Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images

Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images

Saturday, January 3rd, 2015 4:55am CST

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Takara Tomy's unofficial social media PR Hisashi Yuki has taken to Twitter again to show off the upcoming Legends figures LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm, along with Targetmasters and Headmaster - and of course, MP-24 Star Saber (more on the upcoming Masterpiece figure over here).

Thrown into the mix is also a concept doodle by Yuki of Ginrai - speculation time, or just some social media fodder from the vaults? Let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635320)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 3rd, 2015 @ 6:58am CST
Those doodle are most probably for the original Ginrai/PM Optimus Prime.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635337)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on January 3rd, 2015 @ 8:54am CST
tailgate actually looks good.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635346)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2015 @ 9:45am CST
fenrir72 wrote:Those doodle are most probably for the original Ginrai/PM Optimus Prime.
Yeah, I'm likewise thinking they might be sketches from the original 1988 toy's production.

But if not, they could instead have been something Yuki-san was drawing for the Fans Choice poll had Super Jinrai won instead of Star Saber.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635362)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 3rd, 2015 @ 10:20am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Those doodle are most probably for the original Ginrai/PM Optimus Prime.
Yeah, I'm likewise thinking they might be sketches from the original 1988 toy's production.

But if not, they could instead have been something Yuki-san was drawing for the Fans Choice poll had Super Jinrai won instead of Star Saber.


More or less. But if this would have been another MP Ginrai, having a windshield for a back would be a slap to modern engineering techniques ( that or do the henkei convoy transform sequence) let alone be a Masterpiece.

Edt:

What's weird though is that for the first time, the original PM Optimus USA release had longer stacks while the die-cast cab Ginrai had shorter ones, why that didn't carry over to Yuki's doodle is kind of surprising. Another thing, if you still own the original Hasbro catalogue for the Powermaster/Pretenders, PM Optimus Prime was waaaaaaay different from the final product. That proto hand more angled feet and a proportional head.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635366)
Posted by leakin' lubricant on January 3rd, 2015 @ 10:26am CST


Nice, should be getting mine next week, cant wait!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635368)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2015 @ 10:29am CST
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Those doodle are most probably for the original Ginrai/PM Optimus Prime.
Yeah, I'm likewise thinking they might be sketches from the original 1988 toy's production.

But if not, they could instead have been something Yuki-san was drawing for the Fans Choice poll had Super Jinrai won instead of Star Saber.


More or less. But if this would have been another MP Ginrai, having a windshield for a back would be a slap to modern engineering techniques ( that or do the henkei convoy transform sequence) let alone be a Masterpiece.
Not when that makes it show-accurate. ;)

Image

Besides, MP-1 and MP-10 both had two truck grills, MP-9 had two flame hoods, etc.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635372)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 3rd, 2015 @ 10:43am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Those doodle are most probably for the original Ginrai/PM Optimus Prime.
Yeah, I'm likewise thinking they might be sketches from the original 1988 toy's production.

But if not, they could instead have been something Yuki-san was drawing for the Fans Choice poll had Super Jinrai won instead of Star Saber.


More or less. But if this would have been another MP Ginrai, having a windshield for a back would be a slap to modern engineering techniques ( that or do the henkei convoy transform sequence) let alone be a Masterpiece.
Not when that makes it show-accurate. ;)

Image

Besides, MP-1 and MP-10 both had two truck grills, MP-9 had two flame hoods, etc.


I have no problem with the grills, that's were the Godmaster/engine attaches. It's the windshield on his back at an angle (gives Ginrai a stooping appearance)......me no like.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635374)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 3rd, 2015 @ 10:45am CST
leakin' lubricant wrote:


Nice, should be getting mine next week, cant wait!


D@mn holidays got my UM and Jetfire stuck at Tokyo :BOOM: expecting them in the next 2 weeks.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635375)
Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2015 @ 10:53am CST
fenrir72 wrote:
I have no problem with the grills, that's were the Godmaster/engine attaches. It's the windshield on his back at an angle (gives Ginrai a stooping appearance)......me no like.


Ok, I know I will sound like a newbie but you guys have been nice and understanding before.

Why is this Ginrai and not Convoy?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635376)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2015 @ 11:00am CST
william-james88 wrote:Why is this Ginrai and not Convoy?
When the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was released in Japan, it was as a new character named Ginrai (with a soft G, like "Jin-rye") since, in the Japanese cartoon continuity, Optimus/Convoy was already dead once again, so they decided to make it into a new character instead of bringing him back to life for a third time.

