TF3 Opening Sequence Description- MOVIE RUMOR
Thursday, July 15th, 2010 4:08PM CDT
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Seibertronian MYoung23 has shared a link to chud.com in which a spoilerific description of the opening sequence of TF3 has been shared. Blastr.com also relates the same idea on their website.
Click either link above to view the individual site's write up on the supposed spoiler.
The main idea of the articles are (highlight text if you want to read)There's a disturbance on the Moon. A robot shaped disturbance. Scientists on Earth see this and the information gets passed up the chain of command. In the White House men in black suits are breathlessly running through the halls, and they burst into the Oval Office. The president is behind the desk, back turned to the door, looking out the window. One of the men tells the president, 'Sir, something's happened on the Moon!' The president turns around.
It's John F. Kennedy.
Please remember, this is an unofficial source, so any news is always to be taken with a shaker of salt.
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Posted by Burn on July 15th, 2010 @ 4:21pm CDT
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Yeah that right there makes no sense.
Posted by prmlove1 on July 15th, 2010 @ 4:24pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on July 15th, 2010 @ 4:34pm CDT
Posted by partholon on July 15th, 2010 @ 4:39pm CDT
i dont know .
i suppose it could be fun and certainly opens up ideas, but we know from the vids weve seen that most of the pic takes place now so i suppose its a way to introduce shockwave or something and show why he wasnt about in the last two.
Posted by Leviathan on July 15th, 2010 @ 4:52pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus2006 on July 15th, 2010 @ 4:58pm CDT
The decipticons travel back in time to alter the events of current affairs to their favor in present time the Humans hate the Autobots hence the who Autobots go home deal.
Ive stated before that I think that TF 3 will be about Time Travel and this is a big part of the movie.
Also I think that this is going to be part of the movie's crescendo ending.
They use time to change back before they even meet the transformers thus they were never on earth it will be like they never was there.
The movie will jump alot between the past and present such as the movie opening up with the JFK sequence then the movie shifts towards present time.
Transformers 3 - Beyond Time & Space
Transformers 3 - Timelines
Transformers 3 - Echoes of the Past
So Ive stated before that the plot of Transformers 3 will be time or the timeline if you do something in the past it will effect things in the present.
Also I suspect that Shocwave is the robot on the moon doing the changing of the timeline.
This is my theory.
Posted by D-340 on July 15th, 2010 @ 5:02pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on July 15th, 2010 @ 5:08pm CDT
Rodimus2006 wrote:Also I suspect that Shockwave is the robot on the moon doing the changing of the timeline.
This is my theory.
Well, that could be the answer. But yet, it also couldn't be the answer. Remember, the Transformers as a species have been around for millions of years, and that he is actually from the 1960's time, not from the present. Just think about the beginning of Revenge of the Fallen. The beginning to place a few thousand years before the first Transformers, and the Fallen then wasn't a time traveler, rather, a denizen of that time.
Any questions?
Posted by Rodimus2006 on July 15th, 2010 @ 5:23pm CDT
He could also be the one altering the timeline.
The movie begine in 1960's like they said they shift to the moon and show the disturbance also the movie begins with Optimus talking about something wrong with the timeline and stuff about time.
Then we shift towards present time now being 2010 the movie opens up with a huge battle scene in Moscow then we shift towards US with whats going on there with Sam and his new lady and the film picks up from there.
My guess on TF 3 running time is 2hrs and 25 minutes.
Posted by First-Aid on July 15th, 2010 @ 5:28pm CDT
Actually it makes sense to me. I doubt they mention "robot shaped disturbance" as they wouldn't have the tech at the time to distinguish anything specifically on the moon. But they would certainly be wondering what was going on as they could detect at least SOME changes on the moon's surface. Then the Soviets and the US would race to see who gets to make "first contact". I also theorize that the robot on the moon is Shockwave and doubt there is time travel. I think we're just dealing with flashbacks. As for the pictures of the Datsun BB being in the past, that is instantly debunked by the fact that the Aston Martin is in the same scene.
I just wish they didn't have to use the most overrated President in US history....
Posted by Omega Rodimus on July 15th, 2010 @ 5:53pm CDT
Burn wrote:A "robot shaped disturbance"
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Yeah that right there makes no sense.
Yea...actually it does! Think bout it, just gotta think about it and the era this is taking place in.
Posted by DavidT on July 15th, 2010 @ 5:56pm CDT
Posted by autobot-jolt on July 15th, 2010 @ 6:49pm CDT
Rodimus2006 wrote:Shockwave was just on the moon cause he could have a base up there or his ship crash landed on the moon.
He could also be the one altering the timeline.
The movie begine in 1960's like they said they shift to the moon and show the disturbance also the movie begins with Optimus talking about something wrong with the timeline and stuff about time.
