TakaraTomy Mall Exclusive Masterpiece Cassettes Set Teased
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Posted by Big Grim on June 21st, 2017 @ 4:19am CDT
Posted by Qwan on June 21st, 2017 @ 4:36am CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:18am CDT
Qwan wrote:Now correct me if I'm wrong but... we haven't seen that Steeljaw-body-type mold before have we? Notably it's the only 'silhouette' here with visible details. Plus it looks like there's some kind of (at least slight) retooling on the Ravage-type mold, giving him what looks like some 'wings' on his rockets? Interesting... I look forward to seeing what they end up being for certain.
The retooling of Ravage is for Stripes. When they were released with Twincast, Stripes was given G1 Steeljaw's weapons in a different color, and Nightstalker (Steeljaw recolor) was given G1 Ravage's weapons. Essentially, the weapons just switched molds to make them different beyond just the recoloring.
Posted by Qwan on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:40am CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Qwan wrote:Now correct me if I'm wrong but... we haven't seen that Steeljaw-body-type mold before have we? Notably it's the only 'silhouette' here with visible details. Plus it looks like there's some kind of (at least slight) retooling on the Ravage-type mold, giving him what looks like some 'wings' on his rockets? Interesting... I look forward to seeing what they end up being for certain.
The retooling of Ravage is for Stripes. When they were released with Twincast, Stripes was given G1 Steeljaw's weapons in a different color, and Nightstalker (Steeljaw recolor) was given G1 Ravage's weapons. Essentially, the weapons just switched molds to make them different beyond just the recoloring.
Ahhh, of course. Thanks! I'm still very interested to see what the exact differences end up looking like, then - IIRC, one of the main complaints about MP Ravage (beside the panels on the forelegs) was that his rockets were too dinky and weak looking. It looks like these'll be a bit bigger due to what seems to be a bit of panel expansion, so that might actually be one fairly-common issue with the mold solved!
Posted by Kurona on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:45am CDT
Unfortunately no Howlback yet but I'm holding out for her! Man am I tempted by Wingthing though...
Posted by Rated X on June 21st, 2017 @ 7:04am CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on June 21st, 2017 @ 7:16am CDT
Posted by Hydrargyrus on June 21st, 2017 @ 7:22am CDT
Enemy
Stripes
Nightstalker
Wingthing
Frenzy and Rumble have individual releases of their own, Steeljaw wouldn't fit the theme and will probably be released with Blaster, and while Wingthing would make more sense, I could see Ratbat getting released here as well.
Posted by Kurona on June 21st, 2017 @ 8:00am CDT
MagicDeath wrote:I'm guessing:
Enemy
Stripes
Nightstalker
Wingthing
Frenzy and Rumble have individual releases of their own, Steeljaw wouldn't fit the theme and will probably be released with Blaster, and while Wingthing would make more sense, I could see Ratbat getting released here as well.
You're completely correct -- as the website states
Posted by wilcosu35 on June 21st, 2017 @ 8:25am CDT
Posted by shajaki on June 21st, 2017 @ 8:41am CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on June 21st, 2017 @ 9:00am CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 21st, 2017 @ 9:00am CDT
wilcosu35 wrote:If i'm getting this correct, these are based on toy-only appearances and are mostly redeoes/retools of molds that we've already gotten for soundwave?
Enemy, Stripes and Wingthing are repaints of Rumble/Frenzy, Ravage and Ratbat respectively and are based on toy characters that rarely if ever pull in fictional appearances. Nightstalker on the other hand is a redeco of an as-of-yet unreleased Masterpiece Steeljaw - hence the first look we're getting at the mold - and is based on the Marvel US/UK character.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 21st, 2017 @ 9:01am CDT
They are MP versions of the cassettes who came with the Encore reissues of Twincast and Soundblaster.wilcosu35 wrote:If i'm getting this correct, these are based on toy-only appearances and are mostly redeoes/retools of molds that we've already gotten for soundwave?
Posted by wilcosu35 on June 21st, 2017 @ 9:09am CDT
Kurona wrote:wilcosu35 wrote:If i'm getting this correct, these are based on toy-only appearances and are mostly redeoes/retools of molds that we've already gotten for soundwave?
Enemy, Stripes and Wingthing are repaints of Rumble/Frenzy, Ravage and Ratbat respectively and are based on toy characters that rarely if ever pull in fictional appearances. Nightstalker on the other hand is a redeco of an as-of-yet unreleased Masterpiece Steeljaw - hence the first look we're getting at the mold - and is based on the Marvel US/UK character.
