SOPA and PIPA: the bills which could end Seibertron.com, your favorite websites, and the Internet!
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SOPA, the bill that could put an end to Seibertron.com
Seibertron.com is first and foremost a Transformers-themed website dedicated to, staffed, and fuelled by fans of the Transformers franchise. Over the past 12 years we have been active, we have tried to avoid politics and too much involvement with the outside world as our interest is in the war on Cybertron and its universe beyond, not in domestic policy and law, so when we do decide to get involved please understand that it's over what we feel is a matter of great importance.
I have not written anything like this before and have borrowed very heavily from Tom's Hardware's post on the subject as it is by far the best bulletin I have seen to date, relating directly to real world examples of posters actions. This article is here to inform you about a couple of scary bills that could end Seibertron.com and the Internet we all know and love. SOPA is a bill in the House (and PIPA is it's Senate equivalent) that threatens to fundamentally change the way the internet works by placing excessive restrictions on user generated content such as forum posts and video and image uploads.
The intention of this topic is to cover 4 points:
- To explain and examine the bills
- To highlight the extent of the damage they can do to Seibertron.com (as well as the Internet)
- What our members can do to help stop this.
- To give a sense of urgency to the situation. PIPA is up for review on Jan 24th so we don't have much time.

The basics of the law are:
- It would require web services like YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter to monitor and aggressively filter everything all users upload.
- It would deny site owners due process of law, by initiating a DNS blacklisting based solely on a good faith assertion by an individual copyright or intellectual property owner.
- It would give the U.S. government the power to selectively censor the web using techniques similar to those used in China, Malaysia and Iran. The Great Firewall of China is an example of this type of embedded, infrastructural internet censorship.
Spricket24 from YouTube gives a good summary of the problems we face (6+ min)
And a more detailed view is registered by John "TotalBiscuit" Bain, and is the most watched video on the subject on YouTube (20+ min)
Now lets look at an example that applies directly to us here at Seibertron.com. Imagine one of our fellow Seibertronians posts a video clip here on our message board of a step-by-step review of a brand new figure. Playing in the background behind the voice-over is "The Touch" by Stan Bush. The studio representing Stan Bush could issue a complaint, without being required to notify us or request a take-down. Seibertron.com would be liable and prosecuted solely on a good faith assertion of the copyright owner, without notification, with the site operators subject to possible jail time for not preventing the video from being posted. In short order, the / domain in the United States would no longer resolve to our servers and visitors attempting to come to Seibertron.com would be redirected to a “This site under review for piracy/copyright violations” page. Now apply the same principle to the character designs and their likenesses used in your avatars and sigs, the Heavy Metal War altmodes, TransTopia figure photographs, Mosiac comics and more.
To conform to these new restrictions would mean that Seibertron.com would have to switch to a review/approval process for any and all new posts to our forums and articles. Our community team would have to approve every single news comment, every new thread, and every new response before it went live and filter them for potentially infringing material. Even so, we would still possibly be under threat from violations not caught – a user recolouring an image from a Marvel/DW/IDW comic as an example or a snippet of Transformers news from another website in excess of a certain summary threshold. That’s just here on Seibertron. The effect on sites like YouTube, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and the rest of the internet would be devastating, and these popular sites would simply disappear.
The intent of the legislation is to stop piracy, which isn’t affected in the least by this approach. Unfortunately the legislation in the House and Senate has a wide margin of bi-partisan support and looks likely to pass after the holidays. Believe it or not, your Congress representatives do count the number of calls and emails they get on a particular issue, and most of the time only the people in their jurisdiction (read- you) can sway their opinion on something – so your action on this is important.
The Center for Democracy and Technology have released this .pdf as a guide to the key points of contention within this bill. We ask that as many of you as possible read this and then contact your representatives and tell them you oppose the PROTECT IP Act in the Senate and the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the House. This act wont stop itself, the internet needs people to take action if it is to remain the free global resource it is today. If you wish to know more about this issue, it is recommended that you visit the Protect Innovation project where you can go into more depth on the issue and download a 'briefing kit' that contains, in detail, the opposition to this bill. Please also be sure to hit the Share buttons at the top of your page to tell your friends about this on Facebook, Google+ and Twitter... whilst you still can.
Here are some links to websites actively actively engaging poeple to help stop SOPA:
- Stop American Censorship - Submit letters to Congress, petition the State Department, etc.
