TFSS 5.0 order period extended until Friday

Phew. Thanks, that helps a little.

Read the prose so toxitron is a reception and put an Autobots symbol on him in order to gain access to autobot bases. Pretty cool idea.

the @The_TF_Club twitter page put up a new image suggesting members of sub 5.0 are meant to combine with Alpha Bravo and Offroad. wonder what this amalgamation of bots and cons will be named

https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/ ... 9288154112

grimdragon2001 wrote:the @The_TF_Club twitter page put up a new image suggesting members of sub 5.0 are meant to combine with Alpha Bravo and Offroad. wonder what this amalgamation of bots and cons will be named

https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/ ... 9288154112

Its name is Wreckage.

Alpha Bravo and Offroad are included in the group on the off chance that someone is getting the TFSS 5.0 but didn't get the 4.0 with Impactor and the mystery figure to complete the intended final combination for Wreckage, giving those who missed out another option with two retail figures that they might already own.

Sabrblade wrote:Its name is Wreckage.

Alpha Bravo and Offroad are included in the group on the off chance that someone is getting the TFSS 5.0 but didn't get the 4.0 with Impactor and the mystery figure to complete the intended final combination for Wreckage, giving those who missed out another option with two retail figures that they might already own.

ahh i see, well i guess that kind of kills my hope that the mystery figure would have been Eagleeye from Armada Starscream. too bad, really wanted to finish Serpent O.R.'s unit

Sabrblade wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:the @The_TF_Club twitter page put up a new image suggesting members of sub 5.0 are meant to combine with Alpha Bravo and Offroad. wonder what this amalgamation of bots and cons will be named

https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/ ... 9288154112

Its name is Wreckage.

Alpha Bravo and Offroad are included in the group on the off chance that someone is getting the TFSS 5.0 but didn't get the 4.0 with Impactor and the mystery figure to complete the intended final combination for Wreckage, giving those who missed out another option with two retail figures that they might already own.

While I certainly appreciate options, I don't see how that would work, since Impactor is 4.0 while Counterpunch and Toxitron are 5.0....

G.B. Blackrock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:the @The_TF_Club twitter page put up a new image suggesting members of sub 5.0 are meant to combine with Alpha Bravo and Offroad. wonder what this amalgamation of bots and cons will be named

https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/ ... 9288154112

Its name is Wreckage.

Alpha Bravo and Offroad are included in the group on the off chance that someone is getting the TFSS 5.0 but didn't get the 4.0 with Impactor and the mystery figure to complete the intended final combination for Wreckage, giving those who missed out another option with two retail figures that they might already own.

While I certainly appreciate options, I don't see how that would work, since Impactor is 4.0 while Counterpunch and Toxitron are 5.0....

If someone gets 5.0 but not 4.0, then they'd be missing Impactor and the 4.0 mystery figure. AB and Offroad's inclusion allows any 5.0 consumers to use them in place of the two missing 4.0 limbs.

Sabrblade wrote:

G.B. Blackrock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:the @The_TF_Club twitter page put up a new image suggesting members of sub 5.0 are meant to combine with Alpha Bravo and Offroad. wonder what this amalgamation of bots and cons will be named

https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/ ... 9288154112

Its name is Wreckage.

Alpha Bravo and Offroad are included in the group on the off chance that someone is getting the TFSS 5.0 but didn't get the 4.0 with Impactor and the mystery figure to complete the intended final combination for Wreckage, giving those who missed out another option with two retail figures that they might already own.

While I certainly appreciate options, I don't see how that would work, since Impactor is 4.0 while Counterpunch and Toxitron are 5.0....

If someone gets 5.0 but not 4.0, then they'd be missing Impactor and the 4.0 mystery figure. AB and Offroad's inclusion allows any 5.0 consumers to use them in place of the two missing 4.0 limbs.

Plus, what combiner wouldn't want a psychotic axe-murderer and a god included in their gestalt

Sabrblade wrote:

G.B. Blackrock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:the @The_TF_Club twitter page put up a new image suggesting members of sub 5.0 are meant to combine with Alpha Bravo and Offroad. wonder what this amalgamation of bots and cons will be named

https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/ ... 9288154112

Its name is Wreckage.

Alpha Bravo and Offroad are included in the group on the off chance that someone is getting the TFSS 5.0 but didn't get the 4.0 with Impactor and the mystery figure to complete the intended final combination for Wreckage, giving those who missed out another option with two retail figures that they might already own.

