Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores

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What might probably be the biggest news of the week has possibly given us another rather big reveal, unintentionally. We just newsed the first look at the Transformers reboot from IDW. In it, we see art of the Siege toys, down to swivels, pegs and pins. We can see Starscream, Megatron and of course Optimus. However, the Optimus body used in the picture is not the Siege voyager toy from wave 1. Instead, Optimus Prime is sproting the body of the inner voyager from the leader class Ultra Magnus. The chest looks retooled but still has a similar shape and a bigger giveaway is the tab near his feet.

We know that the only other leader class toy from Siege will be Optimus Prime and this may be our very first look at the inner robot. Which would mean that Siege leader class Optimus Prime would be a redeco/retool of Ultra Magnus. Of course, this is just speculation, but with such an attention to the toy details, we did want to bring it to your attention.

Also, in Transformers Siege news, Walmarts in Canada recieved a specialized display from Hasbro to highlight the toys. All classes, except for leaders, can be found on a two story carbdoard display stand with Siege art. You can see it below.

Transformers News: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores

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Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999622)
Posted by Octobotimus on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:08pm CST

of course he's just going to be a repaint of ultra magnus....

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999624)
Posted by notsoalex on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:11pm CST

That's Cybertron Optimus' truck front on that Optimus' chest!

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999625)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:12pm CST

Octobotimus wrote:of course he's just going to be a repaint of ultra magnus....

Not quite a repaint - the chest is retooled, and resembles more Cybertron Prime's truck mode than RID Magnus's (as Ultra Magnus's does), which is likely indicative of retooling for the trailer/larger bot mode as well.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999626)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:13pm CST

notirishman wrote:That's Cybertron Optimus' truck front on that Optimus' chest!

And there we have it folks! :-D

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999629)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:20pm CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just have them adapt Defiance into a movie.

Didnt read that comic but I heard it was awesome.
It wasn't a comic, it was a book. (Unless there is a comic and I'm not aware?) And yes, it was pretty good.

Nuh uh. Defiance was a comic series.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999630)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:25pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
notirishman wrote:That's Cybertron Optimus' truck front on that Optimus' chest!

And there we have it folks!

Yep. The angled shapes of those windows and the roof of the cab... I'd know those anywhere.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999632)
Posted by Absolute Zero on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:27pm CST

Isn't Siege Ultra Magnus just a repaint/redeco of the Prime already in the line?

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999633)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:28pm CST

Absolute Zero wrote:Isn't Siege Ultra Magnus just a repaint/redeco of the Prime already in the line?

See for yourself in the news post's comparison photo.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999634)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:28pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
notirishman wrote:That's Cybertron Optimus' truck front on that Optimus' chest!

And there we have it folks!

Yep. The angled shapes of those windows and the roof of the cab... I'd know those anywhere.

Yes! I really hope that's actually the plan here, cause as much as I want that figure, the size is just too big for my current collection. A new, smaller version would be very much welcomed

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999636)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:37pm CST

Now that I think about it, SIEGE Magnus' secondary guns (the twin black ones) bear more than a passing resemblance to Cybertron Optimus' calf guns.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999637)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 18th, 2018 @ 11:50pm CST

Absolute Zero wrote:Isn't Siege Ultra Magnus just a repaint/redeco of the Prime already in the line?

Not remotely; everything from the thighs to the legs to the forearms to the shoulders to (of course) the torso and everything else is different; the only thing that might even possibly be the same mold is the head.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999639)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 19th, 2018 @ 12:11am CST

Cybertron Prime? And it combines proper?

Uh, yes please, right now :DANCE:

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999641)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on December 19th, 2018 @ 1:34am CST

Another super Optimus? Not interested. Not with a good PotP leader with Orion Pax, and a beautiful Siege voyager.

Edit: Cybertron Prime though? Uh.. Well.. Now I like it slightly more.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999642)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 19th, 2018 @ 1:35am CST

While I'm happy we're possibly getting an update to Cybertron Prime, it's the second line in a row where we were close to getting a proper PMOP.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999672)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 19th, 2018 @ 6:18am CST

Imagine if this Cybertron influenced Prime could then combine with Rid influenced UM, to create omega prime? Do you think Warden would do that to prove he's not just a G1 purist?

