Rumour Megatron and Jazz to be Transformers MPM-08 and MPM-09

While I'm super excited for a MPM Jazz, that Megatron design can bugger right off. In fact, if that design disappeared an was never seen again, I'd be happy.


Jazz though, that is very awesome.

ZeroWolf wrote:Hopefully this rumor of MPM Megatron and Jazz is true, and that they'll be able to re-enact their infamous and only scene together where Jazz is ripped in two by Megatron!

Bring this up again, and y'all will face my WRATH.

Poor Jazzy

Very cool if true! Glad to see new characters represented, hopefully Ratchet and Blackout follow these. They can do another Starscream after that.

YES!!! Ever since the Studio Series launched I've been waiting for a 2007 "jet" Megatron to complete my set. When SS 34 was revealed to be the "hobo version" I was disappointed. If this turns out to be true then I'll definitely be picking this one up. Unless Hasbro releases a SS version.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Bring this up again, and y'all will face my WRATH.

Poor Jazzy

Now there's a character who should have featured in Bumblebee.

Yes!
Movie Jazz is awesome and its nice it receives a Masterpiece.

Megatron 2007 design deserves another chance,this may be the figure we were waiting that does it justice.
Just like studio series made more people like Starscream because it was a good toy,something on same scale or even better happens.

I'm confused. I thought I saw MPM 2007 Megatron already yesterday. Unless that wasn't what I saw but maybe a new third party figure? It looked pretty awesome though.

I know a lot of young people got into Transformers with the 2007 live action movie.

But what the hell man, that Megatron doesn't look like a Transformer.
Transformers Bay are just action movies with alien robots with a Transformers sticker slapped on it with some names and some mild references.

Megatron looks cool as an alien robot. He's not a Transformer and he's not Megatron.

The first Leader toy was horrible, couldn't stand and the colors my god.

I hope they focus on the Bumblebee movie from now on studio series wise.

I am looking forward to that combiner called Devastator, I like his colors and design (not how he was handled as a character in the movie) and again he's not Devastator. But he's a cool looking gorilla combiner.

Oh, shaddap. IMO the only major aspect the movies are lacking is the Autobots providing disaster relief.

If this true then this will be the first time Jazz and masterpiece become one.

noctorro wrote:I know a lot of young people got into Transformers with the 2007 live action movie.

I grew up in the 80s with the original G1 but I far prefer the 2007-2017 movieverse.

But what the hell man, that Megatron doesn't look like a Transformer.
Transformers Bay are just action movies with alien robots with a Transformers sticker slapped on it with some names and some mild references.

Transformers began in 1984 as a reuse of different japanese toylines (that didn't even scale with each other and led to such idiotic things as Megatron being a handgun against Optimus who is a truck) repurposed as alien robots with the then new Transformers 'sticker' slapped on it (wonder if the japanese fans of those original toylines made such a fuss...hard to tell without the internet back then).

Megatron looks cool as an alien robot. He's not a Transformer and he's not Megatron.

Yes he does. Yes he is and again he is.

The first Leader toy was horrible, couldn't stand and the colors my god.

It was a fun toy, it could stand and the colours were alright.

I hope they focus on the Bumblebee movie from now on studio series wise.

I really don't. Also if that movie is indeed in some kinda messed up continuity with the Bay directed movies then 2007 Megatron is the Megatron in that (still frozen). Which of course doesn't make a lot of sense with such different aesthetics but that's just one of many continuity issues that film has made.

I am looking forward to that combiner called Devastator, I like his colors and design (not how he was handled as a character in the movie) and again he's not Devastator. But he's a cool looking gorilla combiner.

Yes that is Devastator. Not 'your' Devastator but it is a Devastator. But yeah he's a cool looking gorilla combiner too and certainly makes a lot more logical sense than G1 Devs in many ways (colour scheme and posture due to the huge mass of a crapload of metal being obvious).

I'm still puzzled about the Megatron figure pic I have and not sure I can even uploaded since the tweet I got it from has been deleted.

Well said, Carnivius.

I'm personally a multifan, loving many series including (unlike you) the G1 cartoon (though Cybertron is my absolute favorite). But I think those series should all be allowed to be themselves, and you make some very solid points.

