Toy Fair US 2015 Coverage - Official Hasbro Images of Transformers Generations Devastator and Constructicons
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Posted by Noideaforaname on February 14th, 2015 @ 10:52pm CST
Posted by acchillyaout on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:10pm CST
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:11pm CST
Posted by Immortal Starscream on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:34pm CST
that being said, over all this is an amazing piece. cant wait to snag this set
Posted by ShardFenix on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:52pm CST
Posted by fenrir72 on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:54pm CST
ShardFenix wrote:So the robot modes are trash...Oh well. Vehicle and combined mode are insane and Im okay with that. He would probably be displayed in only those two anyways.
I assume you could do a better design? Be our guest. Humans! The right of all sentient beings. No pleasing them at all.
Hook's shoulder is kind of a problem with the durability. Hope it won't break. Otherwise, they all look AWESOME updates!
Posted by Henry921 on February 15th, 2015 @ 12:34am CST
Still gonna buy him for that combined mode, though.
Posted by shajaki on February 15th, 2015 @ 12:37am CST
Twitchythe3rd wrote:Long Haul had his shins blown off by a machine gun in the war.
i wonder if he killed fiddy men?
Posted by durroth on February 15th, 2015 @ 1:01am CST
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 15th, 2015 @ 1:13am CST
shajaki wrote:Twitchythe3rd wrote:Long Haul had his shins blown off by a machine gun in the war.
i wonder if he killed fiddy men?
Long Haul would take a bullet for his grandson, but not in the face. That's how he makes his livings.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 15th, 2015 @ 2:00am CST
I need dis.
Posted by Dead Metal on February 15th, 2015 @ 2:00am CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:shajaki wrote:Twitchythe3rd wrote:Long Haul had his shins blown off by a machine gun in the war.
i wonder if he killed fiddy men?
Long Haul would take a bullet for his grandson, but not in the face. That's how he makes his livings.
Long Haul saw the Grim Reaper, and he kicked him in the stones and spit in his eye, and told him it ain't his time yet.
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 15th, 2015 @ 2:19am CST
Posted by DMSL on February 15th, 2015 @ 3:08am CST
The only sad thing is that Mixmaster gets a derpy cabmode again. TFC, Maketoys and now Hasbro are giving him the short end of the stick. I hope they alter him a bit before his release. All of the vehicle modes are very G1 and he looks so futuristic that i don't know what's the front or the back of him to be honest. Maybe he is mistransformed?
Posted by frogbat on February 15th, 2015 @ 3:10am CST
The individual robot modes aren't the best they could be.. Granted. Once I get all conifers I think I'll follow same pattern as my g1 displays... Superion and devy in combined mode.. Stunt icons in individual robots.
I still can't get over as to how close they are to the original robot modes most of these are.
the devy combined mode definitely follows that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts
Posted by donny1975 on February 15th, 2015 @ 5:22am CST
Starsaber468 wrote:Could it be better than...
It will probably be better than Herc size wise and maybe aesthetics wise for gestalt mode...
Then again what perception of what is better will be very subjective from person to person...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2015 @ 7:15am CST
DMSL wrote:The only sad thing is that Mixmaster gets a derpy cabmode again. TFC, Maketoys and now Hasbro are giving him the short end of the stick. I hope they alter him a bit before his release. All of the vehicle modes are very G1 and he looks so futuristic that i don't know what's the front or the back of him to be honest. Maybe he is mistransformed?
Nope, that's how he is. He actually is based on a real type of Cement Truck which seems "reversed" with the drum over the cab, a so-called "front discharge" model instead of the traditional "rear discharge".
Let the dirty jokes commence.
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2015 @ 8:25am CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I gotta say, The Constructicons/Devastator are some of my favorite dudes from G1, and seeing them like this makes me want to switch jobs to something that pays more! Wow. All of them are perfect! Mixmaster is backwards, and I ain't even mad! Longhaul looks like a dumpy (heh heh) little guy and I love it! XD
I need dis.
