Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime
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Posted by Va'al on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:10pm CDT
Takara always seems to deliver unique repaints that homage niche characters from their market, and black Optimus Primes. Gregevor is one of those homages going back to the early 2000's RID character Rollbar. Nemesis Prime I guess could be said is a tribute to Scourge/Black Convoy from the same line; even though there have been many takes on the black Prime over the years. Both are worth a look if you're interested in well done repaints.
Posted by dragons on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:23pm CDT
Video again
Posted by Va'al on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:41pm CDT
dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing
You are more than welcome.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 16th, 2015 @ 3:39pm CDT
dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing I didn't bother watching I saw video of original figures before they where repainted don't need same
Video again
But you might have missed out on dancing girls at the end
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:50pm CDT
Va'al wrote:dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing
You are more than welcome.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing I didn't bother watching I saw video of original figures before they where repainted don't need same
Video again
But you might have missed out on dancing girls at the end
I especially liked when they took their tops off. Oh my!
(o)(o)
Posted by no-one on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:15pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Va'al wrote:dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing
You are more than welcome.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing I didn't bother watching I saw video of original figures before they where repainted don't need same
Video again
But you might have missed out on dancing girls at the end
I especially liked when they took their tops off. Oh my!
(o)(o)
Looks like you missed out guy. YouTube took it down and now only the edited version is available.
So scandalous
Posted by Cobotron on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:(o)(o)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:55pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:william-james88 wrote:(o)(o)
Haha, glad you liked it, here are a few more:
National geographic:
(@ㅅ@)
Melissa McCarthy:
(。 ㅅ 。)
Jenny McCarthy:
(•_ㅅ_•)
The Rock:
[_._][_._]
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:06pm CDT
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CDT
No you don't. "Gregevor" is a bad Engrish transliteration of グリジバー, which Romanizes out to being "Gurijibaa", with the two I's both sounding like "ee". It is a portmanteau of "Green" and "Jeep" with a modified end, hence the longstanding transliteration of "Greejeeber" being the more accepted name since the Car Robots character of the same name was established back in the year 2000.
The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound. The V came from B and V being essentially the same sound in Japanese. So whoever transliterated グリジバー ("Gurijibaa") into "Gregevor" apparently didn't recognize the "Green Jeep" reference and gave us a more wonky name than the more likely intended "Greejeeber".
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:38pm CDT
Basically, the etymology, as it were, was " Green Jeep/Green-Jeeper/Greenjeeber" (ignoring the katakana and other romaji orthographic depictions, such as "gurujiiba", etc).
However, IF the original word WAS "Gregevor" (in English), then the Japanese (romaji) could be "gureijiiba".
What has (almost) happened then, is that, over time, they took an English term, converted it into Japanese katakana/,romaji, turned THAT back into katakana again, before finally turning it "back" into romaji/katakana.
It's a bit like how Takara have done the same with "convoy" (convoy/conboy), by first getting the name "right", then probably turning it back into katakana and back to romaji (or having no original romaji/English source to reference).
Hypothetically, this could happen to "Minerva":
Minerva/Mineruba/Minerba/Menorbar".
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on May 17th, 2015 @ 12:22am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on May 17th, 2015 @ 12:24am CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:At this rate can we just call him Greg?
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 17th, 2015 @ 1:05am CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:At this rate can we just call him Greg?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 17th, 2015 @ 9:03pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.
I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2015 @ 9:04pm CDT
Argh! Why do I keep doing that!?!Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.
I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."
Posted by william-james88 on May 17th, 2015 @ 9:56pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Argh! Why do I keep doing that!?!Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.
I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."
Don't worry, we all have those moments. I actually wrote yesterday that Predaking was made of 6 members when I knew it was obviously just 5.
I also wrote in an exam when I was 16 (as part of a greater algebraic equation) that 2 times 3 was 5
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 17th, 2015 @ 9:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Argh! Why do I keep doing that!?!Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.
I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."
Don't worry, we all have those moments. I actually wrote yesterday that Predaking was made of 6 members when I knew it was obviously just 5.
Lol I look stupid all the STINKIN TIME!
Posted by Cobotron on May 17th, 2015 @ 10:24pm CDT
I'm realky bag att spellking.Silly wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Argh! Why do I keep doing that!?!Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.
I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."
Don't worry, we all have those moments. I actually wrote yesterday that Predaking was made of 6 members when I knew it was obviously just 5.
Lol I look stupid all the STINKIN TIME!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 17th, 2015 @ 10:34pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 17th, 2015 @ 11:28pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"And yes, you have to say it like that. GREH-GHEE-VOR."
No you don't. "Gregevor" is a bad Engrish transliteration of グリジバー, which Romanizes out to being "Gurijibaa", with the two I's both sounding like "ee". It is a portmanteau of "Green" and "Jeep" with a modified end, hence the longstanding transliteration of "Greejeeber" being the more accepted name since the Car Robots character of the same name was established back in the year 2000.
The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound. The V came from B and V being essentially the same sound in Japanese. So whoever transliterated グリジバー ("Gurijibaa") into "Gregevor" apparently didn't recognize the "Green Jeep" reference and gave us a more wonky name than the more likely intended "Greejeeber".
