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Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 11th, 2016 @ 8:57am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Looks like Ryan/Seibertron finally got his wish in today's episode of Rescue Bots with there being an enemy Cybertronian in this one (albeit, a Mini-Con rather than a Decepticon).
And it was another crossover with RID as the Mini-Con was a Cyclone and Sideswipe guest-starred.
With Sideswipe aware of what Cyclones are, this episode would logically have to come after the six RID shorts that formally introduced the Cyclones, as the second short had him unaware of what Cyclones were and needing to be told about them by Drift's Mini-Cons.
Additionally, Sideswipe sarcastically comments on both "Roll to the Rescue!" and "Power Up and Energize!" in regards to Bumblebee's own attempts to find a catchphrase, so this still takes place before the RID season 1 finale. Yet, Sideswipe also comments on the Bee Team's GroundBridge malfunctioning as though it's malfunctioned more than once before, meaning this episode must also come after at least both "Deep Trouble" and "The Champ".
Based on this, here's an update to the proposed RID season 1/RB season 4 timeline that I previously posted:
Pilot (Part 1)
Pilot (Part 2)
Trust Exercises / New Normal
More than Meets the Eye / Bridge Building
W.W.O.D.? / Arrivals
As the Kospego Commands! / Plus One
Collect 'Em All / Back to Virtual Reality
True Colors / Vanishing Returns
Rumble in the Jungle / Ghost in the Machine
Can You Dig It? / Enemy of My Enemy
Adventures in Bumblebee-Sitting! / Mayor May Not
Hunting Season / All Spark Day
Out of Focus / Part-Time Heroes
Sideways / The More Things Change... / The More Things Stay the Same
Even Robots Have Nightmares / Hot Rod Bot
Some Body, Any Body / King Burns
One of Our Mini-Cons Is Missing / Pizza Pi Party
Uninvited Guest
Deep Trouble /
The Champ /
Knock, Knock! / The Power of Dibs / Back and Forth / The Tragedy of Slipstream / A Level Playing Field / Two Plus Two Equals More
The Need for Speed
The Trouble with Fixit
Lockout
Similarly Different
The Buzz on Windblade
Ghosts and Impostors
Battlegrounds, Part 1
Battlegrounds, Part 2
Also, the latest episode of Robots in Disguise, "History Lessons" (whether it's considered season 2 episode 14 or season 3 episode 1), aired on Teletoon in Canada today. No idea if any Canadians recorded it or will upload said recording onto the Internet or not, though.
Oh yeah....i nearly forgot about that
so far...no success in finding the latest episode i half expected Youtube to have it(but doubtfull yet?) coz apparently it has Paralon in it
Posted by PrymeStriker on September 11th, 2016 @ 6:08pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 11th, 2016 @ 10:55pm CDT
What was really cool, design-wise, in this crossover is that Bounce (the Cyclone Mini-Con who appeared in the episode) was not only the same body-type as Ransack and Backtrack, but had a character model that literally looked like it was lifted straight out of the RID cartoon's art style. If he were to ever appear on RID, he'd virtually look exactly the same as he did on Rescue Bots, much like how Soundwave looked practically identical to his Prime cartoon design when he showed up in RID! Multi-show design synergy!PrymeStriker wrote:I'm actually interested in the RiD crossovers on Rescue Bots. Not that I'm really keeping up on that show, but I quite enjoy seeing Rescue Bot takes on RiD designs.
Though, on the other hand, Sideswipe's design was rather... unique, compared to his RID cartoon model. While his general look and silhouette were the same, he had a windshield design on his robot mode chest, which is odd considering how his RID cartoon model has his chest instead formed from his car hood. Even more inexplicable is that Sideswipe's Rescue Bots toy also has his car hood forming his robot chest, with the windshield ending up on the toy's back. Furthermore, Sideswipe's altmode in Rescue Bots looked to be based more directly on his RID cartoon altmode design, instead of his RB toy's altmode (which looks a little different from his RID cartoon altmode). So while Bounce got a design that looks (or would look) the same across both shows, Sideswipe instead got some artistic liberties for his RB cartoon design.
Posted by o.supreme on September 12th, 2016 @ 9:34am CDT
Anyway History Lessons was ok... I liked The idea of going back to the old base from TF Prime...would have been nice if Fowler was there as a cameo/tour guide...but oh well you cant have everything.. cant wait to see more and perhaps get a real perspective as to how much time has passed between Prime & RiD...
