The Director of Transformers ROTB says his Biggest Goal is to make you Care about the Robots
Thursday, May 11th, 2023 12:46PM CDT
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Here is the blurb concerning what the director hopes to accomplish with this film and you can read the entire interview from the Hollywood Reporter here.
I hope it’s not a cheesy answer, but I want people to be able to connect with the new Transformers that we’re creating. Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film. But, if anything, I just really want people to be able to emotionally connect with the Transformers that you know and the new [Transformers] that we’re bringing to the table. I’m not here to just create robots for you to say, “Yeah, that was cool. That was fun.” I want you to be like, “I really truly care about [Optimus] Primal. I really truly care about Airazor and these other characters,” because this is the foundation for what I would love the franchise to be going forward. And a lot of the stuff in this film is a huge setup for where the franchise can go, so I’m excited for people to check that out.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 11th, 2023 @ 12:55pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.
I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.
We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.
Sadly, you're probably right. Though at least this (and GotG3) would be the only movies I'd probably see currently.
Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2023 @ 1:05pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.
I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.
We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.
Sadly, you're probably right. Though at least this (and GotG3) would be the only movies I'd probably see currently.
With a 7 year old girl and a 5 year old boy, I'll probably be at the movies all through the coming weeks. We've got Little Mermaid, ROTB, The Flash, Elemental and Indiana Jones. All films I'm planning on watching. It's really packed, the films sudios should have left room for these movies to breathe.
Posted by DeathReviews on May 11th, 2023 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on May 11th, 2023 @ 1:23pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
Fixed your post for you.
I doubt we'll see those stereotypes with the new director. We didn't with the last movie.
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 11th, 2023 @ 1:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.
I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.
We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.
Sadly, you're probably right. Though at least this (and GotG3) would be the only movies I'd probably see currently.
With a 7 year old girl and a 5 year old boy, I'll probably be at the movies all through the coming weeks. We've got Little Mermaid, ROTB, The Flash, Elemental and Indiana Jones. All films I'm planning on watching. It's really packed, the films sudios should have left room for these movies to breathe.
Forgot about half those movies to be fair, but yeah I've got no desire to see them (despite Keaton being my favourite movie batman, if the film had been only him or him in a batman beyond esque flick, I'd seen it in a heart beat). Only film my kids wanted to see recently was super mario. Oh and the oldest wants to see RotB
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2023 @ 1:57pm CDT
Many has expressed disdain for Wheeljack's design being an Urkel-derived stereotype.First-Aid wrote:DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
Fixed your post for you.
I doubt we'll see those stereotypes with the new director. We didn't with the last movie.
Posted by Spider5800 on May 11th, 2023 @ 2:08pm CDT
It may still be successful, but I doubt it's going to be event movie successful.
That said, I'm more worried that this is going to end up like Bumblebee, where everyone who actually watches it agrees it was a pretty good film, but it also ends up kind of bombing because most people associate "Transformers movie" with "garbage" and avoid it.
Posted by First-Aid on May 11th, 2023 @ 2:08pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Many has expressed disdain for Wheeljack's design being an Urkel-derived stereotype.First-Aid wrote:DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
Fixed your post for you.
I doubt we'll see those stereotypes with the new director. We didn't with the last movie.
True. My thought is this: these bots can change their form at will. Why not the ability to change their appearances too? People get plastic surgery, tattoos/piercings, change hair colors, get new glasses, new clothing, etc. WHy not artificial life forms too? DO they have to have a reason? Maybe Wheeljack arrived to Earth, saw Urkel and enjoyed the show and decided to change his look up. We're so used to these guys looking the same over and over (which is part of my current complaints with the Generations line as they continue to recycle the same characters over and over but don't vary the designs) that when something gets changed up, it's startling. It's kind of like cosplaying but with the ability to physically alter the structure of your body.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2023 @ 2:12pm CDT
Can he also change his age? 'Cause he's gone from being a grownup in Bumblebee to a youngster in this movie.First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Many has expressed disdain for Wheeljack's design being an Urkel-derived stereotype.First-Aid wrote:DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
Fixed your post for you.
I doubt we'll see those stereotypes with the new director. We didn't with the last movie.