Then we shift towards present time now being 2010 the movie opens up with a huge battle scene in Moscow then we shift towards US with whats going on there with Sam and his new lady and the film picks up from there.
My guess on TF 3 running time is 2hrs and 25 minutes.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Rodimus, but there is not going to be a fight in Moscow. I'm assuming you've played RotF for PS3/Xbox360/PC. Remember the cutscene before you start the level with Sideways? As NEST is scanning Shanghai, Lennox comments that the atmosphere "feels like Moscow last month. Same background interference."
Hence, Moscow not a battle zone in TF3.
Posted by First-Aid on July 15th, 2010 @ 7:42pm CDT
DavidT wrote:Well why is Sam and Mikaela or whoever she ends up being, getting into the Datsun if that's supposed to be the past?
Don't think it's in the past at all...because the Aston Martin Vanquish is in the same scene.
Posted by Galvatron X on July 15th, 2010 @ 7:52pm CDT
Posted by Bouncy X on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:06pm CDT
they already stated the story would be about the Transformers involvement with the space program so a flashback to the 60s would make sense since Kennedy's the one who started all that.
makes me wonder what people woulda said had TF2's opening been revealed like this. "ohhhh...so its about going back 1000s of years in time to alter our present"
Posted by alexison on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:07pm CDT
Energon Is My Drug wrote:PLEASE PLEASE don't let there be any time travel in Transformers 3...
Seconded
Posted by Galvatron X on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:09pm CDT
Bouncy X wrote:wow....look at all the jumping to conclusions with time travel. lol
they already stated the story would be about the Transformers involvement with the space program so a flashback to the 60s would make sense since Kennedy's the one who started all that.
makes me wonder what people woulda said had TF2's opening been revealed like this. "ohhhh...so its about going back 1000s of years in time to alter our present"
Yeah, I hear ya, but just hearing people speculate about it makes me SOOO nervous!
Posted by medabotsoundwave on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:18pm CDT
JFK was assassinated in 1963.
We didnt go to the moon until 1969, when Nixon was president.
Strange, unless JFK actually didnt die and instead jumped in a nixon suit. maybe im not getting something here....
Edit: Nope, im sure what i think is correct. Yay, now the writer doesnt even know history!
Posted by First-Aid on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:22pm CDT
medabotsoundwave wrote:Facts:
JFK was assassinated in 1963.
We didnt go to the moon until 1969, when Nixon was president.
Strange, unless JFK actually didnt die and instead jumped in a nixon suit. maybe im not getting something here....
This oughta help.
http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html
Posted by medabotsoundwave on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:25pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:medabotsoundwave wrote:Facts:
JFK was assassinated in 1963.
We didnt go to the moon until 1969, when Nixon was president.
Strange, unless JFK actually didnt die and instead jumped in a nixon suit. maybe im not getting something here....
This oughta help.
http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html
But how would we know whats happening on the moon before 1963 if we didnt go there until 1969?
Edit: Apparently, i forgot about satellites. But what reason would we have to watch the moon?
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:38pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on July 15th, 2010 @ 8:40pm CDT
medabotsoundwave wrote:First-Aid wrote:medabotsoundwave wrote:Facts:
JFK was assassinated in 1963.
We didnt go to the moon until 1969, when Nixon was president.
Strange, unless JFK actually didnt die and instead jumped in a nixon suit. maybe im not getting something here....
This oughta help.
http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html
But how would we know whats happening on the moon before 1963 if we didnt go there until 1969?
Edit: Apparently, i forgot about satellites. But what reason would we have to watch the moon?
There were no satellites at that time. THere was one invention though that had been around for a few hundred years: the telescope.
Posted by YRQRM0 on July 15th, 2010 @ 9:01pm CDT
Posted by Midnight_Fox on July 15th, 2010 @ 9:09pm CDT
Bouncy X wrote:since Kennedy's the one who started all that.
Except that he didn't.
Nasa was started in 1958. Kennedy became President in 1961.
Thank Eisenhower, NOT Kennedy.
As to people thinking Kennedy was wholly responsible for the Apollo program:
"Conceived during the presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower and conducted by NASA, Apollo began in earnest after President John F. Kennedy's May 25, 1961 special address to a joint session of Congress declaring a national goal of "landing a man on the Moon" by the end of the decade."
Posted by GEEWUN on July 15th, 2010 @ 9:36pm CDT
Posted by Midnight_Fox on July 15th, 2010 @ 9:40pm CDT
GEEWUN wrote:"I'll tell it to you straight Optimus... SHOCKWAVE SHOT JFK!!!! (its a decepticon plot)"
WIN.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 15th, 2010 @ 10:00pm CDT
Energon Is My Drug wrote:Bouncy X wrote:wow....look at all the jumping to conclusions with time travel. lol
they already stated the story would be about the Transformers involvement with the space program so a flashback to the 60s would make sense since Kennedy's the one who started all that.
makes me wonder what people woulda said had TF2's opening been revealed like this. "ohhhh...so its about going back 1000s of years in time to alter our present"
Yeah, I hear ya, but just hearing people speculate about it makes me SOOO nervous!
