Transformers: Age of Extinction (Music from the Motion Picture) - EP Released Via iTunes

viruscarnage wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

viruscarnage wrote:Might be safe to mention that Steve earlier made a post on Facebook saying it's just a teaser album, while the full one is being finalized.

Do you have the link? I can't quote it without proof. Thank you!

I suck at Facebook, so I don't know how to link a post lol. but it's the first post on his page

https://www.facebook.com/SteveJablonskyOfficial

Thank you, got it.

Autobot032 wrote:

viruscarnage wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

viruscarnage wrote:Might be safe to mention that Steve earlier made a post on Facebook saying it's just a teaser album, while the full one is being finalized.

Do you have the link? I can't quote it without proof. Thank you!

I suck at Facebook, so I don't know how to link a post lol. but it's the first post on his page

https://www.facebook.com/SteveJablonskyOfficial

Thank you, got it.

No problem

Sikorsky Highspeed Attack Helicopter - I guess Bugatti won the toy contract.

Great movie.... hope there is less human action and bot on con footage for the next one (I think Bay is finally getting it)

Wow way too much posts.

SlyTF1 wrote:

GallifreyanSeeker wrote:I could talk about the movie for hours. Out of the three Bayverse movies I have seen (RotF, DotM, AoE), this one is my favorite. First of all, on a Transformers movie, the fans' ratings will be more useful than the critics' scores, because lots of what made this movie good was the stuff that only long-time fans would get, such as certain plot elements and character traits.
I liked how AoE was quite a mix of the plot and characters of G1, Animated, and TFP especially. Lockdown was my favorite character and a GREAT addition to the movie. He was so cool! Galvatron was pretty cool, too. Not as cool as he was in G1, but he was Ok. I was so relieved to find out that he was actually going to be, you know, a sentient being after a bit, and I was also happy that Welker voiced him again. Now for the Autobots. I don't have much to say about Crosshairs, Bee or Prime. They were pretty cool, but I will say once again that Bumblebee is possibly the most overrated character in Transformers history. Drift reminded me of Yokitron from Animated, and Hound reminded me of Bulkhead. Oh, yeah. And poor Ratchet! I was disappointed by the Dinobots, though. They got so little screen time and weren't even named, nor did they get any speaking lines! Come on, Bay! They had so much potential!
I liked how we got both Lockdown and the whole cyberforming Earth thing both into the plot, with some suspense. It was a little bit too much of a commercial for the next one, but I'm ready to see TF5 and the Quintessons or whoever appears in TF5. The Dinobots and Galvatron better come back in a good way, too. Did I mention I would happily freak if Cyclonus appeared in the next one? Also, even though this isn't a very Michael Bay thing, I'm just going to introduce the thought of Starscream's Ghost in the next one. Not good, not bad. Just think about that for a minute.
Even though it still has the Bay-like unexplained explosions and somewhat weakly carried out plot, I would still say that overall, this movie was pretty good. It's worth watching.

Why would explosions need to be explained? There are giant alien robots rampaging through the city shooting each other. If that isn't a cause for explosions, I don't know what is.

Thank you! Everybody always jumping on Bay about explosions yet they fail to understand that the Transformers are equipped with "HIGH GRADE WEAPONRY". This isn't a typical war movie folks!

viruscarnage wrote:I feel like I'm the only one who actually really enjoyed seeing Optimus like this. I loved Optimus this movie, he actually showed some emotions.

I feel you brother! Prime is my favorite Transformer and I too appreciate him being more emotionally driven in this movie. Some G1 purist will hate him in this but I don't let G1 define him. G1 is more design for kids!

Lockdown's theme is badass. It was stuck in my head all day, yesterday. It's nice to finally be able to listen to it whenever I want.

viruscarnage wrote:I feel like I'm the only one who actually really enjoyed seeing Optimus like this. I loved Optimus this movie, he actually showed some emotions.

Nope. This movie solidified movie Optimus as my favorite fictional character of all time.

That's the problem I believe, that Prime is a favourite of many, many people, who each have a version of him in their heads. So unless AoE Prime meets those qualities then they will have a problem with it, ignoring the fact that this Prime is Movieverse Prime, just another spec of light in the multiverse of Primes (which also includes shattered glass Prime...Now there's an evil guy).

hope there is a cd this time unlike the last time he let his fans down with dark of the moon.

I think this Prime is the same Prime from the cartoons and comics. The problem is no one has seen Prime pushed to this point ever. The same humans he love wants nothing more than to wipe out his soldiers and himself. It's like people wanted Optimus to remain ultra positive while being hunted by the species he swore to protect. That's illogical!

