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Nestled in with images of the three Prime Masters of the first wave (Liege Maximo, Micronus, Vector Prime), the two additional Pretenders by another name can be seen in packaging shots, inside the Decoy Suit, as three separate items (Prime Master, shell, accessory) and as the weapon for the other size class figures in the line. Expected release date for these is between March and June 2018, but you never know, given the early release of wave 1. Check them out below!
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Comment by Albatross250
Dec 15, 2017
They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)
ALSO THAT BLAST-OFF. I'm sooo waiting for its release


Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)
ALSO THAT BLAST-OFF. I'm sooo waiting for its release



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Comment by Insurgent
Dec 15, 2017
I do not want these for my Masterforce shelf......
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Skyquake's still a go, hoping for that Guy
Elita-1 looks THICC to be honest.
Comment by Albatross250
Dec 15, 2017
Skritz wrote:TaraTech wrote:gothsaurus wrote:I DO hope they eventually get around to at least finishing out a 5-bot femmebot.
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Chromia & Greenlight are on my list, Hasbro! Make it happen!!
Me too, and knowing Hasbro's penchant for repaints and retools, maybe they can make use of CW/UW Afterburner mold for an IDW version of Chromia and Flareup. Not G1 accurate but that would make the team, 2 cars and 2 cycles and a jet which I think would be an interesting mix. Sad we don't have a voyager car mold, but I suppose they needed a 2nd use for Starscream.
When I first saw PotP Starscream and still speculating if he was going to be a Combiner torso (this was before we knew for sure), my first guess was Skyquake. Heck I even expected the big head to look like Machine War Starscream as a 'pretool' to Skyquake.
....Kinda wish I had been right, really.
Skyquake's still a go, hoping for that Guy
Elita-1 looks THICC to be honest.

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Comment by RustedCross
Dec 15, 2017
Considering none of the other versions of the mood had any...if Inferno comes out having stickers, I’m going to be upset.
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For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better
Comment by william-james88
Dec 15, 2017
Albatross250 wrote:They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)
For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better

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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Dec 15, 2017
I'm actually happy Elita looks like she has a retooled chest. I am still really on the fence with her and Inferno, but I do want an Inferno, and the chest remold actually makes her look pretty good. And I gotta hunt down a Chromia to go with the team.
And with that release date for the wave 2 Prime masters, I'm thinking wave 2 will be where the line slows back down to where it is supposed to be. Can't wait to start seeing these guys
And with that release date for the wave 2 Prime masters, I'm thinking wave 2 will be where the line slows back down to where it is supposed to be. Can't wait to start seeing these guys
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Here's something to make the temptation slightly less:


... that is, if you're not into them.
Submarauder's shell needs a longer peg, it looks more like a fork rather than a trident.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Dec 15, 2017
Insurgent wrote:I do not want these for my Masterforce shelf......
Here's something to make the temptation slightly less:


... that is, if you're not into them.
Submarauder's shell needs a longer peg, it looks more like a fork rather than a trident.
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Comment by bodrock
Dec 15, 2017
Lamdmine is definitely a simple repaint and slight mold change with Metalhawk's head-fin. Whether I pick him up is all about the Core's "face" and power-up it provides....
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Comment by Evil Eye
Dec 15, 2017
The Pretender/Prime Masters look so, so stupid...but I love them.
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Comment by leokearon
Dec 15, 2017
I just which the Prime Masters actually resembled the Prime they are supposed to be.
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His function is Mystical Scientist, but he's mostly about mixing liquids... like a bar tender *hint hint*
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Dec 15, 2017
bodrock wrote:Lamdmine is definitely a simple repaint and slight mold change with Metalhawk's head-fin. Whether I pick him up is all about the Core's "face" and power-up it provides....
His function is Mystical Scientist, but he's mostly about mixing liquids... like a bar tender *hint hint*
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Comment by william-james88
Dec 15, 2017
While many are enjoying their deluxe and legends class toys from Power of the Primes, which have been fine for the most part, the voyagers are definitely the most divisive toys from the line. For a reason that still boggles the mind, Hasbro never did reveal that Voyager Starscream could turn into a torso, nor is that torso mode found in any promotional or stock images. This simply added more mystery to a toy that many were lukewarm about. So below is a pictorial review to help you see what the toy is all about.
Jet Mode
The Jet mode is as serviceable as Silverbolt's was. It is still a robot hiding under a jet (even more so than Silberbolt). Unlike Silverbolt though, we are treated to a staggering amount of foil stickers. While they don't look anywhere near as good as paint, I did not find this to be the main flaw with the toy. It does give more of a sense that this is a toy for an audience much younger than me (which is exactly what it is), but none of it was peeling and the application was fine, with lines meeting up.