Nothing that i feel i should get, then. I will be eagerly awaiting Blaster and his minions, though.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on June 21st, 2017 @ 9:18am CDT
Kurona wrote:MagicDeath wrote:I'm guessing:
Enemy
Stripes
Nightstalker
Wingthing
Frenzy and Rumble have individual releases of their own, Steeljaw wouldn't fit the theme and will probably be released with Blaster, and while Wingthing would make more sense, I could see Ratbat getting released here as well.
You're completely correct -- as the website states
Yet another lesson on the importance of reading the entire post.
Also: Dangit! I was kinda hoping to get a Ratbat for my Hasbro Soundwave
Posted by shajaki on June 21st, 2017 @ 10:50am CDT
Posted by Big Grim on June 21st, 2017 @ 11:15am CDT
Posted by shajaki on June 21st, 2017 @ 12:13pm CDT
And these ones right?Big Grim wrote:That would make me SUPER happy and I'd have them all. Then demand the Cobalt Sentries.shajaki wrote:Lotsa talking, and no images.
These are the fellas in question:
And these?
And this one?
And these?
And these?
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on June 21st, 2017 @ 1:11pm CDT
shajaki wrote:And these ones right?Big Grim wrote:That would make me SUPER happy and I'd have them all. Then demand the Cobalt Sentries.shajaki wrote:Lotsa talking, and no images.
These are the fellas in question:
And these?
And this one?
And these?
And these?
We're still ignoring two of the most underrated cassettes out there. It's silly (to me) that we don't have Overkill and Slugfest already. Hell, Slugfest gets CONSISTENTLY shafted in general.
That being said, I'm glad we're getting more Audicons. The more of those, the better. Maybe they'll make the (also underrated) G1 version of Blockrock.
Posted by steals_your_goats on June 21st, 2017 @ 2:17pm CDT
shajaki wrote:And these ones right?Big Grim wrote:That would make me SUPER happy and I'd have them all. Then demand the Cobalt Sentries.shajaki wrote:Lotsa talking, and no images.
These are the fellas in question:
And these?
And this one?
And these?
And these?
Yes please! All of the above and more! Especially the dinosaur combiners
Posted by Kurona on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:37pm CDT
Or maybe they'll prove me wrong and bring out a Squawkbox which delivers on everything I could ever have wanted from them
Posted by Relic0037 on June 21st, 2017 @ 8:06pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on June 22nd, 2017 @ 8:23am CDT
What I'm really looking forward to is an MP Rewind/Eject. Specifically so it can get redecoed into Rosanna, and more importantly, Flip Sides.
Posted by Big Grim on June 22nd, 2017 @ 10:03am CDT
shajaki wrote:And these ones right?
*Pictures of awesome Cassettecons*
Yup. Gimme all the Cassette Robots!
Kurona wrote:I doubt we'll get the later-year cassetticons like Squawktalk unless they make them a redeco of Laserbeak though. At best the latest cassetticon we'll get would be Slugfest and Overkill since those are the last cassettes that appeared in the cartoon.
Pretty much why I went the 3rd party route for "almost-but-not-really" MP Cassettecons.
Posted by shajaki on June 22nd, 2017 @ 1:02pm CDT
I'm still surprised to hear people say things like this. There is no room in the MP line for no effort repaints. Like, if a character is different enough to have his own mold or midifications, he does. Best example I can think of to prove my point, TFCC's new Counterpunch. That's a clear instance of something that isn't right, but made workable, just cuz. Show me one time the MP line has done that? The only thing that comes close is MP-2 Ultra Magnus, but I still say it works because the OG toy did indeed have a fully transformable white Prime that looked like that.Kurona wrote:I doubt we'll get the later-year cassetticons like Squawktalk unless they make them a redeco of Laserbeak though.
Posted by Kurona on June 22nd, 2017 @ 1:05pm CDT
shajaki wrote:I'm still surprised to hear people say things like this. There is no room in the MP line for no effort repaints. Like, if a character is different enough to have his own mold or midifications, he does. Best example I can think of to prove my point, TFCC's new Counterpunch. That's a clear instance of something that isn't right, but made workable, just cuz. Show me one time the MP line has done that? The only thing that comes close is MP-2 Ultra Magnus, but I still say it works because the OG toy did indeed have a fully transformable white Prime that looked like that.Kurona wrote:I doubt we'll get the later-year cassetticons like Squawktalk unless they make them a redeco of Laserbeak though.