And plus, with the way they arranged mixmaster on the show floor, people could always just pose him reverse in alt mode and it wouldnt look too bad:
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 15th, 2015 @ 8:46am CST
Other than that, this looks great. I'm In it for Devastator anyway.
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2015 @ 9:43am CST
Posted by Peridot on February 15th, 2015 @ 9:44am CST
Posted by zatara1701 on February 15th, 2015 @ 10:07am CST
And Mixmaster...they have him facing the wrong way on display at Toy Fair and he is based on a REAL WORLD mixer...granted, I had never seen one like it till someone posted a pic on here during the "wheres his cab" debate. My thanks to whomever enlightened us, and bravo, you were spot on brother!!
Posted by Dagon on February 15th, 2015 @ 10:50am CST
fenrir72 wrote:ShardFenix wrote:So the robot modes are trash...Oh well. Vehicle and combined mode are insane and Im okay with that. He would probably be displayed in only those two anyways.
I assume you could do a better design? Be our guest.
Whether you believe this or not, the ability to produce something better is not a prerequisite for not liking something. In other words, I don't have to be capable of designing a better toy to be allowed to not like this one.
Which is fortunate, because I think these look cheap. I don't like the hollow gaps, I really had a good laugh at the elbows on most of these guys, and I think Devastator in general is underwhelming. I thought he looked better in the Nuremburg picture, though, and even then he was not all that impressive. The bots do certainly look like a nice update of the G1 figures though, and Scrapper especially looks nice in robot mode. I think Long Haul looks real sad, but I do realize that it's probably a terrible looking figure in order to satisfy his role in the combined form.
If these were 10-13 bucks separately at retail, I would most likely be all in. For 150 though, it's pretty much an impossible sell for me.
Posted by noctorro on February 15th, 2015 @ 11:48am CST
Love Longhaul, wow, just wow.
Posted by CrankyOldTruck on February 15th, 2015 @ 11:51am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2015 @ 12:11pm CST
Posted by vectorA3 on February 15th, 2015 @ 1:12pm CST
DEVASTATOR!!!!!!!!!
I couldn't help myself. Had to do this. Can you tell I want this guy?
Posted by Optimum Supreme on February 15th, 2015 @ 5:44pm CST
Dagon wrote:fenrir72 wrote:ShardFenix wrote:So the robot modes are trash...Oh well. Vehicle and combined mode are insane and Im okay with that. He would probably be displayed in only those two anyways.
I assume you could do a better design? Be our guest.
Whether you believe this or not, the ability to produce something better is not a prerequisite for not liking something. In other words, I don't have to be capable of designing a better toy to be allowed to not like this one.
Which is fortunate, because I think these look cheap. I don't like the hollow gaps, I really had a good laugh at the elbows on most of these guys, and I think Devastator in general is underwhelming. I thought he looked better in the Nuremburg picture, though, and even then he was not all that impressive. The bots do certainly look like a nice update of the G1 figures though, and Scrapper especially looks nice in robot mode. I think Long Haul looks real sad, but I do realize that it's probably a terrible looking figure in order to satisfy his role in the combined form.
If these were 10-13 bucks separately at retail, I would most likely be all in. For 150 though, it's pretty much an impossible sell for me.
Well put, particularly the last part. Individually, they seem worth about that much, shame they only come as a high priced "gift set"
Posted by Gearslide on February 15th, 2015 @ 8:31pm CST
Maybe they'll do some paint magic and paint the bridge of Devastator's "shades" the same color as his face, to give him the two-eyed design the G2 toy had.
Also, it's been a long time since I had the G2 Constructicons in hand, but did the individual members have yellow Eyes or Red? I know Devastator had Yellow eyes, but I can't remember what the members had.
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2015 @ 8:42pm CST
Silver, or black with silver face plate.Gearslide wrote:Also, it's been a long time since I had the G2 Constructicons in hand, but did the individual members have yellow Eyes or Red? I know Devastator had Yellow eyes, but I can't remember what the members had.