I remember Hasbro stating that they really tried to have that exact shade of off white plastic fans associated with Starscream back when they released the Combiner War leader figure. However, I always found the end result rather dull. The plastic is a tad bit lighter/brighter here but not by much. The red and blue are much brighter though and make me realize how the colours on the leader figure look faded.

You can open the cockpit to place a Prime Master or Titan Master (it's more made for them in their "cube" mode). I don't find it to be a great look. You can place the smaller figures all across his jet mode though.

A big issue I have with this toy is a design flaw with two robot leg panels which fold down so that the legs (which make up the back of the jet) can recede closer to the jet body. These panels each have a peg for them to stay secure to the knees in robot mode. Howver, them being symetrical means they end up protruding at the same spot and hit one another in jet mode so it looks like the jet is permanently split in the back. To me, this is a much bigger mishap than the use of stickers.


Robot Mode
The conversion from jet to robot is more complex than I thought and by that I mean that it isn't just 3 steps. There is a nice moment where you have to pivot the wings 180 degrees. I always love when Takara gives us transformation with big movements like that, it makes the transformation feel more dynamic.




The end result isn't great though. This mode is where the biggest flaw with figure comes into play, the proportions. Having his forearms be the same colour as the armour gauntlets was a bad idea. He looks like Popeye. The feet are giant too, plus he has a small head. These proportions have given a false sense of scale in the past (he is smaller than I imagined) so I have several comparison images below to give a sense of scale. I don't know about you, but he really seems to not mesh in style with any of the other toys we would line him up with.







Now a reason for the odd proportions is that his arms hide the combiner ports. And to that I say "so what?!" Silverbolt's did as well but you don't see him with giant gauntlets. And those giant gauntlet flaps dont even cover anything since the combiner hole ends up being in his inner wrist so there is no point to his arms looking this big aside from the designers wanting to do something new and different. While I will always give an A for effort, the result and actual grade is far from spectacular. And plus they expect you to add the combiner feet to make even bigger gauntlets. Thanks, but I will pass. The null rays are nothing to write home about either. They just seem there like it was in their contract and they didn't find a way to get out of it in time.






I really dislike those feet stickers. They definitely make this toy look like something from Imaginext. The head is also very generic. We have had tons of Starscream heads but they always find some way to invigorate them, like the Ghost Starscream head we got in Untie Warriors or the one we got in Robot in Disguise. But here it really is simply generic. And so is the combiner head for that matter. Which leads me to...
Torso mode
Firstly, the transformation into torso mode is stellar. It is by far the most involved transformation we have ever gotten from a combiner torso and it has a unique look which doesnt seem to be just a leftover from other modes (like Volcanicus). Plus it has a fun homage to movie Stasrcream's Doritos body and is incredibly solid. I still stand by the fact that the best torso is Silverbolt's (well, technically for me it's Galvatronus, but you catch my drift) but his chest can become undone. With Starscream, it's rock solid. Plus you can tab in the null rays for storage in an elegant manner. There is the idea that you can also plug in his enigma of combination and well, you will see the results below. The face is quite dull though, as generic as his robot mode face, and the crown seems to have the same contract the null rays got. But it is cool to have the cockpit form the chest, making him look like a bigger version of himself. I think that is very witty and gives a lot of sense to the smaller fake cockpit we see in his robot mode.