Regarding ROTF Devastator, if anyone doesn't get why he's so unconventional as far as TF combiners on the whole go, he's made up of nine Constructicons (a number of which are huge vehicles) instead of six because the emphasis on a degree of realism restricted the use of mass-shifting so more components were needed to achieve the kaiju size (this was before any official writers spelled out a justification for the Mario Super Mushroom Effect combining had in classic G1 fiction), and that same focus on realism led to him having a gorilla-like posture.

Who would have thought the guy named after a Fuzor would be such a GEEWUN whiner?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Regarding ROTF Devastator, if anyone doesn't get why he's so unconventional as far as TF combiners on the whole go, he's made up of nine Constructicons (a number of which are huge vehicles) instead of six because the emphasis on a degree of realism restricted the use of mass-shifting so more components were needed to achieve the kaiju size

YEah I'm no fan of mass-shifting at all as never made any sense to me (like why Astrotrain can apparently turn into a shuttle big enough for even G1 Devastator to combine inside of how come he doesn't turn into a robot bigger than Devastator and therefore make that combiner kinda redundant).

Also Dreamwave and the stupidly gigantic cars of Menasor (it says signed by Pat Lee in the corner but I'm never sure which images were actually drawn by Pat Lee or not, the hack that he was).


Frustrating cos Menasor was one combining team that made more sense than some of the others. A big truck and four cars is nice and simple unlike Bruticus who had jeep and shuttle as part of his components yet somehow ended up with even sized limbs. And Superion sounds fine at first (big concorde, four smaller planes) but should tower weigh above Menasor since planes are bigger than cars. Transformers is a whole mess of crazy crap so any attempts to rescale things to a more logical state are fine by me.


Thanks by the way and yeah we've all got our likes and dislikes but saying one series isn't Transformers when it was clearly designed to be is a bit silly. We're forced to accept even creepy cringey Kiss Players is Transformers.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

noctorro wrote:I know a lot of young people got into Transformers with the 2007 live action movie.

I grew up in the 80s with the original G1 but I far prefer the 2007-2017 movieverse.

But what the hell man, that Megatron doesn't look like a Transformer.
Transformers Bay are just action movies with alien robots with a Transformers sticker slapped on it with some names and some mild references.

Transformers began in 1984 as a reuse of different japanese toylines (that didn't even scale with each other and led to such idiotic things as Megatron being a handgun against Optimus who is a truck) repurposed as alien robots with the then new Transformers 'sticker' slapped on it (wonder if the japanese fans of those original toylines made such a fuss...hard to tell without the internet back then).

Megatron looks cool as an alien robot. He's not a Transformer and he's not Megatron.

Yes he does. Yes he is and again he is.

The first Leader toy was horrible, couldn't stand and the colors my god.

It was a fun toy, it could stand and the colours were alright.

I hope they focus on the Bumblebee movie from now on studio series wise.

I really don't. Also if that movie is indeed in some kinda messed up continuity with the Bay directed movies then 2007 Megatron is the Megatron in that (still frozen). Which of course doesn't make a lot of sense with such different aesthetics but that's just one of many continuity issues that film has made.

I am looking forward to that combiner called Devastator, I like his colors and design (not how he was handled as a character in the movie) and again he's not Devastator. But he's a cool looking gorilla combiner.

Yes that is Devastator. Not 'your' Devastator but it is a Devastator. But yeah he's a cool looking gorilla combiner too and certainly makes a lot more logical sense than G1 Devs in many ways (colour scheme and posture due to the huge mass of a crapload of metal being obvious).

I'm still puzzled about the Megatron figure pic I have and not sure I can even uploaded since the tweet I got it from has been deleted.

Dude you're a legend. That is easily the most solid argument I've seen from anyone on this site in the longest time. Thank you for that. If you can please tell us what that Megatron looked like, because a lot of people would love to know. Me personally I'm far more interested in Masterpiece Jazz. He's one of the few characters to have never gotten a Masterpiece toy. I love movie Jazz. He really should've been in Bumblebee.

noctorro wrote:I know a lot of young people got into Transformers with the 2007 live action movie.