True. My thought is this: these bots can change their form at will. Why not the ability to change their appearances too? People get plastic surgery, tattoos/piercings, change hair colors, get new glasses, new clothing, etc. WHy not artificial life forms too? DO they have to have a reason? Maybe Wheeljack arrived to Earth, saw Urkel and enjoyed the show and decided to change his look up. We're so used to these guys looking the same over and over (which is part of my current complaints with the Generations line as they continue to recycle the same characters over and over but don't vary the designs) that when something gets changed up, it's startling. It's kind of like cosplaying but with the ability to physically alter the structure of your body.
Unless we're supposed to take that as a sign that this is a different Wheeljack and there are actually two 'bots with that name in the movies.
Posted by alphatron10 on May 11th, 2023 @ 2:47pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on May 11th, 2023 @ 2:59pm CDT
Posted by griftimus prime on May 11th, 2023 @ 3:01pm CDT
Posted by 84everfan on May 11th, 2023 @ 3:40pm CDT
Not that hard to manage.
Posted by TulioDude on May 11th, 2023 @ 5:41pm CDT
The aproach could be seens to be reference what people liked(the 2007 movie for example) and ignoring some of the parts that are more specific to a individual film(like The Last Knight retcons).
It's like how the original Marvel comics, the cartoon and the toy bios didn't always match, but are still considered the same franchise.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 11th, 2023 @ 6:21pm CDT
To the director and writers it is. Transformers are secondary. Hence my disappointment but not surprise.griftimus prime wrote:i thought the most important thing was making it clear to people that this movie is a black and latino story?
Posted by 84everfan on May 11th, 2023 @ 7:05pm CDT
[/quote]Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The fuck is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 11th, 2023 @ 9:24pm CDT
84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
This is just corporate word-salad from someone who clearly either don't pay attention nor care about what they're making.
Any Transformers fans, either hardcore or casual, can see that the Transformers were very "human" if not, completely "human" since Day One.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2023 @ 10:52pm CDT
Read the quote again. It's not talking about the movie's robot characters.-Kanrabat- wrote:84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
This is just corporate word-salad from someone who clearly either don't pay attention nor care about what they're making.
Any Transformers fans, either hardcore or casual, can see that the Transformers were very "human" if not, completely "human" since Day One.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 11th, 2023 @ 11:21pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Read the quote again. It's not talking about the movie's robot characters.-Kanrabat- wrote:84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
This is just corporate word-salad from someone who clearly either don't pay attention nor care about what they're making.
Any Transformers fans, either hardcore or casual, can see that the Transformers were very "human" if not, completely "human" since Day One.
Oh dear...
I should stop assuming people are generally logical and intelligent. My brain tuned out the WTF part.
So he wants the humains to be more... humain? What?
Is he admitting that he's written mindless NPCs this whole time?

Posted by william-james88 on May 12th, 2023 @ 12:13am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Read the quote again. It's not talking about the movie's robot characters.-Kanrabat- wrote:84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
This is just corporate word-salad from someone who clearly either don't pay attention nor care about what they're making.
Any Transformers fans, either hardcore or casual, can see that the Transformers were very "human" if not, completely "human" since Day One.
Oh dear...
I should stop assuming people are generally logical and intelligent. My brain tuned out the WTF part.
So he wants the humains to be more... humain? What?
Is he admitting that he's written mindless NPCs this whole time?
No, he's saying the main human characters are black and latino, unlike before when they were always white. He's a black guy and says that the human characters look like him more than ever.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2023 @ 5:17am CDT
william-james88 wrote:No, he's saying the main human characters are black and latino, unlike before when they were always white. He's a black guy and says that the human characters look like him more than ever.
Holy shiiiiiiiit.
That director is not even aware of his own disgusting racism and narcissism.

Seriously, he straight up admit that he doesn't see white characters as human. That's pretty fukked-up.
Anyone who can't relate to a main character just because of their race or gender is seriously bigoted. If one wants to see "themselves" as the main character in a story, then they should just play a video game that allows you to create your own Character.
Jesus.
Posted by Brokebot on May 12th, 2023 @ 6:29am CDT
84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
Look like "us" rather than "them." Pretty damn racist statement had it come out of the mouth of a white dude, but stunning and brave from a POC. I guess everyone who shares the same skin color look the same to this guy? If you can't relate to a character unless he or she is your doppelganger, then that's your problem, not anyone else's. I don't recall anyone that looked anything like me in any of the Bayverse mess except maybe that fatass throwaway Hound, but since I'm not green, I guess I should be totally triggered.
