Siege Red Alert revealed, stock photos for NYCC Siege figures, design notes from Warden #NYCC

While I am happy that Aimless is a thing, I'm quite sad he's not only a slight retool of Blowpipe but also the reveal that Blowpipe himself is just a near straight-up redeco of Firedrive. It seems all ranged Battlemasters share the same engineering.

Lame!

Anyone else notice from the display photos that Megatron and possibly Skytread/Flywheels appear to be the finished plastic instead of hand painted? Megs for certain, couldn't get a really good view of Flywheels, but he doesn't seem to have obvious hand painting like the others.

Looks like I'll finally be able to save money on this line. Think I'm only in for a few of the battle masters and deluxes, and of course Omega. As of now I have no interest in any of the announced voyagers and leaders.

So question, because I think this probably was overshadowed in people's thoughts by the actual toy reveals: Did both of the posters get checked for secret writing, or just the Megatron one because we could see some of it in the pictures?

You think we'll get a new Battletrap that goes with the style of Flywheels?

They are not showing us if voyager Shockwave can turn into anything. Pretty sure thats cause he turns into a space gun. There is clearly a handle right where it should be on that alt mode.

Yes! Brunt! i guess Full-Tilt has finally have a partner

I wonder what mold will Fasttrack be?

Woohoo! Red Alert has his red helmet! I'm totally all in now on trading in my Henkei Swipe and Alert for Siege Sideswipe and Red Alert. I'll also probably use my extra Unite Warriors Streaker as Sunstreaker in my Classics display.

I'm not too upset about Soundwave's alt mode. It at least looks alien. I do like that it can form the lamp post from "More than Meets the Eye: Part 1" as well. The only thing that upsets me is that he's got YELLOW optics. Why not red, Hasbro!? They're trying to be as G1 cartoon accurate with other characters' colors, but they drop the ball on Soundwave's eyes!

Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Megatron looks fantastic. Bought on sight! I hope the sword can stow on his back in robot mode.

Starscream looks great too. Finally, a proper "Tetrajet" form for him. More importantly, though, it's a decent VOYAGER sized robot mode seeker mold, at long last! With any luck, even if Skywarp isn't released at regular retail like Thundercracker almost certainly will, he'll see distribution as an exclusive or as part of a box set down the line.

Shockwave looks perfect. It's a shame he'll be expensive, as he's being put into the Leader class with a whole bunch of...spare arms and legs? At least the extra parts are optional and we can have a perfectly normal Voyager sized Shockwave displayed and put the extra stuff in storage. It's nice to finally have a proper Classics Shockwave at last. So long, Cyberbattalion Shockwave from Walgreens!

Reflector was an AWESOME surprise! He looks perfect! I will not rest until I have bought three of him. I like the extra touch that his robot mode can be modified to include or exclude the camera lens on his abdomen. (With that kind of attention to cartoon detail, you'd think they'd get Soundwave's eyes right, but no! *grumble, grumble, grumble*). Also, to anyone who is confused or upset that Reflector is Deluxe sized, he IS actually in scale this way. Going back to the Sunbow style guides and scale charts, Reflector is supposed to be just about as tall as one of the Autobot cars like Wheeljack or Hound.

Brunt is a nice not so surprising surprise, since I felt he'd be a natural pick for a Decepticon Deluxe "Weaponizer," and we know of Cog and likely Sixgun already for the Autobots.

Flywheels looks great. He's a perfect update of his G1 self. It's a shame he doesn't have two smaller robot modes for each individual vehicle mode, like Battletrap from Power of the Primes, but Flywheels and Battletrap will still look great together on display, and you can even mix and match their tops and bottoms, allegedly! That's still pretty good!

Whisper and Storm Cloud look great. I'll be getting ALL of the Micromasters. There's no reason not to.

As for the Decepticon "Weaponmasters," they're okay. I'll be getting all of the Weaponmasters too, if only for the laser fire and explosion effects they come with. The Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Targetmasters are far superior and will remain the definitive "Classics" versions on my Classics display shelves.

Nice surprise that they showed off the Siege decepticons.

Battle Masters: Great.
Micromasters: Great.
Skytread: Good. Triple changer or duocon? I hope triple changer.
Refraktor: Meh...
Brunt: Great.
Megatron: Fantastic!
Soundwave: Great.
Shockwave: Great.
Starscream: Robot mode is great but only from the front. Robot back and alt mode are just awful... (Am I the only one who thinks this?)
Red Alert: Good.
Confirmation of Titan class Omega Supreme: Good. I hope the tank also has a space base and rocket and it's not TOO much of a partsformer.

