Toys "R" Us Bankruptcy Filing causing Holiday woes for Toy Companies
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Posted by Sunburnninja on October 25th, 2017 @ 7:08pm CDT
Posted by Nightbeat339 on October 25th, 2017 @ 8:18pm CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 25th, 2017 @ 9:04pm CDT
Sunburnninja wrote:Im pretty sure their prices are taking part in this too, not just TRU
Took the words right out of my mouth, any lose they have is not just because of TRU. High prices alienating people from buying and terrible distribution making people who want to buy unable to is going to lose you money. Just hope its enough to get them to rethink what they're doing otherwise the lose is just going to get bigger.
Posted by fenrir72 on October 25th, 2017 @ 10:56pm CDT
Market forces PEOPLE!
Also, buyer preference now has convenience as a priority over the rush and tumble business model of shopping real time. Stores must adapt to these trends. Mall type models are really taking a hit on this.
For TRU, the confluence of these factors equals...................this!
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 26th, 2017 @ 5:16am CDT
Nightbeat339 wrote:Makes sense. My local TRU only has TLK wave 1, a couple of Triggerhappys and Twinfernos, and some random RiD figures. I've been waiting for them to get the latest waves of Titans Return for months now.
Yeah my nearest Toys R Us only got in wave 4 of Titans Return a short while ago after shelfwarming previous waves for months and TLK stuff hasn't moved past wave 1 even after DVD of the film has been released. I bought my TLK Prime and Barricade from Toys R Us when Wave 1 first came out and would have bought more waves if they had been available to me. As it is I had to get Megatron and Sqweeks elsewhere and recently ordered W3 Bee and Cogman online too.
Posted by william-james88 on October 26th, 2017 @ 9:23am CDT
Sunburnninja wrote:Im pretty sure their prices are taking part in this too, not just TRU
We cant be sure. The revenue lost by less items bought due to price increases could be offset by the increased revenue from higher prices.
Hasbro has economists and actuarial mathematicians to plan prices out, I dont think any of us are qualified to be sure of anything.
Posted by Aimless Misfire on October 26th, 2017 @ 2:27pm CDT
Now they keep raising the prices & can't even get their product into stores. And we're supposed to feel sorry for them. Oh boo hoo!
Posted by william-james88 on October 26th, 2017 @ 3:13pm CDT
Aimless Misfire wrote:Does anybody remember the Gulf war when the gas prices went through the roof? Hasbro blamed the skyrocketing prices of oil for their price hikes. Then the price of oil came back down but Hasbro never lowered their prices.
Now they keep raising the prices & can't even get their product into stores. And we're supposed to feel sorry for them. Oh boo hoo!
I dont think anyone is feeling sorry for them. I feel sorry for the fans with the whole distribution woes. They make no sense for anyone. TRU and Walmart wouuld want wae 2 TLK to be in stores during summer when the film is hot so why not have them there. While it is not Hasbro`s problem to ensure that walamrt stocks the toys once they buy them I feel that its a worthwhile issue they should look into when their vedors make visits.
Posted by RAR on October 27th, 2017 @ 1:17am CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:Sunburnninja wrote:Im pretty sure their prices are taking part in this too, not just TRU
Took the words right out of my mouth, any lose they have is not just because of TRU. High prices alienating people from buying and terrible distribution making people who want to buy unable to is going to lose you money. Just hope its enough to get them to rethink what they're doing otherwise the lose is just going to get bigger.
Indeed High Prices is exactly what is putting me off - it's a bit like the Superlink era where one could buy Japanese toys for less than American ones.
In that now One can buy some imports for less than you can buy something in a Supermarket or if not less such a small difference it's worth the extra couple of quid to get a "free" Headmaster.
For example I just bought a Legends Ravage for £14.00 and my Toymaster charges £13.99 for Legends class (when it has them) so I got a Headmaster for an extra 0.01 pence and a Ravage with a nicer sticker.
