Toy Fair 2014 Coverage - The Loyal Subjects Vinyl Figurines Wave 2

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Here's something different from the slew of images we've been seeing so far. Site owner Seibertron has been chatting to The Loyal Subjects, the producers of super deformed vinyl figurines - and was able to take a shot of the upcoming wave 2! Check out the image below, featuring Grimlock, Snarl, Slug, Mirage, Prowl, Sideswipe, Shockwave, Optimus Prime, Dirge, Thrust, Shrapnel, Skywarp and Bluestreak.

Credit(s): The Loyal Subjects

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Posted by Va'al on February 16th, 2014 @ 3:39pm CST

Remember when we reported about the very first image of Drift from Transformers: Age of Extinction, courtesy of Funko Pop! statuettes? Well, Seibertron has spotted those figures again, and took a photo of the painted versions of Optimus Prime and Bumblebee at the Toy Fair! Chek it out below.

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Posted by REMINATOR on February 16th, 2014 @ 6:00pm CST

And if you guys are still at NYC, head to Toy Tokyo Store for an exclusive Loyal Subject Ultra Magnus. The rest of it will be available at Loyal Subject online on Feb.22. Just got mine today.

loyal subject UMb.jpg

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Posted by Sabrblade on February 16th, 2014 @ 9:20pm CST

Regarding those One Step Changer toys that everyone here seems to be ridiculing, I've seen YouTube videos of how they work and...

...the switchblade comparison is actually pretty spot on. You literally hold the figure by a certain piece in either mode, make a single swift motion with your arm, and the figure auto-converts instantaneously with the motion of your arm just like a switchblade!

Though, Grimlock's one-step transformation, however, is a bit longer as, instead of flailing him with your arm like the others, you hold two of his parts with both of your hand and spin him around on a horizontal axis like a towel or a big piece of cloth. His requires two hands to perform since he's bigger and bulkier (and I'm not talking about the giant Chomp and Stomp figure).

It's honestly kinda cool and clever, and most of all, FUN-looking!

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Posted by Ultra Markus on February 16th, 2014 @ 10:55pm CST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ANMBA5mV7s
that kind of takes the fun out of the puzzle solving part that changing from vehicle to robot
is all about! today's kids will probably like it, as they want everything right now and don't want to work for it, these toys will fit perfectly

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Posted by lowman_x on February 17th, 2014 @ 6:01am CST

I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but the Evasion Mission (G1-esque) Prime's box art is Prime as the beat up faded flames truck mode that we saw in photos months ago.

How sure are we that the silver and black truck is going to be Galvatron?

I like the Jetfire, just don't like the bot mode's chest canopy being viewable underneath when in jet mode.

Does anyone have any idea how many of these lines (particularly Generations) we'll be seeing in Australia? Because I'd love to get my hands on a number of them deluxes and voyagers...

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Posted by Mindmaster on February 17th, 2014 @ 6:15am CST

lowman_x wrote:I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but the Evasion Mission (G1-esque) Prime's box art is Prime as the beat up faded flames truck mode that we saw in photos months ago.

Well, it's kinda obvious, since this is the only flat-nosed truck that matches that truck. :razz:

How sure are we that the silver and black truck is going to be Galvatron?

If Hasbro says it's Galvatron, it's Galvatron.

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Posted by durroth on February 17th, 2014 @ 1:35pm CST

is there any difference between wave 2 grimlock and wave 1 grimlock?

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Posted by craggy on February 17th, 2014 @ 3:52pm CST

durroth wrote:is there any difference between wave 2 grimlock and wave 1 grimlock?

I think they're different.

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Posted by Sabrblade on February 17th, 2014 @ 5:02pm CST

durroth wrote:is there any difference between wave 2 grimlock and wave 1 grimlock?

Where's that?

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Posted by Mindmaster on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:09pm CST

All the craziness and excitement of Toy Fair 2014 is beginning to die down, but we're not done with the coverage yet! We also got to take a look at some officially licensed Transformers products as well, including the "MashEm" figurines from the UK Toy Fair, which feature Prime and Age of Extinction characters; figurines from Paladone, featuring characters from Generation One, the live-action films, and Prime; Funko Pop! Age of Extinction Optimus Prime and Bumblebee; even classic-style lunchboxes! Click any of the images to be redirected to our gallery.