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999675)
Posted by william-james88 on December 19th, 2018 @ 6:27am CST

ZeroWolf wrote:Imagine if this Cybertron influenced Prime could then combine with Rid influenced UM, to create omega prime? Do you think Warden would do that to prove he's not just a G1 purist?

I am pretty sure he does not feel like he has to prove anything other than the fact that he can design good toys.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999699)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2018 @ 8:57am CST

ZeroWolf wrote:Imagine if this Cybertron influenced Prime could then combine with Rid influenced UM, to create omega prime? Do you think Warden would do that to prove he's not just a G1 purist?

That would probably depend on if you could combine two Siege Ultra Magnus toys together, since both it and Optimus are the same base mold.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999706)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 19th, 2018 @ 9:22am CST

william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Imagine if this Cybertron influenced Prime could then combine with Rid influenced UM, to create omega prime? Do you think Warden would do that to prove he's not just a G1 purist?

I am pretty sure he does not feel like he has to prove anything other than the fact that he can design good toys.

Ehhhhhhh...personally I give him 50-50. While a good deal of the Titans Return Line has some of my favorite figures recently, POTP does almost nothing for me. Combined Wars also had good figures, but was made up soooo many repaints. I understand it was necessary, but mold fatigue was real for me. Siege has some good stuff, but then again there’s no Beast Wars love happening outside of MPs so that gets me down.

YMMV of course, this is all just my opinion.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999714)
Posted by frogbat on December 19th, 2018 @ 9:34am CST

If it's a straight Magnus repaint I'll pass...

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999717)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2018 @ 9:37am CST

frogbat wrote:If it's a straight Magnus repaint I'll pass...

It's not.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999721)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on December 19th, 2018 @ 9:43am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
frogbat wrote:If it's a straight Magnus repaint I'll pass...
It's not.

Well, we don't know that for sure. It is, after all, an artist's interpretation and not an actual photo.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999723)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 19th, 2018 @ 9:44am CST

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
frogbat wrote:If it's a straight Magnus repaint I'll pass...
It's not.

Well, we don't know that for sure. It is, after all, an artist's interpretation and not an actual photo.

It may be a drawing, but it's so anal-retentively toy accurate that it has the thigh hollows and the forearm screwholes. And the angled shapes of the chest windows and cab roof are an obvious deliberate difference.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Imagine if this Cybertron influenced Prime could then combine with Rid influenced UM, to create omega prime? Do you think Warden would do that to prove he's not just a G1 purist?

I am pretty sure he does not feel like he has to prove anything other than the fact that he can design good toys.

Ehhhhhhh...personally I give him 50-50. While a good deal of the Titans Return Line has some of my favorite figures recently, POTP does almost nothing for me. Combined Wars also had good figures, but was made up soooo many repaints. I understand it was necessary, but mold fatigue was real for me. Siege has some good stuff, but then again there’s no Beast Wars love happening outside of MPs so that gets me down.

YMMV of course, this is all just my opinion.

Well, CHUG has by and large been new G1 stuff ever since its beginnings with the Classics line in 2006; that was its big raison d'etre. We did get a new Dinobot in Universe (although he's rarespensive now), a new Rattrap, Rhinox, and Waspinator in Thrilling 30, and just recently a new if kinda dumbed-down Optimal Optimus in POTP so there's that at least (Universe Cheetor doesn't count because he's a messy mashup of Cheetor's original and Transmetal bodies).

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999735)
Posted by william-james88 on December 19th, 2018 @ 10:02am CST

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Well, we don't know that for sure. It is, after all, an artist's interpretation and not an actual photo.

The art really looks like the artist interpreted nothing and just copied what he saw on the toys.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999737)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 19th, 2018 @ 10:04am CST

Yeah but we only got Optimal Optimus Primal because he won the fan vote.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999738)
Posted by frogbat on December 19th, 2018 @ 10:05am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
frogbat wrote:If it's a straight Magnus repaint I'll pass...
It's not.

Granted the image here isn't a straight repaint but it could user artistic license and could be based on prototypes, but my issue wouldn't be with the cab but the rest of the toy. If the final leader class OP is basically a slightly remoulded UM especially the trailer I'll do my wallet a favour and pass.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999739)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on December 19th, 2018 @ 10:05am CST

Just grabbed Megatron off of Amazon for 29.99! He's already gone.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999745)
Posted by galvatron00 on December 19th, 2018 @ 10:47am CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:that was its big raison d'etre.

