Toy Fair 2018 - Transformers Power of the Primes Predaking Revealed #HasbroToyFair #NYTF

...Oh.

That isn't good.

Black Hat wrote:...Oh.

That isn't good.

You’re right...ITS AWESOME AND I CANT WAIT!!

-grabs popcorn to have while watching people complain about the hands and waist and accusations of being too blocky-

Is there something wrong with preds left arm? It looks like it's bent at an odd angle. Any pictures of the Prime master that goes with it?

I don't mind him. He's definitely slimmed down since his G1 days, which makes me wonder if Hasbro is now into body shaming (considering poor Moonracer and her Prime Master gimmick)

Predaking looks great, but where is his sword, he needs his sword.

Randomhero wrote:

Black Hat wrote:...Oh.

That isn't good.

You’re right...ITS AWESOME AND I CANT WAIT!!

-grabs popcorn to have while watching people complain about the hands and waist and accusations of being too blocky-

But it isn't good at all. The individual robots and beasts look like trash, the combined mode is a mess proportionally, there's stickers everywhere because apparently tampographs ain't in the budget anymore, the fingers are inexcusable for that size, and there isn't even a sword.

Generations is dead.

But hey, at least the Studio Series looks good.

Updated!

After seeing Hasbros official pics of Predaking, I retract my earlier statement.

It looks like they've modelled him on the Kre-O version. And I don't know how they did it, but they've made the individual modes blockier than G1.

The toy does indeed seem to be missing a sword. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising. None of the PotP combiners have had dedicated weapons so far. This may just be the direction Hasbro decided to go.

So is this Onyx exclusive to Predaking or is this our only Onyx and we wont get one with a shell?

I like these, I'd say they're on par with what we've gotten from the rest of Prime Wars. They aren't MPs, we should have always expected beasts just as unarticulated as Alpha Trion. After what Hasbro did to Devastator this feels like an improvement. I do hope Takara Tomy repackages him for Unite Warriors being a Titan (like they did with Trypticon for Legends) and toss in some weapons (like they did for Devastator).

Emerje

Hmm.

After Devastator, this is pretty much what I expected. I'm not particularly wowed, but I bet King-mode will be solid and fun.

Emerje wrote:So is this Onyx exclusive to Predaking or is this our only Onyx and we wont get one with a shell?

I like these, I'd say they're on par with what we've gotten from the rest of Prime Wars. They aren't MPs, we should have always expected beasts just as unarticulated as Alpha Trion. After what Hasbro did to Devastator this feels like an improvement. I do hope Takara Tomy repackages him for Unite Warriors being a Titan (like they did with Trypticon for Legends) and toss in some weapons (like they did for Devastator).

Emerje

That was a product of the time. If they’re not doing it for any of the power of primes figure they’re not gonna do it for predaking. It’s not happening. If it shares the gimmick of enigmas and primemasters you can guarantee it’ll be in the same box and be the same toy. Just like how it’s been going and just like Trypticon was.

Randomhero wrote:

Emerje wrote:So is this Onyx exclusive to Predaking or is this our only Onyx and we wont get one with a shell?

I like these, I'd say they're on par with what we've gotten from the rest of Prime Wars. They aren't MPs, we should have always expected beasts just as unarticulated as Alpha Trion. After what Hasbro did to Devastator this feels like an improvement. I do hope Takara Tomy repackages him for Unite Warriors being a Titan (like they did with Trypticon for Legends) and toss in some weapons (like they did for Devastator).

Emerje

That was a product of the time. If they’re not doing it for any of the power of primes figure they’re not gonna do it for predaking. It’s not happening. If it shares the gimmick of enigmas and primemasters you can guarantee it’ll be in the same box and be the same toy. Just like how it’s been going and just like Trypticon was.

And it's these lack of weapons that will finally push me into getting 3P add-ons.

I'm not really impressed, but I don't hate it. These displays do tend to be inaccurate, so I'm not too worried about small details. He seems like he's too slim, maybe because Razorclaw's torso mode is mistransformed? It seems he got stretched out while the limbs became more compact. I reserve judgment until I see clearer pictures or a video review. I also want to see comparison shots with the other combiners, especially Devy.

Official image:

Those Predacon altmodes give me actual physical pain.

I try not to make negative posts, but seriously it’s been 34 years, you’d think they could make something other than bricks on sticks.

have to say im not impressed . im looking at my G1 predaking on my desk every day and he's a far beefier affair than this effort.

but even on simple things, wheres the spiked knuckle dusters on his fists?

the display is a dark nightmare of garish colours so maybe its taking away from his look but considering how far engineering has come on TF its sad to say how lack luster these guys look. i mean its essentially the same thing - voyager sized figs that combine - and the ancient one does it better.

im FAR more interested in abominus at this stage (and picking up that studios grimlock figure, christ what a fig THAT is. i keep hearing hound from the G1 cartoon in my head "that ones a walking fang factory!" )

more and more im wondering if they missed a trick and shouldnt have made the dinobots the voyager combining fig and gone the deluxe/voyager route with the preds.

ah well least he's coming out for those that didnt get the reissue. i dont want to seem nonplussed, ive bought more figs in the last 2yrs than the last 20.