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Posted by T-Macksimus on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:43pm CST

That lunchbox is old news. Both versions, Autobot and Decepticon are absolutely kick-ass and well worth the $15.00 USD price tag they had on them at my local comic book shop but they certainly should not be listed as new products.

I'm just disappointed I didn't get one of them for Christmas since I had hinted HEAVILY that Santa should put those under my tree.

The artwork is sweet and they would make great "Book end" pieces on any collectors shelf if you were to get both of them. Being a cynic and overly critical of just about everything it's not often that I would critique and endorse in a positive manner any type of product but I highly recommend these. I'll be picking up both when they come back in stock as I think they will provide excellent storage for the TF cards and other trinkets that will be coming out that I plan on picking up instead of throwing money at the craptacular figures that they are producing this year.

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Posted by skidflap on February 17th, 2014 @ 8:59pm CST

Anyone notice the artwork behind the mini figures. Looks like crosshairs :-?

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Posted by Manterax Prime on February 17th, 2014 @ 10:26pm CST

skidflap wrote:Anyone notice the artwork behind the mini figures. Looks like crosshairs

Let's see, Cape: Check, Goggles: Check, Green: Check.
Yup, that's Crosshairs back there, photobombing of course.

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Posted by skidflap on February 17th, 2014 @ 10:36pm CST

Manterax Prime wrote:
skidflap wrote:Anyone notice the artwork behind the mini figures. Looks like crosshairs

Let's see, Cape: Check, Goggles: Check, Green: Check.
Yup, that's Crosshairs back there, photobombing of course.

Figured.

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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 18th, 2014 @ 12:48am CST

THEY GOT DEVASTATORS HEAD WRONG ON THE LUNCHBOX! RIOT! RIIIIOOOOOOOOOT!

That's an awesome lunchbox. If I collected such things I might grab it.

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Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2014 @ 8:35am CST

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:THEY GOT DEVASTATORS HEAD WRONG ON THE LUNCHBOX! RIOT! RIIIIOOOOOOOOOT!

They did?

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Posted by ScoutBumblebee on February 18th, 2014 @ 9:28am CST

Here are some more shots from The Loyal Subjects, who produce super deformed vinyl figures. These shots are from their wave 2 figures, featuring Grimlock, Snarl, Slug, Mirage, Prowl, Sideswipe, Shockwave, Optimus Prime with Energy Axe, Dirge, Thrust, Shrapnel, Skywarp and a purple version of the Prowl mold...and 8" Shockwave. Check out some of the images below, and click on any picture to check out the whole gallery.

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Posted by BERSEKAEL on February 18th, 2014 @ 10:59am CST

Is frustrating looking at all those classic g1 new toy lines coming over and over, but my legends/legion collection is still incomplete due to lack of production, even after 6 years when they started it with jazz and g2 megatron tank form... i quite dont unerstant their philosophy to never accomplish one line.

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Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2014 @ 4:51pm CST

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toy_Fair_2014

According to Mark Weber, the reason the Age of Extinction pteranodon is Strafe and not Swoop is because the two-headed design was deemed to be too much of a departure from traditional depictions of Swoop.

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Posted by Noideaforaname on February 18th, 2014 @ 6:16pm CST

Huh. I wonder how they determine what is and isn't "too much of a departure". Having two heads is a bit tame compared to some of the other changes, not just in Movieverse but all over the franchise.

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Posted by Autobot032 on February 18th, 2014 @ 9:11pm CST

Well, what a weekend that was, eh? Everything from Age Of Extinction to Rescue Bots and everything in between! Some good stuff is coming our way this year, and there's a little bit of something for everyone.

Whether you're a kid or a kid at heart, this is your year! From G1 homages in Generations, to Optimus Prime riding a dinosaur (RIDING A DINOSAUR!) there's a lot of fun in store for the 30th anniversary of our favorite franchise. We hope you'll join us as we celebrate it throughout the year.

But, for now, we'll just leave you with a tidy bundling of the events and round out this news post with updated galleries from Age Of Extinction and Construct Bots.

To recap:

Kre-O

Hero Mashers And Battle Masters

For the first time ever Death's Head!

Generations

Age Of Extinction

Rescue Bots And Mr. Potato Head

Transformers Rise Of The Dark Spark

And...