Also and It may be just me but...although Prime & BB have made regular cameos on RB since the beginning, I believe this is the first time another show character (Sideswipe) has appeared. I know fans of RB don't want to admit it...but I am strongly feeling S4 will be the end...and that is nothing to be ashamed of. The show had a good run...more episodes than any other series to date. It may be a subtle way of transitioning kids from RB to RiD, though my son has already moved on...I'm pretty sure if I told him S4 was the end, he would finish it out of respect for what he started when he was 5 .
Posted by Sabrblade on September 12th, 2016 @ 11:06am CDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b83BcC0pqg
Also on Dailymotion:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4sxwxv
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 12th, 2016 @ 11:23am CDT
Posted by PrymeStriker on September 12th, 2016 @ 11:39am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:So while Bounce got a design that looks (or would look) the same across both shows, Sideswipe instead got some artistic liberties for his RB cartoon design.
Indeed, and that's what I find interesting to see.
Meanwhile, checked out "History Lessons". It was pretty good, but I think I'm a little more open to this being season two rather than season three, because this episode didn't particularly feel like a premiere. Alas, that makes "Decepticon Island" a little odd.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 12th, 2016 @ 11:42am CDT
Twould be a "mid-season climax event", then. Or the end of the season's first story arc.PrymeStriker wrote:Meanwhile, checked out "History Lessons". It was pretty good, but I think I'm a little more open to this being season two rather than season three, because this episode didn't particularly feel like a premiere. Alas, that makes "Decepticon Island" a little odd.
Posted by Kurona on September 12th, 2016 @ 1:02pm CDT
I'm still really uneasy about the desert/winter camos being shameless to-sell-toys things. I mean I get it, every Transformers series does it; but this just seems especially obnoxious, even more than Armada's Powerlinx 'upgrades'.
Also the base was attacked by Decepticons and Bumblebee went to hide? What? Wasn't the whole point in TFP that the base was hidden and that when it was found at the end of Season 2 it was a massive game-changer because the Decepticons immediately blew the hell out of it?
And I certainly don't recognise those defence systems from TFP...
Otherwise, great episode. I liked Paralon, the callback to Wheeljack's first appearance is nice; and I like that Buzzstrike appears to be a combination of a Targetmaster and an Armada-esque Powerlinx power-up Mini-con, which I really like. That's what the Aligned continuity (though it seems a joke to call it that anymore) is all about after all, right? Melding together aspects of previous series to make something new and entertaining.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 12th, 2016 @ 1:14pm CDT
Pretty sure he was talking about some offscreen event that we never saw in Prime, possibly set before the show's beginning in the time when there were Decepticons on Earth three years prior. And maybe they were Decepticons who weren't part of the Nemesis crew and never got to report back their finding of the Autobots' base to Megatron (if they were Vehicons, the Autobots might've even killed them).Kurona wrote:Also the base was attacked by Decepticons and Bumblebee went to hide? What? Wasn't the whole point in TFP that the base was hidden and that when it was found at the end of Season 2 it was a massive game-changer because the Decepticons immediately blew the hell out of it?
You are correct. They weren't in Prime. They're likely from more offscreen events, like the above incident and the time Bee and Bulkhead arm-wrestled.Kurona wrote:And I certainly don't recognise those defence systems from TFP...
Posted by Kurona on September 12th, 2016 @ 1:18pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Pretty sure he was talking about some offscreen event that we never saw in Prime, possibly set before the show's beginning in the time when there were Decepticons on Earth three years prior. And maybe they were Decepticons who weren't part of the Nemesis crew and never got to report back their finding of the Autobots' base to Megatron (if they were Vehicons, the Autobots might've even killed them).Kurona wrote:Also the base was attacked by Decepticons and Bumblebee went to hide? What? Wasn't the whole point in TFP that the base was hidden and that when it was found at the end of Season 2 it was a massive game-changer because the Decepticons immediately blew the hell out of it?You are correct. They weren't in Prime. They're likely from more offscreen events, like the above incident and the time Bee and Bulkhead arm-wrestled.Kurona wrote:And I certainly don't recognise those defence systems from TFP...
True. Not necessarily saying it's out of the realm of possibility; just that if you're going to a place specifically as a callback it'd make sense to allude to things that, y'know, were part of that place rather than bringing up random things. Just raises eyebrows and questions.
