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Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed

Friday, July 29th, 2016 5:33AM CDT

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What is entirely new from the ACG HK 2016 story, and brought to us by weibo user pancrazi, is the appearance of another Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece in the form of another Conehead: MP-11ND Dirge! He has the same MP conehead retooling as Thrust and Ramjet with unique tooling for the wings, new weapons and a different paint scheme. While it may be odd to see Takara Tomy toys revealed at a Hasbro toy show, Hasbro Asia will be the ones releasing and distributing the toy in Asia and international online retailers (The Hasbro Asia release is the one that comes with the coin). Check out the images mirrored below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Discussion Thread
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810248)
Posted by Randomhero on July 29th, 2016 @ 6:18am CDT
I'm not as surprised to see Dirge as I am with the fact that OTHER CONVENTIONS LET PEOPLE PICK UP THE STUFF?!?!

I wanna pick up the toys and check them out! I wanna play with them without someone walking up to me and saying "sir please put that back you're a grown man"
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810249)
Posted by Va'al on July 29th, 2016 @ 6:19am CDT
Randomhero wrote:I'm not as surprised to see Dirge as I am with the fact that OTHER CONVENTIONS LET PEOPLE PICK UP THE STUFF?!?!

I wanna pick up the toys and check them out! I wanna play with them without someone walking up to me and saying "sir please put that back you're a grown man"


I think that may be one of the staff members (very casual attire, I'll give you that) setting up the Dirgesplay.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810259)
Posted by Randomhero on July 29th, 2016 @ 6:55am CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I'm not as surprised to see Dirge as I am with the fact that OTHER CONVENTIONS LET PEOPLE PICK UP THE STUFF?!?!

I wanna pick up the toys and check them out! I wanna play with them without someone walking up to me and saying "sir please put that back you're a grown man"


I think that may be one of the staff members (very casual attire, I'll give you that) setting up the Dirgesplay.



That's what they want us to think...

"Sir put that back"

"He's playing with it!"

"He's a staff member"

"Where's his badge?!"

"Where's yours?"

"Alright I'm going..."
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810260)
Posted by Va'al on July 29th, 2016 @ 6:59am CDT
Randomhero wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I'm not as surprised to see Dirge as I am with the fact that OTHER CONVENTIONS LET PEOPLE PICK UP THE STUFF?!?!

I wanna pick up the toys and check them out! I wanna play with them without someone walking up to me and saying "sir please put that back you're a grown man"


I think that may be one of the staff members (very casual attire, I'll give you that) setting up the Dirgesplay.



That's what they want us to think...

"Sir put that back"

"He's playing with it!"

"He's a staff member"

"Where's his badge?!"

"Where's yours?"

"Alright I'm going..."


Usually the reason I wear red tshirts at cons, to be honest. Pretty sure if Hasbro dusts their Victorion cabinet for prints they can clone me straight away.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810261)
Posted by shajaki on July 29th, 2016 @ 7:01am CDT
:DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810265)
Posted by Randomhero on July 29th, 2016 @ 7:26am CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I'm not as surprised to see Dirge as I am with the fact that OTHER CONVENTIONS LET PEOPLE PICK UP THE STUFF?!?!

I wanna pick up the toys and check them out! I wanna play with them without someone walking up to me and saying "sir please put that back you're a grown man"


I think that may be one of the staff members (very casual attire, I'll give you that) setting up the Dirgesplay.



That's what they want us to think...

"Sir put that back"

"He's playing with it!"

"He's a staff member"

"Where's his badge?!"

"Where's yours?"

"Alright I'm going..."


Usually the reason I wear red tshirts at cons, to be honest. Pretty sure if Hasbro dusts their Victorion cabinet for prints they can clone me straight away.


A lot of great comedy going on this week on the boards and it's getting me through the week
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810273)
Posted by Va'al on July 29th, 2016 @ 8:04am CDT
Randomhero wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I'm not as surprised to see Dirge as I am with the fact that OTHER CONVENTIONS LET PEOPLE PICK UP THE STUFF?!?!