But what the hell man, that Megatron doesn't look like a Transformer.
Transformers Bay are just action movies with alien robots with a Transformers sticker slapped on it with some names and some mild references.

Megatron looks cool as an alien robot. He's not a Transformer and he's not Megatron.

The first Leader toy was horrible, couldn't stand and the colors my god.

I hope they focus on the Bumblebee movie from now on studio series wise.

I am looking forward to that combiner called Devastator, I like his colors and design (not how he was handled as a character in the movie) and again he's not Devastator. But he's a cool looking gorilla combiner.

Bumblebee is one of my favorite Transformers Movies, but I pray to PRIMUS they do not focus entirely on BumbleBee. Yeah the movie was awesome, but the cast that movie has was super small. There was only like 8 new designs. Part of what makes this line so special is the variety and taking that away would make things super boring. A mix of new stuff from a variety of different films is they way it needs to stay. If they focused only on Bumblebee the line would end in 2 short waves and we'd be left with an unfinished devastator and 2007 decepticon cast. These designs aren't everyones cup of tea, but having Hasbro focus on one movie where most of the cast didn't even have vehicle modes is just not a smart idea. Also there's the WFC line which focuses on G1 designs and having them focus on bumblebee would cause an overload of G1 designs which is already somewhat happening with Cyberverse and WFC sharing shelf space. What we really need is a Studio Series Dino and Dotm Shockwave.

Hope Jazz comes out good. Megatron looks like Mega-crap like most of the other Bayverse Decepticons. I wouldn't want it if it was given to me for free.

The masterpiece line needs to focus on making the new movie-verse figures instead of going back 10 years to make Bay's garbage-formers.

Siger wrote:Hope Jazz comes out good. Megatron looks like Mega-crap like most of the other Bayverse Decepticons. I wouldn't want it if it was given to me for free.

The masterpiece line needs to focus on making the new movie-verse figures instead of going back 10 years to make Bay's garbage-formers.

I disagree strongly. The original 13 from the movie need to be done in MPM form. We have 3 so far and 2 more on the way this year, so we are nearly halfway there.

FYI, when I say 13, I mean the 5 Autobots (Prime, Bee, Ironhide, Ratchet, Jazz), the 6 big cons (Megatron, Starscream, Barricade, Blackout, Brawl, and ESPECIALLY Bonecrusher), and the 2 little cons (Frenzy and Scorponok). They missed their first opportunity with Frenzy, I want all the little dudes too

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Siger wrote:Hope Jazz comes out good. Megatron looks like Mega-crap like most of the other Bayverse Decepticons. I wouldn't want it if it was given to me for free.

The masterpiece line needs to focus on making the new movie-verse figures instead of going back 10 years to make Bay's garbage-formers.

I disagree strongly. The original 13 from the movie need to be done in MPM form. We have 3 so far and 2 more on the way this year, so we are nearly halfway there.

FYI, when I say 13, I mean the 5 Autobots (Prime, Bee, Ironhide, Ratchet, Jazz), the 6 big cons (Megatron, Starscream, Barricade, Blackout, Brawl, and ESPECIALLY Bonecrusher), and the 2 little cons (Frenzy and Scorponok). They missed their first opportunity with Frenzy, I want all the little dudes too

Yes the first Movie is iconic.If any of the live action series should have the whole cast in the masterpiece line,is the 2007 one.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Oh, shaddap. IMO the only major aspect the movies are lacking is the Autobots providing disaster relief.

I know it isn't canon, but at least the version of the characters in the first movie video game wouldn't be providing disaster relief. There's a mission where I think it's Jazz (it's an Autobot either way) is tasked with blowing up gas stations to provide a distraction. They weren't exactly concerned with civilian well being in that story.

Emerje

An MP movie Jazz is perfectly logical move for the Movie MP line.

I think it has potential for being great looking figure.

As a comparison we have Human Alliance Jazz. I think its a pretty decent figure, and would only really need some improvements with the forearms and the upper legs to bump him up to MP quality.




As to MP Megs. He should be a walk in the park to do as an MP. His design doesn't really hide anything in his "jet" mode. And other that tucking away his legs a bit more there's really not much that needs to be done to bump it up to MP other than articulation and paint.

I'm expecting something closer to the Best Buy exclusive in terms of color scheme.