Still, not enough to bring down a great episode. Interested to see how things go with Buzzstrike. I mean he's obviously gonna join the autobots - even if he wasn't paired with Bumblebee in his toy that's really obvious from how he acts in the episode - but it'll be fun to see how.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 12th, 2016 @ 1:29pm CDT
Posted by psj333 on September 14th, 2016 @ 2:44pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 14th, 2016 @ 6:51pm CDT
Or, it could be the episode where she acquires Sawtooth as her partner Mini-Con.psj333 wrote:In the next episode called, "Strongarm's Biggest Score", looks like her biggest score is Scatterspike, judging by the footage shown at this year's Comic Con. In the footage, you can see Scatterspike completely beat Strongarm senselessly, before took off. Is it true, that Scatterspike is being described as Strongarm's rival of sorts, hence the title?
Posted by Sabrblade on September 18th, 2016 @ 9:10pm CDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_AwaMXzPko
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4tpcva
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 18th, 2016 @ 9:56pm CDT
Posted by PrymeStriker on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:19am CDT
Next week, Episode 3: "Feminist Logic".
...
Oh, sorry, I always confuse that title. I meant "Pretzel Logic".
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 19th, 2016 @ 7:24am CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
Posted by Sabrblade on September 19th, 2016 @ 7:26am CDT
If the Ark ever did sit there, that is, since we have no idea what happened to the Ark in this continuity after it left Cybertron through a space bridge and went on a planet-hopping adventure in space.Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 19th, 2016 @ 8:07am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 19th, 2016 @ 8:12am CDT
All three of the Mini-Cons we've seen so far hanging out with those Decepticons are ones whose toys come with Autobot toys. But as Aerobolt says, they're currently in a situation in which they don't trust anyone, and have to rely on these Decepticons for the time being since someone is apparently after them. Yet, we saw how Buzzstrike behaved in the last episode and how Sawtooth behaved in this episode, in which both of them didn't want to hurt anyone and aren't inherently evil. It's evident that these Mini-Cons are eventually going to learn to trust the Autobots and join up with them later on.Stuartmaximus wrote:btw isn't Aerobolt supposed to be a good guy? i know he's supposed to be Power Surge Op Prime's minicon(well...at least where the Leader Class PSOP is concerned) so i dunno why he's hanging out with a bunch of enemy minicons(coz Clawtrap is a decepticon! you can see his insignia)
Posted by Kurona on September 19th, 2016 @ 8:16am CDT
Posted by psj333 on September 19th, 2016 @ 8:26am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 19th, 2016 @ 9:11am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
I was writing my geology paper on mount saint helens at the time, slip of the mind.
And, the person who is after those minicons is totally Starscream, we all know it
Posted by PrymeStriker on September 19th, 2016 @ 10:14am CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And, the person who is after those minicons is totally Starscream, we all know it
Hell yeah.
I'm going to laugh my ass off if his episode debut is "Milo Stewart Logic" "Pretzel Logic". It'll probably come much later, but if it is....holy sh**.
Posted by Flashwave on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:09pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:If the Ark ever did sit there, that is, since we have no idea what happened to the Ark in this continuity after it left Cybertron through a space bridge and went on a planet-hopping adventure in space.Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
But Arcee did mention the Ark to Jack when Maggy showed up in Prime, so there IS or WAS an ark.
Posted by Kurona on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:15pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If the Ark ever did sit there, that is, since we have no idea what happened to the Ark in this continuity after it left Cybertron through a space bridge and went on a planet-hopping adventure in space.Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
But Arcee did mention the Ark to Jack when Maggy showed up in Prime, so there IS or WAS an ark.
We know that; we saw it take off in Fall of Cybertron. We just don't know what happened to it after.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:56pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Flashwave wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If the Ark ever did sit there, that is, since we have no idea what happened to the Ark in this continuity after it left Cybertron through a space bridge and went on a planet-hopping adventure in space.Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
But Arcee did mention the Ark to Jack when Maggy showed up in Prime, so there IS or WAS an ark.
We know that; we saw it take off in Fall of Cybertron. We just don't know what happened to it after.