Time paradoxes give me HEADACHES. And I'm supposed to be a freaking genius, dammit!
Posted by Starfall79 on July 15th, 2010 @ 11:39pm CDT
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0830373/
who looks to be perfect to play the role!
and just possibly
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0232800/
is an aged version of the same role??? he looks like he could pass for about 90 which would make sense if the person in question was alive today!! I think this would be cool to see in the new movie!!!
Posted by Rodimus2006 on July 15th, 2010 @ 11:51pm CDT
This thing with JFK could be just a flash back scene then we jump to present time with 2010.
On where the film will resume at I have no Idea but I have a gut feeling that it will begin with a big battle. Probably some characters getting killed off early in the film such as The Twins.
I say Optimus will open up the film with something about the humans and Space and such as what is going on with current events and there on-going war with the Decipticons also increasing hostilities between Autobots/Humans after the fallout of Revenge.
Expect another goverment douchebag to birate and hate on them like the last peckerneck did I hated that Guy I wanted to drop kick up side the head. I say this person will be just as bad.
I suspect alot of political involvement in TF 3 also a public outcry to have the Autobots removed from Earth.
Then something dramatic will happen and they change their minds cause they will discover they werent the ones who assasinated the humans and the Autobots will be cleared.
They join forces once more and hunt down the Decipticons & Shockwave and a huge final epic battle will take place hopefully not in the desert again but in a big Metropolitan City or new landscape.
On why the old Camaro is back I guess Bumblebee Downgrades since he is no longer Sam's Guardian and rejoins the Autobots then later on he re-unites with Sam cause of some incident or the Cons are after Sam again he Upgrades again to the new Current Camaro with the new Paint Kit and Body Job.
So far they are 8 Decipticons and 10 Autobots I guess more will be revealed in the following months we have seen little to none on the Decipticons I am hoping for new ones I know of one which is the Chevy Tahoe.
The 3 Nascar Vehicles has to be Cons but this dosent mean they are Stunticons this is a rumor started on the web this hasnt been confirmed nor has thier Faction & Names.
Not Confirmed
3 Nascar Vehicles
Blue Mercedes Bens
Chevy Tahoe
Silver Bolt however his Voice Actor is James Avory
Shockwave is Confirmed but his Alt. Mode hasnt been
Transformers 3 - Dark Space
Transformers 3 - The Race for Space
Transformers 3 - New Horizons
Transformers - The Final Frontier
Transformers 3 - The Human Conflict
Transformers 3 - Darkness Rising
Transformers 3 - Evil Within
Posted by starscreamprime1010 on July 16th, 2010 @ 1:01am CDT
Posted by mightwork on July 16th, 2010 @ 4:15am CDT
Posted by Terra Verticon on July 16th, 2010 @ 10:47am CDT
First, TF1 had a spot on the Witwicky family and Archibald's discovery of Megatron in 1897. Megatron was this shipped to Hoover Dam and Sector 7 convened in 1913 after the founding of the cube. Fast forward to present day TF1 and the Beagle 2 Rover transmitted 13 seconds from Mars of a bot.
So the picture of that bot and what is in the rumor do not relate.
TF2 goes back a few millenia because of the Fallen...fast forward to Megs landing on the moon where the Fallen and Starscream have operations to build an army, but lack energon.
TF3 rumor references Kennedy. First satellite is launched by the Soviets in 1957. In 1959, the first photgraphs of the moon were taken by Luna 3 of the then Soviet Space Program. Kennedy is in office from 1961-1963. First manned orbit of the moon occurs in 1968. First manned mission to land on the moon does not occur untl 1969. That being said between 59-68, it is highly probable that a photograph on the moon of a robot is highly probable which eludes to the refernce of the Kennedy Rumor. I'd say this is a set up for the movie. As for all the space/time comments, anything is possible...just look at the new cast...however, based on the data and photos we have seen thus far I am skeptical to say that it involves time. The Datsun is old and beat up...doesn't follow a 60s timeline...clothing on Shia and Rosie doesn't match a 60s timeframe, its more current...thus I'd say no right now and that the Datsun is merely a decoy as Bumblebee's original form was an old Camaro.
This should be made into a 2 part movie to be released 1 year apart so that we can have more Transformers as opposed to an ending and a long 15 year wait until another more awesome movie is developed and made.
Terra Verticon
Posted by rpetras on July 16th, 2010 @ 11:57am CDT
Who knows?!?!?!?