Even better for those who use Taibao. I can say in all honesty this is the least "Offical" Transformers I've bought in a given year this century and Last year was also the worst at the time.
Simply because I couldn't find ANYTHING. the last time it was this bad was one year during Prime when there was nothing for 9 months and then it all showed up at once in Home bargains at clearance prices.
I mean seriously even with a slightly reduced Pound value Deluxes prices going from £14.99 to £22.99 in a year is plain daft.
But just look at some of the Star Wars pricing too. They know that this kills lines as it has pretty much destroyed marvel Hasbro toys across Europe.
But the real insult isn't just the odd nature of the pricing ( A deluxe costs nearly the same as a Voyager and nearly the same as that Rescue Bots Bumblebee Dragon with the two dragon Minicons too).
Some people have seen £65.00 Leader class prices in the UK - which is quite obviously idiotic. It's a shame really as I was really enjoying Titans Returns until the prices went nuts and the availability vanished.
Posted by Rated X on October 27th, 2017 @ 8:47am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 27th, 2017 @ 3:50pm CDT
Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 27th, 2017 @ 4:25pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:If Toys"r"us sells Toys, what does Babies"r"us sell?
the same
Posted by King Kuuga on October 28th, 2017 @ 6:51am CDT
Rated X wrote:Get rid of Babies are Us and stop trying to compete with walmart in baby supplies. Stick to what put you on the map in the first place...toys. Problem solved.
It's funny, because the company that became Toys R Us was actually founded as a children's furniture store, which soon added baby toys. So, arguably, what would become Babies R Us came first.
Posted by Va'al on October 29th, 2017 @ 3:33am CDT
Dear Valued Customer,
As you may know, in September we announced that we were beginning a formal process – known as Chapter 11 – designed to strengthen our financial position and allow us to reinvest in our business. This was a proactive and voluntary move that gives us the opportunity to reset and do the things necessary to continue to earn your business now and well into the future.
I’m writing today because I want to assure you that you can continue to shop with us with confidence, in store or online. Your local Toys"R"Us and Babies"R"Us stores are open and our team members are standing by ready to help. You should also know that we are continuing to honor our various customer programs including Registry, Endless Earnings, Geoffrey's Birthday Club, gift cards and warranties.
With the holidays just around the corner, we have a number of exciting things in store for you:
Price Match Promise¹ – If you find a toy or baby product at a lower price at one of our competitors, Toys"R"Us will match the price. Not only will we match competitor’s prices in store, we’ll donate an additional $1 to Toys for Tots every time you price match now thru 12/24, up to $1 million.
Parents Night Out² – As a parent, I found it was always tough to find time to shop when the kids weren’t looking, so this year Toys"R"Us is hosting special events on Sunday, November 12 and Thursday, November 30 from 8-10pm local time. During these very special events, customers will have access to a shopping expert, hot toy demonstrations, games and treats (think hot chocolate bar, raffles and more) plus a sweepstakes where Rewards"R"Us members have a chance to win a trip for 4 to New York City.
Layaway and Then Some³ – We will once again offer free layaway services this holiday season, waiving the usual fee. Plus, every single day from Sunday, November 5, through Saturday, December 9, Toys"R"Us will select one layaway customer who will receive a $200 TRU gift card to put towards their layaway.
Play Lab – I have seven grandkids who would love nothing more than to visit one of our stores to test drive the newest toys. On Sunday, November 1, forty-two Toys"R"Us locations across the country will open designated play spaces in their stores. Shopping list meets play time.
Play Chaser™ – Our new augmented reality gaming app is turning our toy stores into an interactive playground. It’s also connected to our much-awaited holiday catalog, The Ultimate Guide to Play. Kids can now build their favorites list using the app.
These are just a few of the exciting changes I’m most excited for this holiday. No matter how you choose to shop with us, know that you can continue to count on us for an outstanding experience. We have been in the business of bringing joy to kids for nearly seven decades, and we welcome the opportunity to serve you this holiday season and long into the future.
