Titans Return Wave 3 Voyagers Optimus Prime and Megatron Found at US Retail

secondary use of the molds? Who the scrap used them before Prime and Megatron?

GalvatronG1 wrote:secondary use of the molds? Who the scrap used them before Prime and Megatron?

Not "second use", "secondary use" as in "the less intended use" since it's likely that molds were meant for "primary use" as Blitzwing and Octane.

Sabrblade wrote:

GalvatronG1 wrote:secondary use of the molds? Who the scrap used them before Prime and Megatron?

Not "second use", "secondary use" as in "the less intended use" since it's likely that molds were meant for "primary use" as Blitzwing and Octane.

Maybe that's not the best of wording, but what we're getting at is that these figures were primarily designed after one character, the "primary", with the redeco/retool character as the "secondary". It's an observed trend that the "secondaries" are released first, before the "primaries":

1) Sentinel Prime before Astrotrain
In all fairness, it's the body that resembles Astrotrain more with subtle hints of Sentinel, while the Titan Master Infinitus is all IDW Sentinel Prime. He's a mixed bag in the end.

2) Sky Shadow before Overlord
The fact he's split between a jet and tank, coupled with Onimus resembling Mega, one of Overlord's original Godmasters, makes this obvious.

3) Megatron before Blitzwing
Another obvious one, especially with Doomshot resembling G1 Blitzwing himself.

4) Optimus Prime before Octane/Tankor
Why else would he have that plane mode? Although, Diac looking like a Diaclone pilot aims more towards Optimus Prime.

All but Astrotrain/Sentinel do require some new parts, but it's fairly minor.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

GalvatronG1 wrote:secondary use of the molds? Who the scrap used them before Prime and Megatron?

Not "second use", "secondary use" as in "the less intended use" since it's likely that molds were meant for "primary use" as Blitzwing and Octane.

Maybe that's not the best of wording,

Agreed. I'm fighting a losing battle against the need to sleep.

So since Trypticon is so momentous (in more ways than one) that I'm unable to process it yet, I opt instead to share some thoughts about Broadside since I got him a week ago and have had some time to ruminate on him (overshadowed as he may be by more recent acquisitions like Victorion and GNAW, that beautiful little chunk of adorable rage-plastic).

As Stu posted an image demonstrating not too long ago, the jet mode can be notably improved by switching the tail fins around to point the other way (I recommend not just turning them 180 degrees, but also swapping the leg each fin is on - it helps keep more of the original functionality intact). While that photo also showcases further mods to the jet mode, the original configuration also actually looks a lot better just by swapping the fins, and is more stable than the fan-mode to boot!


And on the wing-height discussion, he does indeed look a lot better in person, and especially when he's not resting directly on the ground - which is hopefully at least somewhat conveyed with the help of a sneaky MP Roller to prop him up off the ground.


In robot mode, the fin-swap means that the larger (grey and blue) fins end up resting on his inner ankles, meaning that he can't quite stand with his legs straight together; however, since his feet are molded in A-stance and the fins don't limit posing much at all, it's hardly an issue and certainly worth the trade-off for a better jet IMO.


On the subject of other minor mods, I found it well worth Sharpie-ing (is that a verb?) his Titan Master. Some black on the TM's head (not the head mode, the actual head of the- ah, you get what I mean) goes a long way to stop him looking bland and will provide a tighter neck connection to the larger figure, but at the very least some silver Sharpie on the sides of the arms and legs (i.e. the sides of the head mode) make the whole thing much more coherent as a transition from face to head.


And now, for being such good children and reading all the way through my inane drivel, a bonus shot:

"Y'know, somehow I had the idea that this was going to be a much bigger problem than it actually is."

Yeah but it aint easy swapping the fins around as they're held in by metal pins.

Qwan wrote:And now, for being such good children and reading all the way through my inane drivel, a bonus shot:

"Y'know, somehow I had the idea that this was going to be a much bigger problem than it actually is."

That... that is perfect. Bless you.

I hope these wave 3 sightings result in a sixshot soon, he's my main want from this wave. Although I definitely want to nab some Gnaws as well. And yes, I've had my eye on some Voltron lions as well, but I want to grab them all at once and so far while every store has the Black Lion, I've only seen up to two limbs at once, and I don't think I've found all four even across multiple stores. Admittedly, I'm having difficulty remembering who I've seen.