Plus, the Powermaster concept in Japan was reworked into the Godmaster concept, which would have made it difficult for the toy to represent Convoy anyway, since it put more focus on the human rather than the Transtector.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635377)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 3rd, 2015 @ 11:01am CST
william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
I have no problem with the grills, that's were the Godmaster/engine attaches. It's the windshield on his back at an angle (gives Ginrai a stooping appearance)......me no like.


Ok, I know I will sound like a newbie but you guys have been nice and understanding before.

Why is this Ginrai and not Convoy?


The short story is that in the Japanese timeline, Convoy gets killed off (again) in The Headmasters. The difference is, he wouldn't be properly revived until after Zone in Return of Convoy, as Star Convoy.
Ginrai's body was meant for Convoy, but for unknown reasons, it was turned into a new character named Ginrai. The fact it was a lifeless Transtector (at first) controlled by a human (the Engine) akin to a Japanese Headmaster probably had something to do with it.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635382)
Posted by wetwithwaterwings on January 3rd, 2015 @ 11:19am CST
Takara's Flanker is a drastic departure from the U.S. release. I like how the gun mode mimics Swerve's "my first blaster" from MTMTE. Are those Flanker's original colors or is that a nod to something else?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635383)
Posted by wetwithwaterwings on January 3rd, 2015 @ 11:20am CST
Takara's Flanker is a drastic departure from the U.S. release. I like how the gun mode mimics Swerve's "my first blaster" from MTMTE. Are those Flanker's original colors or is that a nod to something else?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635384)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2015 @ 11:24am CST
wetwithwaterwings wrote:Takara's Flanker is a drastic departure from the U.S. release. I like how the gun mode mimics Swerve's "my first blaster" from MTMTE. Are those Flanker's original colors or is that a nod to something else?
Flanker's been redecoed into being the Micromaster Phaser partner of Blast Master (who is the real identity of Cosmos's Payload figure).
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635397)
Posted by Agamemnon on January 3rd, 2015 @ 12:23pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:When the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was released in Japan, it was as a new character named Ginrai (with a hard G, like "Jin-rye")...


[Grammar Nazi] You meant "soft g" as in "jin" and not "hard g" like in "gun," right? [/grammar Nazi] ;)


Sorry, it never happens that I get to correct Sabrblade. His knowledge is truly astounding!!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635398)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 3rd, 2015 @ 12:24pm CST
And to illustrate here are the G1 Micros:

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Left: Blast Master (aka "Payload")
Right: Phaser


They each form one half of a Space Shuttle: Phaser is the front, Blast Master is the back.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635399)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2015 @ 12:30pm CST
Agamemnon wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:When the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was released in Japan, it was as a new character named Ginrai (with a hard G, like "Jin-rye")...


[Grammar Nazi] You meant "soft g" as in "jin" and not "hard g" like in "gun," right? [/grammar Nazi] ;)


Sorry, it never happens that I get to correct Sabrblade. His knowledge is truly astounding!!
Really? I thought it was the other way, since I figured the "guh" sound was softer to pronounce that the "juh" sound.

Fancy that. :lol:

Thanks. I'll edit it right away.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635424)
Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2015 @ 1:44pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
wetwithwaterwings wrote:Takara's Flanker is a drastic departure from the U.S. release. I like how the gun mode mimics Swerve's "my first blaster" from MTMTE. Are those Flanker's original colors or is that a nod to something else?
Flanker's been redecoed into being the Micromaster Phaser partner of Blast Master (who is the real identity of Cosmos's Payload figure).


Takara keeps impressing me. Even though Hasbro is the sole designer of the toys these days, they still make it their own whenever they have the chance, thats awesome!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635425)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 3rd, 2015 @ 1:45pm CST
Actually, Agamemnon, the pronunciation of the "G" in Ginrai is a matter of phonics, not grammar. Yes, I'm being that guy. ;)
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Tailgate and Swerve and LG09 Brainstorm Images (1635427)
Posted by Agamemnon on January 3rd, 2015 @ 1:55pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Actually, Agamemnon, the pronunciation of the "G" in Ginrai is a matter of phonics, not grammar. Yes, I'm being that guy. ;)

Nice call. But I've never heard of a Phonics Nazi... Are you the first? ;)

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