I wanna pick up the toys and check them out! I wanna play with them without someone walking up to me and saying "sir please put that back you're a grown man"


I think that may be one of the staff members (very casual attire, I'll give you that) setting up the Dirgesplay.



That's what they want us to think...

"Sir put that back"

"He's playing with it!"

"He's a staff member"

"Where's his badge?!"

"Where's yours?"

"Alright I'm going..."


Usually the reason I wear red tshirts at cons, to be honest. Pretty sure if Hasbro dusts their Victorion cabinet for prints they can clone me straight away.


A lot of great comedy going on this week on the boards and it's getting me through the week


Catching up post SDCC on news, working two other jobs, in 100F.
Comedy is the way to avoid melting into my chair/floor.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810316)
Posted by MaverickPrime on July 29th, 2016 @ 9:14am CDT
Wow, Dirge dies even in the displays! :lol:
No, seriously, there's a piece of what appears to be his wing hinge lying on the shelf :shock:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I'm not as surprised to see Dirge as I am with the fact that OTHER CONVENTIONS LET PEOPLE PICK UP THE STUFF?!?!

I wanna pick up the toys and check them out! I wanna play with them without someone walking up to me and saying "sir please put that back you're a grown man"


I think that may be one of the staff members (very casual attire, I'll give you that) setting up the Dirgesplay.



That's what they want us to think...

"Sir put that back"

"He's playing with it!"

"He's a staff member"

"Where's his badge?!"

"Where's yours?"

"Alright I'm going..."


Usually the reason I wear red tshirts at cons, to be honest. Pretty sure if Hasbro dusts their Victorion cabinet for prints they can clone me straight away.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Dirgesplay is a Thew-worthy (Theworthy?) word xD
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810368)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on July 29th, 2016 @ 10:25am CDT
They must be in a big hurry to retire the MP11 mold. There were year(s) separating the main trio. Happy as I am to add to the Decepticon ranks, I need a break, man! This year has been waaaay too much. I am drowning.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810521)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 29th, 2016 @ 4:27pm CDT
I like what I see.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810560)
Posted by shajaki on July 29th, 2016 @ 10:08pm CDT
DecepticonFinishline wrote:They must be in a big hurry to retire the MP11 mold.
I hope not. They still got a couple G2 Seekers to make. And with the G2 MP love they've been showing I'm sure they'll get to it eventually.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810567)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 29th, 2016 @ 10:41pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:They must be in a big hurry to retire the MP11 mold.
I hope not. They still got a couple G2 Seekers to make. And with the G2 MP love they've been showing I'm sure they'll get to it eventually.
Not to mention additional Seekers like the other two Rainmakers, the Air Warriors, the Welcoming Committee, etc.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810569)
Posted by shajaki on July 29th, 2016 @ 10:53pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
shajaki wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:They must be in a big hurry to retire the MP11 mold.
I hope not. They still got a couple G2 Seekers to make. And with the G2 MP love they've been showing I'm sure they'll get to it eventually.
Not to mention additional Seekers like the other two Rainmakers, the Air Warriors, the Welcoming Committee, etc.
I would buy those up SO fast, but I'm doubtful we get any official MP love for them.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810570)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 29th, 2016 @ 10:54pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
shajaki wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:They must be in a big hurry to retire the MP11 mold.
I hope not. They still got a couple G2 Seekers to make. And with the G2 MP love they've been showing I'm sure they'll get to it eventually.
Not to mention additional Seekers like the other two Rainmakers, the Air Warriors, the Welcoming Committee, etc.
I would buy those up SO fast, but I'm doubtful we get any official MP love for them.

We got Acid Rain, didn't we :-s
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810572)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 29th, 2016 @ 11:00pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
shajaki wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:They must be in a big hurry to retire the MP11 mold.
I hope not. They still got a couple G2 Seekers to make. And with the G2 MP love they've been showing I'm sure they'll get to it eventually.
Not to mention additional Seekers like the other two Rainmakers, the Air Warriors, the Welcoming Committee, etc.
I would buy those up SO fast, but I'm doubtful we get any official MP love for them.

