TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image

TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image

Friday, July 15th, 2011 8:33am CDT

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As many of you have been speculating, it appears that TFC Toy's Hercules figures will feature a combining gun gimmick. Your fellow Seibertronian, Dread_Wing, has posted a concept sketch from the weibo page of jeffyzhong revealing how the individual guns combine and the full combined mode. The image has been mirrored below.


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Credit(s): Dread_Wing


This article was last modified on Friday, July 15th, 2011 8:45am CDT

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Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259593)
Posted by Counterpunch on July 15th, 2011 @ 8:59am CDT
Hey,

TFC...

No one cares until you show us final pics of all six figures and have some guaranteed orders up for them. Get a clue.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259599)
Posted by NamelessOne on July 15th, 2011 @ 9:13am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Hey,

TFC...

No one cares until you show us final pics of all six figures and have some guaranteed orders up for them. Get a clue.


Agreed 100%.

The fact that they keep throwing us breadcrumbs (I actually misread the title, and ignored the 'weapons' part of the 'combined weapons mode' - thought we might see the actual gestalt) makes me think that the latter parts of the set are still in development, and there isn't a fully detailed render of the later ones in the set in existence at this time.

Any business would have risen to Maketoy's bait by showing their full version by now, so I'm calling shenanigans on TFC on this one.

Yeah, Maketoys' version has the parts blurred out for the moment, but the combined mode is what I'm getting it for, and that looks great so far. Scale with the FP combiner upgrades is a further bonus, so I'm still going for that over this.

As an additional aside, the plastic on Engraver looks cheap and stress-prone (kind of like the Xovergen Prime that made it out a while back) - I'm gonna wait and review when TFC are at least 4 or 5 figs deep in this before I get on board.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259612)
Posted by Down_Shift on July 15th, 2011 @ 9:40am CDT
I'm Really digging the combination rifle gimmick.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259613)
Posted by Andrius on July 15th, 2011 @ 9:41am CDT
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That's swell, TFClub. Now sell us a finished and complete product for <$400 without your typical QC issues and we'll talk.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259629)
Posted by zodconvoy on July 15th, 2011 @ 10:31am CDT
It's a nice gun, don't get me wrong. But the gauntlet was thrown an this is all they brought to the table?

Ironically, this is like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259636)
Posted by El Duque on July 15th, 2011 @ 10:44am CDT
zodconvoy wrote:It's a nice gun, don't get me wrong. But the gauntlet was thrown an this is all they brought to the table?

Ironically, this is like bringing a knife to a gun fight.


Be to fair, I don't think this is any kind of response really. This was pulled off of who I assume is probably a TFC designer's personal weibo page, it wasn't even on TFC's weibo page. I agree they do need to get some images of Bonecrusher and Mixmaster out ASAP.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259641)
Posted by Requiem Prime on July 15th, 2011 @ 10:52am CDT
I'm not going to say I don't care, because it is a cool bullet point. It's just a cool bullet point that should have come months ago.

But more importantly: TFClub, the drip feed of information is only an easy way to build excitement when you're the only game in town. When you have to directly share the spotlight it becomes a delicate game of keeping the playing field level between your pros and cons and theirs.

Have you noticed Maketoys hasn't even announced a time frame or ballpark price? They managed to get people that excited over the accuracy and pushed keeping it in scale as a plus. And what have you done to level off?

Your price was always a tough sell. But never showing a complete set (read: never confirming you're committed to finishing) is just shooting yourself in the foot.

Show us the dang completed bot.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259645)
Posted by robofreak on July 15th, 2011 @ 10:56am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Hey,

TFC...

No one cares until you show us final pics of all six figures and have some guaranteed orders up for them. Get a clue.


And this is why I'm putting my money towards the Make Toys version.

I really thought TFC would have scrambled and posted pics of all 6 figures after Make Toys released images of a COMPLETE combiner.

Instead, we're still getting snippets of the thing. All this will do is hurt TFC in the long run.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259647)
Posted by kirbenvost on July 15th, 2011 @ 10:57am CDT
Well, that is a pretty sweet combining gun. But yeah, not enough to make me want this set any more.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259652)
Posted by Axalon_Prime on July 15th, 2011 @ 11:03am CDT
I agree with not showing all six and a combined for, but I'm guesing that they need the income from the first few figures to pay for the development of the rest. Also, I hope this doesn't turn out like these Godzilla statues I had been picking up a few years ago. The first in the series was Godzilla, and it was supposed to be a 9 peice set with interlocking bases that would have all the monsters from Destroy All Monsters. They never got past the second one, King Ghidorah. If I chunk down cash for this first figure and it's crap and they finish the series, I do'nt have to get them all. If I get the first one and it's great, and then they don't finish the series, then I'll be ticked.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259671)
Posted by Blackstreak on July 15th, 2011 @ 11:26am CDT
The weapon combining thing freaking rocks!
:KREMZEEK:
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259766)
Posted by alternator77 on July 15th, 2011 @ 2:05pm CDT
not to take tfc's side nut its alot easier to make a 3d render and release it for all to see than to actually make the figure (materials,molds,etc..) so i say give it a little time.
also just maketoys had their stuff shown with fp help doesnt automatically = high quality besides with all the other stuff theyve announced it may be a very long time before we see anything.

