Rumour: And the theme for Botcon 2010's toys is???

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

I thought they don't reuse molds that have been used as past convention toys? Grimlock and Ramjet were in the 07 and 08 sets.

I wouldn't mind it, but I doubt we'll see anything G2. A Generation Lost probably means something taking place after the WOH set from last year.

Nekoman wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

I thought they don't reuse molds that have been used as past convention toys? Grimlock and Ramjet were in the 07 and 08 sets.

I wouldn't mind it, but I doubt we'll see anything G2. A Generation Lost probably means something taking place after the WOH set from last year.

Wasn't the policy that they wouldn't use the same molds two years in a row? Ramjetwas used in 07 so could be used in 09 and 10. Grimlock was in 08 so it could be feasable to be in this box. I hope not as they have done Grimlock twice (once as Overkill).

The only thing G2 I want are the Stunticons and Protectobots. Come on TFCC, get the molds form somewhere. The Seacons sold out almost instantly, so will they.

Nekoman wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

I thought they don't reuse molds that have been used as past convention toys? Grimlock and Ramjet were in the 07 and 08 sets.

Well, it's not written in stone that they can't use previous botcon molds, I think they just want to avoid that as much as possible, but I think that they would use an older mold if the case called for it.

If this G2 rumor is true, then I would really, really love for FP to give us a G2 Ramjet deco. Didn't Pyro and Clench qualify as part of G2? If so, I'm tossing them in as the Botcon leaders for the set. Pyro from Cybertron Op Prime, hopefully in yellow and black. And Clench from G2 Hero Op Prime. Granted, we do already have this mold as RiD Scourge, but I think with a new head, this may work.

Let's see... Botcon exclusives could include things like the G2 Stunticons or Protectobots, the unreleased G2 Hero Optimus and Megatron, and maybe the unreleaed G2 Gobots that ended up being redecoed as Spy Changers?

I suppose it had to happen eventually.

Judgement on these toys could be harsh depending on what they bring forward.

You Know, Instead Of Concentrating On Figures That Were Actually Released In G1, Then Just Given Garish Color Schemes For G2, They Could Actually Commemorate Some Figs That Were Released For G2 And Were Never Really Redone Any Other Time.

There Were The Axelerators; Rapido, Turbofire, Skram, And Windbreaker (Snicker...).

The Sky Scorchers; Windrazor, Eagle Eye, Afterburner, And Terradive.

The Cyberjets; Jetfire, Strafe, Air Raid, Skyjack, Space Case And Hooligan (Ok, Skip Jetfire, Air Raid, And Hooligan, They've Been Covered, Kinda.)

The Rotor Force; Manta Ray, Leadfoot, Ransack And Powerdive.

There Was The Laser Rods (I Know, Volt Got A Homage In The First Movie Line), The Laser Cycles , The Go-Bots (Silly Name, But Some Standouts Like Firecracker), And The Aqua Drenchers (Drench Was Used, But There Are Still Three Others), Heck, They Could Even Do Dreadwing And Smokescreen (Old Names, Cool New Molds).

I Realize I'm A Bit Longwinded About This, But, It Is My Belief That If They Really Want To Commemorate "The Generation Lost" Of Transformers Using A G2 Theme, They Should Look Into The Truly "Lost" Members Of The Transformers Canon.

I expect that this will just be the G2 Stunticon release.

I think we should think inside the Armada/energon/Cybertron/Classics molds, and what G2 characters can be taken from them (no movie mold was used on Botcon till now).
Let's see:
- classics seekers -> G2 seekers (Starscream and Ramjet were the only released as I remember)
- metallic gold Bumblebee and red Cliffjumper from their Classic counterparts

There's another few possibilities of interpretation, you know...

1 ) Characters still on Cybertron during the time the Boss Bots and Boss Cons were in stasis on Earth.

2 ) The time period between G1 Season 2 and the Movie.

3 ) An alternate timeline branching from the movie, where they didn't get Unicron destroyed until after he ate Cybertron

Etcetera, etcetera...

I hope this rumor is false. I'm not interested in G2, but I am definitely going to Botcon this year since I live about an hour away. So I would like the exclusives for what may be the only year I can go to Botcon to be something really really awesome.

Valandar wrote:There's another few possibilities of interpretation, you know...

1 ) Characters still on Cybertron during the time the Boss Bots and Boss Cons were in stasis on Earth.

2 ) The time period between G1 Season 2 and the Movie.

3 ) An alternate timeline branching from the movie, where they didn't get Unicron destroyed until after he ate Cybertron

Etcetera, etcetera...

Yes true, however my source (who predicted SDCC Blaster and others before they became known) predicts a G2 set. On his past track record I posted it as a rumour.

I'd imagine the Botcon story will be set in the same universe as Wings of Honor, but in the present day that we saw briefly in the comics that had the Battlechargers and the two G2 Decepticons fighting Nexus Prime and Aquarius. So it will be the same world, but in a different era as the club magazine comics.

What I'd like from a G2 set would be as follows:

Cybertron Starscream as Jhiaxus (A MUST!!!)

Energon Starscream as Hooligan (we already saw it in the Wings of homour comic)

Robotmasters Mirage as Double Clutch

Energon Barricade as Mindset

Classics Seeker mold in G2 Ramjet colours BUT names Slipstream (Animated SS's colours are very reminiscent of G2 Ramjet to me and it would retcon a cool new Animated character into G1/G2)

Classics Starscream in G2 colours but as a brand new Seeker character (if this was done, those of us that have the G2 Seekers would instantly have new characters as many of us will not be able to buy the Botcon set anyway)

Remold the heads on the Animated Twins to give us one of those combining Cybertronain jets

Reissue G1 Sideswipe as Firecracker (never happen but I can dream)

Energon Starscream as Smokescreen

Cybertron Thundercracker as Space Case

If as some are speculating, it's not G2 but another TF era, I'd love it to be the Actionmaster era. We've already seen Banzai-tron and Overrun in the comics. Funnily, I've always seen Micromaster Energon Devestator as the Actionmaster character because of it's size. Classics Megatron needs a head remold and repaint as Treadshot.