Eh? how does this tie in to FOC? coz that's what you'd be suggesting if it's the same Ark
Posted by Kurona on September 19th, 2016 @ 3:07pm CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Kurona wrote:Flashwave wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If the Ark ever did sit there, that is, since we have no idea what happened to the Ark in this continuity after it left Cybertron through a space bridge and went on a planet-hopping adventure in space.Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
But Arcee did mention the Ark to Jack when Maggy showed up in Prime, so there IS or WAS an ark.
We know that; we saw it take off in Fall of Cybertron. We just don't know what happened to it after.
Eh? how does this tie in to FOC? coz that's what you'd be suggesting if it's the same Ark
Because officially, WFC/FoC are part of the same universe as TFP/RiD 2015/Rescue Bots. It's stupid, pointless and doesn't make a lot of sense, but they are officially the same universe.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 19th, 2016 @ 3:30pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Kurona wrote:Flashwave wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If the Ark ever did sit there, that is, since we have no idea what happened to the Ark in this continuity after it left Cybertron through a space bridge and went on a planet-hopping adventure in space.Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
But Arcee did mention the Ark to Jack when Maggy showed up in Prime, so there IS or WAS an ark.
We know that; we saw it take off in Fall of Cybertron. We just don't know what happened to it after.
Eh? how does this tie in to FOC? coz that's what you'd be suggesting if it's the same Ark
Because officially, WFC/FoC are part of the same universe as TFP/RiD 2015/Rescue Bots. It's stupid, pointless and doesn't make a lot of sense, but they are officially the same universe.
Well...in that case...i'm surprised they didn't just add the Bayverse in there as well! coz then we'd know what happened to the Ark.....it crashed onto the moon
Posted by Sabrblade on September 19th, 2016 @ 9:31pm CDT
WFC and FOC were both conceived to be part of the Aligned continuity just like Prime and RID 2015 were (Rescue Bots got shoehorned in, but they made it work well enough). It's just that the video games and the shows were produced independently from one another, with each having to make references to one another afterward.Stuartmaximus wrote:Kurona wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Kurona wrote:Flashwave wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If the Ark ever did sit there, that is, since we have no idea what happened to the Ark in this continuity after it left Cybertron through a space bridge and went on a planet-hopping adventure in space.Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
But Arcee did mention the Ark to Jack when Maggy showed up in Prime, so there IS or WAS an ark.
We know that; we saw it take off in Fall of Cybertron. We just don't know what happened to it after.
Eh? how does this tie in to FOC? coz that's what you'd be suggesting if it's the same Ark
Because officially, WFC/FoC are part of the same universe as TFP/RiD 2015/Rescue Bots. It's stupid, pointless and doesn't make a lot of sense, but they are officially the same universe.
Well...in that case...i'm surprised they didn't just add the Bayverse in there as well! coz then we'd know what happened to the Ark.....it crashed onto the moon
Like, FOC deliberately gave Cliffjumper a head design beased on his Prime head, the Path Blaster was designed to look like an earlier version of Optimus's gun from Prime, and the design for the Nemesis in FOC is directly based on the ship's Prime cartoon design.
Likewise, the Prime cartoon started referring to the Great War as "the War for Cybertron" many times beginning with season 2, Cliffjumper (in Arcee's flashback episode) referred to a time when he once got lost in the Sea of Rust which was a whole level he was playable in in FOC, the Nemesis was revealed to have an intelligence of its own in one season 2 episode as a reference to the ship's having been reconfigured from WFC Trypticon in FOC (but which was first done by the Exodus and Exiles novels), Miko and Bulkhead directly referred to the FOC Dinobots in one episode in season 3, the Core of Cybertron seen a few times throughout the Prime cartoon used the same design for the Core as was seen in WFC, and more.
Not to mention that after FOC came out and both before and during the airing of Prime season 3, there were two comic mini-series being published that set out to directly connect the games to the Prime cartoon, which starred the FOC Dinobots. The first was called Rage of the Dinobots, which featured the Dinobots teamed up with Prime Ultra Magnus fighting Shockwave on Cybertron in a post-FOC setting in which we saw FOC Shockwave having upgraded himself into his Prime cartoon body and having begun his experiments with Predacons, which would bring about Predaking in Prime season 3. The series ended with the Dinobots and Magnus defeating (but not killing) Shockwave, and Magnus left Cybertron in a ship that would later bring him to Earth at the start of Prime season 3.