(There are some things money can't buy, for everything else... Never mind...)

...anyone have any idea why TFWiki claims that we're getting a Soundblaster repaint from the just-revealed Soundwave, that Red Alert is part of Wave 2, and that Countdown comes with Omega Supreme? Was all that confirmed at the panel? I know people were speculating about Omega turning into Countdown's rocket base, but I didn't think that was confirmed anywhere, and I didn't think we got anything official regarding Red Alert outside of that Brunt picture. I guess a case could be made that Red Alert has to be in Wave 2 for him to be in Brunt's advertising, but the rest of that just seems like wild claims unless I've missed something.

Nemesis Primal wrote:...anyone have any idea why TFWiki claims that we're getting a Soundblaster repaint from the just-revealed Soundwave, that Red Alert is part of Wave 2, and that Countdown comes with Omega Supreme? Was all that confirmed at the panel? I know people were speculating about Omega turning into Countdown's rocket base, but I didn't think that was confirmed anywhere, and I didn't think we got anything official regarding Red Alert outside of that Brunt picture. I guess a case could be made that Red Alert has to be in Wave 2 for him to be in Brunt's advertising, but the rest of that just seems like wild claims unless I've missed something.

Everything that we know was said on the panel but also in conversations with the various press people present. For Micro Master Countdown specifically, we have confirmation that it will fit in the tank that forms the head and upper chest of Omega Supreme from the panel stream. See here: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... uzz/42179/
(video mark 19.28)


As for Soundblaster, an image has been making the rounds claiming to be the redeco.


I just think it's bad lighting on Soundwave, given it's the exact same spot:




Red Alert seems speculation, unless it's from a private conversation (as I mentioned above). Hope this helps!

Is it me, or One of Shockwave's mode look like this?

frikkin AWESOME!!!!!!!
evry single fig
has me cravin
that sweet,
PLASTIC CRACK!!!

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Its probably Laserbeak's design on War For Cybertron/Fall Of Cybertron

Albatross250 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Its probably Laserbeak's design on War For Cybertron/Fall Of Cybertron

More likely, both this toy and that design are based on the same thing: Laserbeak's pre-Earth design from G1:

I think I'm going to die in my upcoming vacation.

Transformers Siege is... it's too much.

It's too perfect, we get a G1 Optimus with G1 transformation, we get a pure G1 Megatron, we get a Pure G1 Starscream Cybertron jetmode, earth robot mode. We get a Pure Soundwave, pure Shockwave (Cyber Batallion was great enough), we get Flywheels, we get bloody Reflector...

I cannot take this, I was born in 86 (year of Devastator) so G1 from the start.
This is............ and I even really like the new Cyberverse... and Bumblebee the movie looks so freaking what a Transformers movie is suppose to be.


Fffffffffffffff. and just got back into Masters of the Universe Classics and Masters of the Universe 200X......

I need to win the lottery and have additional years on my life and, not have to work and have 12 days a week...

Offtopic and tiny old-man rant.

New fans (like under 20) don't know!

You don't know the days we had Car Robots with Megatron not looking like anything. G2 with a wacky Megatron tank mode. Car Robots Optimus with his fake chest, Prowl not looking like Prowl whatsoever. Transformers Armada, Megatron looking like generic tank dude, Optimus without his chest and crap articulation. Armada Red Alert being, I don't know what. Ultra Magnus being red and having no personality. Thundercracker being Starscream reformatted (It was a great Starscream for the time). Energon... Energon Shockwave anybody? Fattimus Prime anybody? No Soundwave. Then Transformers Animated, completely different style. Classics 1.0 with the Gundam Optimus, Weird Megatron, no Soundwave, no Shockwave. Okay Seekers.

Since Combiner Wars it's been going up in quality and G1 designs soo much.

Anyway, I'm happy for all of this. House is too small.

noctorro wrote:Offtopic and tiny old-man rant.

New fans (like under 20) don't know!

You don't know the days we had Car Robots with Megatron not looking like anything. G2 with a wacky Megatron tank mode. Car Robots Optimus with his fake chest, Prowl not looking like Prowl whatsoever. Transformers Armada, Megatron looking like generic tank dude, Optimus without his chest and crap articulation. Armada Red Alert being, I don't know what. Ultra Magnus being red and having no personality. Thundercracker being Starscream reformatted (It was a great Starscream for the time). Energon... Energon Shockwave anybody? Fattimus Prime anybody? No Soundwave. Then Transformers Animated, completely different style. Classics 1.0 with the Gundam Optimus, Weird Megatron, no Soundwave, no Shockwave. Okay Seekers.

