Robot Kingdom has Readily Available Haslab Victory Sabers for $200 for Non US Buyers

william-james88 wrote:They ordered more. Robot Kingdom ordered 750 more.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:They ordered more. Robot Kingdom ordered 750 more.

So Robot Kingdom sell Victory Saber for 200$US.

WHY?

That's just 20$ more than what Hasbro Pulse charged. I don't think they got a group order deal at all. Factor in import taxes and shipping and they may barely make 2$ of profit for each VS sets. Why bother going through all that trouble for peanuts? They should have sold each sets for 250$ or 300$ to make it worth their while, no matter how long it would take to sell them.

Maybe they just don't want to store those sets for long because storage cost money after all. So they decided to do a clearance sale right from the start to fix their mistake. Maybe once they only have a dozen or so units in stock, they will increase the price to at least turn some profit.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:They ordered more. Robot Kingdom ordered 750 more.

So Robot Kingdom sell Victory Saber for 200$US.

WHY?

That's just 20$ more than what Hasbro Pulse charged. I don't think they got a group order deal at all. Factor in import taxes and shipping and they may barely make 2$ of profit for each VS sets. Why bother going through all that trouble for peanuts? They should have sold each sets for 250$ or 300$ to make it worth their while, no matter how long it would take to sell them.

Maybe they just don't want to store those sets for long because storage cost money after all. So they decided to do a clearance sale right from the start to fix their mistake. Maybe once they only have a dozen or so units in stock, they will increase the price to at least turn some profit.

RobotKingdom is known for having cheap prices in general. It's the higher shipping costs that they make back their money from.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I want to like this set more, but the spark has fizzled out. It's just a boring set.

Grahf_ wrote:So either Robot Kingdom ordered more than the preorders they received or they somehow received the ones from Zavvi. It sucks that so many people got what should've been guaranteed preorders cancelled but at least they might be able to still get the set.

I really think that the Haslabs should be made to order preorders to unlock what they unlock but then they also make a run of figures beyond that so that others can still purchase them. Maybe have it so that the preorders through the Haslab system are cheaper by like $20 or so or something. It just really sucks that people who missed out for whatever real world reason can't get the figure without paying aftermarket prices. For instance and going on as if the Engine of Vengeance campaign actually funded, I like many others were being affected by a hurricane. I would've liked to have backed it but I wasn't able to. I happened to be affected by the bad job market for both Galactus and the Sentinel and now don't have either. It just sucks sometimes but again, I hope that those who's orders were cancelled can still somehow get them.

I figured that us not getting replies for problems with Victory Saber might have had something to do with the time of year. I would imagine they've been bombarded with more than quite a few questions. It's always slow around this time when I have to contact them about anything.

The problem with mine is that the port for the thigh tab on one of Victory Leo's legs was broken before being put in the packaging. So when I go to move the leg outward, it moves at the transformation hinge/hip cannon instead of at the actual outward hip joint. I've tightened up the transformation hinge with some water based polyurethane so that things work mostly as intended but still, my piece is broken and I'd like a replacement. Everything else was fine though.

On a side note I just got the upgrade kit for Victory Saber from Ebay in today. The filler pieces for the cannons fit well two of the many pieces were a little too snug though. The thigh fillers for Victory Leo went in fine. Nothing has or will fall out as they're sized very well for where they all need to go. The new arms for Saber work well too. The color match is pretty spot on. The ball socket for the fists work fine as do the elbows and the bicep swivel. Again, nothing is loose. The forearm hinges are fine and lock into place when closed. The forearms are now a little wider than the stock arms but this did not affect any mode. The arms even still lock into place for jet mode. Just for those who were curious about the set and/or didn't want to get the DNA kit as it doesn't have forearm covers for Saber nor fillers for Victory Leo's thighs. Although I just feel like those shouldn't have been an issue to begin with. Those things and better outward shoulder articulation for Star Saber should've been included in even if it meant that the set was $200 instead. There's no excuse for that in a figure that's made to order at what is essentially a made up price point. Ultimately these are mostly very minor problems overall but still, they shouldn't exist on this kind of figure.

morphobots wrote:Hopefully some of those fans in Taiwan can grab one of these.