I know this is a week old but I'd like to briefly address it:

RAR wrote:Oh and the Plural of Optimus is 'Optimus' But I think people would understand you better if you do a hatchet job on English grammar and say Optimuses or avoid it by saying things like : 'Multiple Optimus'

The possessive is Optimus' as in (This is Optimus' gun)

That is incorrect. The plural form of a proper noun is to just add "s" or "es" to the end. So the plural of Optimus is Optimuses. Possessive rules are much more disputed so both Optimus' and Optimus's can be correct, depending on who you talk to.

I saw both these guys at the Ipswich Entertainer in Suffolk last week

I wasn't talking about just Grammar - Optimus told me personally in a dream he likes Optimus' better than Optimus's (kidding).

Besides Optimuses does sound kind of terrible and the spell check approves of Optimus' and disproves of the others.

Am I the only one utterly confused by Hasbro's release of every TR figure except Wave 1? This is the order I found all these figures in.
Wave 1 Legends
Wave 1 Titan Masters
Wave 1 Deluxes
Wave 1 Leaders
Wave 2 Deluxes
Wave 2 Legends
Wave 2 Titan Masters
Wave 2 Voyagers
Wave 3 Deluxes
Wave 2 Leader
Wave 3 Titan Masters
Wave 3 Legends

Now, with Wave 4 Deluxes starting to show up, STILL not seen are the Leader Class Wave 3 (still on preorder even at online retailers) and only now are Wave 3 Voyagers starting to be sighted.

I realize retailers share some of the blame but seriously.....what is UP with Hasbro's distribution of this line?? None of the figures I listed above were ever in stock with another size class, but briefly. What parent is gonna wanna buy a Titan Master (which end up pegwarming HARD) without a figure it can interact with in a meaningful way, as a head, since deluxes aren't on shelves at the same time? Not for the entirety of this line so far have I seen an entire wave of all size classes on shelves at the same time. My local Walmart put out 4 cases of Wave 1 Leaders just two weeks ago, just a week before the Target across the street put out the first and so far only stock of Wave 3 Legends, almost two months AFTER Wave 3 Deluxes....do you see a pattern? Waves are showing up almost completely randomly, apart from other size classes in the same wave, and sometimes only a week or two before another Wave is sighted or stocked.

It makes ZERO sense to me why all size classes in a Wave aren't shipped at the same time.

Summoner wrote:I saw both these guys at the Ipswich Entertainer in Suffolk last week

Yep and Toys R Us in Cambridge had them couple weeks before Christmas and I love that Megatron. Good to they're finally being found in other locations for the people who want them who've had trouble finding them though.

King Kuuga wrote:

Qwan wrote:And now, for being such good children and reading all the way through my inane drivel, a bonus shot:

"Y'know, somehow I had the idea that this was going to be a much bigger problem than it actually is."

That... that is perfect. Bless you.

I hope these wave 3 sightings result in a sixshot soon, he's my main want from this wave. Although I definitely want to nab some Gnaws as well. And yes, I've had my eye on some Voltron lions as well, but I want to grab them all at once and so far while every store has the Black Lion, I've only seen up to two limbs at once, and I don't think I've found all four even across multiple stores. Admittedly, I'm having difficulty remembering who I've seen.


I know this is a week old but I'd like to briefly address it:

RAR wrote:Oh and the Plural of Optimus is 'Optimus' But I think people would understand you better if you do a hatchet job on English grammar and say Optimuses or avoid it by saying things like : 'Multiple Optimus'

The possessive is Optimus' as in (This is Optimus' gun)

That is incorrect. The plural form of a proper noun is to just add "s" or "es" to the end. So the plural of Optimus is Optimuses. Possessive rules are much more disputed so both Optimus' and Optimus's can be correct, depending on who you talk to.

Qwan wrote:And now, for being such good children and reading all the way through my inane drivel, a bonus shot:

"Y'know, somehow I had the idea that this was going to be a much bigger problem than it actually is."

What is needed now, really, is a recreation of this ICONIC shot from a CINEMATOPGRAPHY MASTERPIECE.



boatsword4lyfe

RAR wrote:I wasn't talking about just Grammar - Optimus told me personally in a dream he likes Optimus' better than Optimus's (kidding).

Besides Optimuses does sound kind of terrible and the spell check approves of Optimus' and disproves of the others.

Think I'll stick with Optimii....

Rgggghgh Broadside.