just a thought >:oP
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259771)
Posted by Lord Raze on July 15th, 2011 @ 2:10pm CDT
I think the release schedule looks a little disappointing. I was kind of hoping to be able to build Devastator up piece by piece like recreating the scenes from the comics of Devastator under construction. But if I got the release schedule correct it doesn't look possible until the 3rd or 4th figures are released.
Still waiting to pre-order though.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259850)
Posted by Stormrider on July 15th, 2011 @ 4:42pm CDT
Too little and a lot too late.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259861)
Posted by Sodan-1 on July 15th, 2011 @ 5:03pm CDT
YAY! I think those that called this one deserve a cookie! While it's cool that they do combine, I can't say it looks particularly amazing. Maybe it'll look better in Hercules' hand.

As for TFClub not rising to MakeToy's challenge: I think it's all a load of crap. It seems like TFClub and MakeToy are just doing their own thing at their own pace and its the fans that are trying to turn it into a fight.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259863)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on July 15th, 2011 @ 5:03pm CDT
It makes me care... but only a little. I'm still committed, but a bit of that is because MT hasn't released any preorder yet.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259898)
Posted by El Duque on July 15th, 2011 @ 6:07pm CDT
Apparently there's a big toy show in Guangzhou on 07/21 and TFC will be there. Cross your fingers for news on Mixmaster and Bonecrusher.

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Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1259907)
Posted by Dread_Wing on July 15th, 2011 @ 6:17pm CDT
I hope you are right El Duque! It would be wonderful to see a complete Hercules. I am anxious on whether or not there will be a purple chest wing. Of course they could go without for the IDW look, but including it as an option that the collector could use or not depending on their tastes would be nice.
Otherwise I guess the only option would be to hope that another 3rd party group makes one as an add on. Joy, 3rd party upgrade for 3rd party transformers...
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1260123)
Posted by Convotron on July 16th, 2011 @ 1:37am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Hey,

TFC...

No one cares until you show us final pics of all six figures and have some guaranteed orders up for them. Get a clue.


I care.

NaM3L3sS wrote:Any business would have risen to Maketoy's bait by showing their full version by now, so I'm calling shenanigans on TFC on this one.


You're assuming that these 3rd party companies are competing against each other.

Sodan-1 wrote:As for TFClub not rising to MakeToy's challenge: I think it's all a load of crap. It seems like TFClub and MakeToy are just doing their own thing at their own pace and its the fans that are trying to turn it into a fight.


I agree with Sodan-1. I find it ridiculous that people are thinking that these companies have any interest in competing against each other. It wouldn't benefit any one 3rd party product company to dominate the market. Considering that it's a niche market and that it's undoubtedly being watched closely by Hasbro and TakaraTomy, I'm sure TFC and MakeToy are only concerned with doing the best work they can to bring fan-centric creations to the public while they are able to. Why would companies who are seemingly motivated by their own fandom of Transformers be pre-occupied with going head to head with other companies who have the same intent?

"Hercules" and "Build" are two different designs with different portions of consumers that they're going to appeal to. Hercules is a larger scaled combiner with a different aesthetic and presumably more expensive than Build. If both products were of the same scale and possessed the same aesthetic, then it could be reasonably claimed that they'd vie for the same sales.

We, as fans of Transformers, should be thankful that we are not only receiving the opportunity for one but two "idealized" versions of Devastator that we are not likely to see from Hasbro/TakaraTomy any time soon. Instead, we have the usual cynicism and non-productive posts that aim to tear down something. If people are going to bitch and moan about how bad Hasbro/TakaraTomy's various combiner lines have been, they shouldn't bitch and moan about independent companies doing their best to bring better combiner products to the market.

Whoever, here or elsewhere on other discussion boards, are saying that they doubt TFC will complete the Hercules set and are jumping ship to MakeToys' product instead...do you not see that lack of support will make your speculation reality? The Hercules project is ambitious. It proposes to produce several large Deluxe/small Voyager class sized figures that combine. I'm sure that TFC is depending on some of the revenue from sales of the first few figures to help finalize production on the rest of the figures.

I'm supporting both companies by purchasing their products. I, for one, am grateful for the chance to possess two variations of the Devastator design that Hasbro/TakaraTomy would never consider producing. Even if one or both combiner projects don't get completed, I can say I did my part in supporting products meant for fans.
Re: TFC Toy's Project Hercules Combined Weapons Image (1260258)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on July 16th, 2011 @ 10:50am CDT
Convotron, I think for some reason you've confused competing with ACTIVELY competing. The very fact that these 2 companies are in the same niche market and are producing similar products(regardless of aesthetic or whether it's intentional) not working together on a single product means they are competing for consumer dollars.

They just aren't being active about it(like Apple and Microsoft with Apple's style of commercials or showing that they're striving to produce one before the other has theirs on the market), at least not publically.

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