There are of course flaws with the combiner mode, but not necessarily the torso. The combiner feet are far too narrow and while I appreciate the ankle tilt, him being so wide at the torso makes me avoid spreading his legs since it looks off and the lack of ratchets at the robot mode elbow makes him harder to pose properly. Adding the extra hands to the back of the feet is something I do not recommend. Firstly, with so much kibble in the front of his torso and most legs having more bulk in the front, he has more of a tendency to fall forwards, so there is no point to enforcing heels. Plus, you have to be really parallel to the feet or else you will just make any stance more unstable. So basically, adding them only raises the possibility of him being unstable while never adding to the stability.
All in all, I don't think I will keep this toy, but there is a lot of potential with the torso mode which is why I am still going to pick up Elita-1.
Jet Mode
The Jet mode is as serviceable as Silverbolt's was. It is still a robot hiding under a jet (even more so than Silberbolt). Unlike Silverbolt though, we are treated to a staggering amount of foil stickers. While they don't look anywhere near as good as paint, I did not find this to be the main flaw with the toy. It does give more of a sense that this is a toy for an audience much younger than me (which is exactly what it is), but none of it was peeling and the application was fine, with lines meeting up.
I remember Hasbro stating that they really tried to have that exact shade of off white plastic fans associated with Starscream back when they released the Combiner War leader figure. However, I always found the end result rather dull. The plastic is a tad bit lighter/brighter here but not by much. The red and blue are much brighter though and make me realize how the colours on the leader figure look faded.
You can open the cockpit to place a Prime Master or Titan Master (it's more made for them in their "cube" mode). I don't find it to be a great look. You can place the smaller figures all across his jet mode though.
A big issue I have with this toy is a design flaw with two robot leg panels which fold down so that the legs (which make up the back of the jet) can recede closer to the jet body. These panels each have a peg for them to stay secure to the knees in robot mode. Howver, them being symetrical means they end up protruding at the same spot and hit one another in jet mode so it looks like the jet is permanently split in the back. To me, this is a much bigger mishap than the use of stickers.
Robot Mode
The conversion from jet to robot is more complex than I thought and by that I mean that it isn't just 3 steps. There is a nice moment where you have to pivot the wings 180 degrees. I always love when Takara gives us transformation with big movements like that, it makes the transformation feel more dynamic.
The end result isn't great though. This mode is where the biggest flaw with figure comes into play, the proportions. Having his forearms be the same colour as the armour gauntlets was a bad idea. He looks like Popeye. The feet are giant too, plus he has a small head. These proportions have given a false sense of scale in the past (he is smaller than I imagined) so I have several comparison images below to give a sense of scale. I don't know about you, but he really seems to not mesh in style with any of the other toys we would line him up with.
Now a reason for the odd proportions is that his arms hide the combiner ports. And to that I say "so what?!" Silverbolt's did as well but you don't see him with giant gauntlets. And those giant gauntlet flaps dont even cover anything since the combiner hole ends up being in his inner wrist so there is no point to his arms looking this big aside from the designers wanting to do something new and different. While I will always give an A for effort, the result and actual grade is far from spectacular. And plus they expect you to add the combiner feet to make even bigger gauntlets. Thanks, but I will pass. The null rays are nothing to write home about either. They just seem there like it was in their contract and they didn't find a way to get out of it in time.
I really dislike those feet stickers. They definitely make this toy look like something from Imaginext. The head is also very generic. We have had tons of Starscream heads but they always find some way to invigorate them, like the Ghost Starscream head we got in Untie Warriors or the one we got in Robot in Disguise. But here it really is simply generic. And so is the combiner head for that matter. Which leads me to...
Torso mode
Firstly, the transformation into torso mode is stellar. It is by far the most involved transformation we have ever gotten from a combiner torso and it has a unique look which doesnt seem to be just a leftover from other modes (like Volcanicus). Plus it has a fun homage to movie Stasrcream's Doritos body and is incredibly solid. I still stand by the fact that the best torso is Silverbolt's (well, technically for me it's Galvatronus, but you catch my drift) but his chest can become undone. With Starscream, it's rock solid. Plus you can tab in the null rays for storage in an elegant manner. There is the idea that you can also plug in his enigma of combination and well, you will see the results below. The face is quite dull though, as generic as his robot mode face, and the crown seems to have the same contract the null rays got. But it is cool to have the cockpit form the chest, making him look like a bigger version of himself. I think that is very witty and gives a lot of sense to the smaller fake cockpit we see in his robot mode.
There are of course flaws with the combiner mode, but not necessarily the torso. The combiner feet are far too narrow and while I appreciate the ankle tilt, him being so wide at the torso makes me avoid spreading his legs since it looks off and the lack of ratchets at the robot mode elbow makes him harder to pose properly. Adding the extra hands to the back of the feet is something I do not recommend. Firstly, with so much kibble in the front of his torso and most legs having more bulk in the front, he has more of a tendency to fall forwards, so there is no point to enforcing heels. Plus, you have to be really parallel to the feet or else you will just make any stance more unstable. So basically, adding them only raises the possibility of him being unstable while never adding to the stability.
All in all, I don't think I will keep this toy, but there is a lot of potential with the torso mode which is why I am still going to pick up Elita-1.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 15, 2017
Landmine is Alpha Trion.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bodrock wrote:Lamdmine is definitely a simple repaint and slight mold change with Metalhawk's head-fin. Whether I pick him up is all about the Core's "face" and power-up it provides....
His function is Mystical Scientist, but he's mostly about mixing liquids... like a bar tender *hint hint*
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That torso is a kibble monstrosity!!!
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Dec 15, 2017


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Comment by steals_your_goats
Dec 15, 2017
Will could you have made the combined mode look any dorkier? Seriously would one interesting pose have killed you?
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Do your own pictorial reviews, dude. Jesus.
Comment by RodimusConvoy13
Dec 15, 2017
steals_your_goats wrote:Will could you have made the combined mode look any dorkier? Seriously would one interesting pose have killed you?
Do your own pictorial reviews, dude. Jesus.
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Whoops.
Early morning can do that to you. Alpha Trion is the brains of the bunch, so any one linking to him becomes an everlasting know-it-all, like yoghurt.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Dec 15, 2017
Sabrblade wrote:Landmine is Alpha Trion.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bodrock wrote:Lamdmine is definitely a simple repaint and slight mold change with Metalhawk's head-fin. Whether I pick him up is all about the Core's "face" and power-up it provides....
His function is Mystical Scientist, but he's mostly about mixing liquids... like a bar tender *hint hint*
Whoops.