This very set - Wingthing being a redeco of Ratbat
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 22nd, 2017 @ 1:09pm CDT
Kurona wrote:shajaki wrote:I'm still surprised to hear people say things like this. There is no room in the MP line for no effort repaints. Like, if a character is different enough to have his own mold or midifications, he does. Best example I can think of to prove my point, TFCC's new Counterpunch. That's a clear instance of something that isn't right, but made workable, just cuz. Show me one time the MP line has done that? The only thing that comes close is MP-2 Ultra Magnus, but I still say it works because the OG toy did indeed have a fully transformable white Prime that looked like that.Kurona wrote:I doubt we'll get the later-year cassetticons like Squawktalk unless they make them a redeco of Laserbeak though.
This very set - Wingthing being a redeco of Ratbat
Invalid! Wingthing was redecoed from G1 Ratbat and included with Encore Soundblaster, therefore there is a precedent.
Posted by Kurona on June 22nd, 2017 @ 2:02pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:Kurona wrote:shajaki wrote:I'm still surprised to hear people say things like this. There is no room in the MP line for no effort repaints. Like, if a character is different enough to have his own mold or midifications, he does. Best example I can think of to prove my point, TFCC's new Counterpunch. That's a clear instance of something that isn't right, but made workable, just cuz. Show me one time the MP line has done that? The only thing that comes close is MP-2 Ultra Magnus, but I still say it works because the OG toy did indeed have a fully transformable white Prime that looked like that.Kurona wrote:I doubt we'll get the later-year cassetticons like Squawktalk unless they make them a redeco of Laserbeak though.
This very set - Wingthing being a redeco of Ratbat
Invalid! Wingthing was redecoed from G1 Ratbat and included with Encore Soundblaster, therefore there is a precedent.
It may be precedent, but it's still not accurate to his original appearance
In all seriousness that "unless they make them a redeco" thing was just on the side; that that's the ONLY way we'd ever get a Squawktalk from this line - not that it's likely.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2017 @ 6:23pm CDT
It's accurate to his original Japanese appearance.Kurona wrote:Sigma Magnus wrote:Kurona wrote:shajaki wrote:I'm still surprised to hear people say things like this. There is no room in the MP line for no effort repaints. Like, if a character is different enough to have his own mold or midifications, he does. Best example I can think of to prove my point, TFCC's new Counterpunch. That's a clear instance of something that isn't right, but made workable, just cuz. Show me one time the MP line has done that? The only thing that comes close is MP-2 Ultra Magnus, but I still say it works because the OG toy did indeed have a fully transformable white Prime that looked like that.Kurona wrote:I doubt we'll get the later-year cassetticons like Squawktalk unless they make them a redeco of Laserbeak though.
This very set - Wingthing being a redeco of Ratbat
Invalid! Wingthing was redecoed from G1 Ratbat and included with Encore Soundblaster, therefore there is a precedent.
It may be precedent, but it's still not accurate to his original appearance
Posted by Cyberpath on June 27th, 2017 @ 1:44am CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 27th, 2017 @ 1:51am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 27th, 2017 @ 2:15am CDT
Also, quite interesting that the set has the ID MP15/16-E, derived from the other two cassette sets.
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on June 27th, 2017 @ 2:50am CDT
Wingthing didn't quite end up in the color I was hoping for. But f*** it! AUDICONS!
I'm excited to see how Nightstalker transforms.
Posted by Blackstreak on June 27th, 2017 @ 3:17am CDT
Posted by Rellko on June 27th, 2017 @ 3:56am CDT
Posted by Emerje on June 27th, 2017 @ 4:10am CDT
DecepticonFinishline wrote:AUDICONS!
I've never heard them called "Audicons" before, especially since the two cats are Autobots. Usually they're called Mini-Cassettes or Cassette Warriors (or just cassettes or tapes).
This is an Audi-Con:
Blackstreak wrote:Awesome! How do I order them? I can't read Japanese. Is this the only venue to get them?
They're exclusive to Takara Tomy Mall in Japan, but the TTM exclusives often end up as Asia retail exclusives as well so there's a chance of that happening. Either way we'll certainly see them imported through sites like TFSource and BBTS as well. Of course you could always try using a proxy service and order them directly, but that's not necessarily the cheapest rout.