While I certainly appreciate options, I don't see how that would work, since Impactor is 4.0 while Counterpunch and Toxitron are 5.0....

If someone gets 5.0 but not 4.0, then they'd be missing Impactor and the 4.0 mystery figure. AB and Offroad's inclusion allows any 5.0 consumers to use them in place of the two missing 4.0 limbs.

I get that, but that would still be a combination that, apparently, would never appear in the fiction. Why not use any other two CW figs lying around?

G.B. Blackrock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

G.B. Blackrock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:the @The_TF_Club twitter page put up a new image suggesting members of sub 5.0 are meant to combine with Alpha Bravo and Offroad. wonder what this amalgamation of bots and cons will be named

https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/ ... 9288154112

Its name is Wreckage.

Alpha Bravo and Offroad are included in the group on the off chance that someone is getting the TFSS 5.0 but didn't get the 4.0 with Impactor and the mystery figure to complete the intended final combination for Wreckage, giving those who missed out another option with two retail figures that they might already own.

While I certainly appreciate options, I don't see how that would work, since Impactor is 4.0 while Counterpunch and Toxitron are 5.0....

If someone gets 5.0 but not 4.0, then they'd be missing Impactor and the 4.0 mystery figure. AB and Offroad's inclusion allows any 5.0 consumers to use them in place of the two missing 4.0 limbs.

I get that, but that would still be a combination that, apparently, would never appear in the fiction. Why not use any other two CW figs lying around?

Because they're technically 'taken' by G1 nostalgia or lore or something like that - they're free agents, it's scramble-city, swap whom you want where you want them

G.B. Blackrock wrote:I get that, but that would still be a combination that, apparently, would never appear in the fiction. Why not use any other two CW figs lying around?

Because... Alpha Bravo and Offroad have the least amount of characterisation so far and thus are perfect for FunPub's clay modeling practices?

G.B. Blackrock wrote:I get that, but that would still be a combination that, apparently, would never appear in the fiction. Why not use any other two CW figs lying around?

Apologies if I'm misreading the chat, but Wreckage using AB and Offroad as limbs does appear in fiction - that's the focus of the short story, canonizing a Wreckage team that doesn't rely on the 4.0 subscription service.

RevTibe wrote:

G.B. Blackrock wrote:I get that, but that would still be a combination that, apparently, would never appear in the fiction. Why not use any other two CW figs lying around?

Apologies if I'm misreading the chat, but Wreckage using AB and Offroad as limbs does appear in fiction - that's the focus of the short story, canonizing a Wreckage team that doesn't rely on the 4.0 subscription service.

Booyah! *mic drop*

I'm actually really disappointed that they didn't make a new combined head for this guy.

RevTibe wrote:

G.B. Blackrock wrote:I get that, but that would still be a combination that, apparently, would never appear in the fiction. Why not use any other two CW figs lying around?

Apologies if I'm misreading the chat, but Wreckage using AB and Offroad as limbs does appear in fiction - that's the focus of the short story, canonizing a Wreckage team that doesn't rely on the 4.0 subscription service.

You're not misreading. I was simply miscounting. I wasn't thinking about taking Impactor OUT to make room for these two. Sorry about that.

steals_your_goats wrote:I'm actually really disappointed that they didn't make a new combined head for this guy.

We may just see one. Who knows what adding the last two intended members could do with his noggin.

And that is on par with regular CW practices btw. Only regular heads are switched out, but not Combiner heads. Toxitron's regular head is an unused Hasbro design, in case you didn't know.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I'm actually really disappointed that they didn't make a new combined head for this guy.

We may just see one. Who knows what adding the last two intended members could do with his noggin.

And that is on par with regular CW practices btw. Only regular heads are switched out, but not Combiner heads. Toxitron's regular head is an unused Hasbro design, in case you didn't know.

Hopefully the final product changes. And I'm aware of how the retail products work I was just hoping that since it's a club combiner that they would make a new head for him like they did for thunder mayhem.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I'm actually really disappointed that they didn't make a new combined head for this guy.

We may just see one. Who knows what adding the last two intended members could do with his noggin.

And that is on par with regular CW practices btw. Only regular heads are switched out, but not Combiner heads. Toxitron's regular head is an unused Hasbro design, in case you didn't know.

