Top 10 Worst Transformers Toys of All Time
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Top 10 worst transformers toys of all time
This list is simple, it is made up of toys that wouldn't be recomended to anyone ever. While I wrote this list, this was actually chosen by the community in a thread I had made called "Transformers that are absolute garbage", which people responded to. I kept the ones that weren't unanimous (but which I greatly dislike) for honourable mentions. Now, let's get to this!
10. Movie legends Jazz
This is when you know the designer just wasn't trying. A robot having the front of the vehicle as his chest is the most basic Trasformers design of all time. How badly can you mess that up? Well, this badly. All this toy had to do was have the car front as the robot chest and I guess that's what we got, even if it meant having a fake chest that is just right there on the car's roof. The first movie's Legends Class toys were not great and this is a great example of just how bad things could get. The deluxe Jazz that came out was not great toy either, but at least the car mode didnt look this bad.
9. Beast Machines Silverbolt
I just want to put some "sick" emoticons and just call it a day. It would be as much effort as this toy designer put into the toy. I think what is truly terrible about this toy is how Hasbro knew full well how terrible it was and still sold it to us. The reason we suspect they know it's bad (rather to them simply not caring if it is or not) is because this is one of the only toys from the beast era (if not the only toy) to be packaged in Robot Mode instead of Beast Mode. The robot mode is not bad actually and looks like the show model. Though you do wonder how it can possibly transform since it doesnt seem to have any kbble aside from the weapon that partforms to make wings. Well that's because the alt mode doesn't look like much, at all. It's the robot doing a hand stand, with his head right there between his arms (the beast legs). This looks nothing like the show model (which while it's subbosed to be a condor, reminds me more of a turkey without the big tail) and that's even besides the point that the colours are all wrong. This toy is just a mess really and as bad as they get for the usually phenominal beast era.
8. AOE Leader Prime First Edition
Luckily, this toy did not set the tone for what Transformers would become. I remember quite clearly when it was the first toy available of the Age of Extinction line, a toyline which promised simplified transformations to appeal to youger age groups. This toy was looming over making all our fears a reality. A big expensive toy that was made simpler and unlike the other one steps and such, it was not marketted for kids (who would need amazon accounts to purchase it in the states). Turns out this was just a fluke. Transformers remained just as traditionally complex after with some simpler toys aimed at the correct audience (which is nothing new for the line). But you still have this guy as the odd outlier, the mother of all shellformers in a time when you'd think Hasbro had grown out of that outdated engineering concept. In great shellformer fashion, you could even have it so that you could just detach the figure from the shell and have a perfectly fine truck mode that excluded the robot. This toy symbolizes a scary time and while I am glad we are all passed that, it doesnt make this abomination any less terrible.
7. Prime Deluxe Airachnid
The phrase "feels like a KO" gets thrown around a lot when fans express their distaste for a toy's quality but it's most often hyperbolic and is more of an insult towards the toy than an actual fact. I have bought dollar store KOs in the past (guilty as charged) out of curiosity and they are far far worse than all official toys out there. The plastic is usually very supbar, frail, and lacks a bunch of sculpting detail. They also lack paint apps and you usually just end up with blotchy paint in limited areas while the rest of the toy is just made up of the undistrubed monochrome cheap coloured plastic. The only toy in the history of the brand that this description would also apply to is Robots in Disguise Prime Airachnid.
6. Energon Hotshot
This toy sacrifices a lot for the gimmick of being able to form the top or bottom half of a combined bot. The biggest sacrifice is the articulation. After Beast Wars and RID and some of Armada, it looked like G1 articulation was a thing of the past never to be seen again. But this guy brings it back. He's a brick with heavy disproportions, tiny arms which can't be positioned more than straight ahead, a head that can't even rotate, and legs that don't do much more than split. Any articulation included is wasted and can't be used. He may not be junk to some but amongst the entire Energon line (looking only at original molds here), I can't think of anyone worse. His lack of meaningful leg articulation makes him even worse than his Armada self, which is mind boggling. He simply sacrifices far too much for his gimmick.
5. Transformers G1 1987 Wideload
Just look at it. Sure, it's a simple toy, but so are Topspin and Twintwist and they look like decent 80s robots. This little guy just looks like he should be holding a "kill me" sign. Every single one of this throttlebot brethren have a better alt mode and a MUCH nicer robot mode. The only thing he has going for himself is the decent pullback gimmick but it works just as well on any of the other far superior throttlebots. The lack of any articulation is already bad enough with this line but this guy even gives you these overall terrible proportions, making this probably the worst G1 toy.
4. PCC Doubleclutch
Speaking of the worst proportions possible, I give you PCC Double Clutch! The Power Core Combiner (PCC) line is already not a fan favourite so you know this guy is bad when even the most devoted PCC fan says this guy is one of the worst. Aesthetically this is an ugly figure with terrible proportions, but beyond that it is really sad how the way the combiner arms connect make it so that the arms always pop off. The last thing you want in a combiner is for it to just keep falling apart. So he fails at both an aesthetic and functional level. That's like both Siskel and Ebert giving you a thumbs down.
3. Titanium Megatron
Yes, this being in third place means Titanium Megatron is not the worst Transformers toy of all time, but that is by no means a compliment. It just means that we live in a sad world where there are 2 Transformers out there which are worse (not by much though). Although the figure looks somewhat impressive, it notably has the tendency to fall apart during transformation. Along with its loose joints, it was relatively difficult to pose in robot mode without it falling over, something that was entirely par for the course when it came to Titanium figures. It was also known for being a shelfwarmer thanks to people knowing how poor it was.
