Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report

Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report

Sunday, December 24th, 2017 1:50pm CST

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The first wave of Transformers Power of the Primes has made its way to store shelves recently to much anticipation. The roll-out has been quite a success compared to the well-known flaws in the distribution and execution of the previous two lines, The Last Knight and Titans Return. However, just because it went over smoothly on the whole does not mean that there weren't some strange slip ups in the toyline. One of the most central is the fact that some copies of the Prime Master size class figure Micronus Prime and Vector Prime have shipped with two copies of the actual robot Prime Master itself. The Masters are separate in the package, one in the traditional packing slot for the Prime Masters, and the other already inside the Prime Master Suit/Pretender shells. Here's a stock photo of how these new figures are supposed to be packaged:
Transformers News: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report

Several Seibertronians from across the country and the world have run into this situation, ruling out that this factory error is a one off, or that it's location based in some way. In fact, one of our board members, Agamemnon, even madw a visual guide so you can tell if the copy you're thinking of picking up has two Prime Masters inside. You can find his photos below.

Transformers News: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report
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Transformers News: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report
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Transformers News: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report
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The way the Pretender shell should appear in package (well, the most common at this point, I guess) is the face won't be showing. There is also a gap between the legs


It's unknown how these errors are occuring, but there have been no reports of Micronus or Vector Primes shipping without any Prime Masters at all.
Several Seibertron board members have expressed interest in documenting this strange anomaly, so if you run into any Power of the Primes figure that includes two Prime Masters please leave a comment in the Energon Pub Forums below. There might be some information on your figure that could help us track down exactly what production lot run these errors are coming from!


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Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928003)
Posted by thedistinctroom on December 24th, 2017 @ 3:56pm CST
Reminds me of when I was a kid in '85. My G1 Dirge, Swoop and another I forget now came with 2 sets of instructions, stickers, and tech spec decoders. I was like "Whuuuuutt????".
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928006)
Posted by DeathReviews on December 24th, 2017 @ 4:09pm CST
Not only that, but some of the Prime Masters have been packed into the wrong 'boxes'. The display cards for Vector Prime were on Micronus' figure, and vice-verse, in at least one TRU, according to my minions...
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928007)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on December 24th, 2017 @ 4:19pm CST
DeathReviews wrote:Not only that, but some of the Prime Masters have been packed into the wrong 'boxes'. The display cards for Vector Prime were on Micronus' figure, and vice-verse, in at least one TRU, according to my minions...

You have minions? I want minions!

Anyway, this is something that'll probably never hit me seeing that only deluxes and legends have appeared in my area, and will most likely be fixed by the time they arrive...
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928032)
Posted by Skritz on December 24th, 2017 @ 8:58pm CST
Having messed around with Starscream I can safely say: this mold IS salvageable. But not as Starscream. Now while I intend to keep this guy in my collection until a better voyager or deluxe seeker mold exist (if it ever exist, who knows where Generations will go after PotP?!) and is available at retail

HOWEVER! Those Rob Liefeldian proportions? Those over the top bracer/arms and big boots? That tiny head? This mold would rock as Skyquake (maybe with some jet mode retooling?) or as a G2 Comic-inspired Jhiaxus. Now THAT, my friends, would really allow this mold to shine in my opinion:
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Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928060)
Posted by Rated X on December 25th, 2017 @ 9:28am CST
Thats awesome ! For once Hasbro finally screws up in our favor. Too bad I didnt buy a Hasbrolord to use those extra engines in his chest. But im holding out for Takara on that one and it seems they love to glue stuff in place that Hasbro doesnt.
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928062)
Posted by Rated X on December 25th, 2017 @ 9:45am CST
Skritz wrote:Having messed around with Starscream I can safely say: this mold IS salvageable. But not as Starscream. Now while I intend to keep this guy in my collection until a better voyager or deluxe seeker mold exist (if it ever exist, who knows where Generations will go after PotP?!) and is available at retail