Fancy.

So, like many of you, I'm seeing the Ultra Magnus inner bot from the waist down and Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus' cab front as the chest.

WHERE'S THE ALT MODE RENDITION?!

Also, since that "inner bot" is voyager sized, it works properly with the possible voyager sized Megatron in the artist rendition!! Huzzah!!

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999747)
Posted by ThunderThruster on December 19th, 2018 @ 10:48am CST

If the forthcoming Leader Optimus is a re-use/mold of Magnus, we should in theory be able to swap trailer armors for them.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999748)
Posted by galvatron00 on December 19th, 2018 @ 10:50am CST

ThunderThruster wrote:If the forthcoming Leader Optimus is a re-use/mold of Magnus, we should in theory be able to swap trailer armors for them.

Possibly just the pants. This is all totes speculative though! Hooray possibilities until our dreams are destroyed!!

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999756)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 19th, 2018 @ 11:55am CST

itscramtastic wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:that was its big raison d'etre.
Fancy.

So, like many of you, I'm seeing the Ultra Magnus inner bot from the waist down and Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus' cab front as the chest.

WHERE'S THE ALT MODE RENDITION?!

Also, since that "inner bot" is voyager sized, it works properly with the possible voyager sized Megatron in the artist rendition!! Huzzah!!

Isn’t that the existing Voyager Megs from Siege?

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999757)
Posted by galvatron00 on December 19th, 2018 @ 11:58am CST

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:Also, since that "inner bot" is voyager sized, it works properly with the possible voyager sized Megatron in the artist rendition!! Huzzah!!
Isn’t that the existing Voyager Megs from Siege?

Looks like it to me, which is why I mentioned it, but it is an artist's rendition after all so who really knows which Megatron they are using for inspiration..other than the Siege one. :lol:

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999764)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2018 @ 12:46pm CST

itscramtastic wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:Also, since that "inner bot" is voyager sized, it works properly with the possible voyager sized Megatron in the artist rendition!! Huzzah!!
Isn’t that the existing Voyager Megs from Siege?
Looks like it to me, which is why I mentioned it, but it is an artist's rendition after all so who really knows which Megatron they are using for inspiration..other than the Siege one.

Every character seen in the new IDW artwork is (besides Windblade) drawn as their Siege toy designs, right down to Shockwave having all of his little attachments in altmode. There is no question about these being the Siege toys in art form (save for, again, Windblade) rather than some sort of "artist interpretations".

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999767)
Posted by Overcracker on December 19th, 2018 @ 12:51pm CST

Definitely aiming for the Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus Prime vibe there.

I wonder if that means a new winged trailer to match?

Looks good. I may pass on Voyager Prime, since I have not picked him up, and just get leader Prime and Magnus for the face-off shelf.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999773)
Posted by galvatron00 on December 19th, 2018 @ 1:12pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:Also, since that "inner bot" is voyager sized, it works properly with the possible voyager sized Megatron in the artist rendition!! Huzzah!!
Isn’t that the existing Voyager Megs from Siege?
Looks like it to me, which is why I mentioned it, but it is an artist's rendition after all so who really knows which Megatron they are using for inspiration..other than the Siege one.
Every character seen in the new IDW artwork is (besides Windblade) drawn as their Siege toy designs, right down to Shockwave having all of his little attachments in altmode. There is no question about these being the Siege toys in art form (save for, again, Windblade) rather than some sort of "artist interpretations".

Exactly.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999794)
Posted by Emerje on December 19th, 2018 @ 4:02pm CST

frogbat wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
frogbat wrote:If it's a straight Magnus repaint I'll pass...
It's not.

Granted the image here isn't a straight repaint but it could user artistic license and could be based on prototypes, but my issue wouldn't be with the cab but the rest of the toy. If the final leader class OP is basically a slightly remoulded UM especially the trailer I'll do my wallet a favour and pass.

I don't see why they would use artistic license or a prototype when there's a perfectly fine standard Voyager they could have used instead. Also even us on the outside have known about Voyager Prime since likely before this art was conceived and this comic is clearly intended to tell the story of the toy line so why would they use a stand-in for Prime of all characters? It really doesn't add up and has to represent something that's actually in the works.

