Titans Return #HASCON exclusive Arcee Video Reviews

Thanks for the shout-out, I also reviewed the power bank prime in a lot of detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQZJoU3JiPM

I don't think this figure has received the love it deserves

YRQRM0 wrote:Thanks for the shout-out, I also reviewed the power bank prime in a lot of detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQZJoU3JiPM

I don't think this figure has received the love it deserves

We newsed that a little while ago!
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... iew/39510/

So, I picked up Krok yesterday. I like him. They did a good job recreating the original's color layout. It's my first experience with the Skullsmasher mold. Which itself is a brilliant update of the G1 design, aside from the tail's peg for use as a handheld weapon being 90 degrees off from the angle it should be. I guess the designer's mind wandered to Beast Wars Megatron while they were working. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's brought this up, but the hindlegs strike me as unfinished business. The way they're sculpted, with two solidly separate hollow sections (instead of a contiguous one), suggests that they were meant to have a knee joint originally. And then the way they're attached (with the ball on a separate plate instead of molded as part of the leg) looks like an aborted hinge setup for tucking them away in robot mode.

Owning Krok made me belatedly realize something: The vehicles of the separate Titan Masters. are a revisit of the Action Master Partner concept.

I also realized that Krok or Skullsmasher would be a good base for a Horri-Bull/Bullhorn kitbash. The transformation schemes are almost identical, the reptilian detailing of the sculpt works well..

Twin Twist and his wave mates are available for purchase at TRU at MSRP.
Got my order in for TT and WB. Passed on Misfire.

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=112871756

So the new Arcee will be up for sale at Toy Shop.......hopefully she will be available for more than 10 minutes.

Wanted to just put this here, since both RiD and TR did a Twinferno. They actually look pretty decent together!



2 heads and 4 dragon heads make for some interesting conversations

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Autobot puppet show!

Arcee/Leinad and Ultra Magnus as an Autobot boxset.

Will we get a Decepticon one (with the Scorponok Titan Master)?

nycPrime wrote:Twin Twist and his wave mates are available for purchase at TRU at MSRP.
Got my order in for TT and WB. Passed on Misfire.

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=112871756

Showing OOS for me now.

Not sure if this is the right place for this, or if it needs a new thread entirely, but I was looking into a bit of a consumer cost analysis on Titans Return vs Combiner Wars and it looks like, while it seems like CW was repaint city and had so much to collect it made your head spin, it looks like Hasbro has a sweet spot for what they think people are willing to pay to complete a line.

Both Combiner Wars and Titans Return came in at just a bit over $1600. How is that possible? Well it happened because, as we tend to forget, they introduced a new size class (Titan Masters) and had 2 Titan class figures instead of 1. A couple of patterns I noticed:

Not including the G2 boxsets (which basically were hasbro just wanting to squeeze every penny out of nostalgia, which I was okay with since I bought them), or the Titan Force (again, repaints released figures) the boxset/exclusive counts were remarkably similar:

Titans Return has 2 boxsets and 3 separate exclusives (Arcee, Clones, and Shreddicus). looking at around $300 for those exclusives.

Combiner Wars has 3 boxsest, Liokaiser, Computron, and Pyra Magna. Also $300.

Retail Voyagers were matched at 9 a piece, and Retail Leaders were matched at 6 as well.

Here it where I go into the theoretical aspect, the discussion portion if you will, feel free to skip if you don't want to read it.

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So, for those of us clamoring for certain figures, and disappointed by the abrupt ending of Titans Return (Slugslinger being the sole figure to end the line), we now have some insight into why. Hasbro appears to have met it's goal of what it feels individuals are willing to purchase within the line.