2. Transformers Armada Side Swipe (Stepper)
This toy is such garbage, it's unbelievable. While Energon Hotshot was pretty bad, he doesn't hold a candle to the atrocity of this toy which easily claims the title as both the worst toy of the Cybertron Trilogy and the toy which sacrifices the most for a gimmick. Look at the proportions! The forearms are enormous, the legs are an afterthough (they are just what's left of the car). G1 may not have had articulation but at least it had style. This has nothing. The whole robot mode aesthetic is sacrificed for the minicon gimmick and that would be bad enough but have you seen what the minicon looks like? Is this a face you would sacrifice so much for?
So, not only does Sideswipe have the worst robot mode I have ever seen but he is paired with Nightbeat, the worst and laziest looking minicon of all time. That's right, that makes this toy double garbage. The only good thing is that this means both atrocities can be avoided at once. For everyone out there, this might be the worst, and I would understand them, but what I hate more than hot garbage toys is paying more money for them, and hence...
1. Transformers Voyager Animated Megatron
Let me list the reasons for him being a piece of junk:
1.Lazy alt mode simply made up of rearranged robot mode parts which looks like a mess.
2. They couldn't even get that right, because the show model shows his fusion cannon mounted differently. So he's a pile of Junk that isnt even show accurate.
3. The gun is too heavy for him and can't stay attached if his life depended on it. You have to mod his fusion cannon to get it to sit properly on his arm.
4. His deluxe and more affordable version gets the paintjob right but this voyager doesnt?!
5. His hands have no articulation of any kind and are posed as if he's constantly shaking hands.
6. When I first bought him (he came free with a lot I bought, give me a break!), the person told me he was missing his back piece. That made sense to me since his back looks like what you'd uncover if you opened up a Transformer. Turns out, he was referring to his long skirt piece in the back, which means his back is a mess that looks like a Piet Modrian painting naturally. Even the Cyberverse commander Prime Megatron, for all its lazy alt mode glory doesn't mess that part up.
8. Both automorph gimmicks do not work well and the one on his chest ends up making his robot mode very annoying to pose properly or play with. Which brings me to my final point...
You would think a toy with an inaccurate alt mode made up of a mess of robot mode parts would at least have a structurally sound robot mode (take Prime Megatron for instance or the first movie Megatron toys) but this one doesn't. And unlike his "better" deluxe version (better coloured at least), he's at the second highest price point. The only worse thing than paying a little bit of money for a pile of junk is paying more money for it.
So, it pretty much fails on all accounts I can think of. When comparing to the rest of the phenomenal Transformers Animated toyline, he becomes a sin for simply existing. If you want more hating on him, there is a whole thread I found on this site dating from 2008, when he was first released.
Honourable mentions: BW Optimus Minor, Cybertron Thunderblast, ROTF Demolishor, Cybertron Backstop, Armada Scavenger, G1 Wheelie, G1 Flamefeather, Beast Machines Nightscream, Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor, 2007 Legends Megatron, ROTF Blazemaster and many many more.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 20th, 2016 @ 9:04am CST
Yeah, I do know what I just bought but for some reasons, I really wanted that figure for a long time. After seeing a video review, I confirmed my purchase because I think it's not too bad.
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Agreing very much on 2007 legend Jazz, Prime Airachnid, Titanium Energon Megatron, voyager Animated Megatron, and Armada Sideswipe. I have them all. I hate them all, except Armada Sideswipe. I bought it on purpose especially because of his hillarious and derpy design.
One figure that I REALLY hate and made me rage is ROTF Voyager Starscream. The hands sticking out of the vehicle mode when the instructions tell you they can fold away. The elbows that bend the wrong way. And especially the version I got, the DOTM version with opaque red parts. This toy is pure concentrated rage for me.
Also, the alternity seeker mold. What garbage. Both mode look good, but it's impossible to transform it without the damn door falling off, and he cant stand correctly even if it's life depend on it. Expensive garbage.
Posted by Darthshadow on February 20th, 2016 @ 9:41am CST
Every one of the top 10 worst TFs all belong to the movie line. Nearly every movie figure ever made is crap.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 20th, 2016 @ 9:53am CST
Darthshadow wrote:Gotta disagree with the list.
Every one of the top 10 worst TFs all belong to the movie line. Nearly every movie figure ever made is crap.
2/10. Made me reply.
Posted by Randomhero on February 20th, 2016 @ 9:53am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 20th, 2016 @ 10:00am CST
Darthshadow wrote:Gotta disagree with the list.
Every one of the top 10 worst TFs all belong to the movie line. Nearly every movie figure ever made is crap.
Well that's flat out wrong. The leader class Primes from the first 2 movies are awesome. Human alliance Jazz is a figure good enough to earn a spot on my masterpiece shelf. Hell, even AOE had an amazing figure in EMOP.
Posted by Randomhero on February 20th, 2016 @ 10:03am CST
Ironhidensh wrote:Darthshadow wrote:Gotta disagree with the list.
Every one of the top 10 worst TFs all belong to the movie line. Nearly every movie figure ever made is crap.
Well that's flat out wrong. The leader class Primes from the first 2 movies are awesome. Human alliance Jazz is a figure good enough to earn a spot on my masterpiece shelf. Hell, even AOE had an amazing figure in EMOP.