Emerje

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999795)
Posted by Skritz on December 19th, 2018 @ 4:32pm CST

I'm really curious to see Leader Prime now since there is a good chance the 'super robot' mode will rock. However, sadly, there is a good chance I'll have to pass on him for budget/space reason. This is funny because after ragging on and on about GEEWUN PURITY I ended up with getting the Siege Voyager Prime in spite of thinking that he make for a really poor 'cybertronian prime' with the intent of displaying him more for his mostly G1-accurate robot mode.

Leader Prime might end up looking really damn solid and more to my tastes for somwhat more 'exotic' Optimus Primes but I'm not sure since he'd be really, really redundant by that point. Decision, decision. I suppose if I like the 'Leader' (more like Voyager+Extra, really) mold more I could always paint the Voyager one as Nemesis Prime, Toxitron or Shattered Glass Prime. :-?

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999811)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 19th, 2018 @ 5:57pm CST

Here's hoping leader Prime ends up as a new Cybertron Prime, that would be awesome!

Yep, definitely waiting on Optimus and Magnus, see what the leader Prime gives us. And what the G2 snow camo Megatron looks like before picking that one up

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999818)
Posted by Skritz on December 19th, 2018 @ 6:09pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Here's hoping leader Prime ends up as a new Cybertron Prime, that would be awesome!

Yep, definitely waiting on Optimus and Magnus, see what the leader Prime gives us. And what the G2 snow camo Megatron looks like before picking that one up

I know it would have pissed off purist but I would have loved a Leader Prime with the open mouthplate on the smaller robot. It's a look for Optimus I frankly miss, as modern mouthed Optimus go for the fully exposed mouth and nose of Movie Optimus Prime and the only other Optimus who ever rocked that look properly is Animated and that's purely because it helped make him look younger and more approachable.

Personally I'm much more a fan of opening mouthplates which remain visible rather than fully retracting but that could just be the Beast Wars fan in me being used to that look first.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999821)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 19th, 2018 @ 6:12pm CST

Skritz wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Here's hoping leader Prime ends up as a new Cybertron Prime, that would be awesome!

Yep, definitely waiting on Optimus and Magnus, see what the leader Prime gives us. And what the G2 snow camo Megatron looks like before picking that one up

I know it would have pissed off purist but I would have loved a Leader Prime with the open mouthplate on the smaller robot. It's a look for Optimus I frankly miss, as modern mouthed Optimus go for the fully exposed mouth and nose of Movie Optimus Prime and the only other Optimus who ever rocked that look properly is Animated and that's purely because it helped make him look younger and more approachable.

Personally I'm much more a fan of opening mouthplates which remain visible rather than fully retracting but that could just be the Beast Wars fan in me being used to that look first.

Everytime I think of the slit mouthplate, I think of Primal, even seeing Cybertron Prime with that slit in the plate, I think of Primal.

but i agree, it would be cool to see more of those "half-opened" mouthplates

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999823)
Posted by Skritz on December 19th, 2018 @ 6:18pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Here's hoping leader Prime ends up as a new Cybertron Prime, that would be awesome!

Yep, definitely waiting on Optimus and Magnus, see what the leader Prime gives us. And what the G2 snow camo Megatron looks like before picking that one up

I know it would have pissed off purist but I would have loved a Leader Prime with the open mouthplate on the smaller robot. It's a look for Optimus I frankly miss, as modern mouthed Optimus go for the fully exposed mouth and nose of Movie Optimus Prime and the only other Optimus who ever rocked that look properly is Animated and that's purely because it helped make him look younger and more approachable.

Personally I'm much more a fan of opening mouthplates which remain visible rather than fully retracting but that could just be the Beast Wars fan in me being used to that look first.

Everytime I think of the slit mouthplate, I think of Primal, even seeing Cybertron Prime with that slit in the plate, I think of Primal.

but i agree, it would be cool to see more of those "half-opened" mouthplates

Primal started the look, for sure, but it's been present here-and-there in Optimus Prime's various incarnations: the Energon Optimus Prime toy initially had a slitted mouthplate so one could argue that the design did float around a bit for the Unicron Trilogy Optimus Prime. Ultimately I get that it's very much Primal's 'thing' but I always liked it over a fully exposed mouth. Optimus Prime designs are defined by that samurai-esque mouth guard and having one which split open to allow an exposed mouth is a good compromise.