Misc. Including My Little Pony, Star Wars and more

Onto the galleries mentioned earlier:

Age Of Extinction Construct Bots

Age Of Extinction (Main line)

And finishing with the new packaging shots:

This past weekend you made us your destination for Toy Fair 2014 coverage and we appreciate it! We thank you for making us your source for all things Transformers!

Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

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Posted by welcometothedarksyde on February 18th, 2014 @ 10:35pm CST

Am I the only one mildly disturbed by the fact that Construct-Bots Drift is the only version of him with the right colors? Yeah, I love those mini guys that can ride the dinobots. I can't wait to get my hands on them. Love the new packaging. Between the Masterpieces, Platinum Edition, and Age of Extinction their packaging is looking a lot better than it has been from the last couple of years. Happy 30th anniversary! Here's to another great 30 years!

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Posted by Mindmaster on February 18th, 2014 @ 10:37pm CST

welcometothedarksyde wrote:Am I the only one mildly disturbed by the fact that Construct-Bots Drift is the only version of him with the right colors?

Good, I thought I was the only one testifying about Drift's befuddling deco on a majority of his toys.

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Posted by Autobot032 on February 18th, 2014 @ 10:53pm CST

Hasbro finally swayed me. The proto at NYCC was awful, and while this one at Toy Fair isn't perfect, the production figure is certainly far better than I expected. (I think a lot of people will admit it's at least better than what was shown at NYCC.)

The "skirt" pieces having movement and folding tighter against the sides instead of being a straight up shellformer is great. I'm still not a fan of the backpack. I think they could've folded it down a bit more at the very least. Like swivel the wheels in and push the gas tanks up a bit. While that won't get rid of the backpack, it would certainly cut down on it a good deal.

Still, I'm impressed. I'll buy it. It's definitely leaps and bounds better than the First Edition crap fest. Good grief.

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Posted by Noideaforaname on February 18th, 2014 @ 11:35pm CST

Those package bios are reeaaaally boring.

Sabrblade wrote:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toy_Fair_2014

Read thru this, a few thoughts:
- There's a ridiculous amount of Autobots in the AoE line, and very few Decepticons.
- Kre-O becoming a TRU exclusive makes me sad.
- The number of dinosaur-related product is obscene. Kinda surprised they went with it after all the dragons (which are sort of like dinosaurs) last year... yet we couldn't get all the Constructicons during RotF for whatever reasons.
- Kre-O TRU exclusive in the US, no more Beast Hunters in the US, combined with how other recent lines went (i.e. not in the US, but everywhere else) I think we Americans finally have a counter to "but it's so much more expensive here!"

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Posted by Autobot032 on February 18th, 2014 @ 11:39pm CST

Noideaforaname wrote:no more Beast Hunters in the US, combined with how other recent lines went (i.e. not in the US, but everywhere else) I think we Americans finally have a counter to "but it's so much more expensive here!"

Whoa, whoa, whoa. This part is not true. Beast Hunters is not canceled and no other lines have been canceled, either. The Generations Legends are still coming and Beast Hunters are still active in Wal*Mart's computer system.

Please read the news headlines for more information.

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Posted by CrimsonPrime on February 18th, 2014 @ 11:44pm CST

Autobot032 wrote:Hasbro finally swayed me. The proto at NYCC was awful, and while this one at Toy Fair isn't perfect, the production figure is certainly far better than I expected. (I think a lot of people will admit it's at least better than what was shown at NYCC.)

The "skirt" pieces having movement and folding tighter against the sides instead of being a straight up shellformer is great. I'm still not a fan of the backpack. I think they could've folded it down a bit more at the very least. Like swivel the wheels in and push the gas tanks up a bit. While that won't get rid of the backpack, it would certainly cut down on it a good deal.

Still, I'm impressed. I'll buy it. It's definitely leaps and bounds better than the First Edition crap fest. Good grief.

Oh yeah because "accuracy" is always crap right? Honestly I cant see why people hate the First Edition so much. I bought it and other than the backpack and lack of articulation, the figure is awesome. The detailing of the plastic is much much more better than any Masterpiece I bought(And certainly much better than this Leader class figure), the paint apps look much better than the Leader class and honestly even the robot mode proportions look much better. The chroming looks much better than the plain silver and the head sculpt is just pure awesomeness

And yet here you are claiming that the First Edition figure is "Crap fest" and that the Leader class is "Leaps and bounds better". Please go check your eyesight sir or perhaps it's a brain issue? Just go see a doctor. Honestly speaking.