- Stop Censorship - Fill out this form to have your name potentially read during a fillibuster.
- Save the Internet! - A big ongoing petition.
- And here is a link that can give you more information and provide you with contact info for your elected official.
Act now because time is short, PIPA goes before the Senate on Jan 25th.
Sincerely,
The Seibertron.com Staff.
Examples structure taken from Tom's Hardware's excellent news post regarding SOPA.
Other references taken from YouTube (search:SOPA), Reddit.com and Wikipedia.
The problem is, that whilst the most relevant issue to us is discussed, there are many others that probably need to be addressed in the conversation such as this, Newgrounds explaining in more direct language how DCMA Blacklisting will work, sharing the public copy of the letter to the Senate and House from AOL, eBay, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Mozilla, Twitter, Yahoo! and Zynga outlining their concerns and opposition to this bill and maybe even 25 things you need to know about SOPA?
This article was last modified on Sunday, January 15th, 2012 1:33pm CST
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Posted by Seibertron on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:13pm CST
Looking forward to hearing comments and seeing discussions from within our community here on Seibertron.com.
Posted by dedcat on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:15pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:19pm CST
Seibertron.com will join the blackout in some manner if that happens.
Posted by BeastProwl on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:20pm CST
Sorry to post Anonymous vid, but they have it right! No one owns the Internet! This is wrong. were do I sign up?
Posted by TFfan92 on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:21pm CST

Posted by MINDVVIPE on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:25pm CST
Posted by dedcat on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:26pm CST
you can read about it here:
http://tinyurl.com/255trde
Sorry to bring my study hall into recess, but this is pretty important stuff....
Now back to bitching about botcon molds.
Posted by Va'al on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:29pm CST
Psychout wrote:[...] (and PIPA is its Senate equivalent)
Sorry, that really makes me cringe inside. Fixed.
Nice article though!
I was wondering.. how would this affect resources which are not U.S. based?
Would it mostly lie within the area of copyright depositing, or is it on the actual broadcasting/hosting/whathaveyou side of things?
Posted by dragons on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:43pm CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:46pm CST
Posted by Alex Jones on January 13th, 2012 @ 6:55pm CST
Also I would also if you are eligible to vote in any of the Republican primaries in your state, recommend supporting Ron Paul for the Republican nominee since he clearly against the SOPA act and stand by our constitutional right for free speech.
Posted by Anonymous on January 13th, 2012 @ 7:23pm CST
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Posted by Godzillabot Primal on January 13th, 2012 @ 7:39pm CST


Posted by Insidious on January 13th, 2012 @ 7:39pm CST
Posted by Psychout on January 13th, 2012 @ 7:46pm CST
There is a speck of good news though, even some of the bills own sponsors are having second thoughts, and will be asking to delay its cloture vote (a vote to skip any extended discussion and rush it through).
The battle is still far from over though, please be sure you do all you can to make your representatives aware of your opposition to this bill.
As far as the blackout on the 18th is concerned, Reddit.com are spearheading the drive and many other websites have already signed up to it in various forms including blacking out their websites completely, altering their layout and taking down their YouTube channels and Facebook pages for the day. Even Wikipedia are hoping to join the blackout as long as the vote for it gets through on the commons (we'll find out Monday or Tuesday)
Firstly, to clarify, I'm British and live in that most blessed part of England, Manchester. I wrote this article as I don't have a representative to contact so this is me doing my part - if even just a handful if US members contact their politicians and say "what the hell do you think you are doing?!" who wouldn't have done otherwise, then I'll have done my bit.Va'al wrote:I was wondering.. how would this affect resources which are not U.S. based?
Would it mostly lie within the area of copyright depositing, or is it on the actual broadcasting/hosting/whathaveyou side of things?
As I understand it, this Bill effects the UK and Australia and Europe and everywhere else primarily as the Internet is comprised of .com websites, all of which are owned/operated by the US and therefore come under US jurisdiction regardless of the country the servers are based in. If its a .com, .org, .net then its an 'American' site, regardless of who owns it.
Also, think about the knock-on effect: Seibertron.com gets shut-down an d the American posters can no longer access it. Lets just assume the site stays up, it would be like a ghost town here. At a guess I'd say a good 75% of this sites membership is from the US so that leaves the 25% of us non-Americans with a very large but empty site. No traffic, no HMW opponents, no one to talk to.