Or maybe the Premium Leader Premium Megatron for a darker tone.

I would hope for an MP Movie 1 Megatron to include an accurate fusion cannon as well as his spear.

It looks the rumors came through! Yes, MPM-08 Megatron and MPM-09 Jazz's were revealed at the September 26th convention. Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Plastic Hero for letting us know as well!

Here, from weibo users ToyPlus and IAMNOFIRE, we get two see many awesome pics of Masterpiece MPM Megatron and Jazz, including a video of when the presenters unveiled the display case.





























Jazz appears to include his shield gun, and a figure of Sam Witwicky running with the AllSpark. And... guts. Yes, he can be torn into two pieces.





...only to be held by Megatron, who can hold the two pieces. He also includes an AllSpark cube, as well as what appears to be an alternate arm, which most likely transforms into a blaster, or mace, with the included articulation chain.

Both are very accurate, and you can check in the images below. Then, tell us your thoughts in the Pub forums!

Oh my god... They look fantastic. Megatron looks great and Jazz just blows me away. And the nice bonuses of Sam figurine and that Jazz can be 'torn' in two and held by Megatron (a grim bonus but people would keep on asking anyways). Really impressed by these. Now if only I was the kind of person who could afford MPM figures.

Nothing about Megatrons Boy smelling action feature yet. Maybe the Sam figure is scratch and sniff... o.O

Not entirely sold on Megatron's face. His eyes are messed up by making the thin bar over them far to thick, the copper is too light, and they didn't paint his bottom jaw. It just feels too off to me.

Everything else about both of them I love and definitely want.

Emerje

As always, Megatron is hideous. There is no saving that design. I know it has its fans (and you are all lunatics! ), but movie Megatron figures will never have a slot in my collections.


Jazz though, he is gorgeous. I only hope it follows in the line of Barricade and the Bumblebee MPM figures, and not Ironhide and Optimus....


Jazz will be bought, and I will pay full price for him.

The only reason I'm buying these two is because you can rip jazz in half

My God, they actually made Jazz split in two?! On one hand, it's sad that the most memorable thing Movie Jazz did was get brutally maimed and die, but on the other hand I'm looking forward to seeing how they make a ROTF Sideways that splits down the middle.

blackeyedprime wrote:Nothing about Megatron's Boy smelling action feature yet. Maybe the Sam figure is scratch and sniff... o.O

Glarryg

Ironhidensh wrote:As always, Megatron is hideous. There is no saving that design. I know it has its fans (and you are all lunatics! ), but movie Megatron figures will never have a slot in my collections.


Jazz though, he is gorgeous. I only hope it follows in the line of Barricade and the Bumblebee MPM figures, and not Ironhide and Optimus....


Jazz will be bought, and I will pay full price for him.

Eh, I think Megatron is beautifully designed and awesomely detailed but ok. Am not a lunatic even though I do have had some occasions where I've had a bit of a mental breakdown and people thought I may have been one. Who's gonna tear your Jazz in half then? :O

Holy balls! Jazz looks pretty incredible, except for the connection from his arm to his crescent cannon. That looos a bit wonky, but that’s probably just the angle we’re seeing it from.

Ironhidensh wrote:As always, Megatron is hideous. There is no saving that design. I know it has its fans (and you are all lunatics! ), but movie Megatron figures will never have a slot in my collections.

On the one hand, I’m totally with you on this, Densh. Movie 1 Megs always looked like a metal tree to me. His sillouhette is very plain, even if it is unique. ROTF Megs had a better sillouhette, but suffered from (a) having a mangled arm and (b) still having a lackluster Cybertronia mode. And DOTM Megs transformed into a POS which is hardly any fun. Honestly the only movie design for Megs I actually like is his TLK body. And when they make an MP figure for that, well...

But on the other hand, credit where credit is due, they certainly pulled off a fantastic likeness of Movie 1 Megs.

Nemesis Maximo wrote: And DOTM Megs transformed into a POS which is hardly any fun.

DotM Megs turns into a Mad Max-style truck which I consider pretty darn fun. Makes a nice change from tank (which always made the most sense but by this point just seems very overdone) or jet (and thankfully isn't any kind of gun which was always just moronic).