Fans are just haters I guess. Here Hasbro is trying to make a Movieverse figure look as accurate as possible to the actual on-screen Optimus Prime and of course fans still hate them because of the backpack =_=... I guess they just dont realize how hard it is to make a Movieverse figure look as accurate as possible.

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Posted by 0ptimu5_prim3 on February 18th, 2014 @ 11:48pm CST

Someone saw this about Galvatron dead?

https://twitter.com/0ptimu5_prim3/status/435941784569401344/photo/1/large

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Posted by Autobot032 on February 18th, 2014 @ 11:56pm CST

CrimsonPrime wrote:Oh yeah because "accuracy" is always crap right? Honestly I cant see why people hate the First Edition so much. I bought it and other than the backpack and lack of articulation, the figure is awesome. The detailing of the plastic is much much more better than any Masterpiece I bought(And certainly much better than this Leader class figure), the paint apps look much better than the Leader class and honestly even the robot mode proportions look much better. The chroming looks much better than the plain silver and the head sculpt is just pure awesomeness

Taking my opinion personally? Alrighty, then. (Not sure why, but... *shrugs*)
I fail to see how the First Edition is so accurate. Neither the main line figure or the First Edition are completely accurate. Both have ridiculous amount of backpack.

CrimsonPrime wrote:And yet here you are claiming that the First Edition figure is "Crap fest" and that the Leader class is "Leaps and bounds better". Please go check your eyesight sir or perhaps it's a brain issue? Just go see a doctor. Honestly speaking.

Getting real personal, now. Again, not sure why. It's certainly not necessary, nor is it welcome here. "How To Win Friends And Influence People" is a real book, find it and read it, learn from it. There's no need to be rude and offensive whilst offering your opinion on a product. Getting personal over an action figure, especially when a post wasn't aimed at you, is for lack of a better word, ridiculous.

As for it being a crap fest, I go by what others have experienced first hand:

- Hollow feeling and very light weight.
- Chrome rubbing off and fading.
- Weapons aren't always painted, and it's pretty much a game of chance to end up with painted ones as many people have come forward to complain about their weapons lacking paint apps. To the point that Amazon has begun reviewing the figure and pulled the regular packaging version from sale as of right now. Only their frustration free packaging version is available. (which makes no sense to me, since it's only the packaging that's changed, not the figure or it's accessories inside.)

I've heard several people, including a respected TF reviewer say it's not worth the money. With complaints that are legit, I've seen a specimen where the chrome rubbed off, and multiple cases of this all happening, why would I find it to be a superior figure? I might as well save $15-20.00 and buy a slightly more intricate version of the character, with less chrome to worry about!

CrimsonPrime wrote:Fans are just haters I guess. Here Hasbro is trying to make a Movieverse figure look as accurate as possible to the actual on-screen Optimus Prime and of course fans still hate them because of the backpack =_=... I guess they just dont realize how hard it is to make a Movieverse figure look as accurate as possible.

It's unfair to assume that all fans are "haters" blanket assumptions like that are offensive and can lead to problems. Please don't use labels when speaking of others, nor should you speak for them. You wouldn't like it if they did it to you, don't do it to them.

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Posted by User897 on February 19th, 2014 @ 4:31am CST

You hit the proverbial nail right on the head, Autobot032. Thanks for posting that.

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Posted by Sabrblade on February 19th, 2014 @ 7:43am CST

0ptimu5_prim3 wrote:Someone saw this about Galvatron dead?

https://twitter.com/0ptimu5_prim3/status/435941784569401344/photo/1/large

The link is dead.

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Posted by 0ptimu5_prim3 on February 19th, 2014 @ 11:50am CST

Here is

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Posted by GuyIncognito on February 19th, 2014 @ 12:01pm CST

Well, based on one crummy screengrab and a suspended twitter account, it's obvious that Galvatron is dead. It's not like Transformers ever APPEAR to be dead but then get revived or brought back somehow. There's no precedent for that, right?

>:oP

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Posted by Noideaforaname on February 19th, 2014 @ 12:05pm CST

Could be that Galvy's dead there.
Could be that Optimus got shot right before he could deal the final blow.
Could be a generic that reuses Galvy's foot (a bunch reuse Blackout's head, for example).
Could be a lot of things.

