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Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:By daggum, you got a point there. But if this is MW Soundwave, then what kind of hodgepodge of a combiner are we looking at here?

I think it is already one hell of a hodgepodge combiner. I mean since when is Takara all about toy accuracy.

Sabrblade wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:So, what do we know about the Rook leg?

• Off-white shell with red highlights.
• Red chest peg.
• Black head with red crest.

What you describe as "off-white" and "red" look more "tan" and "orange" to a lot of other people (myself included), which MW Soundwave isn't (he's gray and maroon).

The weapon is definitely orange, but the main body looks to be red, brown, and a very light tan.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:So, what do we know about the Rook leg?

• Off-white shell with red highlights.
• Red chest peg.
• Black head with red crest.

What you describe as "off-white" and "red" look more "tan" and "orange" to a lot of other people (myself included), which MW Soundwave isn't (he's gray and maroon).

The weapon is definitely orange, but the main body looks to be red, brown, and a very light tan.

Sorry, definitely looks orange and brown to me, but I think mw soundwave is still the frontrunner for whoever this is supposed to be.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:So, what do we know about the Rook leg?

• Off-white shell with red highlights.
• Red chest peg.
• Black head with red crest.

What you describe as "off-white" and "red" look more "tan" and "orange" to a lot of other people (myself included), which MW Soundwave isn't (he's gray and maroon).

The weapon is definitely orange, but the main body looks to be red, brown, and a very light tan.

Sorry, definitely looks orange and brown to me, but I think mw soundwave is still the frontrunner for whoever this is supposed to be.

On this, we agree. I mean, who else could it be besides Demolishor?

Armada hoist technically fits the color scheme (as I see it) perfectly, even the claw gizmo makes sense, but that would take a lot of explaining in both fiction and to us, the fans...

I've been assuming Armada Thrust or Cybertron Crumplezone for the Left Arm, but the Armada comics featured a classic G1 character as an inter-dimensional herald of Unicron...



And he has had a color scheme that's a a pretty close match for the left arm:



Maybe the left arm is a double homage to Thrust (who ended up working for Unicron in the Cartoon) and Thunderwing (who served him in the DW comics) and looked very similar to Armada Thrust in the Marvel comics? Or is that too convoluted?

Maybe the whole point of this combiner is represent a multiversal combiner - sort of a Nemesis Nexus, made of Transformers culled from across multiple Universes. The right leg could be a bizarre take on Cybertron Soundwave or Beast Wars Neo Elephorca?

Though, if they went anywhere in the servants of Unicron direction, it's too bad they're not doing the Four Horsemen.

Ragerobot wrote:Much speculation about MW soundwave, but the article specifically stated the individual bots will be from the Unicron trilogy which, if I'm not mistaken, does not include MW.

What article? The news post? That's just speculation, if that's true, who's the blue offroad then?

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Have a hard time believing that they're doing UT homages and NOT doing Armada Sideways.

Gotta get SOME use out of that Deluxe Groove mold.

Yeah, it'd be a serious d!ck move, if neither company ever uses that mold again, especially TT, since they made it in the first place

Override guys? (Unsure if thats the exact name) plus that mold doesn't look like armada Sideways too much unless you do some major retooling that requires just some fanagling but why do people need fogures for characters that bad when its better for an armada character to get an new mold just look at cw onslaught with demolishers head people wanted it even though it barely looked anything like demolisher, and I find its better for armada characters to get new molds for their figures unless the mold fits them perfectly its pretty good but most pf the time they don't when fans want the character with the mold sometimes

BTW:the left arm is obviously h1 starscreams colors, the right is armada thrust's, the left leg is probably soundwave or g1 crankcase, but I don't know what the roght leg is but when you look at it, it has the colors orange, black, and grey so I don't get why people think its red demolisher....

Starsaber468 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Have a hard time believing that they're doing UT homages and NOT doing Armada Sideways.

Gotta get SOME use out of that Deluxe Groove mold.