Leader class Prime, that jungle strike ironhide with all the clips, Brawl, Lockdown, leader Starscream, Dark of the moon Megatron, DOTM barricade are all perfect and fun figures.
Posted by Amelie on February 20th, 2016 @ 10:16am CST
Turns out, he was referring to his long skirt piece in the back, which means his back is a mess that looks like a Piet Modrian painting naturally.
I actually like Modrian. Especially his abstract trees. Lets not insult Modrian when comparing his work to garbage like that Megatron.
If anything - Megatron resembles a Jackson Pollock some drunkard has coughed up on the roadside.
Posted by william-james88 on February 20th, 2016 @ 10:22am CST
Randomhero wrote:-scrolling down the list- yes, yes, I agree so far, yes, yes, these are terrible figures, 2. Armada sideswipe, I can't argue that. Man I can't argue any of these. 1. Cybertronian animated Megatron...awe man...I really enjoy that figure. Lol well to each his own. I won't deny he is does transform into a lump of nothingness and his canon hinge is awful and you can't lock his chest in but he's so charming to me!
That's cool. Well at least you see and understand where I am coming from
Darthshadow wrote:Gotta disagree with the list.
Every one of the top 10 worst TFs all belong to the movie line. Nearly every movie figure ever made is crap.
Tell that to the multitude of fans who called foul on me not including the Movie Blackout mold as part of the best Helicopter TFs: top-5-best-helicopter-transformers-toys-t106231.php
Posted by Darthshadow on February 20th, 2016 @ 10:32am CST
Posted by Andrius on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:05am CST
Posted by Zetatron on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:07am CST
Posted by Alpha Dominus on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:12am CST
Let's not forgot perhaps the laziest marketing idea for Transformers-Combiner Wars! When it first started out we were treated to new renditions of our favorite combiner characters. Hey look, a newly engineered Superion! Over there, Menasor! And whoah, check out Devastator! Just one of those figures is almost as large as the original! But very soon, we discovered some of its cheap shortcuts.
Multifunctional hands/feet looks good on paper but really it looks pathetic in person. With the exception of that amazing Devastator each combiner suffers from Cinderalla feet. Placing fist size hands on any combiner is just bad comedy. You know what I'm talking about.
Another gimmick that looks great on paper: Modular construction. Just "no". Just because a bot can combine doesn't mean they should combine. By shoehorning characters that don't share relatively similar designs or alt functions,we're left with a combiner that is noticeably conspicuous. Optimus Maximus, Betatron and Sky Reign are the abominations/results of this Hasbro experiment that would certainly make Jhiaxus proud.
The idea of retooling/recoloring is a manufacturing concept that has been with Transformers since the beginning. From it we've been introduced to some of the most memorable characters in the canon. It certainly helps to maximus Hasbro's quarterly return. Kudos to them (and any other toy company) for milking this approach. Unfortunately, the volume of redecos in the combiner line has become noticeable to the point of exploitation. "Computron" and Victorion were perfect examples of missed opportunities which instead sought to recycle resources for capital gain. "Twin" helicopters? Sure. "Afterburner" and "Strafe"? Yeah, not exactly hi sci-fi designs there.
For my vote, I nominate the extremely obvious cost-cutting measures that the Combiner Wars line displays on virtually all of its figures. For eye-searing color schemes (Victorion), sneaky recycling (G2 combiners), daft designs (Scattershot) and misguided,flawed size consistency (silly feet) Combiner Wars takes the win.
Posted by Randomhero on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:16am CST
Alpha Dominus wrote:With the exception of that animated Megatron (dat robot mode!)figure I dig this list.
Let's not forgot perhaps the laziest marketing idea for Transformers-Combiner Wars! When it first started out we were treated to new renditions of our favorite combiner characters. Hey look, a newly engineered Superion! Over there, Menasor! And whoah, check out Devastator! Just one of those figures is almost as large as the original! But very soon, we discovered some of its cheap shortcuts.
Multifunctional hands/feet looks good on paper but really it looks pathetic in person. With the exception of that amazing Devastator each combiner suffers from Cinderalla feet. Placing fist size hands on any combiner is just bad comedy. You know what I'm talking about.
Another gimmick that looks great on paper: Modular construction. Just "no". Just because a bot can combine doesn't mean they should combine. By shoehorning characters that don't share relatively similar designs or alt functions,we're left with a combiner that is noticeably conspicuous. Optimus Maximus, Betatron and Sky Reign are the abominations/results of this Hasbro experiment that would certainly make Jhiaxus proud.
The idea of retooling/recoloring is a manufacturing concept that has been with Transformers since the beginning. From it we've been introduced to some of the most memorable characters in the canon. It certainly helps to maximus Hasbro's quarterly return. Kudos to them (and any other toy company) for milking this approach. Unfortunately, the volume of redecos in the combiner line has become noticeable to the point of exploitation. "Computron" and Victorion were perfect examples of missed opportunities which instead sought to recycle resources for capital gain. "Twin" helicopters? Sure. "Afterburner" and "Strafe"? Yeah, not exactly hi sci-fi designs there.
For my vote, I nominate the extremely obvious cost-cutting measures that the Combiner Wars line displays on virtually all of its figures. For eye-searing color schemes (Victorion), sneaky recycling (G2 combiners), daft designs (Scattershot) and misguided,flawed size consistency (silly feet) Combiner Wars takes the win.