It's just that whole leg thing would've worked better if they found a way to extend them more forward or made them longer. So that they resemble rocket boosters like on Jetfire and Blitzwing. Instead of Broadside laying like he's about to give birth.

Third Party leg add-ons. Someone needs to get on this.

Va'al wrote:

Qwan wrote:And now, for being such good children and reading all the way through my inane drivel, a bonus shot:

"Y'know, somehow I had the idea that this was going to be a much bigger problem than it actually is."

What is needed now, really, is a recreation of this ICONIC shot from a CINEMATOPGRAPHY MASTERPIECE.



boatsword4lyfe

HA! More like 'boatclub4lyfe'

This is my thing ya know. Now I got ideas for when I get Broadside: Broadside + Gypsy v. Dezarus!

Hope to finally get that Megatron into my shrine!

Just picked up hot rod after hopping around to several walgreens, no wave 4 yet, but 1 out of 2 isn't terrible.

I like him, his joints are nice and tight, but the latch that holds his left arm to his shoulder is now stressed because it wouldn't unlatch his arm. Wish his titan masters limbs were cast in red, it would make the head mode so much more cohesive and rather nice looking.

The car mode is so sexy, I love it, but the left arm just does not want to align properly, dunno why, but it is nice nontheless, I just got tired of waiting for the next slew of TT reveals to see what their take on hot rod would look like.

Hellscream9999 wrote:...I just got tired of waiting for the next slew of TT reveals to see what their take on hot rod would look like.

Same here. Titans Return Hot Rod is so much better than his Classics 2006 iteration, and I just couldn't pass him up in person, even if there are a few small details I knew Takara would improve upon in the name of screen accuracy. I'm probably going to double dip, honestly, when Takara reveals their release, but I don't regret picking TR Hot Rod at all, especially not at $10. I was lucky enough to find him this past December when the TR Deluxe figures were only $10 each at Target and Walmart.

Thanks to Dirt Captain on Twitter, we have our first US sighting of the wave 4 Titan Masters Repugnus and Shuffler! Both are brand new molds and are based on the Monsterbot Repugnus and the Autobot Master Warrior Shuffler, respectively. The figures were found at a Sierra Vista, AZ Walmart. With this sighting, coupled with our other sightings of Wave 4 figures coming out, we can assume that many of you will be seeing these figures soon. So head on out and hunt down some more figures!

I'm not sure about Repugnus (he needs to be a full-sized 'bot IMO) but Shuffler will be MINE.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:...I just got tired of waiting for the next slew of TT reveals to see what their take on hot rod would look like.

Same here. Titans Return Hot Rod is so much better than his Classics 2006 iteration, and I just couldn't pass him up in person, even if there are a few small details I knew Takara would improve upon in the name of screen accuracy. I'm probably going to double dip, honestly, when Takara reveals their release, but I don't regret picking TR Hot Rod at all, especially not at $10. I was lucky enough to find him this past December when the TR Deluxe figures were only $10 each at Target and Walmart.

Ugh, lucky, can't complain, as I scored breakaway and triggerhappy at that price alongside deluxe Bisk.

This is an exceptional hot rod, just so solid and amazing, wish the mp had taken large cues about kibble management from this figure

On another note, I managed to fix his tabbing issues, turns out the mushroom peg in his left elbow had slipped out of place, now he's perfect

william-james88 wrote:We finally have our first sighting of the Titans Return Wave 3 Voyager figures Optimus Prime and Megatron.
These were found by Seibertronian Deathsaurus1 who told us the following:

I would like to report finding titans return voyager class megatron and optimus prime in a walmart store out in AZ! They were $24.96 in a goodyear AZ walmart

That is great news for the US and very much in line with our previous reporting that a huge shipment of Titans Wave 3 had landed on American shores. The only figure from this wave that still hasn't been spotted yet is Sixshot so please let us know if you see him in stores.

These two voyagers are the secondary use of the confirmed Titans Return Octane and Blitzwing which will hopefully be revealed this Saturday at the New York Toy Fair.

Happy Hunting!

...Huh, these guys have been on shelves for ages in the UK. I should have taken pics and reported them. But then I'd probably look like a right loon taking pictures in a toy store (especially with my lack of a camera phone).

Can't wait for Shuffler, looks kinda evil for being an

Black Hat wrote:I'm not sure about Repugnus (he needs to be a full-sized 'bot IMO) but Shuffler will be MINE.