HOWEVER! Those Rob Liefeldian proportions? Those over the top bracer/arms and big boots? That tiny head? This mold would rock as Skyquake (maybe with some jet mode retooling?) or as a G2 Comic-inspired Jhiaxus. Now THAT, my friends, would really allow this mold to shine in my opinion:
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Ive never really been in that toy accurate camp that wants voyager seekers. I like my troops to stand eye to eye when they go to war so the deluxe classics seeker mold is perfect for me. I find the POTP starscream to be hideous. If you give it a giant head it could easily pass off as "super deformed" and be sold in Japan to those people who buy weird figures. Surprisingly the mold isnt bad as Elita one. The skinny thighs with big legs look like those furry stripper boots. And since the upper arms are painted a different color she wont look like Popeye. It would be cool if 3rd partys find a way to remove the cockpit and wings and add some stuff that makes her look like a space car from the G1 cartoon. You only see the front so they would have a blank canvas to work with.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:ElitaVehicle01.jpg
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928072)
Posted by Skritz on December 25th, 2017 @ 11:33am CST
Rated X wrote:so the deluxe classics seeker mold is perfect for me.


Yes, maybe so, but that mold is functionally unobtainable for me given its age.
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928082)
Posted by Rated X on December 25th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CST
Skritz wrote:
Rated X wrote:so the deluxe classics seeker mold is perfect for me.


Yes, maybe so, but that mold is functionally unobtainable for me given its age.


Ebay is a great way to obtain older transformers. You should be able to get a good price on all the Hasbro deluxe seekers except Skywarp. He will cost a bit more because he was a TRU exclusive.
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928084)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 25th, 2017 @ 12:51pm CST
Rated X wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Rated X wrote:so the deluxe classics seeker mold is perfect for me.


Yes, maybe so, but that mold is functionally unobtainable for me given its age.


Ebay is a great way to obtain older transformers. You should be able to get a good price on all the Hasbro deluxe seekers except Skywarp. He will cost a bit more because he was a TRU exclusive.


Target exclusive with Ultra Magnus. The set was collecting dust until Fans Project came out with their Ultra Magnus armor.
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928085)
Posted by william-james88 on December 25th, 2017 @ 12:53pm CST
Rated X wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Rated X wrote:so the deluxe classics seeker mold is perfect for me.


Yes, maybe so, but that mold is functionally unobtainable for me given its age.


Ebay is a great way to obtain older transformers. You should be able to get a good price on all the Hasbro deluxe seekers except Skywarp. He will cost a bit more because he was a TRU exclusive.

Man, skywarp was so pricey, I got a better deal by buying the takara version.
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928117)
Posted by Skritz on December 25th, 2017 @ 9:19pm CST
Honestly? If not for their small size, I'd otherwise would have bought the DX9 seekers and gotten all six 'main' seekers. Sadly them being more or less legends class doesn't really 'work' for me.

Plus...man...are the three coneheads even available in the 'Classics Seekers' mold? Weren't a few Botcon exclusives?
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928119)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 25th, 2017 @ 9:33pm CST
Skritz wrote:Honestly? If not for their small size, I'd otherwise would have bought the DX9 seekers and gotten all six 'main' seekers. Sadly them being more or less legends class doesn't really 'work' for me.

Plus...man...are the three coneheads even available in the 'Classics Seekers' mold? Weren't a few Botcon exclusives?


They sure are, in several varieties to boot. Here's a list for you to look into:

Classics
Ramjet

BotCon 2007
Dirge (straight redeco of Ramjet)
Thrust (newly tooled wings)

Henkei
Ramjet
Dirge (new wings)
Thrust (new wings, different from BotCon)

Generations
Dirge (using Henkei wings)
Thrust (using Henkei wings)

United
Seekers: Elites

The Classic and Generations ones were general US retail to boot!
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928128)
Posted by william-james88 on December 25th, 2017 @ 10:40pm CST
There has been a lot of talk about how odd it is that more and more Takara toys are the exact same as the Hasbro released. We saw it with Trypticon but even more with the Transformers: The Last Knight toylines where even the box was the same. And now with the Power of the Primes toys looking identical for both companies (an example is given below) and both company logos appearing on the upcoming Studio Series toys, this similarity for multiple lines is getting fans both concerned and confused. Is there any hope that those images from Takara were still just placeholders? And what exactly is going on?