The second comic series was simply titled Beast Hunters, and had the FOC Dinobots trying to protect Cybertron and the last of its inhabitants from any remaining threats that existed on the planet in its very dead state, as we saw in the Prime cartoon. This comic series took place during season 3 the Prime cartoon, with Shockwave being on Earth in the show meant he was no longer on Cybertron in the comics. This story also featured FOC Kickback leading some Prime Insecticons, and another Predacon experiment of Shockwave's. The end of the story took place after Predacons Rising, with Cybertron having been restored in the cartoon taking its effect in the comics and the FOC Dinobots eventually got to reunite with Arcee, Bumblebee, and Bulkhead in the Prime cartoon designs.
Now, bear in mind that while all these connections have been made, FOC Grimlock is NOT the same guy as RID 2015 Grimlock. The creators of the RID 2015 cartoon tried to make FOC Grimlock's backstory work for RID 2015 Grimlock, but utimately, that backstory didn't work for them because it was too dark and dreary for the character they wanted to write for this show, so they simply wrote up a new Grimlock. Likewise, RID 2015 Sideswipe and RID 2015 Kickback are also considered different guys from WFC Sideswipe and FOC Kickback, as RID 2015 Sideswipe is younger than Bumblebee and didn't partake in the Great War like WFC Sideswipe did, while FOC Kickback was murdered in the Beast Hunters comics so RID 2015 Kickback couldn't possibly be him (and even if FOC Kickback didn't die, RID 2015 Kickback is too different from FOC Kickback to be the same guy anyway).
As for the Bayverse, the WFC/FOC games weren't "added in" like you say, so the notion of "adding in" the Bayverse is null and void. Besides, Rise of the Dark Spark already established the Bayverse and the WFC/FOC games as separate universes anyway.
Hope that clears things up.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 19th, 2016 @ 9:34pm CDT
The end.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 20th, 2016 @ 1:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:WFC and FOC were both conceived to be part of the Aligned continuity just like Prime and RID 2015 were (Rescue Bots got shoehorned in, but they made it work well enough). It's just that the video games and the shows were produced independently from one another, with each having to make references to one another afterward.Stuartmaximus wrote:Kurona wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Kurona wrote:Flashwave wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If the Ark ever did sit there, that is, since we have no idea what happened to the Ark in this continuity after it left Cybertron through a space bridge and went on a planet-hopping adventure in space.Stuartmaximus wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So, An autobot base in Mt Saint Helens, weapons minicons wanting freedom, repaints of season 1 and 2 characters for the bad guys. huh
btw it's HILARY not Helens, but i s'pose Helens would've been it's real world equivalent anywhoo....i got goosebumps when that volcano name was mentioned, although ended up a little disappointed when there was no huge hole there where the Ark once sat
But Arcee did mention the Ark to Jack when Maggy showed up in Prime, so there IS or WAS an ark.
We know that; we saw it take off in Fall of Cybertron. We just don't know what happened to it after.
Eh? how does this tie in to FOC? coz that's what you'd be suggesting if it's the same Ark
Because officially, WFC/FoC are part of the same universe as TFP/RiD 2015/Rescue Bots. It's stupid, pointless and doesn't make a lot of sense, but they are officially the same universe.
Well...in that case...i'm surprised they didn't just add the Bayverse in there as well! coz then we'd know what happened to the Ark.....it crashed onto the moon
Like, FOC deliberately gave Cliffjumper a head design beased on his Prime head, the Path Blaster was designed to look like an earlier version of Optimus's gun from Prime, and the design for the Nemesis in FOC is directly based on the ship's Prime cartoon design.
Likewise, the Prime cartoon started referring to the Great War as "the War for Cybertron" many times beginning with season 2, Cliffjumper (in Arcee's flashback episode) referred to a time when he once got lost in the Sea of Rust which was a whole level he was playable in in FOC, the Nemesis was revealed to have an intelligence of its own in one season 2 episode as a reference to the ship's having been reconfigured from WFC Trypticon in FOC (but which was first done by the Exodus and Exiles novels), Miko and Bulkhead directly referred to the FOC Dinobots in one episode in season 3, the Core of Cybertron seen a few times throughout the Prime cartoon used the same design for the Core as was seen in WFC, and more.