Emerje
Posted by Windsweeper on June 27th, 2017 @ 5:18am CDT
While the colours look good on Stripes, I still think the mold is inferior to Device Label Ravage who could move his jaw, making him more expressive.
I never liked Nightstalker using Steeljaws molds. I always saw him as Ravage's twin and felt he should have shared Ravage's mold.
Anyway else find it interesting that if you translate Enemy's name to Hebrew, we've got a Transformer named Satan?
Posted by dragons on June 27th, 2017 @ 7:09am CDT
Windsweeper wrote:I like the look of Enemy and Wingthing.
While the colours look good on Stripes, I still think the mold is inferior to Device Label Ravage who could move his jaw, making him more expressive.
I never liked Nightstalker using Steeljaws molds. I always saw him as Ravage's twin and felt he should have shared Ravage's mold.
Anyway else find it interesting that if you translate Enemy's name to Hebrew, we've got a Transformer named Satan?
Unless I'm thinking about generation one figure of steel thought there was master piece version of that figure
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 27th, 2017 @ 7:34am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on June 27th, 2017 @ 7:50am CDT
Autobot cassettes?! AWESOME!
And a new Mold?! AWESOME!
Posted by Aharown on June 27th, 2017 @ 8:04am CDT
Windsweeper wrote:Anyway else find it interesting that if you translate Enemy's name to Hebrew, we've got a Transformer named Satan?
Actually, Satan means Adversary in Hebrew. Oyeb is the transliterated word for enemy.
Posted by ScottyP on June 27th, 2017 @ 8:46am CDT
Transformers Encore Nightstalker Gallery
Or instead of a black repaint of a black toy you could buy a second Ravage and slap an Autobot logo on himWindsweeper wrote:
I never liked Nightstalker using Steeljaws molds. I always saw him as Ravage's twin and felt he should have shared Ravage's mold.
Posted by galvatron00 on June 27th, 2017 @ 9:28am CDT
MP Wing Thing forever!!
Posted by kurthy on June 27th, 2017 @ 9:29am CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on June 27th, 2017 @ 9:30am CDT
Yes.kurthy wrote:If you ship Frenzy and Enemy, do you get Frenemy?
Posted by Cobotron on June 27th, 2017 @ 9:38am CDT
Just noticing Stripes's hind quarters are retooled. I wonder if they could combine Nightstalker's front half with Stripes's back to get Steeljaw?ScottyP wrote:I hope Nightstalker's very weird looking missiles are just a play on that toy using Ravage's missiles instead of Steeljaw's cannons. Steeljaw will need some serious retooling from that to look right.
Posted by galvatron00 on June 27th, 2017 @ 9:40am CDT
Hmmm...yeeeessss..Cobotron wrote:Just noticing Stripes's hind quarters are retooled. I wonder if they could combine Nightstalker's front half with Stripes's back to get Steeljaw?ScottyP wrote:I hope Nightstalker's very weird looking missiles are just a play on that toy using Ravage's missiles instead of Steeljaw's cannons. Steeljaw will need some serious retooling from that to look right.
Posted by Desslok2201 on June 27th, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
Rellko wrote:Masterpiece Blaster, Masterpiece Blaster... It's got to happen...
More importantly, MP Twincast redeco!!
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on June 27th, 2017 @ 1:10pm CDT
Emerje wrote:DecepticonFinishline wrote:AUDICONS!
I've never heard them called "Audicons" before, especially since the two cats are Autobots. Usually they're called Mini-Cassettes or Cassette Warriors (or just cassettes or tapes).
This is an Audi-Con:
Blackstreak wrote:Awesome! How do I order them? I can't read Japanese. Is this the only venue to get them?
They're exclusive to Takara Tomy Mall in Japan, but the TTM exclusives often end up as Asia retail exclusives as well so there's a chance of that happening. Either way we'll certainly see them imported through sites like TFSource and BBTS as well. Of course you could always try using a proxy service and order them directly, but that's not necessarily the cheapest rout.
Emerje
Before I realllly started getting in to collecting, Soundwave and the Cassettes were already my favorites just because of what they were.
So. When I was learning about combiner teams, and how the each had a team name, I self-assigned the cassettes Audicons (audio-cons). Then I realized that the -bots and -cons suffix lined up with their faction. I came up with "Soundbots" but that just sounds stupid. I ultimately decided that if an entire race of transformers can be called "Mini-cons" and not all be Decepticons, then I would just stick with Audicons as a collective name.
A number of years ago, I was hoping it would catch on. At this point, I am just stuck with the term by habit.