Someone needs to tell this knucklehead to stop talking into microphones.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on May 12th, 2023 @ 7:56am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 12th, 2023 @ 9:37am CDT
There's bot a lot of excitement and doubt when it comes to this film. The excitement comes from the simple fact that this films appears to have the robots be the main characters in their movie for once, with only a couple of humans tagging along. At the same time, doubt comes from June being a stacked month for movie releases. Rise of the Beasts is being released right between The Little Mermaid's release week-end and the week-end that has both The Flash and Elemental, all family films. We'll see which of these films gets the bigger impact.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2023 @ 10:11am CDT
Hydrargyrus wrote:What in the world? Man’s just tryna say that it’s easier to relate to a character that looks like you, because race/ethnicity tends to run a little more than skin-deep. That shouldn’t be controversial.
THAT is the main problem. If you can only relate to a character that "look like you", you have a serious problem.
I've seem movies since ever.
I was Ripley fighting Aliens.
I was Axel Foley solving crimes in Miami.
I was Rambo, mowing down enemies.
I was a German Shepherd trying to find his way home.
I was a freaking TOASTER having a trippy journey.
If you want to "look at you", you narcissist, just get a mirror.
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 12th, 2023 @ 10:22am CDT
Posted by Brokebot on May 12th, 2023 @ 10:40am CDT
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:G1 fans (most of whom don't like these movies, anyway) are aging out of being regular theatre moviegoers . . .
We're not ageing out. We just aren't impressed by CGI explosion porn and shallow, ham-fisted identity politics, which is what this is shaping up to be.
We grew up watching movies that redefined genres. Star Wars. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Alien. John Carpenter's The Thing. The Terminator. Not the Disney-fied stripmined versions or "reimagined for modern audiences" nonsense they're trying to sell us now. We're not too old to go to the theater for a good movie. We're smart enough to spot a shit-show when we see it and not waste our money on it. Nursing homes are expensive.

Posted by Sabrblade on May 12th, 2023 @ 10:49am CDT
Just like the Bay movies.Brokebot wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:G1 fans (most of whom don't like these movies, anyway) are aging out of being regular theatre moviegoers . . .
We're not ageing out. We just aren't impressed by CGI explosion porn and shallow, ham-fisted identity politics, which is what this is shaping up to be.

Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 12th, 2023 @ 10:56am CDT
Brokebot wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:G1 fans (most of whom don't like these movies, anyway) are aging out of being regular theatre moviegoers . . .
We're not ageing out. We just aren't impressed by CGI explosion porn and shallow, ham-fisted identity politics, which is what this is shaping up to be.
We grew up watching movies that redefined genres. Star Wars. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Alien. John Carpenter's The Thing. The Terminator. Not the Disney-fied stripmined versions or "reimagined for modern audiences" nonsense they're trying to sell us now. We're not too old to go to the theater for a good movie. We're smart enough to spot a shit-show when we see it and not waste our money on it. Nursing homes are expensive.
You can take that stance if you like, but statistically people DO age-out of the movie theatre experience by and large. How many movies does you grandmother and great-grandmother go to see per year? Way less than when she was 20. I love all those movies you mentioned (I'm pushing 40 myself), and completely agree with you about being unimpressed by CGI spectacle. One of my favourite moviegoing experiences of the past several years was walking into a movie theatre in the middle of the day and watching The Peanut Butter Falcon.
EDIT: Representation in media is not a bad thing. White people are not the only race on earth. Get used to it.
Posted by Brokebot on May 12th, 2023 @ 11:11am CDT
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Representation in media is not a bad thing. White people are not the only race on earth. Get used to it.
I never said it was, so stop trying to paint me as a racist. But when the skin color, gender identity, or sexual orientation of the cast is more important than the quality of the story, your movie will fail and deservedly so.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2023 @ 11:14am CDT
Brokebot wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Representation in media is not a bad thing. White people are not the only race on earth. Get used to it.
I never said it was, so stop trying to paint me as a racist. But when the skin color, gender identity, or sexual orientation of the cast is more important than the quality of the story, your movie will fail and deservedly so.
Amen.

Posted by Sabrblade on May 12th, 2023 @ 11:20am CDT
I don't recall the director saying it's "more" important than all else. Just that it's one aspect of the movie that's important to him.Brokebot wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Representation in media is not a bad thing. White people are not the only race on earth. Get used to it.