We got Acid Storm, didn't we :-s
Thanks to Hasbro, yeah, but I wouldn't count on much more than him since all of Acid Storm's toys had been Hasbro-initiated with Takara never releasing their own Acid Storm toys of any kind. Takara's release of MP Acid Storm was a straight import of the (cartoon-inaccurate) Hasbro version with a new ID number sticker slapped on the box.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810573)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 29th, 2016 @ 11:02pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
shajaki wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:They must be in a big hurry to retire the MP11 mold.
I hope not. They still got a couple G2 Seekers to make. And with the G2 MP love they've been showing I'm sure they'll get to it eventually.
Not to mention additional Seekers like the other two Rainmakers, the Air Warriors, the Welcoming Committee, etc.
I would buy those up SO fast, but I'm doubtful we get any official MP love for them.

We got Acid Storm, didn't we :-s
Thanks to Hasbro, yeah, but I wouldn't count on much more than him since all of Acid Storm's toys had been Hasbro-initiated with Takara never releasing their own Acid Storm toys of any kind. Takara's release of MP Acid Storm was a straight import of the (cartoon-inaccurate) Hasbro version with a new ID number sticker slapped on the box.

Oh, it was hasbro only, guess it must have conflicted with TT not wanting to release every repaint out there, wasn't there also an mp sunstorm too? Maybe we should be praying to hasbro for these repaints as opposed to the other repaints we don't want, seriously, there's now winning with this fan-base :lol:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810575)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 29th, 2016 @ 11:07pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
shajaki wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:They must be in a big hurry to retire the MP11 mold.
I hope not. They still got a couple G2 Seekers to make. And with the G2 MP love they've been showing I'm sure they'll get to it eventually.
Not to mention additional Seekers like the other two Rainmakers, the Air Warriors, the Welcoming Committee, etc.
I would buy those up SO fast, but I'm doubtful we get any official MP love for them.

We got Acid Storm, didn't we :-s
Thanks to Hasbro, yeah, but I wouldn't count on much more than him since all of Acid Storm's toys had been Hasbro-initiated with Takara never releasing their own Acid Storm toys of any kind. Takara's release of MP Acid Storm was a straight import of the (cartoon-inaccurate) Hasbro version with a new ID number sticker slapped on the box.

Oh, it was hasbro only, guess it must have conflicted with TT not wanting to release every repaint out there, wasn't there also an mp sunstorm too? Maybe we should be praying to hasbro for these repaints as opposed to the other repaints we don't want, seriously, there's now winning with this fan-base :lol:
Yeah, there was a Sunstorm from both Takara and Hasbro, but Sunstorm originated from e-HOBBY, making him a Japanese-original character, with his Takara MP directly based on his cartoon deco.

Takara made Sunstorm years before his MPs, and Hasbro made Acid Storm years before his own Hasbro MP, but the rest of the background generic Seekers have gotten no such toy love outside of some Fun Pub toys or some other obscure merchandise.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810580)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 29th, 2016 @ 11:13pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Takara made Sunstorm years before his MPs, and Hasbro made Acid Storm years before his own Hasbro MP, but the rest of the background generic Seekers have gotten no such toy love outside of some Fun Pub toys or some other obscure merchandise.

Yeah, I still want 8 obscure cw seeker limbs [-(
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810764)
Posted by skywarp-2 on July 30th, 2016 @ 9:09pm CDT
I'm probably going to get them once I get all my other seekers bought. But it's funny, the coneheads only last 1 season. I think they all died in the 86 movie didn't they??
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810770)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 30th, 2016 @ 10:53pm CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:I'm probably going to get them once I get all my other seekers bought. But it's funny, the coneheads only last 1 season. I think they all died in the 86 movie didn't they??
No, they appeared in Season 3 too, particularly in "Thief in the Night" in which all three appeared together. And again in the Japanese Headmasters cartoon.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1810777)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 31st, 2016 @ 1:11am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:I'm probably going to get them once I get all my other seekers bought. But it's funny, the coneheads only last 1 season. I think they all died in the 86 movie didn't they??
No, they appeared in Season 3 too, particularly in "Thief in the Night" in which all three appeared together. And again in the Japanese Headmasters cartoon.