Yeah, it'd be a serious d!ck move, if neither company ever uses that mold again, especially TT, since they made it in the first place

Override guys? (Unsure if thats the exact name) plus that mold doesn't look like armada Sideways too much unless you do some major retooling that requires just some fanagling but why do people need figures for characters that bad when its better for an armada character to get a new mold, just look at cw onslaught with demolishers head people wanted it even though it barely looked anything like demolisher, and I find its better for armada characters to get new molds for their figures unless the mold fits them perfectly its pretty good but most of the time they don't when fans want the character with the mold sometimes

I would have never bought that demolisher unless it had a new combined mode head

Why do we want these figures? Because they're homages, and the fact that has/tak don't seem very interested in anything other than G1 stuff, if they're going to ignore the bw anniversary, what are the chances of getting updates to ut stuff?

Besides, if they're going to homage figures already, why give us a seeker when they could give us a cooler figure like sideways from bigroove?

And the starscream figure could just as likely be energon starscream in his second form (energon screamer in g1 colors)



(this is, of course, assuming that they are all supposed to ut homages - which hasn't been confirmed)

Starsaber468 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:So, what do we know about the Rook leg?

• Off-white shell with red highlights.
• Red chest peg.
• Black head with red crest.

What you describe as "off-white" and "red" look more "tan" and "orange" to a lot of other people (myself included), which MW Soundwave isn't (he's gray and maroon).

The weapon is definitely orange, but the main body looks to be red, brown, and a very light tan.

Sorry, definitely looks orange and brown to me, but I think mw soundwave is still the frontrunner for whoever this is supposed to be.

On this, we agree. I mean, who else could it be besides Demolishor?

Armada hoist technically fits the color scheme (as I see it) perfectly, even the claw gizmo makes sense, but that would take a lot of explaining in both fiction and to us, the fans...

Except aramada hoist was mostly white, and the legs mostly black, their was a little orange but their is no white but silver plus wouldn't be odd to give a seemingly all decepticon combiner team 1 autobot limb in the mix

Seems pretty brown and orange to me



And as I said, even if they did it, it would require some explanations, but just look at what hasbro expected us to do with glavatronus, that alone set the precedent for having a 'mixed allegiance' combiner.

Starsaber468 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, it'd be a serious d!ck move, if neither company ever uses that mold again, especially TT, since they made it in the first place

Override guys? (Unsure if thats the exact name) plus that mold doesn't look like armada Sideways too much unless you do some major retooling that requires just some fanagling but why do people need figures for characters that bad when its better for an armada character to get a new mold, just look at cw onslaught with demolishers head people wanted it even though it barely looked anything like demolisher, and I find its better for armada characters to get new molds for their figures unless the mold fits them perfectly its pretty good but most of the time they don't when fans want the character with the mold sometimes

I would have never bought that demolisher unless it had a new combined mode head

Why do we want these figures? Because they're homages, and the fact that has/tak don't seem very interested in anything other than G1 stuff, if they're going to ignore the bw anniversary, what are the chances of getting updates to ut stuff?

Besides, if they're going to homage figures already, why give us a seeker when they could give us a cooler figure like sideways from bigroove?

And the starscream figure could just as likely be energon starscream in his second form (energon screamer in g1 colors)



(this is, of course, assuming that they are all supposed to ut homages - which hasn't been confirmed)

Takara is making an MP Optimus Primal their not ignoring Beast wars plus Battle Core Optimus Prime seems like a Star convoy homage but the more I think about it I only see Nova Prime, and the colors don't match the colors of super link starscream its more of what starscream is and was plus we have been getting a lot more unicron trilogy updates Armada Megatron, and Armada Starscream. Also their probably are ignoring beast wars because its the anniversary of the orginal transformers g1 movie

One mp does not an anniversary celebration line make (especially compared to the glorification g1 has been getting this past half-decade - and will, no doubt, be getting the year after that, or whenever), nor do two ut figures (one a pitiful approximation based on a crap mold, and the other far too small) constitute 'a lot'of armada updates...

And what does bc/op have to do with anything we were talking about?

As for starscream, it's an homage, and I clearly stated that it could be him ONLY IF IT WERE TRUE THAT THE ENTIRE FIGURE WERE MADE UP OF UT HOMAGES, if it isn't, then, yeah, its probably g1, but, come to think of it, armada ramjet had a similar color layout, and he was definitely related to Unicron