So your vote is for figures you don't own or haven't even seen in person. There's that back seat criticism I was saying.
Posted by Darthshadow on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:19am CST
I agree completely. The author just hates being told he's wrong when he is clearly wrong.
That Animated Megatron is the best toy on that list and to say G1 Wideload is worse than the other Throttlebots is just downright ridiculous.
The movie lines are filled with garbage.
Posted by william-james88 on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:24am CST
Darthshadow wrote:I agree completely. The author just hates being told he's wrong when he is clearly wrong.
That Animated Megatron is the best toy on that list and to say G1 Wideload is worse than the other Throttlebots is just downright ridiculous.
The movie lines are filled with garbage.
Nobody is wrong, it's all about opinions, nothing here is factual. And the list isn't just my opinion but a round up of the community's collective opinion. There is even a link to the thread discussing that Megatron figure for everyone to check for themselves.
This is supposed to be fun, a chance for us to all let loose and say what we loathe. I look forward to reading people's own lists Feel free to tell us which top 10 movie figures you dislike the most.
Posted by Alpha Dominus on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:33am CST
Randomhero wrote:
So your vote is for figures you don't own or haven't even seen in person. There's that back seat criticism I was saying.
If not having a figure in hand for scrutiny means back seat criticism than that's certainly what I'm doing. My vision is just fine and so far I don't like what I SEE.
Posted by Andrius on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:36am CST
Darthshadow wrote:Andrius wrote:
And yes, the movie toys should have dominated this list with a whole mess of Unicron Trilogy figures not far behind.
I agree completely. The author just hates being told he's wrong when he is clearly wrong.
That Animated Megatron is the best toy on that list and to say G1 Wideload is worse than the other Throttlebots is just downright ridiculous.
The movie lines are filled with garbage.
I get the sense that the list was written to spread the hate out over multiple lines, which I get from a "political" standpoint.
And every line has its duds, for sure.
But I find it hard to pick on anything from G1, mainly because, on some level, MOST of them are somewhat crappy, by modern standards. Many are funny-looking, overly-simplistic, or just downright stupid. But you know what? It's G1 and we're talking about toys that broke a whole mess of ground and set this whole thing in motion. So I'm able to look at them with the eyes of that kid who picked up his first "scramble city" limb and didn't care that the head was unpainted, square, and comically small.
(The Pretenders on the other hand... well, I'll just let that go for now.)
But of the modern lines -- and by that I mean Beast Wars onward -- each line has had some real missteps and real triumphs. What makes lists like this one sort of silly, though, is that these lines are NOT created equal.
Beast Wars, Animated, Prime, and most CHUG iterations are characterized by a bulk of designs which can be considered "good" or better, along with some truly exceptional designs and a small number of duds. Those lines skewed high.
But when I look at the movie toys, all I can think about was the almost nonstop disappointment of nearly each and every figure. There are absolutely exceptions. Unquestionably. But the deluxe/voyager lines skewed towards fiddly, kibble-heavy, ugly figures --particularly the toys that were based on movie characters. The lines, on the whole, were just depressingly bad.
Posted by Darthshadow on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:36am CST
Randomhero wrote:Darthshadow wrote:Randomhero wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Darthshadow wrote:Fine, those fans are fools because the movie toys are SHIZZLESNIT, period.
Shhhhhhhhhh... Grown ups are talking.
More like people who actually bought movie toys and can say what's fun about them while others who bought maybe one or none at all and feel like being back seat critics because they saw pictures of them and say they're the worse toys ever.
You should never assume, one I bought the entire run of the first movie toys and the first movie toys are among the best from all the movies and they are still crap.
So you bought an entire line of something you hated? Who's being foolish now? That's a lot of money spent on something you don't like.
Yes, the toys were all released, I was at Botcon 2007, I bought them all. I then kept them MISB for years before finally opening them and realizing they were crap. Most of my stuff is MISB, that's how I collect. I thought the movie toys might be worth money some day because they were from the first live action movie.
So again, it is still you who looks foolish because YOU are assuming shit you don't know.
Posted by Darthshadow on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:37am CST
william-james88 wrote:Darthshadow wrote:I agree completely. The author just hates being told he's wrong when he is clearly wrong.
That Animated Megatron is the best toy on that list and to say G1 Wideload is worse than the other Throttlebots is just downright ridiculous.
The movie lines are filled with garbage.
Nobody is wrong, it's all about opinions, nothing here is factual. And the list isn't just my opinion but a round up of the community's collective opinion. There is even a link to the thread discussing that Megatron figure for everyone to check for themselves.
This is supposed to be fun, a chance for us to all let loose and say what we loathe. I look forward to reading people's own lists Feel free to tell us which top 10 movie figures you dislike the most.
All of them except Leader class Optimus Prime (2007) and Human Alliance Bumblebee suck equally.
Posted by Darthshadow on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:42am CST
Andrius wrote:Darthshadow wrote:Andrius wrote:
And yes, the movie toys should have dominated this list with a whole mess of Unicron Trilogy figures not far behind.
I agree completely. The author just hates being told he's wrong when he is clearly wrong.
That Animated Megatron is the best toy on that list and to say G1 Wideload is worse than the other Throttlebots is just downright ridiculous.
The movie lines are filled with garbage.
I get the sense that the list was written to spread the hate out over multiple lines, which I get from a "political" standpoint.