SureShot18 wrote:Those Predacon altmodes give me actual physical pain.

I try not to make negative posts, but seriously it’s been 34 years, you’d think they could make something other than bricks on sticks.

I've been thinking about this, and I believe - but this is just me thinking as I've been looking at screen all day while on call with people in the US - that this might be the G1 a small lot of fandom has been asking for.. and the team has tipped too far into.

Meaning they effectively look the same as G1, just with maybe a couple more joints? I liked the general look of Devastator more, that also did a similar thing, but this just feels.. eh.

A couple more joints wouldn't explain that waist line though.

Apparently G1 Predaking was too fat for modern day Hasbro body shaming developers.

Predaking looks better than I expected TBH. Not bothered by the torso or wings being so blocky, or the monojointed fingers. What DOES get me is his lack of a sword, or even spiked knuckles, and how compromised the individual beasts are. Was really hyped about this (loved UW devastator, and the inclusion of Onyx Prime worked well with my headcanon), but now the KO 3P version seems like the better package. Not being a child of the 80s, Hasbro’s g1 toy replication just isn’t hitting home for me.

I'm not bothered by any of it. As usual.

I think he looks fun, and I look forward to having him.

Va'al wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:Those Predacon altmodes give me actual physical pain.

I try not to make negative posts, but seriously it’s been 34 years, you’d think they could make something other than bricks on sticks.

I've been thinking about this, and I believe - but this is just me thinking as I've been looking at screen all day while on call with people in the US - that this might be the G1 a small lot of fandom has been asking for.. and the team has tipped too far into.

Meaning they effectively look the same as G1, just with maybe a couple more joints? I liked the general look of Devastator more, that also did a similar thing, but this just feels.. eh.

Gotta agree with va'al, I think that they went too far in a few places aesthetically. The beast modes look like cartoons, all bulbous and weird, not in keeping with the general aesthetic of the line. Not too mention that his combined mode's head looks like a knock-off upscale of the original, it doesn't look right for how large he is...

Burn wrote:A couple more joints wouldn't explain that waist line though.

Apparently G1 Predaking was too fat for modern day Hasbro body shaming developers.

I was specifically looking at the individual Predacons, but your point also stands!

Similar for Volcanicus, really.

to say something positive its nice to see the shoulder cannons on this fig.

far closer to the comic than the stumpy ones on the original.

Cobotron wrote:I'm not bothered by any of it. As usual.

I think he looks fun, and I look forward to having him.

I obviously don't want to knock it for people who will most definitely enjoy him, just confirming my lack of interest in a potential interesting (to me) figure!

Va'al wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I'm not bothered by any of it. As usual.

I think he looks fun, and I look forward to having him.

I obviously don't want to knock it for people who will most definitely enjoy him, just confirming my lack of interest in a potential interesting (to me) figure!

Yeah, I'm down to lukewarm now, he should've stolen the show, but comes off as a bland uspcaling, I mean, volcandowhat gets spiked knuckles, but the combiner to which those are part of his image doesn't get them? lame...

Credit where credit's due, I think Hasbro and TakaraTomy did a decent job in designing Predaking, especially the potential nightmare that's Razorclaw's Torso Mode. From what I can tell:

- Torox and Headstrong form the whole leg, not just the lower leg.
- Divebomb and Rampage have part of the torso. That unfortunately prove detrimental for Divebomb's Beast Mode. Worth noting is that his upper body is turned inside out for Arm Mode.
- Speaking of being turned inside out, that's the story of PotP Razorclaw's life.

I will freely admit Devastator's construction looked a bit... dodgy to me, and Predaking looks on the same level at first. Eagerly awaiting reviews... and the news that Onyx Prime will get a standalone release as well. He is touted as a "Limited Edition"...

Va'al wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:Those Predacon altmodes give me actual physical pain.

I try not to make negative posts, but seriously it’s been 34 years, you’d think they could make something other than bricks on sticks.

I've been thinking about this, and I believe - but this is just me thinking as I've been looking at screen all day while on call with people in the US - that this might be the G1 a small lot of fandom has been asking for.. and the team has tipped too far into.

Meaning they effectively look the same as G1, just with maybe a couple more joints? I liked the general look of Devastator more, that also did a similar thing, but this just feels.. eh.

Yeah it definitely is how things have been going for the first past few years. You have to wonder how long it can be viable. Regardless, it works but it’s not for me personally. Devastator worked for me, still does too. However these altmodes look terrible to me. And honestly everything else is fine. The bot modes are a lot like the Constucticons, compromised but still good. The combined mode looks pretty good too. It definitely seems that they learned a lot from Devastator. Unfortunately the aesthetics leave me uninterested and a little bored.