I never said it was, so stop trying to paint me as a racist. But when the skin color, gender identity, or sexual orientation of the cast is more important than the quality of the story, your movie will fail and deservedly so.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 12th, 2023 @ 11:45am CDT
Go back to page 1 and read about his first interview. He literally stated that this movie was "made for black and brown people." I called it out back then, and of course was labeled a racist by a couple narrow minded idiots here.Sabrblade wrote:I don't recall the director saying it's "more" important than all else. Just that it's one aspect of the movie that's important to him.Brokebot wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Representation in media is not a bad thing. White people are not the only race on earth. Get used to it.
I never said it was, so stop trying to paint me as a racist. But when the skin color, gender identity, or sexual orientation of the cast is more important than the quality of the story, your movie will fail and deservedly so.
Regardless, that's not even a problem for me, there were non-whites in all the other movies and it wasn't a problem. My problem is that yet again the Transformers story gets short-changed.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 12th, 2023 @ 12:32pm CDT
I am done with the lot of you. No wonder we don't have much good conversation on here, when this is where we keep coming back to.
I will make this simple: any additional "race" posts that are not DIRECTLY related to a NEW ARTICLE that is focus on this topic will be deleted and the user warned.
And for 3 of you, you are on the cusp of being banned thanks to warning counts and borderline trolling posts.
We are done here.
Posted by DeathReviews on May 12th, 2023 @ 1:12pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Brokebot wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Representation in media is not a bad thing. White people are not the only race on earth. Get used to it.
I never said it was, so stop trying to paint me as a racist. But when the skin color, gender identity, or sexual orientation of the cast is more important than the quality of the story, your movie will fail and deservedly so.
Amen.
And people should be allowed to discuss it. If a hollywood studio makes a diversity obsessed cringe-fest and calls it a movie (or a TV show), people should be free to call it out for what it is. Deciding that you don't like certain truths doesn't make them UN-true, nor unnoticed by the population. Forcing silence isn't creating 'unity', it's applying control - and wandering dangerously close to "peace through tyranny" (to loop it back to Tranformers-talk).
That said? The movie will probably make lots of money - after all, you never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator...
Posted by Brokebot on May 12th, 2023 @ 1:51pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:That said? The movie will probably make lots of money - after all, you never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator...
It'll make money, but will it make enough to get into the black. This has a $200 million production budget. Add to that marketing, distribution, and the theater's cut, they'll have to clear $500 million or more to get out of the red.
Posted by william-james88 on May 12th, 2023 @ 2:48pm CDT
Brokebot wrote:DeathReviews wrote:That said? The movie will probably make lots of money - after all, you never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator...
It'll make money, but will it make enough to get into the black. This has a $200 million production budget. Add to that marketing, distribution, and the theater's cut, they'll have to clear $500 million or more to get out of the red.
Yeah, it needs at least $500 M, but the good news is that it doesn't need much more than that either. Unlike the other big films, like Indy, Little Mermaid, Elemental and even Spider-verse, the film is very merchandise/licensing heavy. So any marketing push will contribute to sale of all things Transformers, not just the movie. I think we saw from past stats that Hasbro doubles in revenu from toy sales during movie years. If the film can prosper as a paid commercial for more consumer products, then that can be enough to justify making more of them.
The Flash movie is in the same boat as that where it's also very licensing and merchandise heavy.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2023 @ 3:12pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Brokebot wrote:DeathReviews wrote:That said? The movie will probably make lots of money - after all, you never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator...
It'll make money, but will it make enough to get into the black. This has a $200 million production budget. Add to that marketing, distribution, and the theater's cut, they'll have to clear $500 million or more to get out of the red.
Yeah, it needs at least $500 M, but the good news is that it doesn't need much more than that either. Unlike the other big films, like Indy, Little Mermaid, Elemental and even Spider-verse, the film is very merchandise/licensing heavy. So any marketing push will contribute to sale of all things Transformers, not just the movie. I think we saw from past stats that Hasbro doubles in revenu from toy sales during movie years. If the film can prosper as a paid commercial for more consumer products, then that can be enough to justify making more of them.
The Flash movie is in the same boat as that where it's also very licensing and merchandise heavy.
Even the worst movies like AoE and TLK broke records.
So for a Transformers movie to fail, it should be done on purpose.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 12th, 2023 @ 3:19pm CDT
Posted by Brokebot on May 12th, 2023 @ 3:31pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Even the worst movies like AoE and TLK broke records.
So for a Transformers movie to fail, it should be done on purpose.
TLK was such a turd burger that it's been blamed for affecting Bumblebee, which only cleared $468M against a budget of $130M.