Not to mention that after FOC came out and both before and during the airing of Prime season 3, there were two comic mini-series being published that set out to directly connect the games to the Prime cartoon, which starred the FOC Dinobots. The first was called Rage of the Dinobots, which featured the Dinobots teamed up with Prime Ultra Magnus fighting Shockwave on Cybertron in a post-FOC setting in which we saw FOC Shockwave having upgraded himself into his Prime cartoon body and having begun his experiments with Predacons, which would bring about Predaking in Prime season 3. The series ended with the Dinobots and Magnus defeating (but not killing) Shockwave, and Magnus left Cybertron in a ship that would later bring him to Earth at the start of Prime season 3.
The second comic series was simply titled Beast Hunters, and had the FOC Dinobots trying to protect Cybertron and the last of its inhabitants from any remaining threats that existed on the planet in its very dead state, as we saw in the Prime cartoon. This comic series took place during season 3 the Prime cartoon, with Shockwave being on Earth in the show meant he was no longer on Cybertron in the comics. This story also featured FOC Kickback leading some Prime Insecticons, and another Predacon experiment of Shockwave's. The end of the story took place after Predacons Rising, with Cybertron having been restored in the cartoon taking its effect in the comics and the FOC Dinobots eventually got to reunite with Arcee, Bumblebee, and Bulkhead in the Prime cartoon designs.
Now, bear in mind that while all these connections have been made, FOC Grimlock is NOT the same guy as RID 2015 Grimlock. The creators of the RID 2015 cartoon tried to make FOC Grimlock's backstory work for RID 2015 Grimlock, but utimately, that backstory didn't work for them because it was too dark and dreary for the character they wanted to write for this show, so they simply wrote up a new Grimlock. Likewise, RID 2015 Sideswipe and RID 2015 Kickback are also considered different guys from WFC Sideswipe and FOC Kickback, as RID 2015 Sideswipe is younger than Bumblebee and didn't partake in the Great War like WFC Sideswipe did, while FOC Kickback was murdered in the Beast Hunters comics so RID 2015 Kickback couldn't possibly be him (and even if FOC Kickback didn't die, RID 2015 Kickback is too different from FOC Kickback to be the same guy anyway).
As for the Bayverse, the WFC/FOC games weren't "added in" like you say, so the notion of "adding in" the Bayverse is null and void. Besides, Rise of the Dark Spark already established the Bayverse and the WFC/FOC games as separate universes anyway.
Hope that clears things up.
Christ pal you didn't need to go to the trouble of writing all that out, but thanks anyway
Posted by MoonHelix-888 on September 26th, 2016 @ 8:37pm CDT
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P.S. No intro and no credits in this recording.
Also the name of 'Blue-Bisk' is Thermidor.
Posted by Kurona on September 26th, 2016 @ 10:38pm CDT
Still, it's not all without plot progression - we've got sir-not-appearing-in-this-ending-segment hiding in the shadows, contacting someone who is totally not a red and white treacherous seeker.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 26th, 2016 @ 10:55pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 26th, 2016 @ 11:32pm CDT
the only other take away for me was that we now know the Decepticon relic hunters are not in league with Starscream, what their ultimate goals are is also yet to be revealed
Now me personally, I think TF: Prime is the 2nd best animated version of the Transformers in all its incarnations through the years. however one of the biggest complaints fans had was the hunt for the relics in the mid-season 2 arc.Yet it appears they are now doing the exact same thing in this show...
The episode was kind of lame overall, but I hope the season will get better, Seems like every episode will have one or two cool reveals to keep fans hooked until something significant happens.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 26th, 2016 @ 11:51pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on September 27th, 2016 @ 12:21am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Found a really bad copy of Season 2 episode 16 "Pretzel Logic" on youtube. basically the highlight was an as yet unidentified Decepticon (perhaps a bounty hunter?) observing the battle between Grimlock & *Blue Bisk* (audio is so bad I cant make out his name)...but I do know Steve Blum's Starscream, so that was a treat to hear.
the only other take away for me was that we now know the Decepticon relic hunters are not in league with Starscream, what their ultimate goals are is also yet to be revealed
Now me personally, I think TF: Prime is the 2nd best animated version of the Transformers in all its incarnations through the years. however one of the biggest complaints fans had was the hunt for the relics in the mid-season 2 arc.Yet it appears they are now doing the exact same thing in this show...
The episode was kind of lame overall, but I hope the season will get better, Seems like every episode will have one or two cool reveals to keep fans hooked until something significant happens.