Now apply that to Facebook. Wikipedia. YouTube. Twitter.
It isn't just America that will suffer from this.
Posted by Vicalliose on January 13th, 2012 @ 7:52pm CST
Va'al wrote:I was wondering.. how would this affect resources which are not U.S. based?
Would it mostly lie within the area of copyright depositing, or is it on the actual broadcasting/hosting/whathaveyou side of things?
Almost seems like it will take a world police stance. Canadians are afraid anyway.

Ron Paul is really the only candidate who cares about civil rights issues like these. To bad he's behind Romney. Paul is the only reason I'm registered as Republican and not still independent. In fact most of the house is comprised of republicans right now. Most of them old and stereotypically ignorant to the effects of the bill. They're only for it because it the Democrats are voting against it.
On a side note this would also apparently shut down ebay and similar resale sites.
Posted by dinogeist on January 13th, 2012 @ 7:57pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Thanks for putting this article together, Psychout. I really appreciate it. Hopefully our efforts will help make people aware of these scary bills and that we can do our part to make a difference.
Looking forward to hearing comments and seeing discussions from within our community here on Seibertron.com.
Personally from my perspective all these laws & regulations exist to control/degrade the lower & middle class.
WHAT UPSETS ME THE MOST,when these laws & regulations are created. The rich & powerful are exempt from following them.
if your gonna create new laws & new regulations then EVERYONE should follow them not just some.
I think with the downward spiral economy getting worser & worser every year. the big corporations are getting more greedy & trying to steal every penny away from the hard working people they can.
instead of the big corporations trying to help out the working man. their doing the oppossite & making it worse for them during this extremly bad downward spiral economy.
From my persective capitalism is worse than communism.
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on January 13th, 2012 @ 8:09pm CST
Still, better to spread the word amongst the people and let them know the Apocalypse is coming early.
Posted by Vicalliose on January 13th, 2012 @ 8:18pm CST
Tidalwavex wrote:Personally from my perspective all these laws & regulations exist to control/degrade the lower & middle class.
WHAT UPSETS ME THE MOST,when these laws & regulations are created. The rich & powerful are exempt from following them.
if your gonna create new laws & new regulations then EVERYONE should follow them not just some.
I think with the downward spiral economy getting worser & worser every year. the big corporations are getting more greedy & trying to steal every penny away from the hard working people they can.
instead of the big corporations trying to help out the working man. their doing the oppossite & making it worse for them during this extremly bad downward spiral economy.
From my persective capitalism is worse than communism.
From my perspective, all things can easily be corrupted.
Our government has played a big part in destroying capitalism as well as the young college educated fools who's minds are not set in reality and only know how to make money the wrong way. The biggest problem today? Lawyers. As time goes on they have to come up with new ways to put money in their pockets, as more and more people want to become lawyers every year.
Certain corporations have dropped out of backing this these bills. It's mostly backed by Hollywood as a whole. And in my opinion, I've always considered Hollywood one of the greatest evils on the face of the Earth. It's like they exist purely to generate hate and animosity among everyone.
Posted by Joetx on January 13th, 2012 @ 8:57pm CST
Vicalliose wrote:From my perspective, all things can easily be corrupted.
Our government has played a big part in destroying capitalism as well as the young college educated fools who's minds are not set in reality and only know how to make money the wrong way. The biggest problem today? Lawyers. As time goes on they have to come up with new ways to put money in their pockets, as more and more people want to become lawyers every year.
Certain corporations have dropped out of backing this these bills. It's mostly backed by Hollywood as a whole. And in my opinion, I've always considered Hollywood one of the greatest evils on the face of the Earth. It's like they exist purely to generate hate and animosity among everyone.
This is easily the most ignorant post I've read on a TFs fan site, placing the blame on the wrong people. Lawyers? Hollywood? What, did you just get out of a tea party meeting?
Basically, our political system is corrupt b/c we've allowed, through our collective ignorance, the wealthy & "people" such as corporations (especially the financial, petroleum, & health care-related industries) to, in effect, bribe the politicians of both parties into drafting & passing laws that benefit the wealthy & corporations, but are a detriment to the vast majority of us.
And Ron Paul would give them even greater freedom to do whatever the hell they wanted.