Takara Tomy DSM Site Updates and Images: DA-32 Ultimate Optimus Prime & DA-27 HA Reverb

Cyberion wrote:Is this Ultimate OP any more poseable than the Hasbro? Do the big fore arms fall off? Any more posable? Price?

Its the same big POS as the US release unless it has some minor paint schemes changed. And since its in Japan it will cost you almost double what the US version would cost.

Reverb is an absolute good!

no new news about wheeljack??

Cybershark wrote:

Cyberion wrote:Is this Ultimate OP any more poseable than the Hasbro? Do the big fore arms fall off? Any more posable? Price?

Its the same big POS as the US release unless it has some minor paint schemes changed. And since its in Japan it will cost you almost double what the US version would cost.

Well, it's a Takara, so there just HAS to be some sort of improvement on the original, like the forearms not falling off and maybe a slight bit more poseability, perhaps in the arms?

As for Reverb, is he some sort of hover cycle or what?

I only have ONE Question....do you own one or two molds from the human alliance basics? Because they certainly are NOT Trash! Give them a chance! Im giving Ultimate OP A chance I thought Id'e never give him, but these cost WAY less, so it's not that much of a loss if you don't like it! My recomendation? Whirl!

No i do not own any of them... to me (yes this is my personal take on the Transformers), that the whole concept and point of the Transformers on Earth is to blend into and hide among us (which i think is super freakn cool). I have all these sexy HA toys (Jazz, Bumblebee, Sideswipe, etc...) with these sick alt modes. The thought for me is this... maybe my Chryser Crossfire is really a Decepticon.. joking joking.. but follow where i am going with this? again my opinion... but the Fallen, and any other cybertronian alt mode is beyond boring... boarderline lazy if you ask me. so no i will not give the HA basic line a second look... unless i want to light something on fire and watch it slowly drip hot flaming plastic on itself.. cuz thats always fun.

to further illistrate my point consider this. The first Transformers Bayverse movie held a decepticons like Barricade, Bonecrusher, Brawl, and Blackout... sure none of them had many lines in the movie, but because of there alt modes you develop a sense of personality from them (ie cops are jerks). So i felt personality from those characters. Great way to cheat and develop characters without having to have much screen time (expense). Now in ROTF and DOTM we had all these Cybertronian mode guys running around... i did not give a crap about... fodder... and i did not like that. I liked when Ironhide died (albeit sad) it felt like it mattered... you felt the loss of Starscream and Soundwave... now i do think they killed off too many cuz we still need cons for the 4th movie. but my point is cybertronian and having no Earth mode doesnt make for an interesting Transformer (again my opinion).

BeastProwl wrote:My recomendation? Whirl!

Word. Best of the bunch.

Aside from Whirl though I was highly disappointed with Breakdown and the moon buggy repaint of Sandstorm. I like Tailpipe, but his namesake should totally be removeable for use as a handheld gun and TargetMaster is crap. The human figures are crap as well and I really wish Hasbro and gone the extra mile and made these Human Alliance figures a higher price point and scaled them to 1/18 scale to interact with their G.I. Joe line… Whirl would make an awesome F.A.N.G. replacement and Sandstorm could have been a sweet V.A.M.P. sigh…

I am going to get Reverb because, like Tailpipe, I like his robot mode though his alt-mode is weirdly off-balance for a hoverbike and I hope his shield mode (as opposed to "weapon" mode) is a as good as Whirl's unofficial weapon mode of a sling cannon. The human interaction "weapon modes are ridiculous in every figure with possible exception of Tailpipe who becomes another (oddly off-balance) hoverbike.

And that is also the only thing that is great about Reverb. It's a very weird vehicle-mode. I really don't understand what it is.

Thats because its not really a Transformer.... that "vehicle" mode is just a curled up robot sleeping on his back. I pity the fool who buys into this HA basics line... all your doing is promoting laziness on the part of Hasbro.

You could say the same of just about every Autobot mode. Turn them over and "Look it's a robot!"

No... in Robot mode the Transformers in which you refer to have recognizable Earth mode parts all over them... they have to put alot more creativity into a Transformer that actually looks like something we recognize here on Earth. Your comeback is weak....