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?
Maybe a later wave, I'd really love that
Are we sure there will be a later wave? I believe the Bee movie line was just a single wave, and we are already past that. I would have preferred to get the 2 weaponizer 2-pack battle masters on their own, but didn't want to chance missing out if a future wave doesn't happen.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 13th, 2023 @ 6:09pm CDT
MeGrimlock78 wrote:Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?
Maybe, depends on how well the line sells and if they need more product to sell.
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2023 @ 6:09pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:william-james88 wrote:MeGrimlock78 wrote:Since Wave 2 of the Weaponizer 2 Packs have the Wave 1 Battle Masters, would it be logical to assume the Wave 1 Weaponizer Battle Masters will be released on their own at some point?
Maybe a later wave, I'd really love that
Are we sure there will be a later wave? I believe the Bee movie line was just a single wave, and we are already past that. I would have preferred to get the 2 weaponizer 2-pack battle masters on their own, but didn't want to chance missing out if a future wave doesn't happen.
I know there is a second wave, with Primal and Airazor, but I don't know beyond that. Though if I had to wager, I would think those won't get released individually.
Hey, since you have these toys, can you take some images of Prime and Primal next to deluxes from the legacy line (or any other generations line) just to get an idea of their size?
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2023 @ 7:47pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:When the masks were first revealed I was intrigued with them and had a few questions; how would they work, fit, and feel? Well, I'm happy with both of them but I really enjoy the Optimus Primal mask that much more. Transformation is relatively simple, any issues might come from the ratcheting joints having to be worked into the right positions. Surprisingly the straps don't really get in the way and tuck nicely into the back of the figures. The price might be a little off-putting so if you can only get one, Primal is the way to go.
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2023 @ 7:59pm CDT
Let us know what you think.







Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 13th, 2023 @ 9:48pm CDT