Lookalikes did get chomped on by Unicron in the movie:

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NOM

Dirge seems like a tough nut to crack, as he seemingly died not once, but twice:

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Dirge goes kablooey, Five Faces of Darkness pt. 5

His luck got worse in the comics :lol:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811253)
Posted by shajaki on August 1st, 2016 @ 8:59pm CDT
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811268)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 1st, 2016 @ 10:29pm CDT
^ Your avatar just says it all, Shaj. ;)
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811269)
Posted by shajaki on August 1st, 2016 @ 10:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:^ Your avatar just says it all, Shaj. ;)
:lol:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811336)
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2016 @ 9:22am CDT
I found a list online of all the releases of the MP seeker mold and tweaked it to be more accurate.

MP-03 Starscream (Green)
MP-03-G Starscream - Ghost
Walmart Starscream - MP-03 Mold
Takara USA Edition Starscream - MP-03 Mold
Takara MP-11 Starscream
Hasbro TRU Starscream MP07 - MP-11 Mold
MP-06 Skywarp - MP-03 Mold
Walmart Skywarp - MP-03 Mold
MP-11SW - Skywarp
MP-07 Thundercracker - MP-03 Mold
Hasbro TRU Thundercracker - MP-11 Mold
MP-11T - Thundercracker
MP-11S - Takara Sunstorm
Hasbro TRU Sunstorm (MP-05)
Hasbro Acidstorm (MP-01)
Takara Acidstorm (MP-11A) (USA Edition)
MP-11NR - Ramjet
MP-11NT - Thrust
MP-11ND - Dirge
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811411)
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2016 @ 1:39pm CDT
We have some more pictures of Masterpiece MP 11ND Dirge which was revealed at Shaghai's Cybertron Con 2016. The toy will be distributed by TTMall in Japan and Hasbro Asia for outside of Japan (hence its inclusion at the show). We see a pretty awesome shot of all the three coneheads together.
For anyone keeping score, this is the 19th use of the Masterpiece Seeker mold, including all the different retools, redecos and releases in Japan and the US since 2006. These pictures were brought to us by TF fan UranusDD.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811455)
Posted by MightyMagnus78 on August 2nd, 2016 @ 3:11pm CDT
Can't wait to get this guy to complete my MP seekers! :KREMZEEK:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811501)
Posted by BumbleDouche on August 2nd, 2016 @ 5:23pm CDT
Those guns are really large...
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811504)
Posted by Spider 001 on August 2nd, 2016 @ 5:25pm CDT
I don't understand these at all.

#1. Why is Dirge's missiles, forearms & head/nosecone GRAY??? They're supposed to be black.

#2. Why are the colors on Thrust's jet mode completely wrong? His wings aren't supposed to be gray & why did they put that black patch on it?

#3. Why haven't I seen anybody else mention these problems?

Thrust was always my favorite since G1 & that IS NOT Thrust! WTF? :???:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811538)
Posted by shajaki on August 2nd, 2016 @ 6:38pm CDT
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1811539)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 2nd, 2016 @ 6:39pm CDT
Spider 001 wrote:I don't understand these at all.

#1. Why is Dirge's missiles, forearms & head/nosecone GRAY??? They're supposed to be black.

#2. Why are the colors on Thrust's jet mode completely wrong? His wings aren't supposed to be gray & why did they put that black patch on it?

#3. Why haven't I seen anybody else mention these problems?