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2015 @ 9:20pm CST
Posted by zatara1701 on February 15th, 2015 @ 9:49pm CST
Optimum Supreme wrote:Dagon wrote:fenrir72 wrote:ShardFenix wrote:So the robot modes are trash...Oh well. Vehicle and combined mode are insane and Im okay with that. He would probably be displayed in only those two anyways.
I assume you could do a better design? Be our guest.
Whether you believe this or not, the ability to produce something better is not a prerequisite for not liking something. In other words, I don't have to be capable of designing a better toy to be allowed to not like this one.
Which is fortunate, because I think these look cheap. I don't like the hollow gaps, I really had a good laugh at the elbows on most of these guys, and I think Devastator in general is underwhelming. I thought he looked better in the Nuremburg picture, though, and even then he was not all that impressive. The bots do certainly look like a nice update of the G1 figures though, and Scrapper especially looks nice in robot mode. I think Long Haul looks real sad, but I do realize that it's probably a terrible looking figure in order to satisfy his role in the combined form.
If these were 10-13 bucks separately at retail, I would most likely be all in. For 150 though, it's pretty much an impossible sell for me.
Well put, particularly the last part. Individually, they seem worth about that much, shame they only come as a high priced "gift set"
10-13 Bucks?!? Deluxes aren't even 10-13 bucks (such a random amount ). Hell, I honestly don't remember a time when anything Voyager size was in that price range.
Of course, we are all entitled to our opinions, but if someone doesn't like it can't we leave it as that instead of a long drawn out diatribe that seems intent on sucking the life out of a conversation?
Just a thought...
Posted by SkyWarpt on February 15th, 2015 @ 11:42pm CST
Posted by synapse on February 16th, 2015 @ 2:04am CST
Posted by Desslok2201 on February 16th, 2015 @ 7:26am CST
Posted by fenrir72 on February 16th, 2015 @ 8:13am CST
Desslok2201 wrote:For me, this is the only 'must have' that I saw from the show. There are a few problems, such as Hook's elbows, but for the most part, this looks great. I hated gen. Jetfire because of the hollow areas, but they don't look that bad on the constructicons. The hollow silver thighs can be overlooked and the other hollows look like they might be like that for transformation, which is acceptable. I'm not liking the black hands, though. Those suckers should be purple (and mine will be)
Not an apologist for Hasbro/Tomy. I too hated the non strategically located hollow parts of the arms. WT# were they thinking?!
But, even back in 1988, PM Optimus Prime had a lot of hollow parts too but you didn't notice them because they were hollowed out strategically. So not really surprising.
Just hope we all can manage to get him before the scalpers get to him.
Posted by william-james88 on February 16th, 2015 @ 8:19am CST
fenrir72 wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:For me, this is the only 'must have' that I saw from the show. There are a few problems, such as Hook's elbows, but for the most part, this looks great. I hated gen. Jetfire because of the hollow areas, but they don't look that bad on the constructicons. The hollow silver thighs can be overlooked and the other hollows look like they might be like that for transformation, which is acceptable. I'm not liking the black hands, though. Those suckers should be purple (and mine will be)
Not an apologist for Hasbro/Tomy. I too hated the non strategically located hollow parts of the arms. WT# were they thinking?!
But, even back in 1988, PM Optimus Prime had a lot of hollow parts too but you didn't notice them because they were hollowed out strategically. So not really surprising.
Just hope we all can manage to get him before the scalpers get to him.
I have a feeling this guy will have a much wider distribution than previous exclusives. Hasbro spent extra money making this guy eligible for international distribution with the translations, which hints at a much larger production number. I have a good feeling he'll be more available than even the stateside masterpiece releases have been.
Posted by Desslok2201 on February 16th, 2015 @ 8:20am CST
fenrir72 wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:For me, this is the only 'must have' that I saw from the show. There are a few problems, such as Hook's elbows, but for the most part, this looks great. I hated gen. Jetfire because of the hollow areas, but they don't look that bad on the constructicons. The hollow silver thighs can be overlooked and the other hollows look like they might be like that for transformation, which is acceptable. I'm not liking the black hands, though. Those suckers should be purple (and mine will be)
Not an apologist for Hasbro/Tomy. I too hated the non strategically located hollow parts of the arms. WT# were they thinking?!
