Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Sunday, June 21st, 2020 10:03pm CDT

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We had a list before by our good friend Megatronus, and he had his own guidelines. Now, not only have 4 years past since, with a bunch of new black Optimus Prime repaints, but I'm opening it up to whichever toy had Nemesis or Scourge in their name. It seems to be the same with others, but I do tend to favour uniqueness when it comes to these repaints. Of course, that's a challenge for repaints, and hence why being ever so slightly unique scores a lot of points. Ok so on with the show!


5. Legends EX Black Convoy (Scourge/Nemesis Prime)

Firstly, the truck mode is a beautiful love letter to the original RID Scourge. And I really like it as an update. While the truck mode looks the part, it gives us a new take on the transformation by having the tanker segment incorporated into the robot mode, which also looks the part. And you can now have an RID Scourge in your classics collection. Of course, this deco works much better for this mold than the original release's red and blue Optimus Prime colour scheme but I even think this mold works better as Scourge than it does Octane, with those pop up antennas working much better on an Optimus style head. This, along with the various ways to position the shoulder pylons and wings adds to the versatility of the look to distinguish this from Titans Return Optimus or any other generations voyager Optimus figure. In the end, this toy looks the part, with the deco being a labour of love to the original, and has an interesting transformation. The plane serves as an extra and you can choose to ignore it without it detracting in any way.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys


4. Transformers Go! Hunter Nemesis Prime

Another toy which works much better in this particular deco. For some reason, the Hasbro version of the Optimus deco went for a greenish theme and gave him such an odd smiling headsculpt. But here we get that awesome black with teal highlights and red windows deco and a bad ass headsculpt. This toy's proportions works really well with the idea of Nemesis Prime being an intimidating threat and the wings and shoulders give you options as to how to present him on your shelf. He works really well in truck mode too with those extra teeth/spikes in the front giving him that extra murderous edge.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys


3. Transformers Robots In Disguise Scourge (Black Convoy)

This is basically G1 Nemesis. Well, G2, but you know what I mean, he's the original. And this is the toy that influenced the idea of Nemesis Prime we have in our collective minds (for the most part). Not only do we get the previously mentioned deco, but we also get the fact that this Prime looking figure is not the same as Optimus Prime since in that same line, Optimus had a very different look. Along with the toy's bigger stature, this sets a precedent for Nemesis needing to distinguish himself from Optimus and being imposing. Hence why I always favour Nemesis Primes that have a more unique look like different details, different molding, variation in presentation, rather than the straight up black Primes we get in the MP line.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys


2. Power of the Primes Nemesis Prime

If not for how unique Number 1 is as a concept, this one would take the cake. He is basically the ultimate Nemesis Prime figure. Not only do we get a very different and bad ass head sculpt for the leader class robot, but we get a different headsculpt for the smaller Optimus figure too. Plus we get a weapon that turns into a bird, reminiscent of the arms mircon line, a red sword homaging the multitude of red weapons Nemesis Prime toys got throughout the years and arm cannons from the Armada Nemesis Prime. So you get two toys in one encompassing many versions of Nemesis Prime with a bunch of new exclusive weapons made just for this toy. It was sold in a much bigger box than any leader class toy we've ever seen in the generations line and yet was still sold at the leader price point, which was a really cool surprise.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

1. Transformers Universe Nemesis Prime

This Big Convoy redeco is a beast! I am still so amazed that this is how Hasbro chose to release the mold in the west. We finally got an incredibly fun toy, but in an excellent deco. Between the viking-esque horns, massive gun, and blood red matrix, this surprisingly well articulated recycle of the older Beast Wares Neo figure is the perfect vessel for a bad as bones Nemesis.

Speaking of which, he gets major points for the PG13 blood on those horns, which look evil as all heck. You don't want to be caught out alone on the icy tundra, that's for sure!

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys


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Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068795)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 21st, 2020 @ 10:17pm CDT
I love the Big Convoy mold as much as the next guy. I currently own four of it as of this typing, even.

But Car Robots Black Convoy still holds the #1 spot for me as far as Black Convoy/Nemesis Prime is concerned. Such a gorgeous deco on such an exquisite mold.

Also, I gotta give a shout-out to the two progenitors of the "black evil Optimus doppelganger" concept: Onyx Primal and Copy Convoy. ;)^
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068797)
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on June 21st, 2020 @ 10:44pm CDT
I've never liked the colour scheme on the robot mode of the Mammoth Nemesis Prime. Even though he's technically a Maximal, give me Black Big Convoy any day.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068803)
Posted by PerfectVision on June 22nd, 2020 @ 1:06am CDT
The BH version has a very small head.With the POTP one,the backpack has the same color,same for Skywarp 2015,the BEAST FIRE Predaking is worst but i have painted his horns in orange,they aren't identicals,red at center.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068805)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 22nd, 2020 @ 2:27am CDT
My list:

5. Nucleon Quest Optimus Prime
4. Legends EX Black Convoy
3. PoTP Nemesis Prime
2. Car Robots Black Convoy
1. MP-10B

Honorable mention: Armada Nemesis Prime
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068809)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 22nd, 2020 @ 4:18am CDT
I would push RiD Scourge to the top slot, and toss one of the other slots for a tie between these two:
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Seriously Will, why didn't these get even a mention?

Nucleon Quest Super Convoy might displace another of those listed in my book. He would at least get an honorable mention.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068814)
Posted by ausbot on June 22nd, 2020 @ 5:40am CDT
All I want is a g1 nemesis prime from the original optimus prime, yes I know there is a ko but I don't collect ko's
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068818)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2020 @ 8:09am CDT
Why are people mentioning Nucleon Quest Super Convoy? He may have the deco, but he's not a Nemesis Prime.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068820)
Posted by megatronus on June 22nd, 2020 @ 8:25am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I would push RiD Scourge to the top slot, and toss one of the other slots for a tie between these two:
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Seriously Will, why didn't these get even a mention?