Sincerely,
Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 29th, 2017 @ 6:57am CDT
Posted by hurricane567 on October 29th, 2017 @ 12:06pm CDT
Posted by cloudballoon on October 29th, 2017 @ 2:38pm CDT
But TRU runs far more sales on TF toys than Walmart & price-match. I'd say 75% of my TFs were purchased at sale prices (through sales of the week or rain checks from previous sales) at TRU.
TRU exchange policy is also better. I can exchange any figure from the same line to a different one with minimum hassle. This is not possible at Walmart.
Only thing I can complain are the shelf-warmers, but that's not *my problem* per se, as I can get TF figures I want 90% of the time at TRU... eventually. I'm just concern the losses incurred on TRU's finances about those shelf-warmers.
If we all want TRU to get through this tough time, we should find out how TRU can help themselves by improving their purchasing analysis. We (collectors & parents) can only buy so much BBB, OP & repaints before we collectively say "enough, don't need another similar BBB/OP"? Hasbro can also help out too.
Posted by dragons on October 29th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:apart from their bloody prices!
That is no different then buying toy from bigbadtoystore tfsource, robot kingdom , amazon and eBay ToysRus prices are cheap compare to online stores online store you pay for shipping and handling and tax and if you want free shipping at certain online stores you need spend certain amount plus Walmart is cheaper but there selection sucks take your pick.,
Pay double for deluxe figure at online store with shipping and handling plus tax, or go to Walmart with cheaper prices and toy your theme your looking for only takes two shelf space racks on one big aisle I look at walmart transformers section and others Toysrus selection for those have bigger selection same with target compared to walmart
Posted by shajaki on October 29th, 2017 @ 7:24pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 30th, 2017 @ 12:53pm CDT
cloudballoon wrote:Here in Canada, I don't get how we can complain much about TRU's TF toy prices. Their main line TF prices are only a few cents higher than Walmart's. Like $19.99 vs. $19.97 for a TR DLX. They have similar prices for Legend, Deluxe and Voyager except Leader - TRU is $5 more expensive than WM.
But TRU runs far more sales on TF toys than Walmart & price-match. I'd say 75% of my TFs were purchased at sale prices (through sales of the week or rain checks from previous sales) at TRU.
TRU exchange policy is also better. I can exchange any figure from the same line to a different one with minimum hassle. This is not possible at Walmart.
Only thing I can complain are the shelf-warmers, but that's not *my problem* per se, as I can get TF figures I want 90% of the time at TRU... eventually. I'm just concern the losses incurred on TRU's finances about those shelf-warmers.
If we all want TRU to get through this tough time, we should find out how TRU can help themselves by improving their purchasing analysis. We (collectors & parents) can only buy so much BBB, OP & repaints before we collectively say "enough, don't need another similar BBB/OP"? Hasbro can also help out too.
One thing I've really noticed just with talking to Will is the difference between TRU USA and TRU Canada. To your points here, the price differences are huge in some cases. back in combiner wars, they were selling deluxes for $24.99 while every other store (Walmart, Target) were selling them for $14.99. and even now, their deluxes range from $16.99 to $21.99, while Target and Walmart are the same. TLK is a bit more at Target and Walmart, but they're only a buck or 2 higher per size class. So the TRU USA Price difference is fairly significant.
Our TRU's do not do many sales either. If a figure goes on sale, it is almost always a simplified figure, not part of the main line. And if it is part of the main line, it's very expensive and not selling (Cybertron).
Exchange and price matching at TRU USA are BS too. You must have proof of the exact same figure, not size class, same figure to the name and packaging, to price match, and if you have to do that, why even both buying it there when you can buy it where you saw it? (I learned that with the combaticons, they would not price match them).
Honestly, TRU USA is only good for exclusives, that's about it. Prices are much higher, they are usually behind the other stores with stocking (RiD Bisk and Paralon are very popular sights around here still while Walmarts and Targets have Soundwave and Blurr), and their policies are not good either. They need to make some changes if they don't want to go bankrupt. Their USA stores and policies are flawed.