And every line has its duds, for sure.
But I find it hard to pick on anything from G1, mainly because, on some level, MOST of them are somewhat crappy, by modern standards. Many are funny-looking, overly-simplistic, or just downright stupid. But you know what? It's G1 and we're talking about toys that broke a whole mess of ground and set this whole thing in motion. So I'm able to look at them with the eyes of that kid who picked up his first "scramble city" limb and didn't care that the head was unpainted, square, and comically small.
(The Pretenders on the other hand... well, I'll just let that go for now.)
But of the modern lines -- and by that I mean Beast Wars onward -- each line has had some real missteps and real triumphs. What makes lists like this one sort of silly, though, is that these lines are NOT created equal.
Beast Wars, Animated, Prime, and most CHUG iterations are characterized by a bulk of designs which can be considered "good" or better, along with some truly exceptional designs and a small number of duds. Those lines skewed high.
But when I look at the movie toys, all I can think about was the almost nonstop disappointment of nearly each and every figure. There are absolutely exceptions. Unquestionably. But the deluxe/voyager lines skewed towards fiddly, kibble-heavy, ugly figures --particularly the toys that were based on movie characters. The lines, on the whole, were just depressingly bad.
That is exactly how I see it. There might be the odd gem in the movie lines, but by and far they are ugly, terrible figures that while they may have sweet looking vehicle modes, look like kibble scrap garbage in robot modes. Most of them are overly complicated garbage and have little to no fun involved in them.
Animated, Prime, BW, RiD (2001 version) all had some amazing screen accurate stuff and the figures still looked good.
Posted by RAR on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:46am CST
Oh and why is everything on there post 2000 ?
There are a few less than Brillant 80's & 90's toys too.
Besides a lot of it is context you don't expect the same from a Titan Changer Optimus Prime that you do from a main line leader class for example.
Just for the Record though I actually rather like :
Legends Movie Jazz, & Energon Hotshot.
The issues with Animated Megatron can be partially fixed with a little TLC
Yes Armada Sideswipe is dreadful but you can even make him better by taking the pins out his doors _ I do like his car mode and his minicon deployment though.
Yeah Titaniium Earth Tank Mode Megatron kinda sucks - But if he was made of plastic not metal most of the issues would disappear.
Doubleclutch Is also fixable a bit of care and nail polish / floor polish and patience and he's perfectly fixable. I have no problems with his Proportions - though I can see that some might think his main head is a little to small - I actually think he's a pretty decent looking car and torso though.
Wideload - He is what he is I don't blame him for it.
Airachnid has a nice helicopter mode the thing that is tragic about her is that she can't do the cool things you'd want her to do like the spider-robot mode.
Basic Silverbolt is a bit awful.
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It is possible to think something Is OK even if you don't actually like it over much - I sort of feel that way about Beast Machinese Ultra Jetstorm... he's an OK jet and a lousy standing robot and an OK hovering robot - but he's not a 'satisfying toy' by any means...
Both Mega & Deluxe Beast Machines Optimus Primal really disapointed me but that was mainly due to colours and choice of material - if the Mega one wasn't yellow or the Deluxe used more opaque plastic both would be much more tolerable toys - the moulds are not dreadful its the colours and over use of clear plastic that is dreadful.
Not unlike the horribly placed Chrome Hasbro did way to much of in 2014 - Chrome isn't bad it's how you use it that can be terrible.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:55am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:58am CST
I thought it was a good list.
Posted by Andrius on February 20th, 2016 @ 11:59am CST
Alpha Dominus wrote:With the exception of that animated Megatron (dat robot mode!)figure I dig this list.
Let's not forgot perhaps the laziest marketing idea for Transformers-Combiner Wars! When it first started out we were treated to new renditions of our favorite combiner characters. Hey look, a newly engineered Superion! Over there, Menasor! And whoah, check out Devastator! Just one of those figures is almost as large as the original! But very soon, we discovered some of its cheap shortcuts.
Multifunctional hands/feet looks good on paper but really it looks pathetic in person. With the exception of that amazing Devastator each combiner suffers from Cinderalla feet. Placing fist size hands on any combiner is just bad comedy. You know what I'm talking about.
Another gimmick that looks great on paper: Modular construction. Just "no". Just because a bot can combine doesn't mean they should combine. By shoehorning characters that don't share relatively similar designs or alt functions,we're left with a combiner that is noticeably conspicuous. Optimus Maximus, Betatron and Sky Reign are the abominations/results of this Hasbro experiment that would certainly make Jhiaxus proud.
The idea of retooling/recoloring is a manufacturing concept that has been with Transformers since the beginning. From it we've been introduced to some of the most memorable characters in the canon. It certainly helps to maximus Hasbro's quarterly return. Kudos to them (and any other toy company) for milking this approach. Unfortunately, the volume of redecos in the combiner line has become noticeable to the point of exploitation. "Computron" and Victorion were perfect examples of missed opportunities which instead sought to recycle resources for capital gain. "Twin" helicopters? Sure. "Afterburner" and "Strafe"? Yeah, not exactly hi sci-fi designs there.
For my vote, I nominate the extremely obvious cost-cutting measures that the Combiner Wars line displays on virtually all of its figures. For eye-searing color schemes (Victorion), sneaky recycling (G2 combiners), daft designs (Scattershot) and misguided,flawed size consistency (silly feet) Combiner Wars takes the win.