Granting that it *does* seem that this story is written specifically to give folks who bought only TFSS 5.0, but not 4.0, an option to create a canonical Wreckage at home, I think we can now accept as a foregone conclusion that no new combiner head is forthcoming.

gotta say, while it's not a new head, putting the Ultra Prime head on the Motormaster body is an interesting twist. I mean, they could have just left the Menasor head on there

Yeah, at first I was hoping they would put the Ultra Prime head on the Motormaster body, but when I learned that there hasn't been a previous case of a reshelled mold having swapped parts with the original mold, I retracted my hopes and resided myself to just expecting the Menasor head in green and purple.

Now that we see that they did manage to use the Ultra Prime head, that's incredible!

We are proud to bring to you today our latest Seibertron.com galleries, those being the club exclusive Nightbeat, Superlink SC-02 Hot Shot and SC-23 Hot Shot Fire! All 3 utilize the same energon Hot Shot mold that can powerlink to any other energon era figure. Take a gander at the gallery and let us know what you think!

Club Exclusives Nightbeat (189 images) - Deluxe Vehicles, Exclusives


















Superlink Hot Shot Fire (146 images) - Deluxe Vehicles














Superlink Hot Shot (125 images) - Deluxe Vehicles

Although this is considered a bad figure (mold-wise, not character-wise) I think it works well for Nightbeat.

Nice pictures! I had that Nightbeat. He looked alright on my shelf for a while but over time I grew tired of his awkwardness and his big old box kicking around. It was cool that he came with a comic though. Replaced him with the Generations one.

I didn't realize that the Japanese Super Link name was spelled as one word "Hotshot".

Though, notice the Japanese figures each have a different headsculpt from the Hasbro ones.

Don't know why people are hating on this mold, looks mighty fine to me

So this is what "club exclusivity" gets you? yikes

Does anyone know where these custom antenna came from? That helps the figure a lot. I'd love to get some if they are shapeways, etc.

TCC Nightbeat was a product of its time.

Eight years ago there was a lot more limited mold selection, the heads still were done by hand, and communication with the factory was almost nonexistent. So you ended up with Energon Hot Shot as one of the few car molds that were usable, a head sculpt that... well I actually still like (it's very Andy Wildman, which was its aim), and the factory ended up cutting the antennae off the head for clearance without contacting Fun Pub for alternatives.

With that in mind, it was a good figure at the time. I'm not sure how well its aged, but it's earned its place on my shelves and faces no risk of getting resold any time soon.

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Don't know why people are hating on this mold, looks mighty fine to me

It's a brick with barely any articulation. From 2004.

Nice pics, Seibertron! Energon Hot Shot is such an awesome mold!

Sabrblade wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Don't know why people are hating on this mold, looks mighty fine to me

It's a brick with barely any articulation. From 2004.

The 'Energon' repaint does make a good pair of pants for another figure though.

gothsaurus wrote:Does anyone know where these custom antenna came from? That helps the figure a lot. I'd love to get some if they are shapeways, etc.

Here we go, short story long ...

When Nightbeat came out, I was really bummed that he didn't have the antennae. At the time, you could go down to your local Walmart or other big box store and grab a G.I. Joe figure for around $7 give or take a couple of bucks, which I determined some figures came with guns that were the appropriate size for antennae for Nightbeat. If I recall correctly what I did 7 or 8 years ago was buy a 25th anniversary Wildbill. His guns (again if I recall correctly that it was a Wildbill), had some pegs on the side of the gun for some reason (maybe to plug into a holster on his legs or something), which I thought would be perfect to plug into Nightbeat's head if I drilled some holes into the side of his head. Because we were told that the antennae weren't put on from the factory due to "clearance" issues, I wanted the antennae to either be removable or to rotate so that they could stay on when he transformed. The holes were drilled just a tad too big (courtesy of US drill bits versus metric ... anyone know of a nice set of metric drill bits on Amazon?) so the antennae were too loose for what I had envisioned. Because I was bummed about the head and because it took me a little while to figure out a solution, I just never did his gallery at the time.

Fast forward a few years later: after transforming him a few times during the G1 Nightbeat and Generations Nightbeat galleries, I realized that there was more than enough clearance for the antennae during the transformation plus the guns were made of a soft plastic so they'd bend if needed. To fix the loose antennae, I just ended up supergluing the guns in place. He transforms just fine with the antennae permanently in place. It fixes the goofy head and turns a mediocre head into the proper head it should be.