You know what though, at least for now, this take on the Scavenger Hunt story feels different, because ultimately the goal of the plot is not the item, it's to introduce the Minicon and the Decepticon do jour. and for this episode, Starscream's hunter ally Whereas in Prime, it boiled down to the same characters we already knew and the same episode shown a half dozen times with a different arrangement of bots, we are getting more new cast members and obvious pieces of the Endgame. Since it looks like Screamer is who is after the Minicons.
And really, I think this felt more like a Grimlock Episode than a Relic Episode.
Posted by PrymeStriker on September 27th, 2016 @ 1:03am CDT
STARSCREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEMMMMAAMM
Posted by Kurona on September 27th, 2016 @ 5:52am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The mysterious hunter's name is Shadelock. He seems to have a modified body-type of a Vehicon.
His head reminds me of IDW Longtooth's
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/5/5 ... gtooth.jpg
Just another nugget of proof the media is out to get us
Posted by Sabrblade on September 27th, 2016 @ 9:49am CDT
Thermidoro.supreme wrote:*Blue Bisk* (audio is so bad I cant make out his name)
Posted by psj333 on September 27th, 2016 @ 9:51am CDT
Posted by Kurona on September 27th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT
psj333 wrote:This coming episode that will air this Saturday will be called, "Big Mighty Trouble." Given the title above, I strongly to believe that this just might be very likely the debut of immortal/god-like animal-based Decepticons with unbelievable powers that I have previously, and repeatedly have predicted. What are your thoughts on that?
It's probably just a big guy that's a little bit stronger than your usual 'con.
Posted by o.supreme on September 27th, 2016 @ 10:03am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Thermidoro.supreme wrote:*Blue Bisk* (audio is so bad I cant make out his name)
LOL thanks...continuing the theme of cons named after Lobster based cuisine.
Posted by psj333 on September 27th, 2016 @ 10:10am CDT
Kurona wrote:It's probably just a big guy that's a little bit stronger than your usual 'con.
When you say "a big guy", are you referring to a Decepticon, or a ordinary human or an animal?
Posted by o.supreme on September 27th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The mysterious hunter's name is Shadelock. He seems to have a modified body-type of a Vehicon.
do you do any writing for TF wiki? I swear their entry for Pretzel Logic was blank last night, and now they have the characters up. Probably just starting to ad info because it is such a new episode.
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It's probably just a big guy that's a little bit stronger than your usual 'con.[/quote]
Initially I thought "Mighty Big trouble" might introduce the combiner toys for RiD15 we have seen are coming out, but now we know the plot is another hunt for the relics story....it may just be another larger than average Decepticon, but likely its Starscream. Clips from the first 3 episodes were shown in the teaser shown at SDCC, including a shot of him at the end, so I'm guessing perhaps this is Starscreams official introductory episode...
Posted by psj333 on September 27th, 2016 @ 10:22am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Initially I thought "Mighty Big trouble" might introduce the combiner toys for RiD15 we have seen are coming out, but now we know the plot is another hunt for the relics story....it may just be another larger than average Decepticon, but likely its Starscream. Clips from the first 3 episodes were shown in the teaser shown at SDCC, including a shot of him at the end, so I'm guessing perhaps this is Starscreams official introductory episode...
Are Starscream and Shadelock are the only Decepticons that will make their debuts on "Big Mighty Trouble, or that a brand-new Decepticon will also debut alongside them?
Posted by Sabrblade on September 27th, 2016 @ 10:25am CDT
Like always, you ask a question to which no answer can be given due to insufficient information known at the time of your asking.psj333 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Initially I thought "Mighty Big trouble" might introduce the combiner toys for RiD15 we have seen are coming out, but now we know the plot is another hunt for the relics story....it may just be another larger than average Decepticon, but likely its Starscream. Clips from the first 3 episodes were shown in the teaser shown at SDCC, including a shot of him at the end, so I'm guessing perhaps this is Starscreams official introductory episode...
Are Starscream and Shadelock are the only Decepticons that will make their debuts on "Big Mighty Trouble, or that a brand-new Decepticon will also debut alongside them?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 27th, 2016 @ 1:22pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Thermidoro.supreme wrote:*Blue Bisk* (audio is so bad I cant make out his name)
LOL thanks...continuing the theme of cons named after Lobster based cuisine.
I swear, they are having way too much fun with these crustacecons