Thrust was always my favorite since G1 & that IS NOT Thrust! WTF? :???:

Actually, Thrust's colors were discussed in his thread here. (More of the coloring discussion above the post linked here.)

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1847982)
Posted by Cyberpath on December 20th, 2016 @ 12:09am CST
From the Takara-Tomy Mall --


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848006)
Posted by Burn on December 20th, 2016 @ 4:35am CST
Pre-orders (mainly for Australians) are open at Premium Collectables
Got mine in.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848019)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 20th, 2016 @ 7:10am CST
Thanks to Seibertronians Scottyp and Cyberpath we have new images of the upcoming Conehead Seeker Masterpiece, Dirge! Dirge is the last of the 3 Coneheads needed for collections, and while he maintains the retooling done for the sake of the Conehead's look, he does features some new tooling and weapons, along with a little clear plastic pilot that can sit in his cockpit. These images come to us courtesy of TakaraTomy Mall, which has his release date set as May of 2017.

Seibertronian Fourm Admin Burn also dropped in to let us know that Premium Collectables has their pre-order up as well, with a price of $115.98.

Take a look at the pictures below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below! And make sure to get your pre-order in for the final of the original 6 cartoon seekers!

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848022)
Posted by BumbleDouche on December 20th, 2016 @ 7:29am CST
Those purple kneecaps look... Unusual.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848023)
Posted by mblase75 on December 20th, 2016 @ 7:29am CST
It looks like the tail/rudder/wingtip uprights can fold flat against the wing in robot mode. I'm not sure why they aren't in the photo.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848026)
Posted by Dagon on December 20th, 2016 @ 8:56am CST
Come on, preorders. I've been excited about MP Dirge since the first images surfaced.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848030)
Posted by Relic0037 on December 20th, 2016 @ 9:12am CST
I still need to get Thrust.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848035)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on December 20th, 2016 @ 9:19am CST
Dirge doesn't look bad at all in robot mode; He just needs the face swiping gimmick. In his jet mode, his wings have tiny Decepticon symbols, making him look awfully plain in his alt-mode.
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I also noticed how dark Dirge's wings are in this photo. If the Masterpiece Dirge's wings were a little darker, then perhaps they would complement the rest of Dirge's body.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848038)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on December 20th, 2016 @ 9:58am CST
Premium Collectibles appears to have sold out of pre-orders already.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848043)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 20th, 2016 @ 10:36am CST
MegaDump wrote:Those purple kneecaps look... Unusual.
They come from both the original 1985 toy and the cartoon model. All three Coneheads had them.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848151)
Posted by Cyberpath on December 20th, 2016 @ 4:58pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
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I would have expected the 2nd season jets to have less "kibble" because the nosecone would actually be used for something in bot mode.. but it's even more prominent.

That huge nosecone sticking between the legs... it's not great.

I still don't have any of the MP-11 toys so I'm not completely familiar with the transformation yet -- why didn't they use the actual jet piece for the head?

But otherwise he looks pretty cool.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848155)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 20th, 2016 @ 5:30pm CST
Cyberpath wrote:I still don't have any of the MP-11 toys so I'm not completely familiar with the transformation yet -- why didn't they use the actual jet piece for the head?
Probably because it would have made for a ginormous conehead. And if they'd shrunk it down to be more proportionate for the robot mode head, then the jet mode would have likely ended up with a humorously dinky nosecone that would have looked far too ridiculously small when compared to the rest of the realistic-looking jet body.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848165)
Posted by lowman_x on December 20th, 2016 @ 7:42pm CST
Cyberpath wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
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I would have expected the 2nd season jets to have less "kibble" because the nosecone would actually be used for something in bot mode.. but it's even more prominent.

That huge nosecone sticking between the legs... it's not great.



In the immortal words of Fat Bastard: "Ah've got a turtle head pokin' out! It's all soft and squidgy!"
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848173)
Posted by william-james88 on December 20th, 2016 @ 8:51pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:I still don't have any of the MP-11 toys so I'm not completely familiar with the transformation yet -- why didn't they use the actual jet piece for the head?
Probably because it would have made for a ginormous conehead. And if they'd shrunk it down to be more proportionate for the robot mode head, then the jet mode would have likely ended up with a humorously dinky nosecone that would have looked far too ridiculously small when compared to the rest of the realistic-looking jet body.