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I didn't say it was a bad review I said that there wasn't a single interesting picture of the figure. I feel like if someone is going to post a review of something they should showcase the figure. Especially if they feel said review is front page worthy. If I want to look at static poses of a figure I'll look up the stock photos.
Comment by steals_your_goats
Dec 15, 2017
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Will could you have made the combined mode look any dorkier? Seriously would one interesting pose have killed you?
Do your own pictorial reviews, dude. Jesus.
I didn't say it was a bad review I said that there wasn't a single interesting picture of the figure. I feel like if someone is going to post a review of something they should showcase the figure. Especially if they feel said review is front page worthy. If I want to look at static poses of a figure I'll look up the stock photos.
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There was definitely a nicer and more constructive way you could have said that.
Comment by RodimusConvoy13
Dec 15, 2017
steals_your_goats wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Will could you have made the combined mode look any dorkier? Seriously would one interesting pose have killed you?
Do your own pictorial reviews, dude. Jesus.
I didn't say it was a bad review I said that there wasn't a single interesting picture of the figure. I feel like if someone is going to post a review of something they should showcase the figure. Especially if they feel said review is front page worthy. If I want to look at static poses of a figure I'll look up the stock photos.
There was definitely a nicer and more constructive way you could have said that.
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Given the number of people who mixed and matched Computrons, not sure I can ssyvhe was "best." unless you are willing to lump both Computorns together. although Ibdo love the Takara figures a lot, but i defunately switched out Afterburner and used the Hasbro gun and hands and feet I dont get the love for Galvatronus. Breakdown is too small, and I dont love Roller half as much as I want to. For me, best combiner is Ruination/Baldigus. But some of that is nostalgia , RID was my first jumping on point.
Anyway, on topic. I have said this before, but Repugnus is a perfect example of how you can build an exsuit around a TitanMatlster and still have a modicum of posability. Sure the hip joint is a solid bar, but the legs MOVE. Why sare we stuck with these poseless bricks? I cant even repurpose their weapons, the pegs are too inser for most fists to hold.
I want a Titanmaster to shove in Overlord's chest. I think one of thrm will be Grimlock's matrix, but I need one more.
I will definately be getting Elita and Inferno. Elita because I dont expect msny figures to come out for her. Inferno, i have too many bots assigned to "Protectobots" status -using Hasbro Strafe and nNosecone as skyfeather and hHeatrock, and Rook and Mirage go well with the pair to complete "Rescue Force"- I could use another torso
Comment by Flashwave
Dec 15, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Albatross250 wrote:They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)
For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better
Given the number of people who mixed and matched Computrons, not sure I can ssyvhe was "best." unless you are willing to lump both Computorns together. although Ibdo love the Takara figures a lot, but i defunately switched out Afterburner and used the Hasbro gun and hands and feet I dont get the love for Galvatronus. Breakdown is too small, and I dont love Roller half as much as I want to. For me, best combiner is Ruination/Baldigus. But some of that is nostalgia , RID was my first jumping on point.
Anyway, on topic. I have said this before, but Repugnus is a perfect example of how you can build an exsuit around a TitanMatlster and still have a modicum of posability. Sure the hip joint is a solid bar, but the legs MOVE. Why sare we stuck with these poseless bricks? I cant even repurpose their weapons, the pegs are too inser for most fists to hold.
I want a Titanmaster to shove in Overlord's chest. I think one of thrm will be Grimlock's matrix, but I need one more.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm actually happy Elita looks like she has a retooled chest. I am still really on the fence with her and Inferno, but I do want an Inferno, and the chest remold actually makes her look pretty good. And I gotta hunt down a Chromia to go with the team.
And with that release date for the wave 2 Prime masters, I'm thinking wave 2 will be where the line slows back down to where it is supposed to be. Can't wait to start seeing these guys
I will definately be getting Elita and Inferno. Elita because I dont expect msny figures to come out for her. Inferno, i have too many bots assigned to "Protectobots" status -using Hasbro Strafe and nNosecone as skyfeather and hHeatrock, and Rook and Mirage go well with the pair to complete "Rescue Force"- I could use another torso