Since I ended up gluing the guns in place (and snipped off the gun's handle), it probably doesn't matter which G.I. Joe's guns you use as long as you think they look like they'd be appropriate as antennas. You also probably don't need to actually drill any holes into the side of his head if you are gluing them to the sides of his head, but mine are probably more sturdy because they peg in plus are superglued. I imagine those store brand army guys that are at Toys R Us and/or Target would probably do the trick as well.

It's one of the few actual "customs" I've done and I'd say I was pretty happy with the end result.

Sabrblade wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Don't know why people are hating on this mold, looks mighty fine to me

It's a brick with barely any articulation. From 2004.

The Deluxe Energon Autobots suffered from the Powerlinx gimmick, which most of the time involved "flipping" the figure around and having the legs become the arms (Inferno and Tow-Line were exceptions, coincidentally they share the same design philosophy). Hot Shot suffered the most in that with no forward swinging hip joints, and limited shoulder joints.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Don't know why people are hating on this mold, looks mighty fine to me

It's a brick with barely any articulation. From 2004.

The Deluxe Energon Autobots suffered from the Powerlinx gimmick, which most of the time involved "flipping" the figure around and having the legs become the arms (Inferno and Tow-Line were exceptions, coincidentally they share the same design philosophy). Hot Shot suffered the most in that with no forward swinging hip joints, and limited shoulder joints.

So what if it does have barely any articulation?

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Don't know why people are hating on this mold, looks mighty fine to me

It's a brick with barely any articulation. From 2004.

The Deluxe Energon Autobots suffered from the Powerlinx gimmick, which most of the time involved "flipping" the figure around and having the legs become the arms (Inferno and Tow-Line were exceptions, coincidentally they share the same design philosophy). Hot Shot suffered the most in that with no forward swinging hip joints, and limited shoulder joints.

So what if it does have barely any articulation?

During a time when articulation was a long-established norm for TF figures? (barring an interruption with the Armada line's hindered articulation)

Not to mention his combined torso mode has even less articulation and no hands at all (only the ends of his altmode kibble with holes in them).

Compared to his wavemate Inferno, who by comparison was a fantastic figure, the Hot Shot mold had barely any real playability as an action figure, being more functional instead as a paperweight.

Sabrblade wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Don't know why people are hating on this mold, looks mighty fine to me

It's a brick with barely any articulation. From 2004.

The Deluxe Energon Autobots suffered from the Powerlinx gimmick, which most of the time involved "flipping" the figure around and having the legs become the arms (Inferno and Tow-Line were exceptions, coincidentally they share the same design philosophy). Hot Shot suffered the most in that with no forward swinging hip joints, and limited shoulder joints.

So what if it does have barely any articulation?

During a time when articulation was a long-established norm for TF figures? (barring an interruption with the Armada line's hindered articulation)

Not to mention his combined torso mode has even less articulation and no hands at all (only the ends of his altmode kibble with holes in them).

Compared to his wavemate Inferno, who by comparison was a fantastic figure, the Hot Shot mold had barely any real playability as an action figure, being more functional instead as a paperweight.

Well I don't think that.

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Don't know why people are hating on this mold, looks mighty fine to me

It's a brick with barely any articulation. From 2004.

The Deluxe Energon Autobots suffered from the Powerlinx gimmick, which most of the time involved "flipping" the figure around and having the legs become the arms (Inferno and Tow-Line were exceptions, coincidentally they share the same design philosophy). Hot Shot suffered the most in that with no forward swinging hip joints, and limited shoulder joints.

So what if it does have barely any articulation?

During a time when articulation was a long-established norm for TF figures? (barring an interruption with the Armada line's hindered articulation)

Not to mention his combined torso mode has even less articulation and no hands at all (only the ends of his altmode kibble with holes in them).

Compared to his wavemate Inferno, who by comparison was a fantastic figure, the Hot Shot mold had barely any real playability as an action figure, being more functional instead as a paperweight.

Well I don't think that.

Well, that's cool, just know, that most really dislike it with a passion; and they were only explaining to you why people didn't like it, answering your question.

Thanks for the info, I am hopefully going to attempt this on mine as well

Seibertron wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:Does anyone know where these custom antenna came from? That helps the figure a lot. I'd love to get some if they are shapeways, etc.

Here we go, short story long ...