I'm thinking that the Beasties will have a good opening weekend, then will have a second week nosedive. Hasbro may profit from it, but the movie itself will be a box office failure or barely profit.

Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2023 @ 3:33pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 12th, 2023 @ 5:28pm CDT
Isn't it amazing that it's considered a failure because it didn't break a billion dollars during its theatrical run? Did DoTM and AoE (the 2 billionaires) spoil Hasbro's accountants that much?-Kanrabat- wrote:Oh yeah, I remember that TLK did "fail" thus the Bee Movie "reboot".
Also, I don't have the link but I just read that Mark Wahlberg asked for and got a $40 million salary for TLK after AoE made that billion.
Posted by william-james88 on May 12th, 2023 @ 6:26pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Isn't it amazing that it's considered a failure because it didn't break a billion dollars during its theatrical run? Did DoTM and AoE (the 2 billionaires) spoil Hasbro's accountants that much?-Kanrabat- wrote:Oh yeah, I remember that TLK did "fail" thus the Bee Movie "reboot".
Also, I don't have the link but I just read that Mark Wahlberg asked for and got a $40 million salary for TLK after AoE made that billion.
TLK is considered a failure because it lost money, only TF movie to do so.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 12th, 2023 @ 6:53pm CDT
Seriously? Didn't it make close to a billion? The production costs couldn't be that high.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Isn't it amazing that it's considered a failure because it didn't break a billion dollars during its theatrical run? Did DoTM and AoE (the 2 billionaires) spoil Hasbro's accountants that much?-Kanrabat- wrote:Oh yeah, I remember that TLK did "fail" thus the Bee Movie "reboot".
Also, I don't have the link but I just read that Mark Wahlberg asked for and got a $40 million salary for TLK after AoE made that billion.
TLK is considered a failure because it lost money, only TF movie to do so.
Posted by Brokebot on May 12th, 2023 @ 7:13pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Seriously? Didn't it make close to a billion? The production costs couldn't be that high.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Isn't it amazing that it's considered a failure because it didn't break a billion dollars during its theatrical run? Did DoTM and AoE (the 2 billionaires) spoil Hasbro's accountants that much?-Kanrabat- wrote:Oh yeah, I remember that TLK did "fail" thus the Bee Movie "reboot".
Also, I don't have the link but I just read that Mark Wahlberg asked for and got a $40 million salary for TLK after AoE made that billion.
TLK is considered a failure because it lost money, only TF movie to do so.
$605 million against a budget of $260 million. The Chinese market lost interest after AoE.
Posted by william-james88 on May 12th, 2023 @ 7:21pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Seriously? Didn't it make close to a billion? The production costs couldn't be that high.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Isn't it amazing that it's considered a failure because it didn't break a billion dollars during its theatrical run? Did DoTM and AoE (the 2 billionaires) spoil Hasbro's accountants that much?-Kanrabat- wrote:Oh yeah, I remember that TLK did "fail" thus the Bee Movie "reboot".
Also, I don't have the link but I just read that Mark Wahlberg asked for and got a $40 million salary for TLK after AoE made that billion.
TLK is considered a failure because it lost money, only TF movie to do so.
No, not close at all. And yes, production cost was ridiculously high, 40 M alone went to Wahlberg.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 12th, 2023 @ 7:28pm CDT
Posted by Burn on May 12th, 2023 @ 7:33pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:No, not close at all. And yes, production cost was ridiculously high, 40 M alone went to Wahlberg.
ah the joys of movie producers having to pay over-rated actors.
And by over-rated I mean, they could have slotted any generic actor into that role. There was nothing amazing about what he did. Most people will be going to see these movies for the Transformers, not the big name actors anyway.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2023 @ 9:19pm CDT
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:No, not close at all. And yes, production cost was ridiculously high, 40 M alone went to Wahlberg.
ah the joys of movie producers having to pay over-rated actors.
And by over-rated I mean, they could have slotted any generic actor into that role. There was nothing amazing about what he did. Most people will be going to see these movies for the Transformers, not the big name actors anyway.
Something that just can't get into the heads of those Hollywood pundits.
That's why we got Chris Pratt Mario.
The age of the Hollywood Superstar is over for years now, but Hollywood desperately wants it to come back. And the necromancy keeps failing.
Posted by william-james88 on May 12th, 2023 @ 10:11pm CDT
You can read all the bios below. Though please be aware that while they do come from Hasbro, some parts are just copy pasted from TF Wiki.