There's always that guy who hates whatever's current because he expected it to be something it's not and feels disillusioned and let down. Since I don't know you and you list your specific gripes pretty clearly, I'll assume that's NOT you. I'm just saying.
I think there are a number of reasons to be frustrated by Combiner Wars, the barrage of retools and overall simplicity of the designs being probably the two largest for me.
But I'll say this about the line -- it's the first one in a LONG while that gives me real pleasure to just fiddle and "play" with the toys.
Do I love a good Masterpiece for complexity and display? Of course. And I regularly revisit some of my favorite Prime and CHUG toys.
But the Combiner Wars line is the first one in recent history that reminds me what it was like to be a kid -- and I'm talking 5-12 years old, here -- and just have fun.
The articulation is nice. The visual style is distinctive. And the whole combining concept is great. Always has been.
The designs are simple, sure, but that means they're accessible. I can transform a team from bot to alt to combined mode and back in ten minutes. That's less time than it takes me to transform some movie deluxe figures.
To me, the line is a terrific upgrade of the simple pleasure that was scramble city. And if that means I get saddled with a few too many iterations of the same mold, well, I'll live.
(And while I'm not excited by the potentially dropped ball that will be Victorion, I don't find anything about its release or that of the G2 homages to be exploitative. They're a playful wink and geared towards collectors. I appreciate the thought.)
Posted by Glarryg on February 20th, 2016 @ 12:03pm CST
Zetatron wrote:Titanium Megatron doesn't look like any iteration of the character that I can recall. More like they tried to mash together a few different versions of Megatron and created a Frankenbot not even fit to be a happy meal toy.
I know it doesn't excuse the figure's awfulness, but Titanium Megatron was based on a Dreamwave comic mini-series crossover story with G.I. Joe. Why they chose to do one figure in that line based on a not-terribly-popular comic book version is beyond me. It wouldn't be the only thing I'd question about the Titanium line, either.
Glarryg
Posted by Microraptor on February 20th, 2016 @ 12:09pm CST
MICRO’S REBUTTAL!
1.Jazz
He’s definitely not a great legends toy. However, his goofy charm, along with the presence of worse legends toys (looking at you Movie 1 Megs), makes me feel he doesn’t deserve a spot on this list.
2.Optimus Prime
While I agree he is a major shellformer, I enjoy this mold. Good detail, imposing stature, excellent weapons, and decent posability.
3. Airachnid
While I agree with your decision to put her on the list, I feel you did not sufficiently explain WHY she sucks so much. A nitpick of presentation rather than choice.
4.Wideload
While his lack of any functional articulation and odd proportions are bad points, his charm and (in my personal opinion) better proportions then both his throttlebot counterparts and some other attempts (cough*Battlechargers*cough) cause me to believe he’s not as bad as you make him out to be.
5.Double Clutch
I actually like this mold. His car mode is great and he has fantastic sculpted detail. While many dislike this mold’s proportions, I find they accentuate his aesthetic and make him look like a bruiser of a ‘bot. His articulation, while nothing special, is serviceable. And while the problems with his combiner mode are serious issues, my complete lack of interest in the gimmick of the PCC range makes me apathetic to them.
Posted by fenrir72 on February 20th, 2016 @ 12:49pm CST
Grandus is a must have to complete and has a working elevator especially if connected to Starconvoy but he does not transform at ALL. He hust lies on his belly. One of the worst /lazy design figs!
Henkei Hostshot
Posted by SureShot18 on February 20th, 2016 @ 1:01pm CST
As for the list itself, I think it covers all the toy lines well and does a good job of picking out the bad figures from the various lines. I'm not sure about Animated Megatron though, I don't think it really deserves the title of worst tf ever.
Posted by Triptykon on February 20th, 2016 @ 1:04pm CST
My local WalMart has one combiner Wars Dragstrip, and the rest of the devoted space is still stuffed with AOE garbage that has an actual layer of dust collected on the blister. Next time I'm there I'll remember to snap a pic.
Out of my personal collection, I'm with the poster that mentioned movie Arcee and Chromia. Total waste material. Had they not been gifts to my son from a relative who did not know the difference on the shelf between a quality bot and a turd, they would never be in our possession. He has a drawer in his room that is absolutely vomiting movie figures as we can't bring ourselves to put them on the display shelves with our scores of killer ones. And not just because they are hideous, but because most of them are just plain unposeable.
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 20th, 2016 @ 1:05pm CST
I have to nominate this set:
Two awful Transformers for the price of, well, just a little cheaper than two Deluxes. The only real redeeming factor is Tailwhip fits really nicely with Smolder and Legends Barricade.
Posted by Microraptor on February 20th, 2016 @ 1:36pm CST
Darthshadow wrote:william-james88 wrote:Darthshadow wrote:I agree completely. The author just hates being told he's wrong when he is clearly wrong.
That Animated Megatron is the best toy on that list and to say G1 Wideload is worse than the other Throttlebots is just downright ridiculous.
The movie lines are filled with garbage.
Nobody is wrong, it's all about opinions, nothing here is factual. And the list isn't just my opinion but a round up of the community's collective opinion. There is even a link to the thread discussing that Megatron figure for everyone to check for themselves.
This is supposed to be fun, a chance for us to all let loose and say what we loathe. I look forward to reading people's own lists Feel free to tell us which top 10 movie figures you dislike the most.
All of them except Leader class Optimus Prime (2007) and Human Alliance Bumblebee suck equally.