The reason I brought it up is that it's one neat detail I'd love to see in a figure that is a Cybertron Optimus/Galaxy Convoy homage.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999853)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2018 @ 7:16pm CST

A dreadful thought just crossed my mind about this new Leader Optimus.

Recall how the new Ultra Magnus is RiD/Car Robots-based in only its vehicle mode, with its robot mode instead being very un-RiD/Car Robots-based. Knowing how this current Hasbro team seems to think that everyone only likes G1, suppose that the same may be the case for this new Optimus being Cybertron/Galaxy Force-based in only its vehicle mode and rather un-Cybertron/Galaxy Force-based in its robot mode.

That pic we see of the inner robot already pretty much still tries to adhere to the G1 Optimus look as best as it can with the use of the Cybertron Optimus truck front as its robot mode chest. For all we know, the Super Robot Mode may indeed look nothing like that of Cybertron Optimus and instead more like some G1 Era version of Optimus, be it Powermaster OP or Star Convoy or even just the vanilla G1 Optimus a la the POTP Leader toy.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999854)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 19th, 2018 @ 7:19pm CST

Technically Cybertron Optimus had a pseudo-split that the full mouthplate slid up in front of. Both on the toy and in-show. But same effect overall.

Sabrblade wrote:A dreadful thought just crossed my mind about this new Leader Optimus.

Recall how the new Ultra Magnus is RiD/Car Robots-based in only its vehicle mode, with its robot mode instead being very un-RiD/Car Robots-based. Knowing how this current Hasbro team seems to think that everyone only likes G1, suppose that the same may be the case for this new Optimus being Cybertron/Galaxy Force-based in only its vehicle mode and rather un-Cybertron/Galaxy Force-based in its robot mode.

That pic we see of the inner robot already pretty much still tries to adhere to the G1 Optimus look as best as it can with the use of the Cybertron Optimus truck front as its robot mode chest. For all we know, the Super Robot Mode may indeed look nothing like that of Cybertron Optimus and instead more like some G1 Era version of Optimus, be it Powermaster OP or Star Convoy or even just the vanilla G1 Optimus a la the POTP Leader toy.

I don't think it will be that last one, since A. they only just did that in PotP and B. They have a vanilla (more or less) G1 Optimus in this line already!

Now yes, the inner robot is G1 Optimus but with Cybertron Optimus' cab as a chest. However, that much can just be put down to the limits of him being an Ultra Magnus retool.

A few points:
1. If the vehicle mode was full-on Cybertron Optimus it wold be hard for the super robot not to be:

2. As I pointed out before, the twin guns of the SIEGE Magnus mold are based off Cybertron Optimus' calf guns
3. The SIEGE Magnus mold would seem to be limited to a fixed wheelbase, which would go best with Cybertron Optimus' truck mode (although Star Convoy also had a non-pivoting trailer).

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999856)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 19th, 2018 @ 7:22pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:A dreadful thought just crossed my mind about this new Leader Optimus.

Recall how the new Ultra Magnus is RiD/Car Robots-based in only its vehicle mode, with its robot mode instead being very un-RiD/Car Robots-based. Knowing how this current Hasbro team seems to think that everyone only likes G1, suppose that the same may be the case for this new Optimus being Cybertron/Galaxy Force-based in only its vehicle mode and rather un-Cybertron/Galaxy Force-based in its robot mode.

That pic we see of the inner robot already pretty much still tries to adhere to the G1 Optimus look as best as it can with the use of the Cybertron Optimus truck front as its robot mode chest. For all we know, the Super Robot Mode may indeed look nothing like that of Cybertron Optimus and instead more like some G1 Era version of Optimus, be it Powermaster OP or Star Convoy or even just the vanilla G1 Optimus a la the POTP Leader toy.

I'd go for Powermaster with Apex Armor, as that what Cybertron Prime's trailer resembled in execution: new boots, backpack with wings, only things missing are the gloves and the chest plate.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999857)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 19th, 2018 @ 7:22pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:A dreadful thought just crossed my mind about this new Leader Optimus.

Recall how the new Ultra Magnus is RiD/Car Robots-based in only its vehicle mode, with its robot mode instead being very un-RiD/Car Robots-based. Knowing how this current Hasbro team seems to think that everyone only likes G1, suppose that the same may be the case for this new Optimus being Cybertron/Galaxy Force-based in only its vehicle mode and rather un-Cybertron/Galaxy Force-based in its robot mode.