Also, Dragons: TRU USA has prices on par or worse than online, and often times here their selection is not that good, even online. How many times have I seen a figure I want on TRU.com and it says "store only" and can't be bought online. Too many. So shopping at TRU is a lot like BBTS and the such pricewise, but there are better options and more updated product-wise options, so I would rather buy from BBTS than TRU since they are more reliable
Posted by Va'al on December 2nd, 2017 @ 5:03am CST
It appears that, according to the BBC, out of the 106 stores currently open in the UK, at least 25 of them will be closed in the coming months due to issues of rental costs and the model of the stores themselves. You can read more about the issue here, but it seems as though holiday retail at least will not be affected, though several thousand jobs will be cut if no solution is found on time.
Worth noting: this is an entirely different issue than the Chapter 11 filing, and is limited to the UK locations of the retailer.
The closures would form part of a deal to renegotiate debts owed by the company to its landlords - which must be agreed by 75% of its creditors.
The toy giant, which has around 3,000 workers, is looking to move away from its "big-box" out-of-town store model.
Christmas trading and gift cards are not expected to be affected.
The company is seeking approval from its board and US parent company to enter talks with the landlords.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 2nd, 2017 @ 6:36am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on December 2nd, 2017 @ 7:00am CST
Posted by frogbat on December 2nd, 2017 @ 7:09am CST
Posted by Aimless Misfire on December 2nd, 2017 @ 7:13am CST
hurricane567 wrote:My local US TRU has a 4 foot wide Transformers section. [orders Misfire from Timmy's Toy Box/Amazon.com]
lol Same here! I got 2 Misfires & 1 Windblade from Timmy's.
Misfire is one of my favorites but I'll probably never see him in a store.
Posted by Cybertronius Primus on December 2nd, 2017 @ 7:32am CST
Posted by nemesisorion on December 2nd, 2017 @ 12:22pm CST
Posted by Prime Nova on December 2nd, 2017 @ 2:27pm CST
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Posted by Prime Nova on December 2nd, 2017 @ 3:27pm CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 3rd, 2017 @ 1:17am CST
Prime Nova wrote:Don't worry we have Smyths Toy Superstore & The Entertainer that do stock toys & aren't empty like tru stores.
The Entertainer charges £23 for £18 Titans Return figures...And they have done since way before TLK Deluxes were £23 so doesn't seem like an error and I've pointed it out to them but they're like... "huh". Also their stock (at least going by the Cambridge store) of Transformers is far worse than the same town's Toys R Us.
Also unrelated to TFs but still bugs me is that Toys R Us is the retailer even remotely near me that stocks Mega Construx which I love to (and often pose with Transformers) so I really don't want to see them go.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on December 7th, 2017 @ 7:08pm CST
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/06/news/co ... index.html
Posted by Va'al on December 19th, 2017 @ 9:32am CST
As you might remember, the UK branch of the retail chain has been facing some rough times entirely independently of the US branch's bankruptcy filing, and around a quarter of their stores in the country could be facing closure. The latest addition to that story, as reported by major UK national media, informs us that pension funds may also be in trouble. Apparently, whatever the outcome stores will not be closing until the spring, meaning that holiday shopping (and jobs) will be unaffected, but you can read more on this below.
Toys R Us UK is facing potential collapse this week with the loss of 3,200 jobs as it struggles to win the support of the state-backed Pension Protection Fund (PPF) for a planned restructure.
The PPF, the industry-funded, state-backed safety net, demanded that the troubled retailer pump about £9m into the ailing Toys R Us UK pension fund.
This is in order to gain the PPF’s support for the retailer’s planned company voluntary arrangement (CVA) procedure, which involves the closure of at least 26 loss-making stores. That deal would lead to the loss of up to 800 jobs.
[...]