When Nightbeat came out, I was really bummed that he didn't have the antennae. At the time, you could go down to your local Walmart or other big box store and grab a G.I. Joe figure for around $7 give or take a couple of bucks, which I determined some figures came with guns that were the appropriate size for antennae for Nightbeat. If I recall correctly what I did 7 or 8 years ago was buy a 25th anniversary Wildbill. His guns (again if I recall correctly that it was a Wildbill), had some pegs on the side of the gun for some reason (maybe to plug into a holster on his legs or something), which I thought would be perfect to plug into Nightbeat's head if I drilled some holes into the side of his head. Because we were told that the antennae weren't put on from the factory due to "clearance" issues, I wanted the antennae to either be removable or to rotate so that they could stay on when he transformed. The holes were drilled just a tad too big (courtesy of US drill bits versus metric ... anyone know of a nice set of metric drill bits on Amazon?) so the antennae were too loose for what I had envisioned. Because I was bummed about the head and because it took me a little while to figure out a solution, I just never did his gallery at the time.

Fast forward a few years later: after transforming him a few times during the G1 Nightbeat and Generations Nightbeat galleries, I realized that there was more than enough clearance for the antennae during the transformation plus the guns were made of a soft plastic so they'd bend if needed. To fix the loose antennae, I just ended up supergluing the guns in place. He transforms just fine with the antennae permanently in place. It fixes the goofy head and turns a mediocre head into the proper head it should be.

Since I ended up gluing the guns in place (and snipped off the gun's handle), it probably doesn't matter which G.I. Joe's guns you use as long as you think they look like they'd be appropriate as antennas. You also probably don't need to actually drill any holes into the side of his head if you are gluing them to the sides of his head, but mine are probably more sturdy because they peg in plus are superglued. I imagine those store brand army guys that are at Toys R Us and/or Target would probably do the trick as well.

It's one of the few actual "customs" I've done and I'd say I was pretty happy with the end result.

Finally RAMJET arrives and he is awesome! My last figure from the current TFCC so its bittersweet.

Wow. Wow. I just did a check online and found out that the 100% complete Pirate Brimstone and Pirate Hunter figures I got at Comicon for $60 is actually selling for up to $150. I am so never selling these.

Magazine arrived. Features a recap of Botcon 2016, an explanation of why the Unit-3 figure exists, and the comic features a Pretender Prime hint gorilla in a zoo, Pretender Megatron from the mysterious guy, and Ramjet teaming up with the Mayhem Attack Squad.

Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Tigertrack, we have a new reveal from the joint exclusive figures for the Transformers and G.I. Joe Collectors' Clubs, in addition to Hologram Megatron and Ratbat, as we have already seen through BotCon 2016. With no new figures on the Joe front other than previously seen Ninja Force Scarlett, Dr Sidney Biggles-Jones and Cobra Commander, we now know from the pages of the Joe magazine that Autobots Blackcat and Toaster will be joining the set, respectively repaints of Comic-Con exclusives Ravage and Blaster. Check out the images below!

OMG, Toaster has a toy!!!!!!! Glory day!!!!!!

Frakkin' Toaster! WOOHOO!!!

Having trouble remembering where that Ratbat/Megatron set will be released. Is that SDCC ... or club exclusive?

gothsaurus wrote:Having trouble remembering where that Ratbat/Megatron set will be released. Is that SDCC ... or club exclusive?

This is that set. Megatron and Ratbat come with all these G.I. Joe characters (and now Blackcat and Toaster as well), as a TCC/GIJCC Club Store exclusive.

Thanks so much for helping clear things up. Guess I'm in for the set, since I want Ratbat.

It's very cool to get an official Blackcat figure. I hope it will eventually usher in a G1 and Masterpiece release of the toy... as much of a long shot as that is.

gothsaurus wrote:It's very cool to get an official Blackcat figure. I hope it will eventually usher in a G1 and Masterpiece release of the toy... as much of a long shot as that is.

I wish the Club had been able to acquire either the MP or the Universe version of Ravage so as to give us a transformable version of Blackcat.

Though, the more I think about it, shouldn't Toaster's toy ought to be, well, a toaster?

It's really cool that a character as obscure as Blackcat is getting a toy, but I can't help but wonder if his being an immobile figure is a result of some sort of monkey's paw wish-gone-wrong.

(Considering that parts-count seems to be a notable factor in cost, I suppose it isn't surprising they went with a lovingly painted statuette.)

I only want that Megatron. Anyone wanna split a set?