That pic we see of the inner robot already pretty much still tries to adhere to the G1 Optimus look as best as it can with the use of the Cybertron Optimus truck front as its robot mode chest. For all we know, the Super Robot Mode may indeed look nothing like that of Cybertron Optimus and instead more like some G1 Era version of Optimus, be it Powermaster OP or Star Convoy or even just the vanilla G1 Optimus a la the POTP Leader toy.

It could very well be true, and if so, that would kinda suck. Here's hoping it's a bit more Galaxy force than Star Convoy, though I can't say a Star Convoy wouldn't please me

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999860)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 19th, 2018 @ 7:27pm CST

I feel like Star Convoy is more likely. They've been dropping hints for years now that they want to do a Star Convoy with battle core primes head and the Titans return head that never saw release. And now that micromasters are a main focus it would make more sense to do a Star Convoy.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999869)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 19th, 2018 @ 7:55pm CST

steals_your_goats wrote:I feel like Star Convoy is more likely. They've been dropping hints for years now that they want to do a Star Convoy with battle core primes head and the Titans return head that never saw release. And now that micromasters are a main focus it would make more sense to do a Star Convoy.

Only if it was a straight-up Star Convoy that could do the base mode.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999883)
Posted by william-james88 on December 19th, 2018 @ 8:57pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I feel like Star Convoy is more likely. They've been dropping hints for years now that they want to do a Star Convoy with battle core primes head and the Titans return head that never saw release. And now that micromasters are a main focus it would make more sense to do a Star Convoy.

Only if it was a straight-up Star Convoy that could do the base mode.

Why would we want that, Star Convoy's base mode is probably the worse from G1.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999890)
Posted by Overcracker on December 19th, 2018 @ 9:05pm CST

steals_your_goats wrote:I feel like Star Convoy is more likely. They've been dropping hints for years now that they want to do a Star Convoy with battle core primes head and the Titans return head that never saw release. And now that micromasters are a main focus it would make more sense to do a Star Convoy.

Nah, Magnus turns into a flat nose truck. Star Convoy was a long nose truck. Which means a truck mode that won't look like Star Convoy at all.

Also the chest here, is clearly a Cybertron Prime truck mode style cab, and not the Robot mode chest that was the Cybertron homage to Star Convoy.

Note that Cybertron Prime did not use the truck's cab as his chest.

This is definitely going for Cyb Prime in truck mode, and will likely feature a Cyb Prime chest piece for the armored up mode.

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999892)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2018 @ 9:10pm CST

Overcracker wrote:This is definitely going for Cyb Prime in truck mode, and will likely feature a Cyb Prime chest piece for the armored up mode.

Based on what, though? Ultra Magnus uses the RiD/CR Magnus altmode but its armored up form is G1 Magnus. What's to stop Hasbro from doing the same with Optimus by making him non-G1 in altmode only and some kind of G1 Optimus in armored up robot mode?

Re: Siege Leader Class Optimus Prime Possibly Leaked by IDW + Specialized Siege Display found in Stores (1999895)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 19th, 2018 @ 9:13pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I feel like Star Convoy is more likely. They've been dropping hints for years now that they want to do a Star Convoy with battle core primes head and the Titans return head that never saw release. And now that micromasters are a main focus it would make more sense to do a Star Convoy.

Only if it was a straight-up Star Convoy that could do the base mode.

Why would we want that, Star Convoy's base mode is probably the worse from G1.

It's not horrible as far as being a Micromaster playset goes, from what I see:

And my point was that steals_your_goats saying "And now that micromasters are a main focus it would make more sense to do a Star Convoy." only really works if we get a Star Convoy that turns into a Micromaster-compatible base.

Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:This is definitely going for Cyb Prime in truck mode, and will likely feature a Cyb Prime chest piece for the armored up mode.
Based on what, though? Ultra Magnus uses the RiD/CR Magnus altmode but its armored up form is G1 Magnus. What's to stop Hasbro from doing the same with Optimus by making him non-G1 in altmode only and some kind of G1 Optimus in armored up robot mode?

I made an edit to an earlier post that said something about this. Like, if they went full Cybertron Optimus with the altmode it would be difficult to do a Super Robot mode that wasn't Cybertron Optimus or close to it. They could end up doing Cybertron Optimus' cab and a different trailer/back though.

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