But on the other hand, credit where credit is due, they certainly pulled off a fantastic likeness of Movie 1 Megs.

That's cool. I've no love for the majority of G1 designs, example being the Seekers (which I have always hated mostly due to their stupid wings in robot mode which should be folded away neatly but instead are hanging out all impractical and could get damaged in battle making their alt-mode useless, I guess it's useful that for some inexplicable reason all the Decepticons could fly like Superman in the cartoon. Logic was always lacking in that show) but the MP figures do a nice job of recreating it all even if I don't care for them myself.

I still keep gazing at these pics. I really love the look of these figures (and previous MPMs) I need to win lottery tonight or something. I can only barely afford Studio Series figures. These things are too much for me. I could save up for each one but would take me forever and then I'd feel guilty for owning something so much more expensive than what I usually have for which serves no real purpose (a real car at least gets you out and about, well not me cos I'm probably never gonna be driving) and I'd be worried about breaking them. I treated myself to a 2nd hand Unique Toys Challenger at christmas as my only physical present and as awesome as it is it worries the heck out of me that it might fall over and break or something. Literally too scared to own expensive things in case they become totally worthless through an accident or something. :/

OK Megatron looks glorious! Although I do think they should use a more shiny metallic grey for his paint for the sake of movie accuracy, his colour now looks too dull for me. Man I've been waiting for MPM 2007 Megatron's reveal ever since rumours about it surfaced. Personally, 2007 Megatron is my most favourite live-action Megs. And I am not disappointed! Been planning to get SS 2007 Megatron (if they'll release it) because of budget but I'm having second thoughts. Oh welp time to save up my money!

SFBglord wrote:OK Megatron looks glorious! Although I do think they should use a more shiny metallic grey for his paint for the sake of movie accuracy, his colour now looks too dull for me. Man I've been waiting for MPM 2007 Megatron's reveal ever since rumours about it surfaced. Personally, 2007 Megatron is my most favourite live-action Megs. And I am not disappointed! Been planning to get SS 2007 Megatron (if they'll release it) because of budget but I'm having second thoughts. Oh welp time to save up my money!

Maybe they can downscale this MPM and simplify it where necessary to meet Studio Series requirements?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

SFBglord wrote:OK Megatron looks glorious! Although I do think they should use a more shiny metallic grey for his paint for the sake of movie accuracy, his colour now looks too dull for me. Man I've been waiting for MPM 2007 Megatron's reveal ever since rumours about it surfaced. Personally, 2007 Megatron is my most favourite live-action Megs. And I am not disappointed! Been planning to get SS 2007 Megatron (if they'll release it) because of budget but I'm having second thoughts. Oh welp time to save up my money!

Maybe they can downscale this MPM and simplify it where necessary to meet Studio Series requirements?

But we'll have to see if the MPM 2007 Megatron figure is as good as it looks. OH GOD PLEASE LET IT BE GOOD!

Carnivius_Prime wrote: Who's gonna tear your Jazz in half then? :O

No one. Jazz deserved better.

#jazzlivesmatter







Like I said, I hate movie Megatron, but he has his fans, and I'm happy that they are getting a figure they've always wanted. For me, he is a representation of everything I hate about the bayverse, and I won't ever be able to get past that. Kudos to those of you who like this though!


Now bring on MPM Ratchet! And Brawl! And Bonecrusher! And......

Ironhidensh wrote:#jazzlivesmatter

I smirked at that. But not sure if I should have.

Like I said, I hate movie Megatron, but he has his fans, and I'm happy that they are getting a figure they've always wanted. For me, he is a representation of everything I hate about the bayverse, and I won't ever be able to get past that. Kudos to those of you who like this though!

It's ironic cos I often use G1 Ironhide as an example of the overly-simplistic blocky designs I hate about the G1 cartoon even when I was an 80s kid (though somehow he's still better than his original toy cos that thing was beyond saving, no matter what silly lil add-ons later releases tried to give him a head. G1 Jazz bugged me a lot cos I really liked his toy at the time and the details on it but I hated his cartoon design being so simplified they even left off the door wings that Prowl and his 'clones' kept)

Now bring on MPM Ratchet! And Brawl! And Bonecrusher! And......