Terradive, ROTF Leader Prime, Bludgeon, Hubcap, Skystalker, DOTM Jolt, leader Brawl, Battle Blades Bumblebee, Skyhammer, Evasion Mode Optimus, Hound, ROTF Lockdown, Deluxe Ironhide, Human Alliance Barricade. I could go on.
Posted by Dead Man Walking on February 20th, 2016 @ 2:34pm CST
This toy is just a mess really and as bad as they get for the usually phenominal beast era.
I just can't buy statement. Beast WARS released some excellent figures, but almost exclusively starting with the Transmetals line. The pre-Transmetals lines were largely primitive (no pun intended) and had highly unconvincing alt modes. Beast MACHINES was crap start to finish. The colors were nonsensically bright and the figures were largely screen-inaccurate and completely out of scale. (Tiny Megatron and Obsidian, HUGE Nightscream, WTF?) And when they were screen-accurate it was even worse because those are some of the ugliest designs every foisted upon the Transformers brand. And that's all not mention the criminality of its portrayal of the characters (Rattrap as a useless coward, Cheetor as an EXTREME!!! Mountain Dew mascot, BA with no edge, Optimus as a dirty hippy, et al.)
Posted by Deadput on February 20th, 2016 @ 2:42pm CST
Darthshadow wrote:All of them except Leader class Optimus Prime (2007) and Human Alliance Bumblebee suck equally.
Have you actually played with the figures?
Because there are many great molds from the first movie yes there are some bad ones but the line was decent plus you have the wrong toys to compare anyways ROTF's toyline was the best of all the movies lines it had some really great figures that are just as good if not better then a lot of the current Generations toys.
Don't let your blind hate for Bay make you think everything is awful.
Posted by griftimus prime on February 20th, 2016 @ 2:57pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 20th, 2016 @ 2:59pm CST
Also don't know if anyone has listed dotm laserbeak in defence of good movie toys.
Posted by allcody on February 20th, 2016 @ 3:05pm CST
And that Laserbeak.. sigh. To think for a long time that had to be my go-to Soundwave until the WfC version came out.
Posted by hurricane567 on February 20th, 2016 @ 3:13pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 20th, 2016 @ 3:18pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 20th, 2016 @ 3:22pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Surprised no one mentioned rotf devs
Which one
Posted by Zetatron on February 20th, 2016 @ 3:26pm CST
Glarryg wrote:Zetatron wrote:Titanium Megatron doesn't look like any iteration of the character that I can recall. More like they tried to mash together a few different versions of Megatron and created a Frankenbot not even fit to be a happy meal toy.
I know it doesn't excuse the figure's awfulness, but Titanium Megatron was based on a Dreamwave comic mini-series crossover story with G.I. Joe. Why they chose to do one figure in that line based on a not-terribly-popular comic book version is beyond me. It wouldn't be the only thing I'd question about the Titanium line, either.
Glarryg
Wow...that was one god-awful recreation. I know the 'bots were drawn mostly in silhouette in the book, but even then you could tell they were taking their cues from G1, and the design art in the back of the TBP seems to back that up. To me the titanium figure looks like they started with Armada Megatron, cut off his antlers, slimmed him down, pulled the arms off some other robot and gave him a G1 comic style bucket helmet. The only other Titanium figure I had was War Within Optimus, and I always thought he was fairly well done. Didn't realize how bad the rest of the line was.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 20th, 2016 @ 3:27pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Surprised no one mentioned rotf devs
Which one
You know which one
At least the legends class one had the full team, and each had individual bot mode, for legends figures, they accomplished quite a bit, I'll cut them slack for that
Posted by Flashwave on February 20th, 2016 @ 3:42pm CST
Yeah, No. I cant agree with half theis list. I will grant you Airachnid. That is a terrible figure hindered by its own plastic, made worse by the Cyber figure half the size and twice as palayblr.
And Armada Sideswipe I will give you, but NOT Nightbeat. That may be a diminuitce figure, but ge was sized for a gimmick which as gimmicks go was actually pretty cool, and does a passable robot mode for having nothing to work with. He's got the same face as Shockwave, so you can't trash on his face. And he makes a great Scooter for Ceosscut.
But you cant tell me HotShot is a bad figure 0r that he is worse than Airachnid. He 9s blocky, but that was the astgetic at the time. RID spoiled us. But he has knees, elbows, shoulders, yoy can fet to a neck if you dont fasten his head down, and he has three things that are Alternators worthy details, one of which even the alternators didnt even try:
1) an opening hood with engine detail
2)opening doors
3) a working hardtop convertible. And dont tell me I am the only one who played woth him like that.
Sure, the cabin leaves something to be desired, what with no discernable steering wheel or seat, but neither did XBrawn.
animated Megatron? I dobt see how you can call a vehicle mode lazy when its trying to emulate a folded up flying robot. I never interpreted it as anything other than Megs turns into his own jetpack. And even stying withon the list, it still hides the robot better than say BM Silverbolt.
The PC guy was frustrating in his arm balljoints popping off in transformation, but if I had a nickel for every figure that happened to, I could finally afford a Metroplex AND have enough left over for Fort Max. His alt mode is belivable, the trunk works, and while his bot mode is blocky, the weight is fairly central, he's not overly front or back heavy like some. And on top of that, all if his Pcc posts were hidden in vehicle mode.