We are currently offering you two options to resolve the matter – 1) returning the product for a full refund or 2) returning the product for a replacement at no cost to you (to be delivered in 2023, exact date to be confirmed). Details for both options are outlined below:

Process to Return for a Full Refund

1) Reply to this email expressing your request for a refund with photos containing the following:
• Your HasLab Transformers Victory Saber, including all accessories (.jpeg or .gif)
• As well as a note containing your Hasbro Pulse order number and Consumer Care incident number
• Your complete mailing address & phone number

2) Once this information has been received and verified, our team will issue a pre-paid Postal Service shipping label to return the Victory Saber. The item, including ALL accessories, is required to process your refund:
• 8.5-inch VStar Figure
• 5-inch Saber figure
• 1-inch Brainmaster figure
• Victory Leo figure
• Holi figure
• Fire Figure
• All accessories (weapons, stands, etc.)


Process to Return for a Product Replacement

If you wish to proceed with a full replacement product, please reply to this email confirming that decision.

In the coming months, we will reach out to you to provide the estimated shipping date of this HasLab Transformers Victory Saber replacement product, and the next steps on returning your HasLab Transformers Victory Saber.

GrangerPerry wrote:There’s 26,211 Victory Sabers right now. If less than 15% backers replace their figure there will be 30,000 Victory Sabers. If these were a regular release in stores I doubt people would be as sensitive to issues. That would be funny if they end up with more victory sabers made then say the ark or something like it

Flashwave wrote:

GrangerPerry wrote:There’s 26,211 Victory Sabers right now. If less than 15% backers replace their figure there will be 30,000 Victory Sabers. If these were a regular release in stores I doubt people would be as sensitive to issues. That would be funny if they end up with more victory sabers made then say the ark or something like it

I asked this when they started the campaign. No one that I saw had official production numbers but the estimate for Titans was north of 50k.

But I am in agreement that they probably could have pulled this off as a Titan at the higher production run and solved a lot of the issues involving expectation. They would have been hit with the "but it's not one huge dude, it's Teo smaller dudes with a bunch of stuff" that the Leader Class gets but I think it would have worked. And maybe the additional profit margin would ha e gotten them better protection for chrome parts in shipping.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

GrangerPerry wrote:There’s 26,211 Victory Sabers right now. If less than 15% backers replace their figure there will be 30,000 Victory Sabers. If these were a regular release in stores I doubt people would be as sensitive to issues. That would be funny if they end up with more victory sabers made then say the ark or something like it

I asked this when they started the campaign. No one that I saw had official production numbers but the estimate for Titans was north of 50k.

But I am in agreement that they probably could have pulled this off as a Titan at the higher production run and solved a lot of the issues involving expectation. They would have been hit with the "but it's not one huge dude, it's Teo smaller dudes with a bunch of stuff" that the Leader Class gets but I think it would have worked. And maybe the additional profit margin would ha e gotten them better protection for chrome parts in shipping.

I think the fact that it hit 25k means they would classify it as flop if only that many sold out of a 50k run, which would bode badly for Deathsaurus. There's also the matter of which corners would have been cut to make it a retail product.

cloudballoon wrote:I got the same email. I wonder where the shipping destination will be? The email is from the US, but I live in Canada. They might have me shipped to Montreal, Quebec.

It's still a poopy decision to go for the replacement (instead of Hasbro shipping me the missing V-Lock Cannon handle). Guess I'll reopen my Victory Saber & Deathsaurus at the same time...

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Bummer, I really just needed a new Saber only

VictoryRicko wrote:So what happens to people like me who bought him on ebay and have an issue? We won't have Hasbro Pulse invoices to submit.

william-james88 wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:I got the same email. I wonder where the shipping destination will be? The email is from the US, but I live in Canada. They might have me shipped to Montreal, Quebec.