That, and I was having fun knowing it would drive the translation obsessed crazy. Mission accomplished.
Cobotron wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:At this rate can we just call him Greg?
I just call it Steve, I tend to use that name a lot.
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Posted by monstrinhotron on May 18th, 2015 @ 7:58am CDT
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 8:59am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:02am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:This is basically the new "Minelba/Minerva".
Except for the fact "Minerva" has a base in the Latin language. "Gregevor", on the other hand, does not.
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:22am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:24am CDT
Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
"Greejeeber"
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:27am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
"Greejeeber"
"Green Jeep" is indeed the genesis of "Gree-Jee-ber", but Japan really likes to turn English into nonsense words as shown above.
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:27am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
"Greejeeber"
Yeah, exactly as I said then: greenjeep spelled phonetically when said in a japanese accent
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:31am CDT
"Japanese accent" doesn't do that to English words. Like JelZe said, it's the two words respelled nonsensically.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
"Greejeeber"
Yeah, exactly as I said then: greenjeep spelled phonetically when said in a japanese accent
"Green Jeep" with a Japanese accent would be like "Guriin Jiipu"
Posted by Cobotron on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:32am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:34am CDT
Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?
Yeah, sabr corrected me above.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:38am CDT
Not all.Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?
The letter ん or ン is like the letter N without a vowel and is used to conclude a syllable, like the N in "Convoy" (コンボイ Konboi).
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:42am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not all.Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?
The letter ん or ン is like the letter N without a vowel and is used to conclude a syllable, like the N in "Convoy" (コンボイ Konboi).
Sounds like something Flavor Flave would say: Con Boiiiiiii!
Posted by Cobotron on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:45am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not all.Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?
The letter ん or ン is like the letter N without a vowel and is used to conclude a syllable, like the N in "Convoy" (コンボイ Konboi).
Sounds like something Flavor Flave would say: Con Boiiiiiii!
Or the N in Poke Mon?
Posted by shajaki on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:47am CDT
monstrinhotron wrote:Gregevor = Greg + Trevor perhaps. No idea where that might come from though
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:53am CDT
Precisely.Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?
ポケモン (Pokemon)
Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)
'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.
Posted by Cobotron on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:54am CDT
Thanks Professor!Sabrblade wrote:Precisely.Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?
ポケモン (Pokemon)
Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)
'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:06am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
"Greejeeber"
Yeah, exactly as I said then: greenjeep spelled phonetically when said in a japanese accent
Not quite. The term comes from, as I've stated previously, the affixation of the suffix "er" to verb forms to create a noun. Usually, we do this with action verbs to denote an "agent" (one who does something) in a construction. Examples include "runner", "thinker", "gunner", etc.
In toy names, similar, or different aspects of morphology have been used to create names such as " Tankor", "Thrustor", "Ro-Tor", "Ground Shaker " and "Green-Jeeper". This was then affected by the the phonological aspect of (assimilation?), where the bilabial plosives, /p/ and /b/ can be interchanged in some utterances. Japanese learners, by virtue of the limited phonemic range of their L1, cannot always comprehend these sounds, resulting in "jeeBA".
Relatedly, "green Jeep" would be pronounced "guriinu jiipu" ("goo-ree-noo Jee-poo") , and not "jiipa".
Hope this helps.
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:13am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This is basically the new "Minelba/Minerva".
Except for the fact "Minerva" has a base in the Latin language. "Gregevor", on the other hand, does not.
No, but this is a romaji transcription of a katakana term, so it is similar in that someone at Takara converted an unknown katakana word (back) into romaji. In both cases, all the staff had to do was check online or a dictionary for help.
Takara is to English, what Hasbro is to stock photography/posing toys.
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:19am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Precisely.Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?
ポケモン (Pokemon)
Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)
'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.
To add to the confusion, the sound is interchangeable with /m/ (as an end sound). For example, there is a station in Chiba with two romaji signs, showing "Kahin Makuhari" and "KahiM Makuhari" next to each other.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:33am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Precisely.Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?
ポケモン (Pokemon)
Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)
'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.
To add to the confusion, the sound is interchangeable with /m/ (as an end sound). For example, there is a station in Chiba with two romaji signs, showing "Kahin Makuhari" and "KahiM Makuhari" next to each other.
I think that has more to do with the fact that "n" can glide into an "m" when directly followed by any "m"-kana, ハンマー (hanma for "hammer" for instance. Also, at least the "h"-kana with either the dakuten or handakuten can make an "n" turn into an "m": コンピュータ (konpyūta) for "Computer" or サンバ (sanba) for "Samba".
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT
The kana for mu, む/ム, was originally used for the n sound as well, while ん was originally a hentaigana used for both n and mu. In the 1900 Japanese script reforms, hentaigana were officially declared obsolete, and ん was officially declared a kana to represent the n sound.
- http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_(kana)
I think it was just the obsolete form of katakana.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:47pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 18th, 2015 @ 11:17pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So that giant Prime appears to be based off those animation stills we saw. Too bad it doesn't come with a weapon all its own. I also find it funny that one of its features is a sliding panel for the QR code.
Yeah they thought ahead!