Posted by Starfall79 on July 16th, 2010 @ 6:10pm CDT
but with the article that popped up and the actor's page at imdb listing Brent Stimley as "president" it lends credence to this theory considering he played the same president in the watchmen movie, and also we have Jack Donner playing "jack" and this guy looks to be in his 90's so i think he could pass for the role of Jack in modern day!
so heres a possible run down we start out the movie its 196X and the president is handed the info about problems on the moon in response his death is faked and he takes of to head up a super secret organization to deal with this threat, hmmm maybe even the first bold steps of Sector 7???
jump to now and modern times and we have simmons taking sam off to see the still living founder "jack" who holds vital top secret information that the autobots need to win this war!
remember simmons said he always wanted to be an astronaut and they made sure to point out the lunar lander and the space shuttle (sky linx??) during the Smithsonian sequence!!
it fits and if you throw in a little bit of "Megatron's master plan" i think it sounds very exciting!!
lets hope bay doesnt mess it up!!
Posted by Burn on July 16th, 2010 @ 6:39pm CDT
Rodimus2006 wrote:On why the old Camaro is back I guess Bumblebee Downgrades since he is no longer Sam's Guardian and rejoins the Autobots then later on he re-unites with Sam cause of some incident or the Cons are after Sam again he Upgrades again to the new Current Camaro with the new Paint Kit and Body Job.
The old Camaro is back? Since when?
I know i've seen the pics of a old Datsun with Bumblbee styled paint work, and I figure that's because of Sam's new boss (Patrick Dempsey who was seen in the pics) and Sam having a modern Camaro would be hard to explain to a boss. Where did a kid from a middle class family get the money for such a car? Hence the change for BB.
Of course once it's all out in the open he goes back to modern Camaro.
Posted by Prime Riblet on July 17th, 2010 @ 2:20am CDT
Edit: It is possible, but not realistic-we are not small or quick enough to make through existing wormholes, and the ones we could (maybe?) create would allow for a paradox....which would actually disrupt the bridge itself.
Posted by Dead Metal on July 17th, 2010 @ 9:49am CDT
Did the past two movies travel through time because they had scenes that took place in the past? NO.
That said this rumour is pretty interesting.
Posted by Treadswitch on July 17th, 2010 @ 6:59pm CDT
Burn wrote:Rodimus2006 wrote:On why the old Camaro is back I guess Bumblebee Downgrades since he is no longer Sam's Guardian and rejoins the Autobots then later on he re-unites with Sam cause of some incident or the Cons are after Sam again he Upgrades again to the new Current Camaro with the new Paint Kit and Body Job.
The old Camaro is back? Since when?
I know i've seen the pics of a old Datsun with Bumblbee styled paint work, and I figure that's because of Sam's new boss (Patrick Dempsey who was seen in the pics) and Sam having a modern Camaro would be hard to explain to a boss. Where did a kid from a middle class family get the money for such a car? Hence the change for BB.
Of course once it's all out in the open he goes back to modern Camaro.
Patrick Dempsy is playing Rosie huntington-Whitely's boss. John Malkovich is playing Shia's boss. My explanation for the Datsun is this: Sam, who has just met Rosie, intends to pull his "need a ride?" move (considering he has a very nice car) except when he gets to his car it isn't a modified camaro, its a crappy datsun. Bumblebee is playing a trick on sam because he obviously is still attached to Mikeala. I think the datsun is only there for comedic purposes.
Posted by Burn on July 17th, 2010 @ 8:37pm CDT
Treadswitch wrote:Burn wrote:Rodimus2006 wrote:On why the old Camaro is back I guess Bumblebee Downgrades since he is no longer Sam's Guardian and rejoins the Autobots then later on he re-unites with Sam cause of some incident or the Cons are after Sam again he Upgrades again to the new Current Camaro with the new Paint Kit and Body Job.
The old Camaro is back? Since when?
I know i've seen the pics of a old Datsun with Bumblbee styled paint work, and I figure that's because of Sam's new boss (Patrick Dempsey who was seen in the pics) and Sam having a modern Camaro would be hard to explain to a boss. Where did a kid from a middle class family get the money for such a car? Hence the change for BB.
Of course once it's all out in the open he goes back to modern Camaro.
Patrick Dempsy is playing Rosie huntington-Whitely's boss. John Malkovich is playing Shia's boss. My explanation for the Datsun is this: Sam, who has just met Rosie, intends to pull his "need a ride?" move (considering he has a very nice car) except when he gets to his car it isn't a modified camaro, its a crappy datsun. Bumblebee is playing a trick on sam because he obviously is still attached to Mikeala. I think the datsun is only there for comedic purposes.
eh, different bosses, but I still like my theory.