Since Combiner Wars it's been going up in quality and G1 designs soo much.

Anyway, I'm happy for all of this. House is too small.

As a fan who turned 20 about a week ago, I can confidently say I do know. I remember aaaaaalll of those things. I grew up with them, except G2.

Of course, I'm still incredibly excited for this new line, same as everyone; even as a kid who grew up with the Unicron Trilogy, I somehow managed to also grow up with G1 through a combination of the home releases of Season 1 and the Movie and looking at the toys online. I'm just saying, don't assume we "don't know".

Huh. They seem to be taking more liberties with these than they did with the figures in previous reveals (other than possibly Cog). I like that they're getting creative-ish with some of them.

I'd like to see Shockwave's non-combined vehicle mode before I judge him, but I love that they gave him a Brute Mode. Never thought I'd see them do that again post-Energon

Soundwave is a similar case to Shockwave; my opinion of him will be heavily influenced by how much his lamp mode amuses me. Laserbeak and Ravage are competently-done but a bit generic, though I could say that about a lot of retro-G1 stuff.

Megatron looks like he's based on his evergreen/Cyberverse design, which isn't really surprising as that was a pretty generic G1-style Megatron to begin with.

I look at Refraktor and I see a lot of Botcon 2016 Reflectors winding up on ebay in the next year or so. Shame his non-combined alt-mode is such a throwaway, but I can understand them not wanting it to interfere with the figure's true purpose.

Airstrike team is a nice homage to the Mini-Con weapon combiners. If the other Micromaster teams also do extra stuff, they could actually be pretty neat.

Kinda disappointed that Skytread didn't get separate robot modes like they gave Battletrap. It would have added a bit more "new" to the figure and possibly increased its play value.

Tetrajets are kinda meh for me, we already got "close enough" versions in Cybertron and Titanium (in three different sizes for the former, and one of the actually decent molds from the latter).

Brunt reminds me of a Vehicon (The Beast Machines kind, not the Prime kind), but in a good way. Vehicle mode looks to be pretty much an upsized version of the G1 toy, but since the G1 toy was a pretty unique-looking tank I'm glad they did so rather than pulling a Universe Galvatron on it. Robot mode is a work of art, suitably brutish and very aesthetically distinct from the other Siege figures. That it splits into weapons/armor on top of this is almost too much. Pardon me for gushing, I'm just floored by this thing. My only complaint is that they picked an Autobot to wear him in stock pics, and that's really more a complaint about Red Alert than Brunt. If I only get one Siege figure, it'll be this guy.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

noctorro wrote:Offtopic and tiny old-man rant.

New fans (like under 20) don't know!

You don't know the days we had Car Robots with Megatron not looking like anything. G2 with a wacky Megatron tank mode. Car Robots Optimus with his fake chest, Prowl not looking like Prowl whatsoever. Transformers Armada, Megatron looking like generic tank dude, Optimus without his chest and crap articulation. Armada Red Alert being, I don't know what. Ultra Magnus being red and having no personality. Thundercracker being Starscream reformatted (It was a great Starscream for the time). Energon... Energon Shockwave anybody? Fattimus Prime anybody? No Soundwave. Then Transformers Animated, completely different style. Classics 1.0 with the Gundam Optimus, Weird Megatron, no Soundwave, no Shockwave. Okay Seekers.

Since Combiner Wars it's been going up in quality and G1 designs soo much.

Anyway, I'm happy for all of this. House is too small.

As a fan who turned 20 about a week ago, I can confidently say I do know. I remember aaaaaalll of those things. I grew up with them, except G2.

Of course, I'm still incredibly excited for this new line, same as everyone; even as a kid who grew up with the Unicron Trilogy, I somehow managed to also grow up with G1 through a combination of the home releases of Season 1 and the Movie and looking at the toys online. I'm just saying, don't assume we "don't know".

Ahaa, sorry for that, you are a man of culture

It was more aimed toward people who I think never had Armada Optimus and are fan of G1. Maybe I'm a bit to sharp concerning his windshield needs to be his torso. And Starscream's cockpit needs to be on his chest in robot mode. And most of the OG's need to have a figure in the line (if they're going for a lot of G1 inspired stuff)

Great to hear you're excited!