Shia Labeouf Talks Transformers 3

SlyTF1 wrote:Damn! Even the main actor in ROTF doesnt like it! And think its the greatest movie of all time! Does this mean my mind is utterly f*ked!?

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Damn! Even the main actor in ROTF doesnt like it! And think its the greatest movie of all time! Does this mean my mind is utterly f*ked!?

Nah, you're just young. You'll understand the values of characterization and proper storytelling when you age. Right now you're easily satisfied with explosions, and that's okay.

Trust me, I remember that age well enough.

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Damn! Even the main actor in ROTF doesnt like it! And think its the greatest movie of all time! Does this mean my mind is utterly f*ked!?

Nah, you're just young. You'll understand the values of characterization and proper storytelling when you age. Right now you're easily satisfied with explosions, and that's okay.

Trust me, I remember that age well enough.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Damn! Even the main actor in ROTF doesnt like it! And think its the greatest movie of all time! Does this mean my mind is utterly f*ked!?

Nah, you're just young. You'll understand the values of characterization and proper storytelling when you age. Right now you're easily satisfied with explosions, and that's okay.

Trust me, I remember that age well enough.

I'm 27 and I loved it. I have no doubts the 3rd one will be better though. Believe it or not Bay listened to the criticisms of the first movie and improved it in RotF. More focus on the robots, better camera work, Optimus put up a fight. Plus there won't be a writer's strike this time rushing production.

SlyTF1 wrote:Damn! Even the main actor in ROTF doesnt like it! And think its the greatest movie of all time! Does this mean my mind is utterly f*ked!?

ConBotFormer wrote:Let’s look at something very interesting. Bay said, “you can’t make a TransFormers movie without any humans.” Well, why not? At first you think, you need it to be relatable to the viewers, right? Sure, but that doesn’t mean that the movies have to be dominated by humans.

ConBotFormer wrote:Let’s look at some really big box office hits that had little to no humans.

1. Toy Story, now this movie was huge. Made lots of money. And yes, there were humans in it but not all the time. How could we relate to toys? The toys were very human themselves, they had emotions and not to mention most had human like forms.

2. Cars. Really? Cars? Yes, this movie was another big hit and there were NO humans in this film. How could we relate to a car? Same thing as Toy Story. They had human emotions and had problems in their lives that they had to deal with. We can all relate, it really is that simple.

3. The Lion King, same thing people. No humans, but the animals were very human in their personalities and so, relatable.

4. Finding Nemo, need I say more?

Blurrz wrote:

ConBotFormer wrote:Let’s look at something very interesting. Bay said, “you can’t make a TransFormers movie without any humans.” Well, why not? At first you think, you need it to be relatable to the viewers, right? Sure, but that doesn’t mean that the movies have to be dominated by humans.

Cars, Lion King.. whatever, Toy Story and Finding Nemo even had humans, so I don't get your point saying that one. It's just that Transformers for the past TWENTY FIVE years has not been without Humans, other than the Beast Era. Transformers coming to Earth is the essence of the Transformers lore. You can't change that. And when they're on Earth in a LIVE-ACTION FILM, do you expect there to be little to no human interaction? What.. the Autobots and Decepticons are going to battle on some iceberg in the Arctic?

Let's be realistic here. Humans are required for a Transformers movie. They're going to look better in TF3 because we have better writer. End of story.

First-Aid wrote:

ConBotFormer wrote:Let’s look at some really big box office hits that had little to no humans.

1. Toy Story, now this movie was huge. Made lots of money. And yes, there were humans in it but not all the time. How could we relate to toys? The toys were very human themselves, they had emotions and not to mention most had human like forms.

2. Cars. Really? Cars? Yes, this movie was another big hit and there were NO humans in this film. How could we relate to a car? Same thing as Toy Story. They had human emotions and had problems in their lives that they had to deal with. We can all relate, it really is that simple.

3. The Lion King, same thing people. No humans, but the animals were very human in their personalities and so, relatable.

4. Finding Nemo, need I say more?

Notice anything about your list? Toy Story? Kids movie. Cars? Kids movie. Lion King? Kids movie. Finding Nemo? (mediocre) kids movie. Kids are simply more open minded than adults; they have minds that for allow the possibility of talking cars, taking fish, imaginary friends, etc. If you were to say one of these movies waas aimed at the 18-34 crowd, you would be LAUGHED out of Hollywood. It is an ENTIRELY different audience. You simply CANNOT compare the current TF films to any of these because they are aimed at two very differing target audiences, any more than you can compare Citizen Kane to Mickey Mouse.