Then again, we've also seen Japanese exclusive characters in the Con fiction with Leozack, Hellbat and the Autobot Pretender Commander whose name escapes me.

Just putting out feelers, but I may be interested in buying a few loose Botcon exclusives if they're G2. I'll be able to pick them up in person, too.

Counterpunch wrote:I expect that this will just be the G2 Stunticon release.

Agreed..That'd be fine by me... The one part that is got me worrying is the limited set number that will be produced..Will kind of eliminate those who would be on the fence about gettting them for the normal price versus the insane jacked up price..Gonna have to pull the trigger on this one fo sho'...

dont know about you guys but i will kliterally shit a brick and eat itif it turns out to be select brave characters brought back as new transformers characters

i would kill to get my hands on a energon era captain sharkticon lol

Trikeboy wrote:

Nekoman wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

I thought they don't reuse molds that have been used as past convention toys? Grimlock and Ramjet were in the 07 and 08 sets.

I wouldn't mind it, but I doubt we'll see anything G2. A Generation Lost probably means something taking place after the WOH set from last year.

Wasn't the policy that they wouldn't use the same molds two years in a row? Ramjetwas used in 07 so could be used in 09 and 10. Grimlock was in 08 so it could be feasable to be in this box. I hope not as they have done Grimlock twice (once as Overkill).

I see it as possible.

THIS JUST IN!!! the upcoming Botcon 2010 set will be:

Energon Barricade
In bright yellow and bright purple with purple camo and a black combined mode head

Energon Blackout
In white and purple with purple camo

Energon Stormcloud
In light blue and purple with purple camo

Energon Blight
In bright orange and purple with purple camo

Energon Kickback
In bright neon green and purple with purple camo

G2 Bruticus (Maximus)!


Just kidding... that'd be horrible, wouldn't it?

- Sam

Samsonator wrote:Just kidding... that'd be horrible, wouldn't it?

- Sam

And I'd still get it

Going off of the preview pages in another post, I think the "forgotten" TFs will be mre of the European and Japanese exclusives from G1.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

Also we could be looking at transtech since that was generation of toys that was never produced.

According to official fiction the club exclusive combiner Topspin lived in a "G2" universe before traveling to Axiom Nexus and hooking up with Alpha Trion's band. Also, we have seen some G2 characters in the current Wings of Honor universe. What if this world is that of Topspin, life, and the world of Wings of Honor's future?

Scaleface wrote:According to official fiction the club exclusive combiner Topspin lived in a "G2" universe before traveling to Axiom Nexus and hooking up with Alpha Trion's band. Also, we have seen some G2 characters in the current Wings of Honor universe. What if this world is that of Topspin, life, and the world of Wings of Honor's future?

Makes a ton of sense actually.

All I know is that I'm ready for some more recent mold repaints--Classics and, in particular, Animated. Animated strikes me as something G2-ish anyway, if that's indeed where they're heading with this.

A re-release of old molds would break from the last few years' trend of reusing recent molds.

Nothing is impossible, but I would rather see more redecos from classics mold as I feel they are superior to the original G1 / G2 molds. The color schemes are fun and would only see the light of day as Botcon figures.

Maybe there will be a twist and we'll get something off the wall like the desert camo ramjet or jungle strike starscream that were never produced...

Seibertron wrote:

If it is G2 ... maybe we'll get a G2 Menasor and/or G2 Defensor set? You know those molds are just sitting somewhere. Heck, if that happens ... they could easily do the G1 set as well and sell both at the convention or maybe Takara could release the G1 versions in Encore. Either way would cut down on costs, though the Takara route would cut it down much more.

If they do something with G2 but don't do anything with Defensor and/or Menasor, then I'll start thinking that we'll never get those toys. Until then, I'm still holding out hope for sets of those at some point.

I don't know if we're going to see them. I'm really not sure the club has the cash flow to do it, in all honesty.

Don't get me wrong, I'd buy them a heart beat, but it just doesn't feel like something the club would do. The Seacons were an an exception since the figures were already produced and just sitting (if you believe Hasbro).

BTW, I love the "Wishful Thinking" tag!

Equus Maximus wrote:You Know, Instead Of Concentrating On Figures That Were Actually Released In G1, Then Just Given Garish Color Schemes For G2, They Could Actually Commemorate Some Figs That Were Released For G2 And Were Never Really Redone Any Other Time.

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I Realize I'm A Bit Longwinded About This, But, It Is My Belief That If They Really Want To Commemorate "The Generation Lost" Of Transformers Using A G2 Theme, They Should Look Into The Truly "Lost" Members Of The Transformers Canon.

TOTALLY AGREE.

There were 3 main reasons why I lost interest in TFs in the late '80s/early '90s:

1. The quality of the figures kept getting worse;
2. Actionmasters - "Transformers" that don't transform? WTF?; &
3. The initial waves of G2 were GARISH repaints of G1 figures (where's the "second" generation in that?).

I didn't even know there were new molds until it was too late.

The new molds you mention didn't get much treatment in the comics. THEY truly are a "lost generation."

I wonder if there will be a Ransack repainted from Ransack

My wallet wants them to do G2 characters since I will not be tempted to buy any... but my heart is hoping for something cooler.