Malcolm Weir, director of restructuring and insolvency at the PPF, said the body had yet to decide how to vote: ‘‘We are seeking to fully understand the current position of the company, including its future potential, position of the US parent and the reported historic financial transactions.
“The pension scheme is already underfunded and, if we were to vote in favour of the CVA, we would need actions taken that ensure the position of the pension scheme was not going to further weaken.
“Whatever the outcome of the CVA, the pension scheme members can be reassured that they remain protected.”
Posted by Rodimus Knight on December 19th, 2017 @ 9:47am CST
I wouldn't be surprised if Toys R Us wasn't around next holiday season.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 19th, 2017 @ 11:20am CST
Posted by nemesisorion on December 19th, 2017 @ 1:27pm CST
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on December 19th, 2017 @ 1:57pm CST
So really why would i go there when i know walmart and target usually get in the newer waves about 2 weeks later at a cheaper price? And those two stores are alot closer.
Nothing about toysrus is great or gives much incentive to go there.
Even there masterpiece prices are insane.
Mpm-3 bumblebee is $90 at toysrus vs bbts $79.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 19th, 2017 @ 4:29pm CST
Posted by Asepticon on December 19th, 2017 @ 7:01pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 21st, 2017 @ 11:31am CST
Bloomberg states that the holiday shopping season has not yielded the numbers Toysrus was hoping for, though with the season not being over and the numbers for this quarter not released yet, we do not have a clear view at what numbers they are actually referring to.
Toys “R” Us Inc., which filed for bankruptcy in September, is considering closing at least 100 U.S. stores in the face of weak holiday sales, according to people with knowledge of the situation.
U.S. sales have declined about 15 percent this Christmas-shopping season from a year earlier, according to people recently briefed on the matter, who asked not to be identified because the information isn’t public. The number of closed stores could reach approximately 200, one of the people said, but no decision has been made.
Toysrus themselves have commented by simply stating that any real number for stores closing is pure speculation at the moment and probably inaccurate:
“Final decisions about our real estate portfolio will be done only after careful consideration about the best interests of our business,” said spokeswoman Amy von Walter. “Any speculation on that figure is premature and likely to be inaccurate.”
Posted by nemesisorion on December 21st, 2017 @ 11:47am CST
Posted by That_Guy on December 21st, 2017 @ 11:58am CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 21st, 2017 @ 12:04pm CST
I just hope the couple stores I have a lot of sentimental attachment to stay open. They are in the heart of densely populated areas. especially THIS ONE, though it is over 120 miles from where I am currently, I have some history with it...
https://backpackerverse.com/haunted-toysrus/
Posted by dragons on December 21st, 2017 @ 1:02pm CST
nemesisorion wrote:Bye bye shits r us
Would you prefer shopping at walmart they don't sell master piece figures and there selection sucks no matter what prices are on all figures
Posted by dragons on December 21st, 2017 @ 1:03pm CST
nemesisorion wrote:Bye bye shits r us
Would you prefer shopping at walmart they don't sell master piece figures and there selection sucks no matter what prices are on all figures
Posted by gothsaurus on December 21st, 2017 @ 1:51pm CST
Posted by Kyleor on December 21st, 2017 @ 4:17pm CST
But this is also the same company who thinks it's OK to regularly not have anyone at any register or anywhere else in the front of the store.
Fingers crossed the restructuring includes replacing upper management with better decision makers.
Posted by fenrir72 on December 21st, 2017 @ 6:37pm CST
Also, major bummer for the TRU employees.......
Posted by fenrir72 on December 21st, 2017 @ 6:38pm CST
Kyleor wrote:I'm always amazed when companies work their way to be a big/major name in their category/field, then somehow manage to self destruct, usually with a 'we're too big to fail' type attitude from the upper management.
But this is also the same company who thinks it's OK to regularly not have anyone at any register or anywhere else in the front of the store.
Fingers crossed the restructuring includes replacing upper management with better decision makers.
It's called cost cutting.
Posted by Editor on December 22nd, 2017 @ 1:22am CST