Autobot032 wrote:Ah, I just love it when people act like Roger Ebert, and tell us we have no taste, no class, and basically limited intelligence because we liked the movie. (That's sarcasm, btw)

And almost everyone in the fandom was enraged and offended by his words.

Now, they not only echo them, they make them worse by adding that someone must be too young to appreciate finer works. Really? So now they're too young to know better and be smarter about their movie going experiences?

Do you have any idea how incredibly rude that is?

I'm 29 years old, and I've enjoyed movies from every genre, some downright stupid, some incredibly mind blowing, and I loved ROTF. I saw it for what it was: A good old fashioned sci-fi action adventure flick. And it delivered. It was funny, it had cool scenes and giant robots, and it's based off of a cartoon that has the depth of a puddle. So, expecting the movies to be Oscar caliber, thought provoking, heart wrenching epic Odysseys, makes you look far more foolish than it does us, because we watched the movies for what they were, and expected nothing more, and no one really should.

Some people enjoyed it, some didn't. That's fine. But you should be able to feel how you feel without someone critiquing who you are as a person, and where you are mentally as they do it. But, it's been proven time and again that we can't, that no one can have their opinion in peace. Fine, you want to be that way? Well I wipe crap off of my shoes with your opinion, and then PISS on it because that's what it deserves.

And you, the person, don't deserve much better, because you crossed a line when you called people stupid and too immature to appreciate the "fine" art of cinema.

Grown men and women on a message board devoted to collecting TOYS, talking about a maturity level and stupidity? What a bunch of friggin' hypocrites you are. We're here for the FUN, you're here for the...well, to be honest, I'm not really sure what you're gaining out of this, it's actually kind of pathetic.

No. It's quite pathetic, actually.

Autobot032 wrote:Ah, I just love it when people act like Roger Ebert, and tell us we have no taste, no class, and basically limited intelligence because we liked the movie. (That's sarcasm, btw)

And almost everyone in the fandom was enraged and offended by his words.

Now, they not only echo them, they make them worse by adding that someone must be too young to appreciate finer works. Really? So now they're too young to know better and be smarter about their movie going experiences?

Do you have any idea how incredibly rude that is?

I'm 29 years old, and I've enjoyed movies from every genre, some downright stupid, some incredibly mind blowing, and I loved ROTF. I saw it for what it was: A good old fashioned sci-fi action adventure flick. And it delivered. It was funny, it had cool scenes and giant robots, and it's based off of a cartoon that has the depth of a puddle. So, expecting the movies to be Oscar caliber, thought provoking, heart wrenching epic Odysseys, makes you look far more foolish than it does us, because we watched the movies for what they were, and expected nothing more, and no one really should.

Some people enjoyed it, some didn't. That's fine. But you should be able to feel how you feel without someone critiquing who you are as a person, and where you are mentally as they do it. But, it's been proven time and again that we can't, that no one can have their opinion in peace. Fine, you want to be that way? Well I wipe crap off of my shoes with your opinion, and then PISS on it because that's what it deserves.

And you, the person, don't deserve much better, because you crossed a line when you called people stupid and too immature to appreciate the "fine" art of cinema.

Grown men and women on a message board devoted to collecting TOYS, talking about a maturity level and stupidity? What a bunch of friggin' hypocrites you are. We're here for the FUN, you're here for the...well, to be honest, I'm not really sure what you're gaining out of this, it's actually kind of pathetic.

No. It's quite pathetic, actually.

D-340 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Ah, I just love it when people act like Roger Ebert, and tell us we have no taste, no class, and basically limited intelligence because we liked the movie. (That's sarcasm, btw)

And almost everyone in the fandom was enraged and offended by his words.

Now, they not only echo them, they make them worse by adding that someone must be too young to appreciate finer works. Really? So now they're too young to know better and be smarter about their movie going experiences?

Do you have any idea how incredibly rude that is?

I'm 29 years old, and I've enjoyed movies from every genre, some downright stupid, some incredibly mind blowing, and I loved ROTF. I saw it for what it was: A good old fashioned sci-fi action adventure flick. And it delivered. It was funny, it had cool scenes and giant robots, and it's based off of a cartoon that has the depth of a puddle. So, expecting the movies to be Oscar caliber, thought provoking, heart wrenching epic Odysseys, makes you look far more foolish than it does us, because we watched the movies for what they were, and expected nothing more, and no one really should.