I agree about Shuffler. Both of these are definite buy on sights!

Wave 4? What the [expletive] happened to wave 3? Mother[shut your mouth]ing Hasbro...

Hellscream9999 wrote:Can't wait for Shuffler, looks kinda evil for being an

The red eyes and purple color scheme are probably what are throwing you off. Very few Autobots (not counting Shattered Glass) have a purple color scheme. That's definitely more of a Decepticon trope.

Optimum Supreme wrote:Wave 4? What the [expletive] happened to wave 3? Mother[shut your mouth]ing Hasbro...

Ask your local retailer. Most stores order way too much of Waves 1 and 2 and then never order the later waves because they've still got inventory of 1 and 2 sitting on the shelves.

Black Hat wrote:...Huh, these guys have been on shelves for ages in the UK. I should have taken pics and reported them. But then I'd probably look like a right loon taking pictures in a toy store (especially with my lack of a camera phone).

Reporting them from where you are wouldnt have done anything since we knew they were in the UK and Canada for a while. The news here is that they were found in the US, because they were never found in the US until now.

Anyways, its cazy how fast its going with Wave 4 titans masters around. I only sw wave 3 titan masters once (and bought em!).

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:...Huh, these guys have been on shelves for ages in the UK. I should have taken pics and reported them. But then I'd probably look like a right loon taking pictures in a toy store (especially with my lack of a camera phone).

Reporting them from where you are wouldnt have done anything since we knew they were in the UK and Canada for a while. The news here is that they were found in the US, because they were never found in the US until now.

Anyways, its cazy how fast its going with Wave 4 titans masters around. I only sw wave 3 titan masters once (and bought em!).

Funny thing is that I've seen Titan Masters Wave 3 in Michigan since the end of November. So it's not that fast that they've come out.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Yeah but it aint easy swapping the fins around as they're held in by metal pins.

I don't think they are... at least, they weren't on my copy? For me at least it was just a matter of friction-hinges (albeit rather tight ones), so the swap was relatively easy - though now that they've been swapped, some of the fins don't like to stay clipped and take every opportunity to try and pop out of their hinge...

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:...Huh, these guys have been on shelves for ages in the UK. I should have taken pics and reported them. But then I'd probably look like a right loon taking pictures in a toy store (especially with my lack of a camera phone).

Reporting them from where you are wouldnt have done anything since we knew they were in the UK and Canada for a while. The news here is that they were found in the US, because they were never found in the US until now.

Anyways, its cazy how fast its going with Wave 4 titans masters around. I only sw wave 3 titan masters once (and bought em!).

Funny thing is that I've seen Titan Masters Wave 3 in Michigan since the end of November. So it's not that fast that they've come out.

I saw them early Janary, but I thought we would at least see some saturation before getting wave 4.

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:...Huh, these guys have been on shelves for ages in the UK. I should have taken pics and reported them. But then I'd probably look like a right loon taking pictures in a toy store (especially with my lack of a camera phone).

Reporting them from where you are wouldnt have done anything since we knew they were in the UK and Canada for a while. The news here is that they were found in the US, because they were never found in the US until now.

Anyways, its cazy how fast its going with Wave 4 titans masters around. I only sw wave 3 titan masters once (and bought em!).

Funny thing is that I've seen Titan Masters Wave 3 in Michigan since the end of November. So it's not that fast that they've come out.

I saw them early Janary, but I thought we would at least see some saturation before getting wave 4.

I definitely need GNAW!!! I hope to see him before I see wave 4.

william-james88 wrote:I saw them early January, but I thought we would at least see some saturation before getting wave 4.

Same here, (well late December with that whole not-in-system fiasco)...but that is getting to be an interesting word. I don't think since TR began I have ever seen a WalMart or Target have all their pegs even close to full for this line, TRU compensates by reducing shelf space, I swear every time I go in there, the space for Generations gets smaller and smaller, its far less than the allotted space at any WalMart or Target I go to currently. In December the TRU's in my area kind of went overboard with Legends class, but they remedied that with a BOGO 50% sale.

And while I have been fairly fortunate in my sightings, come to think of it, I've seen each wave in less and less quantities, (for example, If overall I saw 100 wave 1 deluxes, I saw probably 60 from wave 2, and 30 so far from wave 3...)and at least in my case its not due to the toys not selling, they just aren't getting restocked for some reason.

Yay! Shuffler will be mine! But... an elephant only brings good luck when it's given to you...