Just found that this Age of Extinction "Sampler" of 4 songs is also available via Google Play Music (sadly for $1 more at $3.99): https://play.google.com/store/music/alb ... ufkv5k35ci

Not sure if this should be appended to the main post, but figure I'd pass this along for those who might not utilize iTunes for their music collection

I am okay with Prime's reaction in this movie. The humans hunted down and murdered Transformers with no distinction of Autobot or Decepticon.

Kind of reminds me of how pissed off Optimus Prime was in the awesome "Prime Target" when Lord Chumley kidnapped the Autobots and held them captive in those torture contraptions.



Optimus Prime: "You'd better hope I find them before I find you!"


"Unless you can... do better than that... you're finished, Chumley!"


"If that was your best shot, Chumley, you're in d-e-e-p trouble!"

I went to see it last night. I honestly think the issue with the movie is the musical score. It's down right horrible in my opinion. It is kind of empty to me in most aspects. Just seems flat, where key moments should be and the score should build and crescendo it doesnt. The music seems lifeless in my opinion. The music helps to accent the visual narritive and define the moment and I didnt get a lot of that from this movie.

The music isnt horrible but the way the audio was laid to the film score is just bad from my first viewing. Hoping it will be better when I get to see it on Blu-Ray in my home on the home theater.

As for the movie it-self story wise I liked it. There were very somber moments like Ratchet and Leadfoot being hunted and torn to scrap. Optimus goes to a dark place. I liked seeing his darker side, that even as optimistic as Optimus Prime is even he doesnt see the good in people any more. Questioning all that he knows. So that was good to see Optimus gain emotional depth, though it sounded audio wise like Cullen wasnt into this with all his heart like previous movies.

I didnt like the voice of Galvatron, it doesnt sound menacing or like something I would fear at all. Needs to be deeper. I get to evolutional change from Megatron sound to Galvatron but it doesnt fit well in my opinion I hope the character evolves to sound more sinister and darker and deeper in sound for the next movie.

The Dinobots being lifeless personality voids was a let down. Wondering what if any part they will have in the next movie, will they gain personality similar to the ones we love from the comics, cartoons and games. I tried to think of it from the perspective that the dinobots will evolve much like the primitive creatures they base their forms from to a more sophisticated set of bots in the coming movie. Their scale was amazing. I only wish they made them like that on the toy side. Make them ultra class with comparison to voyagers.

I dont remember seeing Drift, Crosshairs, or Hound transform during the movie at all, just one minute they are bot, next a car. That is a key issue for me. Transformers implies they you know transform... needs to be shown. I will say Drift going from bot to chopper was awesome.

Also when did Optimus all of a sudden become able to fly? Without all the tech. Its not like he upgraded during the movie. Just re-shell'd from one truck to another.


Anyway enough of that. Watched it once, not good enough to go back to the theater for another round. In the fall it will drop on disc and I will watch it again then in the house without people up nice and loud. Maybe I will grow to love it more then.

MenaceRX wrote:Also when did Optimus all of a sudden become able to fly? Without all the tech. Its not like he upgraded during the movie.

Yeah, he did. When he pulled the sword out in Lockdown's ship, like King Arthur did Excalibur, you could see some changes. We saw his arms and chest change some, so it's reasonable to say his back changed as well, giving him the jetpack.

Anyway enough of that. Watched it once, not good enough to go back to the theater for another round.

Maybe you should. That way you could pick up on some of the smaller details you missed.

I remember that part with the sword and the ship, I didnt notice the rear body upgrades, they paid particular camera attention to the forarms thouhg. So perhaps thats when it happened. Just didnt see how he made the leap from non flight to hey look I can fly now.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

MenaceRX wrote:Also when did Optimus all of a sudden become able to fly? Without all the tech. Its not like he upgraded during the movie.

Yeah, he did. When he pulled the sword out in Lockdown's ship, like King Arthur did Excalibur, you could see some changes. We saw his arms and chest change some, so it's reasonable to say his back changed as well, giving him the jetpack.

Anyway enough of that. Watched it once, not good enough to go back to the theater for another round.

Maybe you should. That way you could pick up on some of the smaller details you missed.

See, that's the problem. People expect to just watch the movie once and be able to understand everything upon first viewing. That's why I like these movies. Every time I watch one, I notice things I didn't before. The "replay" value is always astonishing.

When I first watched AOE, I could understand how someone who wasn't paying attention could feel overwhelmed by all that was going on. I understood every bit of the movie, but I could see how someone who doesn't exactly think as fast and isn't as knowledgeable about the TF universe as me could be confused, since the story moves forward at such a high speed. But, when I saw the movie again, it didn't feel overwhelming at all. I could concentrate on what was actually going on, and it was even more amazing, that time. I'm going to see the movie again today and see if I can spot even more things that make the movie even more badass than it was the first 2 times.