In terms of certain figures, here are the ones I have heard people wishing would have released:

Legends:
Frumble, Eject, Steeljaw, Ratbat, Cliffjumper, Freeway, Goldbug, Rollbar, Searchlight, Wideload

Deluxe:
Headmasters: Siren, Nightbeat, Hosehead, Fangry, Horri-Bull, Squeezeplay
Powermasters: Slapdash, Joyride
Targetmasters: Sureshot, Crosshairs, Pointblank, Spinister, Needlenose

Voyager:
Apeface, Snapdragon

So in order to fit these in, you would have to remove other figures... let's assume, that you take away Trypticon and the Titan Masters.

Trypticon could be worth 6 voyagers, 9-10 deluxes, or 15 legends
The titan masters could be valued at 2 per legends, 3 per deluxe, 5 per voyager

Theoretically, you could get all the Powermasters and Targetmasters, the Horrorcons, Frumble, Eject, Steeljaw, Ratbat, and Ramhorn as a Legends instead of Titan Master.

Personally, I definitely would have rather had Trypticon, and wait for the rest to trickle out eventually, versus waiting even longer for the Titans.

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Now what this means to me, moving forward, is that I expect Power of the Primes to maintain that $1600 collection number, and to keep approximately 9 voyagers and 6 leaders. We know the Titan already, and since this will be done before summer 2019, we expect the 2019 TItan to be included in the next Generations line. So I think we will see a decent number of figures in this line.

Obviously this post is from my perspective, but feel free to ask questions or put your own spin on it and share.

Rysquad wrote:

nycPrime wrote:Twin Twist and his wave mates are available for purchase at TRU at MSRP.
Got my order in for TT and WB. Passed on Misfire.

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=112871756

Showing OOS for me now.

Twin Twist sold out in under an hour. The other 2 sold out a few hours later. Pretty amazing demand.

nycPrime wrote:

Rysquad wrote:

nycPrime wrote:Twin Twist and his wave mates are available for purchase at TRU at MSRP.
Got my order in for TT and WB. Passed on Misfire.

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=112871756

Showing OOS for me now.

Twin Twist sold out in under an hour. The other 2 sold out a few hours later. Pretty amazing demand.

They do seem hard to come by. I saw two cases at my local TRU. Only picked up Misfire and Twintwist at the time. Finally went on Amazon and got Windblade the other day. I got tired of not finding her anywhere.

As for Amazon, Hot Rod is only $9.99 with Prime shipping right now.

Observation on why Getaway AKA Breakaway was picked to flesh out Wave 3 that's been rattling around in my head for a while:
With Powermaster Optimus Prime having been made, Hasbro decided they wanted another Autobot Powermaster character to go with him. And of all the remaining Autobot Powermasters, Getaway was the only one they could really shoehorn an existing Titans Return mold into being.

The ideal base figure for Getaway would be Universe Sunstreaker, but of course that would have been more work to turn into a TR toy if it was even possible.

I totally get why wave 5&6 figures sell out online -- they're hard to find in the States. I have yet to see them at all in Oregon, despite having so may brick & mortar options.

So I may not get these figures, due to poor purchasing decisions by my local buyers.

Just to make sure.
Will that HASCON Arcee be a regular release or remain exclusive? Because 100$ for a single TR deluxe is a hard pill to swallow.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:That shot of the Magnus head on Arcee was frightening...

Oh and for anyone who gets that Magnus head: put it on Magnus Prime! The helmet will cover it up, but at least you can say your Magnus Prime does have a Magnus head somewhere!

THE PAIN!!! MAKE IT STOP!!!!!


Seriously, that does not look good.

That is...not a good facesculpt. Ech.

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:That shot of the Magnus head on Arcee was frightening...

Oh and for anyone who gets that Magnus head: put it on Magnus Prime! The helmet will cover it up, but at least you can say your Magnus Prime does have a Magnus head somewhere!

It seems like many of these stand alone Titan Master heads like Ultra Magnus & Thunderwing don't have many good options for bodies to display them on. I wonder if Thunderwing would work on Galvatron's body though.

Magnus might look good on Top Spin/Twin Twist?