It's still a poopy decision to go for the replacement (instead of Hasbro shipping me the missing V-Lock Cannon handle). Guess I'll reopen my Victory Saber & Deathsaurus at the same time...

This poopy decision is part of their standard approach to create an extra obstacle to deter people from taking action. Same way people make it harder to unsuscribe from stuff or get insurance money.

william-james88 wrote:

VictoryRicko wrote:So what happens to people like me who bought him on ebay and have an issue? We won't have Hasbro Pulse invoices to submit.

Contact them and see what they offer you

DeathReviews wrote:Are there any chances the defective versions will become MORE valuable over time, like old tyme stamps printed upside-down?

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Are there any chances the defective versions will become MORE valuable over time, like old tyme stamps printed upside-down?

No

o.supreme wrote:Even "Prototypes" that try to sell for high prices, I dont think are very successful. Defective Transformers wont gain value.

As for Haslab VS. I truly am sorry for anyone who has had QC issues, and I hope Hasbro makes it right replacing everyone's, not exchanging for value paid because the item itself is worth far more than a full refund. Still with 26K+ units, if only 1% had issues, that would be 260. I know there are multiple reports, but I know if mine were defective I'd be very vocal. I seriously doubt however the number of defective units is anywhere near 15%, if they were even 5% it would be an unmitigated disaster, its probably closer to 1%, hopefully less.

ZeroWolf wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Even "Prototypes" that try to sell for high prices, I dont think are very successful. Defective Transformers wont gain value.

As for Haslab VS. I truly am sorry for anyone who has had QC issues, and I hope Hasbro makes it right replacing everyone's, not exchanging for value paid because the item itself is worth far more than a full refund. Still with 26K+ units, if only 1% had issues, that would be 260. I know there are multiple reports, but I know if mine were defective I'd be very vocal. I seriously doubt however the number of defective units is anywhere near 15%, if they were even 5% it would be an unmitigated disaster, its probably closer to 1%, hopefully less.

Either way, I would expect Hasbro to keep a closer eye on that factory in future.

Did any of the other haslabs suffer from bad QC?

WeatherManNX01 wrote:My VS is one with the missing peg cutout on the Saber jet nose. I've not been paying attention — has there been a publicized DIY fix for this?

The only other issue I have is that the antennae on the helmet are very loose and floppy.

What is the timeline on sending back defective units? Do they let you keep it until the new one arrives, or do they want it now? If the former, I'd consider applying for a replacement, swap out the pieces I need, then send back the unwanted version, but I feel like we're not lucky enough for that.

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:There is no easy DIY fix for that if you don't know how to handle specific power tools. The entire hole is filled so you need to recreate a hole with a drill and then carve out a hole at the top with a hobby knife.

Also, Hasbro won't send you anything unless you send them your copy first.

WeatherManNX01 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:There is no easy DIY fix for that if you don't know how to handle specific power tools. The entire hole is filled so you need to recreate a hole with a drill and then carve out a hole at the top with a hobby knife.

Also, Hasbro won't send you anything unless you send them your copy first.

I was afraid of that.

I was afraid of that, too.

Well, crap.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

VictoryRicko wrote:So what happens to people like me who bought him on ebay and have an issue? We won't have Hasbro Pulse invoices to submit.

Contact them and see what they offer you

Pointless.
At best, they'll ask you to send back the whole thing so they can send something of "equal value" like a Rescue Bots playset.

God Sunstreaker wrote:Mine is still in package. Does anyone have a list of all the known issues? Maybe a link. I think all parts are there but after skimming this thread I am not so sure. I have kids and don't have much time so a bulletpoint list would be an amazing tool.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:They ordered more. Robot Kingdom ordered 750 more.

So Robot Kingdom sell Victory Saber for 200$US.

WHY?