On the other hand, the ads for DotM did blatantly show Starscream and Shockwave's deaths, so I wouldn't be that surprised if they're doing the same with Galvatron.

Autobot032 wrote:Whoa, whoa, whoa. This part is not true. Beast Hunters is not canceled and no other lines have been canceled, either. The Generations Legends are still coming and Beast Hunters are still active in Wal*Mart's computer system.

Please read the news headlines for more information.

I'll believe it when I see them in stores.

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Posted by GuyIncognito on February 19th, 2014 @ 12:11pm CST

Noideaforaname wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Whoa, whoa, whoa. This part is not true. Beast Hunters is not canceled and no other lines have been canceled, either. The Generations Legends are still coming and Beast Hunters are still active in Wal*Mart's computer system.

Please read the news headlines for more information.

I'll believe it when I see them in stores.

Me too. There have been waves in the past that weren't officially canceled, but simply never showed up in stores. Especially later waves at the end of lines, which stores never order because they have no room on the shelves that are filled with unsold figures from the early waves. Sometimes they're not "officially" cancelled, but if they only show up in a few stores and most people can't find them, then it's effectively the same as being cancelled.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 19th, 2014 @ 12:19pm CST

GuyIncognito wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Whoa, whoa, whoa. This part is not true. Beast Hunters is not canceled and no other lines have been canceled, either. The Generations Legends are still coming and Beast Hunters are still active in Wal*Mart's computer system.

Please read the news headlines for more information.

I'll believe it when I see them in stores.

Me too. There have been waves in the past that weren't officially canceled, but simply never showed up in stores. Especially later waves at the end of lines, which stores never order because they have no room on the shelves that are filled with unsold figures from the early waves. Sometimes they're not "officially" cancelled, but if they only show up in a few stores and most people can't find them, then it's effectively the same as being cancelled.

For all it's worth, Hasbro has said the latest wave of Generations Legends was under-ordered by retailers, and Beast Hunters seems to be biting the dust when it comes to the Deluxes and Cyberverse Classes. Hasbro is looking into a second run of Swerve and Cosmos, while investigating other venues for Beast Hunters.

That would mean they're not canceled, but merely postponed until deals have been finalised.

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Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 19th, 2014 @ 12:26pm CST

i do like the AoE packaging but the toys suck, either the figure is good but theres no paint or the paint is good & the figure sucks. I hate yhr movies but ive always found at least one figure that was good, doesnt look like that this time around. Just have to wait & see what the next waves offer. Was there any talk on pricing? I dont see anything on the displays talking about release date or price points. Also have we found out yet who that silver cabover is? My money is on galvatron

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Posted by GuyIncognito on February 19th, 2014 @ 12:31pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
For all it's worth, Hasbro has said the latest wave of Generations Legends was under-ordered by retailers

The numerous Generations Legends warming the pegs at every store in my area seem to suggest otherwise.

If their only concern is that retailers won't order enough, then why not just sell them through HTS.com?

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 19th, 2014 @ 1:04pm CST

GuyIncognito wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
For all it's worth, Hasbro has said the latest wave of Generations Legends was under-ordered by retailers

The numerous Generations Legends warming the pegs at every store in my area seem to suggest otherwise.

If their only concern is that retailers won't order enough, then why not just sell them through HTS.com?

The latest wave meaning Cosmos and Swerve. If the wave before doesn't move, well, no need to order more, right?

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Posted by GuyIncognito on February 19th, 2014 @ 1:10pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The latest wave meaning Cosmos and Swerve. If the wave before doesn't move, well, no need to order more, right?

Either way, the result is the same. Whether it's because retailers didn't order the early waves (no demand) or because they ordered too much of the early waves (no shelf space), there's often some reason for Hasbro to not release the later waves and for stores not to order them. That's why we shouldn't count on these Gen Legends ever coming out.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 19th, 2014 @ 1:14pm CST

GuyIncognito wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The latest wave meaning Cosmos and Swerve. If the wave before doesn't move, well, no need to order more, right?

Either way, the result is the same. Whether it's because retailers didn't order the early waves (no demand) or because they ordered too much of the early waves (no shelf space), there's often some reason for Hasbro to not release the later waves and for stores not to order them. That's why we shouldn't count on these Gen Legends ever coming out.