Nah, just kidding. I'm getting him on sight, along with Nightbeat as he and Skytread are part of the assortment. Now the wait is on for Trizer!

there is a 3rd party repugnus that is so awesome.i wish hasbro would make something like that

By the way, all Titan Master Vehicles have Weapon Modes that integrate the little figure in some form, except for the shield that is Sawback/Lione. Has anybody figured out how to?

And something tells the shield mode we have (as packaged) is not the intended form. In jet mode, there's a sculpted channel where the pegs are, that's unused in any mode.

Jelz, I'm pretty sure you just leave Lione where he is in Lion mode for the shield.
As for the other thing. I'll have to investigate.

Cobotron wrote:Jelz, I'm pretty sure you just leave Lione where he is in Lion mode for the shield.

You can't, he's too wide.... I think, may have to try that.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Jelz, I'm pretty sure you just leave Lione where he is in Lion mode for the shield.

You can't, he's too wide.... I think, may have to try that.

that's where he is in mine. He stays right there

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Jelz, I'm pretty sure you just leave Lione where he is in Lion mode for the shield.

You can't, he's too wide.... I think, may have to try that.

that's where he is in mine. He stays right there

Yup. He's in there.



But Jelz, explain this channel thing you are talking about. I'm not seeing it.

"Confirmation" of Titans Return "Speed Set".

Of course, take with many grains of salt until we get a picture of a listing.

The "Channel" is a groove located in the seat of the jet mode, between the front legs. It fits the heels perfectly.

And a Canadian TRU SKU (290858) plus a price (CAD 149.99) sounds legit enough, if properly tested. If it has a Hasbro product code, it's real.

you know, after watching reviews and witnessing how comparatively disappointing Sixshot is in hand, I'm really excited for Sky Shadow. Despite how simple it is, it looks like a really great figure.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:you know, after watching reviews and witnessing how comparatively disappointing Sixshot is in hand, I'm really excited for Sky Shadow. Despite how simple it is, it looks like a really great figure.

Ah, sorry you are dissapointed

I was too

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:you know, after watching reviews and witnessing how comparatively disappointing Sixshot is in hand, I'm really excited for Sky Shadow. Despite how simple it is, it looks like a really great figure.

Ah, sorry you are dissapointed

I was too

Sixshot is really close to being really good, and he is the character I most wanted to see a new leader class toy of. But a few things would have gone a long way:

1) better knees. those things going both ways and being somewhat loose do not work too well

2) additional tabs. I hate his jet mode because the tank treads are either scraping at the silver paint or the arms are floppy as a wet noodle. Gun mode is bad because the loose knees mean the actual gun barrel is really floppy and likes to move around. The wolf, tank, and car work, but I wish the others had that little bit more to help them out. I wish the tank treads clicked in somewhere in tank mode too.

3) paint, not stickers. I am hating, outright hating, the new stickers trend. It's the reason I decided not to go Megs. It's the reason Sixshot can't look really good. the stickers are no good, they are shoddily applied, and they are cheap.

It has been a long time we have heard anything regarding this year's version of the Combiner Wars boxsets like Victorion and the G2 combiners. The rumours are that we are getting two sets this year, with redecos of Titans Return molds with each set having a leader, voyager, 2-3 deluxes and a titan master. This is where Tidal Wave, Nautica, and the clones are supposed to show up. Their contents are still rumours, which will hopefully be confirmed this saturday, but their existence is now fact.

The first Titans Return gift set, the Speed Pack, has been found on a Toysrus computer. We even have the listing, price and code. The set is listed as EX-Generations SRS Pack 1 Speed. The Canadian SKU is 290858 and it is listed at 149.99 CAN, which is the same inflated over compensating exchange rate price the Combiner Wars boxsets. So this also confirms that these Titans Return sets will be the same price point as the Combiner Wars ones, at around $ 100 USD. The fact that this is listed at Pack 1 definitely hints to there being more packs, as rumoured. Do any of you have any idea as to what the SRS might mean? Are you ready for more redecos? Let us know in the comments!

SRS probably stands for SERIES. Just throwin that out there.

And man, if this is the only way to get a hold of Tidal Wave and Nautica, i might be sad.

SRS ... Serious ... Serious Speed ... Turbocharged Serious Speed ... TURBOMASTERS

It's clearly just 10 versions of Blurr, in various stages of moving fast. Sold!