Nucleon Quest Super Convoy might displace another of those listed in my book. He would at least get an honorable mention.

None of these are Nemesis Primes.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068824)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 22nd, 2020 @ 10:00am CDT
Great list as always, Will! I like the choices made for each spot, and pretty much every choice is there for me. My list is slightly different, however.

5) POTP Nemesis Prime
4) Legends EX Black Convoy
3) Masterpiece MP10-B
2) Universe Nemesis Mammoth
1) RID Scourge
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068827)
Posted by TulioDude on June 22nd, 2020 @ 10:34am CDT
Nice list!

Ihe Power of the Primes toy has the best look in vehicle mode,since there is the robot parts in the trailer blend in more than normal.

Shout-out to Armada for giving us the Nemesis Prime name. ;)^

Day 174 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068832)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2020 @ 11:04am CDT
TulioDude wrote:Shout-out to Armada for giving us the Nemesis Prime name. ;)^
A shout-out to all of those who pioneered the Nemesis Prime concept. :D

Beast Wars Onyx Primal: The first evil back Optimus doppelganger

Beast Wars II Copy Convoy: The first one to appear in animation

Car Robots Black Convoy: The first one to give us the Japanese name "Black Convoy" and the first (and only) one to have a major role in animation

Armada Nemesis Prime: The first one to give us the English name "Nemesis Prime" and the first to be Unicronian in origin

Alternators Nemesis Prime/Binaltech Black Convoy: The first one to mesh the English "Nemesis Prime" and Japanese "Black Convoy" names together into referring to the same concept, which has mostly become the standard to this day
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068833)
Posted by carytheone on June 22nd, 2020 @ 11:05am CDT
1. PotP NemmyP - It's just such a fun mold/toy with some amazing head sculpts and cool accessories (especially Giza).

2. Siege Nemesis Prime
3. Legends Black Convoy

4. T30 Nemesis Prime "a pocket full of evil"

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I've always dug this mold and it's IDW stylings.

5. TF Prime Arms Micron Nemesis Prime

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I know this Nemesis was just a human controlled robot, but he was a formidable opponent and I feel that still fits the bill. It's a mold that doesn't get a lot of love, but I still feel that it's great.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068846)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 22nd, 2020 @ 12:35pm CDT
Mammoth nemesis Prime, the Japanese Black Convoy, and Funpub's version will always be my favorites. Maybe one day I'll want a newer, eviller looking one, but that ay hasn't come yet.

I actually took apart the Japanese G2 Black Convoy and put laser rod Prime's electronics in there to recreate the effect. He was actually remolded to make this stupidly difficult.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068866)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 22nd, 2020 @ 2:14pm CDT
I have a shocking confession to make... I have no Nemesis Primes... Though I'm looking at Scourge to be my first
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068889)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 22nd, 2020 @ 5:49pm CDT
megatronus wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I would push RiD Scourge to the top slot, and toss one of the other slots for a tie between these two:
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Seriously Will, why didn't these get even a mention?

Nucleon Quest Super Convoy might displace another of those listed in my book. He would at least get an honorable mention.

None of these are Nemesis Primes.
Fair point.. I got confused by the thread title, because Will didn't start a new thread even though a Nemesis Prime-specific list isn't a straight update of the list that started this thread.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068916)
Posted by RacerCheetor on June 22nd, 2020 @ 7:58pm CDT
It's great that a Beast Wars mold is the first. 8-)

I would have exchanged positions 5 and 2, the LG-EX is an excellent remastered mold of Scourge.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068917)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 22nd, 2020 @ 8:07pm CDT
RacerCheetor wrote:It's great that a Beast Wars mold is the first. 8-)

I would have exchanged positions 5 and 2, the LG-EX is an excellent remastered mold of Scourge.
Eh. It's cool and all, but it's still an undersize imitation that's missing features.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068918)
Posted by adamage1 on June 22nd, 2020 @ 8:13pm CDT
Siege Nemesis Prime and MP-10B both surpass anything on this list, and it’s not even close. It’s preposterous neither of them were included.
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Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068922)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 22nd, 2020 @ 8:57pm CDT
Ha ha ha no. SIEGE isn't even a contender with some of the others out there (ESPECIALLY the likes of RiD Scourge). The only figure SIEGE Nemmy would rank at all higher than is United Black Convoy.
MP-10B is alright, but he's just "MP-10 in the color scheme" so LGEX Black Convoy edges ahead of him.
Re: Top 5 Best Nemesis Prime / Scourge Transformers Toys (2068923)
Posted by william-james88 on June 22nd, 2020 @ 9:21pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:MP-10B is alright, but he's just "MP-10 in the color scheme" so LGEX Black Convoy edges ahead of him.


Yeah, that's what I felt. It's also what I feel about the movie molds you presented earlier. The movie toy I was contemplating though was this one since while it happens to be the best version (deco wise) of a good mold, it's also a representation of an actual movie verse Nemesis Prime.

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But yeah not a fan of simple redecos of G1 Primes being given a Nemesis/Scourge paint job since Nemesis/Scourge never was G1 prime in black and teal until it became the defacto lazy redeco. And you can tell it doesn't work since without extra parts like tall shoulders or the like, you have less areas to give teal highlights.

By comparison, we can look at the examples I used like the one from Universe or Transformers Go where the designers had fun seeing how they could use that teal and make the colour scheme more unique rather than just a black Prime.

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