At least not for the time being. Maybe at the end of the year we'll see special discounted versions at TJ Maxx and Five Below :lol:

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Posted by Whitemest on February 19th, 2014 @ 3:16pm CST

Ya know.. i gotta say, those grimlock figures, ALL of them from AoE look like ass.. i usually try to buy every incarnation of Ratchet and Grimlock, but i have very very little interest in picking up any class of grimlock for this movie...:-\

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Posted by K2vox on February 19th, 2014 @ 3:31pm CST

I'm really actually very happy and surprised with how much I am liking the non-simplified generations movie line toys. I was really feeling like I'd be disappointed, but these make me look forward to the new movie so much more now. I just hope that they'll put in the line the toys from the previous movie line that didn't make it out. Leadfoot and Soundwave, I'm looking at you. I know WHY they made the Dinobots those colors, because if they were all just charcoal grey like in the movie, they'd look pretty bland, but I agree with other comments that it makes them look like Beast Hunters predacons. I still love them though. Slag was always my favorite. EXCUSE ME. lol.

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Posted by Mindmaster on February 19th, 2014 @ 3:50pm CST

GuyIncognito wrote:...it's obvious that Galvatron is dead.

I'm going to be optimistic and say he's taking a dirt nap. :grin:

...Aww, who am I kidding? Galvy is so dead.

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Posted by Deathscythetransform on February 19th, 2014 @ 3:56pm CST

all I can say is that too simple the toys are, the most boring they are.

I said it once, I'll say it again: transformers are 3 toys in one: an action figure, a vehicle (or object) and a puzzle. the puzzle makes the whole toy entertaining or boring.

Quite frankly, some of the deluxes look good. not excellent, but good.
At least there is a leader grimlock out there that has Some steps to transform him, instead of the one step thingy.

Optimus prime is the biggest lackluster of them all. The truck mode is absolutely gorgeous. the robot mode isn't good. Hell, the G1 themed one looks better than the leader class!

well I'll be very selective with this line... and with all that simplified crap they are pulling on us, goddamn it! we can all kiss the Human Alliance thing goodbye! :HEADHURTS:

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Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on February 20th, 2014 @ 1:42am CST

Deathscythetransform wrote:we can all kiss the Human Alliance thing goodbye!

Yeah, there were some excellent TF's in that line. I've got Jazz, Barricade and Bee, and the look awesome (Bee to a lesser degree).

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Posted by K2vox on February 20th, 2014 @ 7:11pm CST

Hey Guys! Anyone that was there that was able to get a better look at that MP Grimlock, can you tell me if the teeth were worn down like for the US release, or if they're like the sharp Japanese ones? Thanks

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Posted by skidflap on February 20th, 2014 @ 9:06pm CST

"white hot dino rage" :michaelbay:

describes slag/slug in a nutshell. :lol:

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Posted by Cyberpath on February 21st, 2014 @ 2:19am CST

ScoutBumblebee wrote:

Now that's interesting. I saw it on the site's banner and had to check it out. The truck is a classic. This is just a one-off toy though right? Not something that will appear in the new film?
They should have used his iconic alt mode and iconic face in the movies, to go with his iconic voice..

Not familiar with Size Class, how big or small is a "Leader Class" toy next to a Masterpiece?

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Posted by Autobot032 on February 21st, 2014 @ 3:03am CST

Cyberpath wrote:
ScoutBumblebee wrote:
Now that's interesting. I saw it on the site's banner and had to check it out. The truck is a classic. This is just a one-off toy though right? Not something that will appear in the new film?

In the film, Optimus takes on the form of a flatnose semi with flame deco and extensive rust. This toy is Hasbro's way of giving back, I think. G1deco, G1 style alt mode. I'm sold.

Cyberpath wrote:They should have used his iconic alt mode and iconic face in the movies, to go with his iconic voice..

Well, not much we can do now. What's done is done. This is as close as we're going to get.

Cyberpath wrote:Not familiar with Size Class, how big or small is a "Leader Class" toy next to a Masterpiece?

This figure ^ is Voyager Class. The chrome one standing next to Grimlock is the Leader Class figure. Most Leader Class figures stand about as tall as MP-10. Or around Soundwave's height. In that area.

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