That's just 20$ more than what Hasbro Pulse charged. I don't think they got a group order deal at all. Factor in import taxes and shipping and they may barely make 2$ of profit for each VS sets. Why bother going through all that trouble for peanuts? They should have sold each sets for 250$ or 300$ to make it worth their while, no matter how long it would take to sell them.

Maybe they just don't want to store those sets for long because storage costs money after all. So they decided to do a clearance sale right from the start to fix their mistake. Maybe once they only have a dozen or so units in stock, they will increase the price to at least turn some profit.

Immortal Starscream wrote:I wasn't sure if I was going to post about this or not, but I decided to go ahead and bite the bullet. I am not sure if I can in good faith continue to support haslabs going forward because of this. So I was one of the people who had issues with his Victory saber set. The box came shredded with as massive hole punched in it, and both Star Saber and Victory Leo had chips/scuffing in their chrome. So I opted for the product replacement. I almost missed the replacement, because the email that it has come available went to my spam folder.

So a couple weeks ago now, my replacement came in. The box this time was intact, but crinkled up around the edges and the corners were all smashed. Obviously this is due to the shipper being so tight and not any padding to protect it. I open it and immediately I see a chip in Star Saber's chrome in the exact same spot as the one I sent back. It is smaller and less noticeable, particularly if light is shining on it, but still there. Then I notice his antenna wont stay up. they just flop around loose. then, when I pull him out of the package, his arms flop around loose, and one falls off. His biceps weren't screwed together. They literally sent me an even more defective one to replace my slightly defective one. I should have just got the toyhax set and forgot about the box on the original.

I will say Leo was better overall, tighter joints, no chrome issues, and his knees hold together unlike my first one. Rather then send this one back, I just fixed it. I pushed the pin in on his antenna so now they are nice and tight, replaced and screwed together his arms, and will get the sticker set to fix his chest.
I sent in a complaint to hasbro, because they need to know this wont fly. I let my gojoe dragonfly go over this, and am now dreading how my hiss tank and deathsaurus will come.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:On a different, but sort of similar note, I messed with Victory Saber some more over the past week, since I was retooling my "big guy" shelves to add as well as rotate some combiners.

And sadly? I just don't like Victory Saber. He is at the back of the Big Guys shelf, mainly because he just isn't as much as I had hoped he'd be. He just doesn't excite me, and that makes me really sad.

I am hoping Deathsaurus is much better.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:On a different, but sort of similar note, I messed with Victory Saber some more over the past week, since I was retooling my "big guy" shelves to add as well as rotate some combiners.

And sadly? I just don't like Victory Saber. He is at the back of the Big Guys shelf, mainly because he just isn't as much as I had hoped he'd be. He just doesn't excite me, and that makes me really sad.

I am hoping Deathsaurus is much better.

They really didn't give us the figure we paid for and deserved. They were more concerned with it fitting in with the Legacy gimmick.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:On a different, but sort of similar note, I messed with Victory Saber some more over the past week, since I was retooling my "big guy" shelves to add as well as rotate some combiners.

And sadly? I just don't like Victory Saber. He is at the back of the Big Guys shelf, mainly because he just isn't as much as I had hoped he'd be. He just doesn't excite me, and that makes me really sad.

I am hoping Deathsaurus is much better.

They really didn't give us the figure we paid for and deserved. They were more concerned with it fitting in with the Legacy gimmick.

What Legacy gimmick? Does one of his weapons count as an energon weapon?

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:On a different, but sort of similar note, I messed with Victory Saber some more over the past week, since I was retooling my "big guy" shelves to add as well as rotate some combiners.

And sadly? I just don't like Victory Saber. He is at the back of the Big Guys shelf, mainly because he just isn't as much as I had hoped he'd be. He just doesn't excite me, and that makes me really sad.

I am hoping Deathsaurus is much better.

They really didn't give us the figure we paid for and deserved. They were more concerned with it fitting in with the Legacy gimmick.

What Legacy gimmick? Does one of his weapons count as an energon weapon?