Although a movie should give all its major points on a first viewing, or at least make you want to watch it again. If people don't get the right information first go round, they probably won't want a second viewing.

ZeroWolf wrote:Although a movie should give all its major points on a first viewing, or at least make you want to watch it again. If people don't get the right information first go round, they probably won't want a second viewing.

Then, why does everyone like movies like Inception? I understood everything the first time I watched that movie, and had no reason to ever watch it again. I just didn't care.

ZeroWolf wrote:Although a movie should give all its major points on a first viewing, or at least make you want to watch it again. If people don't get the right information first go round, they probably won't want a second viewing.

Then, why does everyone like movies like Inception? I understood everything the first time I watched that movie, and had no reason to ever watch it again. I just didn't care. Yet, everyone says you need to watch it more than once to understand it.

Anybody else getting a wee bit tired of all the swords and melee weapons? Just me?

SlyTF1 wrote:Also when did Optimus all of a sudden become able to fly? Without all the tech. Its not like he upgraded during the movie.

Considering that thanks to his Shield he was able to knock down Grimlock, it isn't hard to imagine that this Shield give you ability to fly. There must be reason, wy he holds it in his hand during flight...

SlyTF1 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Although a movie should give all its major points on a first viewing, or at least make you want to watch it again. If people don't get the right information first go round, they probably won't want a second viewing.

Then, why does everyone like movies like Inception? I understood everything the first time I watched that movie, and had no reason to ever watch it again. I just didn't care. Yet, everyone says you need to watch it more than once to understand it.

Thing is you didn't care, in a sense you're proving what I'm saying by not watching it a second time. Of course I haven't seen Inception so I can't comment on the plot.

@Chuckdawg1999

Personally I would prefer a mix of firearms and melee, be good at any situation.

I don't know if someone already brought this up but when all hell broke loose at the farm you see a rally car with no driver pull up. Walberg and his daughter get in and you see Shane in the driver seat. This is either a film set mistake or a huge continuity error. Maybe the writer's wanted another transformer but scrapped it. What's even more suspicious is even Shane commented that his driving was for some reason on a whole other level.

Did you guys notice this as well and what do you make of it?

TFfan92 wrote:I don't know if someone already brought this up but when all hell broke loose at the farm you see a rally car with no driver pull up. Walberg and his daughter get in and you see Shane in the driver seat. This is either a film set mistake or a huge continuity error. Maybe the writer's wanted another transformer but scrapped it. What's even more suspicious is even Shane commented that his driving was for some reason on a whole other level.

Did you guys notice this as well and what do you make of it?

I didn't notice a driver until the car parked by the pond in front of the house; admittedly, I mistook the rally car for Drift's car mode (having not paid much attention to any of the pre-movie news, admittedly). I chalk it up to the windows, which were obviously tinted (probably standard practice in action movies, so you don't see the stunt driver). As for Shane's comment about his driving, I chalk that up to the heightened adrenaline.

One thing I have noticed is that Shane's car has the same colors (though not the same patterns) as Bugbite

My guess is that it's so Hasbro can market Shane's car (Rollbar in the toyline) as a off-screen Transformer.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:Who's Marky Mark?

Some guy who used to be a hip hop "artist" 20 years ago. I have never seen him in a movie though. Matter of fact, I haven't seen that guy in about 20 years. Disappeared sometime around the time MARK WAHLBERG THE ACTOR appeared on the scene. I wish people would stop confusing the 2...

Because it totally makes sense that people who are fans of characters that can be both a robot and a car would be totally unable to equate an actor and his earlier career/iteration as being the same person. It's like we never reach that tryhard quotient on Seibertron these days, right?

Dagon wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:Who's Marky Mark?

Some guy who used to be a hip hop "artist" 20 years ago. I have never seen him in a movie though. Matter of fact, I haven't seen that guy in about 20 years. Disappeared sometime around the time MARK WAHLBERG THE ACTOR appeared on the scene. I wish people would stop confusing the 2...

Because it totally makes sense that people who are fans of characters that can be both a robot and a car would be totally unable to equate an actor and his earlier career/iteration as being the same person. It's like we never reach that tryhard quotient on Seibertron these days, right?

After reading through, I think the point Burn was making was that it's not relevant anymore to call Mark Walhberg Marky Mark. Unless the actor himself endorses it.

I went for my 2nd viewing of AoE today. A few things I wanted to comment on.

1.) Shane - I really don't like him the more I watch of him (more so in the first half of the movie) the more I dislike him.

2.) Optimus' body change with the great sword - It seems like his shoulders were modified a bit as well as his forearms, it could be he got the jetpack at that point.