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 20th, 2016 @ 3:48pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Surprised no one mentioned rotf devs
Which one
You know which one
At least the legends class one had the full team, and each had individual bot mode, for legends figures, they accomplished quite a bit, I'll cut them slack for that
I do love the legends figure, quite a fun transformation as well. The big one is a waste of plastic though, I worked in a toy shop a while ago and I had to mark him down to £30 to shift him. I thought that was an achievement the owner wanted £100 for him...He didn't seem to understand my protests about that
Posted by william-james88 on February 20th, 2016 @ 4:04pm CST
Flashwave wrote:William-James88 rails about 10 random toys...
Along with Airachnid, which other 9 random toys would you rather rail about? I would really like to know.
Others too, dont be shy. Please give us a list of your own if you disagree. Like what you would remove and replace.
Posted by SureShot18 on February 20th, 2016 @ 4:11pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Good list will, sometime I should get my thoughts in order to write my own worst list. I owned voyager animated megatron and I got rid and never looked back, especially now I have the leader megs, now that's a good figure to play with. Sadly I do own three toys on this list but what can you do?
Also don't know if anyone has listed dotm laserbeak in defence of good movie toys.
Ravage from the ROtF line is pretty good as well.(seeing Laserbeak made me think of him)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on February 20th, 2016 @ 4:17pm CST
Zetatron wrote:The only two I disagree with are spots 1 and 3. I think they should be flipped. While Animated Megatron is an awful toy, it's at least recognizable as Animated Megatron to a degree. Titanium Megatron doesn't look like any iteration of the character that I can recall. More like they tried to mash together a few different versions of Megatron and created a Frankenbot not even fit to be a happy meal toy. Add in the pose-ability issues, pieces that fall off when you look at them and the overall sloppy design, and I'm surprised there isn't a crater somewhere in New Mexico where Hasbro dumped the entire stock just to get rid of them.
I gotta agree with this. Overall the list is right, just switch numbers one and three for me.
Posted by Evil Eye on February 20th, 2016 @ 4:19pm CST
Posted by Mr Skram on February 20th, 2016 @ 4:51pm CST
Posted by Alpha Dominus on February 20th, 2016 @ 5:34pm CST
Andrius wrote:
There's always that guy who hates whatever's current because he expected it to be something it's not and feels disillusioned and let down. Since I don't know you and you list your specific gripes pretty clearly, I'll assume that's NOT you. I'm just saying.
I think there are a number of reasons to be frustrated by Combiner Wars, the barrage of retools and overall simplicity of the designs being probably the two largest for me.
But I'll say this about the line -- it's the first one in a LONG while that gives me real pleasure to just fiddle and "play" with the toys.
Do I love a good Masterpiece for complexity and display? Of course. And I regularly revisit some of my favorite Prime and CHUG toys.
But the Combiner Wars line is the first one in recent history that reminds me what it was like to be a kid -- and I'm talking 5-12 years old, here -- and just have fun.
The articulation is nice. The visual style is distinctive. And the whole combining concept is great. Always has been.
The designs are simple, sure, but that means they're accessible. I can transform a team from bot to alt to combined mode and back in ten minutes. That's less time than it takes me to transform some movie deluxe figures.
To me, the line is a terrific upgrade of the simple pleasure that was scramble city. And if that means I get saddled with a few too many iterations of the same mold, well, I'll live.
(And while I'm not excited by the potentially dropped ball that will be Victorion, I don't find anything about its release or that of the G2 homages to be exploitative. They're a playful wink and geared towards collectors. I appreciate the thought.)
Firstly, I will be the first to admit that I am that guy who was let down by Combiner Wars and it is true that its relative freshness is the reason for my quickly compiled list for most hated Transformers toys.
Secondly, I appreciate the non-personal attack towards my sentiments. I understand how some folks do take what are only indivual criticism personally, but I at least try to air my gripes with a reason (Well most of the time anyway).You counter with several valid points that echo my own appreciation for the line and also help me to realise other great reasons to reconsider its merit.
I never would have thought Defensor would end up being my favorite combiner and that we'd find such insane levels of articulation in any combiner. Incidentally, most of what I've seen so far with Titans War looks amazing and I can't wait to get my hands on those bots!
Posted by Darthshadow on February 20th, 2016 @ 5:44pm CST
Microraptor wrote:Darthshadow wrote:william-james88 wrote:Darthshadow wrote:I agree completely. The author just hates being told he's wrong when he is clearly wrong.
That Animated Megatron is the best toy on that list and to say G1 Wideload is worse than the other Throttlebots is just downright ridiculous.
The movie lines are filled with garbage.
Nobody is wrong, it's all about opinions, nothing here is factual. And the list isn't just my opinion but a round up of the community's collective opinion. There is even a link to the thread discussing that Megatron figure for everyone to check for themselves.
This is supposed to be fun, a chance for us to all let loose and say what we loathe. I look forward to reading people's own lists Feel free to tell us which top 10 movie figures you dislike the most.
All of them except Leader class Optimus Prime (2007) and Human Alliance Bumblebee suck equally.
Terradive, ROTF Leader Prime, Bludgeon, Hubcap, Skystalker, DOTM Jolt, leader Brawl, Battle Blades Bumblebee, Skyhammer, Evasion Mode Optimus, Hound, ROTF Lockdown, Deluxe Ironhide, Human Alliance Barricade. I could go on.
Ok, go ahead, keep naming shitty toys, you're good at it.