And nothing negative towards those that like it, because I really want to like it too.

The way this onyx prime is being labeled, I believe it's similar to the limited edition megatronus that's coming with shuttle blast off. So those not bothered by titan pred and blast off can still get a full release of twelve prime masters...or at least that's my interepatation of it.

Having looked at everything properly...I think I'm glad that I won't be able to get predaking, if you ask me it was a waste of a titan slot considering there was better alternatives to pick from, that being said to those that wish to enjoy him, good luck with the hunt...I want pictures

Six months of complaining then he comes out and it’ll be 50/50 praise and complaints and in a year it’ll be remembered as an awesome figure.

Ladies and genetlemen, I introduce you to the fandom.

Predaking was one of the biggest (literally) reveals from this year's New York Comic Con, and if you need a better look at him, our official galleries of the event and the figure are here to the rescue! In the gallery you'll find images of the individual Predacons, as well as (obviously) their combined form! Take a look at a small selection of images mirrored below, and click on any of them to be taken to the full photo set of the massive combiner!

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Alt modes look pretty spot on, for what they are meant to be, except for razor claw who looks like an elephant with a lion’s head.

It’s interesting that razor claw looks super beefy in lion mode, but ends up super trim in combined mode. Where does all that bulk go?

Maybe a little more carbs in his diet can help out with that ballerina waist.

The Predaking on the show floor seems to be mistransformed. The legs of his arm components are fully extended, whereas they are retracted on the CGI render and box art. It would explain why his arms look so off and why his hands reach all the way down to his knees.

Lore Keeper wrote:The Predaking on the show floor seems to be mistransformed. The legs of his arm components are fully extended, whereas they are retracted on the CGI render and box art. It would explain why his arms look so off and why his hands reach all the way down to his knees.

I like the longer arms - seems to fix his proportions somewhat. Third party hands will definitely go a long way. I'm still not sure about that skinny torso though.

The waist doesn't really bother me. I think the figure looks really cool.

Robots ate my wallet...

And price of Jinbao Predaking goes through the roof. Looks like I'm gonna pass on em. Hopefully he might turn up at Ollie's for $50 then I might pick him up

Easy pass. Just like Devestator, it's too big, and too plain looking.

I like him and I like the fact he’s a boxset. Collecting individual teams is getting tedious. Don’t mind the svelte look... he was quite solder in some depictions though, the toy was pure bulk.

Not as excited about anything in the potp series as I was for CW and TR but I’ll definitely be getting a few inc the dinobots, predaking and the legends toys. But many more figures are a pass than in the other lines

Even the box artwork has his spiked knuckles! Yet the toy's knuckles are flat.

Will Onyx Prime get a Pretender shell, like the ones being released in stores? Initially I passed on them, but I might start picking them up, just for the shells and gunmodes.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Even the box artwork has his spiked knuckles! Yet the toy's knuckles are flat.

Will Onyx Prime get a Pretender shell, like the ones being released in stores? Initially I passed on them, but I might start picking them up, just for the shells and gunmodes.

He should get his own shell in the main line, in fact his detailing may reveal which character... unfortunately I have no idea:



I'm leaning towards Icepick, but I'm open to other suggestions.

Looks like Predaking has been hitting the gym in his time since the G1 days. I guess I'll pick this up at some point. Too bad Takara is doing a copy and paste on all the Hasbro products this time around. It would have been interesting to see what changes they would have made with a Unite Warriors version that would almost definitely include a sword.

I like him. And the Preds sizes individually compared to the Leaders is encouraging. But I will say this Predaking looks a lot leaner than the beefy linebacker Predaking of yore. But I will take something over nothing!

Can he fit a Prime Master in him somewhere or is that for scale?

Flashwave wrote:I like him. And the Preds sizes individually compared to the Leaders is encouraging. But I will say this Predaking looks a lot leaner than the beefy linebacker Predaking of yore. But I will take something over nothing!

Can he fit a Prime Master in him somewhere or is that for scale?

Onyx Prime will be held/stored by Predaking, and in fact only come with Predaking!

Ouch.

Black Hat wrote:
Ouch.

Yikes... the whole leg including the hip!

Guess it won't be so bad as no one is going to be displaying the figures that way round but still...yeesh

Black Hat wrote:
Ouch.

They definitely should've gone the Devastator route and made Razorclaw close to leader size so this wouldn't have happened.

Tell me honestly, guys. Would anyone here have been genuinely upset if they had made Predaking with Razorclaw being at least a little bigger (if not more than a little bigger) than the other four Predacons? Does Razorclaw being exactly the same size as the others really matter than much?

I had guessed at the leg/hip being a part of Tantrum and Headstrong was going to be a thing when I saw some photos where you could partially see something huge and black was tucked into them in beast forms. I wish I tucked in better for bot mode, but not a deal breaker. He'll be king most of the time and I like how Predaking looks still.