Oh Ratchet should be cool. He's one of my fave designs (enjoyed painting up my Studio figure to look more accurate). I dunno about Brawl and Bonecrusher. They're cool but apparently I haven't liked them enough to even buy their Studio Series figures yet (ok Bonecrusher's only been available very spottily for the past month or so but Brawl's been out almost a year and I've yet to see him reduced in price enough to make me want it despite owning most of the SS figures).


What are the issues on MPM Ironhide by the way? I've heard his torso section is fiddly and doesn't lock very well (previous voyager figures had torso issues too, the Studio one is the first one out of many I've had where it all secures very nicely). Is it things that can be fixed?

Meh. Megatron looks bad and jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed. The ripping in half gimmick is cool but I keep looking at the mpm's and just thinking "what's the point?" Studio Series is doing everything the masterpiece line is but cheaper and smaller. To each their own I guess but I personally don't see the reason to collect both lines.

steals_your_goats wrote:Meh. Megatron looks bad and jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed. The ripping in half gimmick is cool but I keep looking at the mpm's and just thinking "what's the point?" Studio Series is doing everything the masterpiece line is but cheaper and smaller. To each their own I guess but I personally don't see the reason to collect both lines.

Uh. Might need to get your eyes checked. That Jazz is nothing like the Studio Series figure (which I like too but is vastly more simplified and inaccurate compared to this one).

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Meh. Megatron looks bad and jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed. The ripping in half gimmick is cool but I keep looking at the mpm's and just thinking "what's the point?" Studio Series is doing everything the masterpiece line is but cheaper and smaller. To each their own I guess but I personally don't see the reason to collect both lines.

Uh. Might need to get your eyes checked. That Jazz is nothing like the Studio Series figure (which I like too but is vastly more simplified and inaccurate compared to this one).

I actually just had eye surgery two days ago but I can see just fine and they're basically the same thing. I get it, you're a hardcore movie fan boy but not everyone is. I'm just sharing my opinion about what I see, the same exact way you do for generations figures.

steals_your_goats wrote:I actually just had eye surgery two days ago but I can see just fine and they're basically the same thing. I get it, you're a hardcore movie fan boy but not everyone is. I'm just sharing my opinion about what I see, the same exact way you do for generations figures.

Look closer then! You're saying it's the Studio figure just bigger. It's not, it's extremely different in engineering and transformation. For one thing, it has an accurate 'backpack' with the spoiler ending up behind his head, on the Studio figure he simply has the whole roof of the car draping down his back with the spoiler ending up tucked up behind his butt. The arms are totally different with the headlights ending up on the cuffs where they should be, whereas the SS fig has them on the shoulders (meaning the SS has the arms totally the wrong way round yet somehow the wheels end up in correct place on both figures), The SS has stubby feet and the shin pads for some reason tilt with the feet rather than being attached to the lower legs, on the MPM there you can see he has extremely accurate feet with all the lil extra pointy bits. And the MPM has the collar pieces standing up either side of the front of the head, whereas on SS they're flat, sculpted parts of the top. The round headlights end up upside down on the SS figure whereas on the MPM they are correct way up. It's a completely new figure nothing to do with the SS figure and any similarity just comes from both being based on the same character design.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I actually just had eye surgery two days ago but I can see just fine and they're basically the same thing. I get it, you're a hardcore movie fan boy but not everyone is. I'm just sharing my opinion about what I see, the same exact way you do for generations figures.

Look closer then! You're saying it's the Studio figure just bigger. It's not, it's extremely different in engineering and transformation. For one thing, it has an accurate 'backpack' with the spoiler ending up behind his head, on the Studio figure he simply has the whole roof of the car draping down his back with the spoiler ending up tucked up behind his butt. The arms are totally different with the headlights ending up on the cuffs where they should be, whereas the SS fig has them on the shoulders (meaning the SS has the arms totally the wrong way round yet somehow the wheels end up in correct place on both figures), The SS has stubby feet and the shin pads for some reason tilt with the feet rather than being attached to the lower legs, on the MPM there you can see he has extremely accurate feet with all the lil extra pointy bits. And the MPM has the collar pieces standing up either side of the front of the head, whereas on SS they're flat, sculpted parts of the top. The round headlights end up upside down on the SS figure whereas on the MPM they are correct way up. It's a completely new figure nothing to do with the SS figure and any similarity just comes from both being based on the same character design.

Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
What are the issues on MPM Ironhide by the way? I've heard his torso section is fiddly and doesn't lock very well (previous voyager figures had torso issues too, the Studio one is the first one out of many I've had where it all secures very nicely). Is it things that can be fixed?

Its all a tabbing issue. In robot mode, his door panels won't tab into is wrists and just hang loose and floppy, and his shoulder/arm tabbing design is a huge mess.

steals_your_goats wrote:Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.

I was just correcting your extremely inaccurate and bullcrap statement. You're the one acting like a jerk here. You said "jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed." which is clearly factually WRONG.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.

I was just correcting your extremely inaccurate and bullcrap statement. You're the one acting like a jerk here. You said "jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed." which is clearly factually WRONG.

It's clearly hyperbole but okay, I'm a jerk for expressing discontent for a figure. Pot meet kettle.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.

I was just correcting your extremely inaccurate and bullcrap statement. You're the one acting like a jerk here. You said "jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed." which is clearly factually WRONG.

It's clearly hyperbole but okay, I'm a jerk for expressing discontent for a figure. Pot meet kettle.

Jeez. I tried to stay calm. I gave you a list of reasons why your statement was wildly inaccurate which you basically ignore and instead insult me. 'Nice' to meet you, Mr President.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Dude I honestly couldn't care any less. Obviously it's not the same figure but TO ME there's no reason to own both. Stop jumping down my throat just because I'm not salivating over this like you are.

I was just correcting your extremely inaccurate and bullcrap statement. You're the one acting like a jerk here. You said "jazz is just the studio Series figure but blown up and sightly more detailed." which is clearly factually WRONG.

It's clearly hyperbole but okay, I'm a jerk for expressing discontent for a figure. Pot meet kettle.

Jeez. I tried to stay calm. I gave you a list of reasons why your statement was wildly inaccurate which you basically ignore and instead insult me. 'Nice' to meet you, Mr President.

If you think fan boy is an insult then that's your problem. I refer to myself a a fanboy all the time. You're the one who straight up called me a jerk and said I needed my eyes checked. And I never asked for a list of differences, you did that on your own. I was just expressing my opinion THE SAME WAY YOU DO IN GENERATIONS THREADS. So I'm done with this.

Okay , back to the figures...

I like the Jazz-man, but with a new house and fitting my husband's library onto bookshelves I don't think I'll have the room or money for him. In the pictures though, I have to wonder about tabbing issues, which thankfully I've avoided on OP and Ironhide. Namely on the passenger side door there is a slight gap there, but with the legendary miss-transformations for any and all the pictures/pre-releases it could be attributed to that. His arm where his shield-gun (gun-shield?) is attached does have a little wonkiness to its appearance.

Megsy, is well Megsy, and I'm not a fan of the movie designs aside from TLK. I love Hugo Weaving's performance as Megs, and the horrible lines that are fun to quote, but I just don't like the Decepticon designs from the first four movies. Either way on the figure, I'm also having issues with the front of the jet's prongs(?). Once again the miss-transformations I believe strike again as I feel like if it were to be flipped over all we would see is a jumbled mess of his claw(gripper? hemostat?)fingers.

Hallelujah! This is awesome! Megatron looks fantastic and Jazz just oozes perfection. I'd buy them both but my budget won't let me . The fact that Jazz can RIP in half is just amazing, and it doesn't look like it would make for a poor connection either. Megatron has a little backpack but I don't care! These two have to be the definitive versions if their characters respectively.

I am not really into Masterpiece figures, but after seeing this Megatron I think I will be getting him along with MPM-04 Prime. I hope this means we will be getting a studio series figure of 07 Megatron later this year or the next.

The Jazz looks really good and I love that he splits in half, but I am more than pleased with my studio series Jazz.

Finally - a Megatron figure that I DON'T want! Ugh. No matter how much more care they take with that horrible Bayverse design, it'll always look like a mangled pile of used brillo. If other people like it, I won't take that away from them. He's all yours!