But, even back in 1988, PM Optimus Prime had a lot of hollow parts too but you didn't notice them because they were hollowed out strategically. So not really surprising.
Just hope we all can manage to get him before the scalpers get to him.
Amen to that. I'll pay Hasbro $150, but I'll be damned if I'll pay $250-300 to some scalper for this. Maybe they'll saturate the market like they did with Metroplex to make the scalpers no longer an issue
Posted by vectorA3 on February 16th, 2015 @ 8:31am CST
Posted by Cobotron on February 16th, 2015 @ 8:42am CST
I like your optimism!william-james88 wrote:I have a feeling this guy will have a much wider distribution than previous exclusives. Hasbro spent extra money making this guy eligible for international distribution with the translations, which hints at a much larger production number. I have a good feeling he'll be more available than even the stateside masterpiece releases have been.
vectorA3 wrote: Kind of glad I waited and didn't spring for a 3rd party Devy.
People always ask why I don't have any 3rd Party stuff, and this is really why. Patience. I'm not anti 3P. I think there is alot of cool stuff out there. I've just learned to wait. All these new combiners are great proof of this.
Posted by robotmel on February 16th, 2015 @ 9:09am CST
SkyWarpt wrote:I think it's funny...I keep hearing scale issues with Devy. Personally, I think Devy is the only correctly scaled combiner, not complaining though. Can't wait for preorder for him.
Hey scale-nerds! Oh, wait a minute, that's ME!
If this official Combiner Wars Devastator is around a foot and a half and the other Combiner Wars Gestalts (Superion, Menasor, Defensor etc) are around a foot, this Devy is going to look a bit silly alongside his combining buddies!
For me, if these 'Voyager' figures had the usual sort of engineering we have come to expect, before Hasbro went the way of the 'Upscale', I may have bought this as a display piece whilst I wait for the regular sized Combiner Wars Devy, you know, the one that scales with the rest of the line!!!
Hasbro, Im on to your Devy game. Oh yes!
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 16th, 2015 @ 9:10am CST
Posted by Peridot on February 16th, 2015 @ 10:02am CST
robotmel wrote:SkyWarpt wrote:I think it's funny...I keep hearing scale issues with Devy. Personally, I think Devy is the only correctly scaled combiner, not complaining though. Can't wait for preorder for him.
Hey scale-nerds! Oh, wait a minute, that's ME!
If this official Combiner Wars Devastator is around a foot and a half and the other Combiner Wars Gestalts (Superion, Menasor, Defensor etc) are around a foot, this Devy is going to look a bit silly alongside his combining buddies!
For me, if these 'Voyager' figures had the usual sort of engineering we have come to expect, before Hasbro went the way of the 'Upscale', I may have bought this as a display piece whilst I wait for the regular sized Combiner Wars Devy, you know, the one that scales with the rest of the line!!!
Hasbro, Im on to your Devy game. Oh yes!
He already is in scale. Have you seen how big construction vehicles get? Long Haul, especially, and even then, he's too small.
Posted by Necrien on February 16th, 2015 @ 10:29am CST
Posted by vectorA3 on February 16th, 2015 @ 10:40am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 16th, 2015 @ 10:43am CST
vectorA3 wrote:Watch Hasbro is gonna screw everybody and make the Comic-con version with purple forearms. (I know they're readin this!!! lol)
Ha! But they wont do that.
Posted by vectorA3 on February 16th, 2015 @ 10:47am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 16th, 2015 @ 11:37am CST
Posted by Gearslide on February 16th, 2015 @ 12:19pm CST
vectorA3 wrote:Watch Hasbro is gonna screw everybody and make the Comic-con version with purple forearms. (I know they're readin this!!! lol)
I hope the G2 redeco rumor turns out to be true, and we get Yellow Devastator at Comic Con.
And you KNOW Takara is going to make the Purple hand version with crazy good paint apps.