I will forever disagree. The classics toys did something simple but smart which the amsterpiece line could have ameliorated on:

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Transformers Henkei Thrust Gallery

And if it had to be a fake head they could have done a new mold to make a cleaner transformation that hides the nosecone. But no, instead they reused the same scheme from 10 years ago and just stick the nosecone in the back.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848174)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 20th, 2016 @ 9:11pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:I still don't have any of the MP-11 toys so I'm not completely familiar with the transformation yet -- why didn't they use the actual jet piece for the head?
Probably because it would have made for a ginormous conehead. And if they'd shrunk it down to be more proportionate for the robot mode head, then the jet mode would have likely ended up with a humorously dinky nosecone that would have looked far too ridiculously small when compared to the rest of the realistic-looking jet body.


I will forever disagree. The classics toys did something simple but smart which the amsterpiece line could have ameliorated on:

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Transformers Henkei Thrust Gallery

And if it had to be a fake head they could have done a new mold to make a cleaner transformation that hides the nosecone. But no, instead they reused the same scheme from 10 years ago and just stick the nosecone in the back.
The nosecone of the Classics Seeker mold is built differently from the nosecone of the MP Seeker mold. The Classics Seeker mold built the robot mode head into the nosecone; the MP Seeker mold did not.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848201)
Posted by DetectiveFork on December 20th, 2016 @ 11:09pm CST
I just can't stand the gray patches on the fuselages of both Thrust and Dirge. Ruins the color schemes for me.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848348)
Posted by sol magnus on December 21st, 2016 @ 8:24pm CST
Come on, pre-orders! Looks like TFSource had a stealth preorder. ANNNND ordered!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848358)
Posted by Dagon on December 21st, 2016 @ 9:15pm CST
sol magnus wrote:Come on, pre-orders! Looks like TFSource had a stealth preorder. ANNNND ordered!



BBTS has it for the same price as TFSource. I put my preorder in at 9 this morning. So excited!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11ND Dirge Revealed (1848408)
Posted by Dagon on December 22nd, 2016 @ 9:34am CST
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:I still don't have any of the MP-11 toys so I'm not completely familiar with the transformation yet -- why didn't they use the actual jet piece for the head?
Probably because it would have made for a ginormous conehead. And if they'd shrunk it down to be more proportionate for the robot mode head, then the jet mode would have likely ended up with a humorously dinky nosecone that would have looked far too ridiculously small when compared to the rest of the realistic-looking jet body.


I will forever disagree. The classics toys did something simple but smart which the amsterpiece line could have ameliorated on:

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Transformers Henkei Thrust Gallery

And if it had to be a fake head they could have done a new mold to make a cleaner transformation that hides the nosecone. But no, instead they reused the same scheme from 10 years ago and just stick the nosecone in the back.


The MP Coneheads are not as bad as you're exaggerating them to be. Yeah, the Classics Coneheads did an interesting thing with the nosecone, but if you're making this big a deal out of a visible nosecone on the MPs, how well would an eternally visible face in jet mode sit with you? And that's just if they maintained the thing from the Classics design. If they made a jet nosecone helmet type thing, the nosecone would be too big and it would look dumb.It also makes the jet mode of the Classics Coneheads look short and, I think, bad.
I've got Ramjet and Thrust, and with exceptionally little effort have managed to position the jet nose in such a way that only by expressly looking to see it is it visible, and even then it's not much. It being black lets it hide itself between Ramjets' thighs, and it is surprisingly unifying visually with the black of Thrusts' chest. I think the visibility is more of an issue on Dirge because the color is grey instead of black, and I'm not sure why the nose doesn't plug in the way it did on the original MP Seeker mold.

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