Well, the upcoming Figure King magazine (number 239) sheds some light on that and clarifies that indeed what we are seeing is true and intended to be the very same toys. There will be three pages dedicated to Takara's Transformers and the Snakas blog reports that we will not only see the same Power of the Primes toys we have already seen (and which many of us already own) but it will also discuss the new path Takara is taking with figures being identical to Hasbro. The Snakas blog quotes the magazine to say that the companies are "unifying the world brands on an unprecedented scale".

This does confirm the fears many fans had, where Takara is choosing not to do their own take on Generations toys, unlike what has been the case with the Legends line so far. While the movie toys have already been very similar between brands in the past, having other lines be identical at the same time is indeed unprecedented.

This definitely confirms that both companies are looking at their own markets first and foremost an that issuing the same toys for both markets must be more beneficial than the added money of imports. Or at least, this is what would seem to be the case with such an unprecedented decision.

While it does mean that the same deco from Hasbro's Power of the Primes will also be seen in the Takara releases under the same toyline name (which so far excludes complete combiner teams), it does bring about the idea that maybe Takara is satisfied with the deco for their own market. Jazz for instance is a deluxe combiner which uses clear plastic and thus demands a lot more paint and the only combining deluxe to also need that was Groove which was a Takara design. So instead of seeing this as Takara lowering their standards for deco, it could be that this unified deco instead takes the Hasbro deco to higher stanards than before. What do you think? Let us know!


Takara

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Hasbro

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Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928129)
Posted by MagicDeath on December 25th, 2017 @ 10:50pm CST
Please nobody freak out. :lol:
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928131)
Posted by ToaLeePrime on December 25th, 2017 @ 10:58pm CST
MagicDeath wrote:Please nobody freak out. :lol:

*entire site proceeds to freak out*
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928133)
Posted by william-james88 on December 25th, 2017 @ 11:01pm CST
ToaLeePrime wrote:
MagicDeath wrote:Please nobody freak out. :lol:

*entire site proceeds to freak out*

Haha, but seriously I have seen little to no complaining on this specific site ;)
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928135)
Posted by ScottyP on December 25th, 2017 @ 11:08pm CST
william-james88 wrote:While the movie toys have already been very similar between brands in the past, having other lines be identical at the same time is indeed unprecedented.
'85 and '86 G1 would like a word

While this news sucks and reeks of non-ironic Total Brand Awareness, I don't think surprise is the right emotion >:oP
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928136)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 25th, 2017 @ 11:08pm CST
Does not matter so long as it is "available". Most often than not,scalpers tend to buy everything on the shelf at TRU (well so long as it exists) hence the need (on my part to import). Same thing happened when the original Skrapnel/Reflector was released.......scalpers got to him or in the case of TFA Arcee, HB sh1tty distribution or both.

Availability first then the added bling (which is the bonus). Though the "unification" for both sides of the Pacific might also mean that some cost cutting is indeed coming the way ( here's hoping its not an ominous sign for the future :PRAY: ).
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928137)
Posted by Seibertron on December 25th, 2017 @ 11:15pm CST
I am beyond thrilled about this change. Amen.
Re: Some Power Of the Primes Figures Shipping With Two Prime Masters: Report (1928139)
Posted by lbock on December 25th, 2017 @ 11:18pm CST
I don't think uniting the brands is necessarily a bad thing. It seems like the Hasbro figures have included a lot more paint in the last year and most of the Takara figures haven't been enough of an upgrade to justify the import price. If Takara can either have more input on the figures or focus more on the MP line, then I will be happy.

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