Some people enjoyed it, some didn't. That's fine. But you should be able to feel how you feel without someone critiquing who you are as a person, and where you are mentally as they do it. But, it's been proven time and again that we can't, that no one can have their opinion in peace. Fine, you want to be that way? Well I wipe crap off of my shoes with your opinion, and then PISS on it because that's what it deserves.

And you, the person, don't deserve much better, because you crossed a line when you called people stupid and too immature to appreciate the "fine" art of cinema.

Grown men and women on a message board devoted to collecting TOYS, talking about a maturity level and stupidity? What a bunch of friggin' hypocrites you are. We're here for the FUN, you're here for the...well, to be honest, I'm not really sure what you're gaining out of this, it's actually kind of pathetic.

No. It's quite pathetic, actually.

That's kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it? "I don't like the movie and you're stupid cuz you do." "Yeah, well, I like the movie and you're pathetic cuz you don't." Sounds like pointless bickering to me. You like it, cool. You don't, cool. End of story.

But the whole, "It's based on a cartoon/toyline, so don't expect it to be good" argument annoys me to no end. Look at X-men 1 and 2, Spiderman 1 and 2, and Ironman. By your reasoning, these should've been crappy movies too. Because comic books, though enjoyed by adults as much as kids, are for the most part marketed to a younger audience. But, those movies were generally well received by fans, critics, and the general public because they were good movies. I ain't askin' for Oscars outta Transformers, but a little plot and focus on the title characters(last I checked the movies aren't called Sam, Mikeala, Sam's parents and the Transformers) would be nice.

vegetacron wrote:The story thus far:

Prowl: I like ROTF!
Skywarp: Man, screw you! That movie sucked and you are freakin moron for saying you liked it!
Autobot032: No, screw you for calling Prowl a "freaking moron" for his/her personal taste in movies!
Skyhopper: Man, i just really, REALLY dislike Topher Grace as an actor.
Terrible Terry Tate: YOU CAN'T MAKE A PASS AND TOUCH PABLO'S ASS! THATS OLD SCHOOL BABY! WOOOOOOO!
Megatron: Can i stay an airplane/tank thing rather than a gun? It makes air fare cheaper and i don't hafta have other Decepticons grope me in order to shoot my gun.
Optimus Prime: Ahhh crap...I wonder if they're gonna kill me in this next movie AGAIN.
Rodimus Prime: Dude, how the hell ya gonna have emo rock stars like Linkin Park be in the sound track without me in there setting the emo ambiance??? Wait, i know, i'm just not cut out for being an actor. They should just get someone else. /longingly hard, exhaustive sigh
Ultra Magnus: Its ok Rodimus! Medocrity is the spice of life!
Ultra Magnus: (Whispers to Wheelie): Plus, my ass got blown apart in the movie for bein the leader. Ain't no way in hell i'm dying and gettin resurrected over and over for this sh!7.
Taco Bell Dog: They promised me a cameo with Mojo.....
Hasbro: HAHA! AND WE SHALL MAKE OUR ADULT FANBASE WATCH KIDS CARTOONS AND BUY OUT TOYS FOREVER! MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!
Spider-Man: Spidey sense tingling! Terrible movie reinvention on my IP is being created!
Batman: Dude, my reinvention rocked.
Wreck-Gar: TROJAN MAAAAN!
Leonard Nimoy: Yeah, screw all this. I'm retiring.
Dead Metal: That's kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?
Me: I think you missed his point. He was saying screw all people who are criticizing fans posting here that like ROTF.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Damn! Even the main actor in ROTF doesnt like it! And think its the greatest movie of all time! Does this mean my mind is utterly f*ked!?

Nah, you're just young. You'll understand the values of characterization and proper storytelling when you age. Right now you're easily satisfied with explosions, and that's okay.

Trust me, I remember that age well enough.

I'm 27 and I loved it. I have no doubts the 3rd one will be better though. Believe it or not Bay listened to the criticisms of the first movie and improved it in RotF. More focus on the robots, better camera work, Optimus put up a fight. Plus there won't be a writer's strike this time rushing production.

Thats what Im saying. everything that people said he got wrong with the first one, he got right with the second, but everyone still hates it. No one is happy

Autobot032 wrote:
So, expecting the movies to be Oscar caliber, thought provoking, heart wrenching epic Odysseys, makes you look far more foolish than it does us, because we watched the movies for what they were, and expected nothing more, and no one really should.