There's probably a few other things I'm forgetting, oh well.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody else getting a wee bit tired of all the swords and melee weapons? Just me?

I'm not I love sword and melee weapons, kinda reminds me of a less gruesome version of Game of Thrones.

Just saw AOE for the third time. Now, I'm convinced that anyone having a hard time following the story is just saying that because they don't want to admit that a TF movie actually had an interesting story without a bunch of annoying humor.

SlyTF1 wrote:Just saw AOE for the third time. Now, I'm convinced that anyone having a hard time following the story is just saying that because they don't want to admit that a TF movie actually had an interesting story without a bunch of annoying humor.

Ah yes, the vast anti-Transformers conspiracy.
I'm pretty sure this gets brought up with each new movie. Too bad it never gets any less stupid.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:Who's Marky Mark?

Some guy who used to be a hip hop "artist" 20 years ago. I have never seen him in a movie though. Matter of fact, I haven't seen that guy in about 20 years. Disappeared sometime around the time MARK WAHLBERG THE ACTOR appeared on the scene. I wish people would stop confusing the 2...

Because it totally makes sense that people who are fans of characters that can be both a robot and a car would be totally unable to equate an actor and his earlier career/iteration as being the same person. It's like we never reach that tryhard quotient on Seibertron these days, right?

After reading through, I think the point Burn was making was that it's not relevant anymore to call Mark Walhberg Marky Mark. Unless the actor himself endorses it.

I understand that. It's the same principle as when your parents call you by your childhood nickname or a younger-sounding version of your name, like Jimmy instead of James, and you have no idea who they're referring to. Or like how we never refer to things from the past, because they don't matter, or how no one ever remembers things that people, especially famous people who garner a lot of media attention, do before the thing they are currently doing. They've just always been what they currently are.
Wait, that's dumb also.
I think using his past as some kind of slight that he was in this or any movie and ignoring his past because now he does something else are equally dumb.

Dagon wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Just saw AOE for the third time. Now, I'm convinced that anyone having a hard time following the story is just saying that because they don't want to admit that a TF movie actually had an interesting story without a bunch of annoying humor.

Ah yes, the vast anti-Transformers conspiracy.
I'm pretty sure this gets brought up with each new movie. Too bad it never gets any less stupid.

I thought ROTF and DOTM had good enough plots, but they kind of felt like they were slapped together. With AOE, it seems like they put a bit more thought into it, and teasing what the sequels might bring.

SlyTF1 wrote:Just saw AOE for the third time. Now, I'm convinced that anyone having a hard time following the story is just saying that because they don't want to admit that a TF movie actually had an interesting story without a bunch of annoying humor.

It definitely seems that way, I find this to be the easiest plot to follow of the movies.

I never thought it would happen, but AoE delivered on everything I'd hoped for. No more soldier worship, no toilet/dorky/slapstick humor, and the humans acted like believable, sane people. Stanley Tucci's comic relief character strikes a perfect balance between eccentric and funny while still being sane.

Decent acting all around, although I could have done without the Shane character. He did serve as a plot device in causing tension between Cade and Tessa, but was an otherwise bland character.

And for the first time in a long time, I actually gave a damn about the characters in a TF movie instead of counting down the minutes between fight scenes. I found myself rooting for Optimus, and even empathizing with him over the deaths of his friends. I actually winced when they shot up Ratchet--it was even more riveting to me than Ironhide's death. RIP, Doc.

I'm very impressed by the plot as well. I'm glad they decided to stop making episodic TF movies, and concentrate on a more intricate 3-part story that reveals the origins of Cybertronians.

Of course, AoE is not without its flaws (Dinobots need more screen time, and the knights thing could have been elaborated on a little more), but I'll gladly overlook them in light of the massive progress they made compared to the earlier movies.

Good job, Bay and Kruger. Good job.

I don't know if you guys have notice but the next trilogy will most definitely based off Transformers The Movie. So I would expect Ultra Magnus and Rodimus(I don't like Rodimus). Cyclonus and Scourge is coming along with the Quintesson and Unicron!

viruscarnage wrote:It definitely seems that way, I find this to be the easiest plot to follow of the movies.

The core plot itself is easy to follow, but there are so many open-ended and seemingly contradictory threads in it that trying to get the whole picture can be confusing. i.e. it starts of with actual dinosaurs getting wiped out, but then that bit is dropped completely without any purpose or resolution, and then the Dino-Bots are introduced having nothing to do with the dinosaurs we saw earlier and instead are tied up with these "Knights" that aren't explained or anything. And it's a 3-hour movie, I shouldn't have to wait for a sequel or a comic or some fan's pet theory to make sense of it all.

Noideaforaname wrote:

viruscarnage wrote:It definitely seems that way, I find this to be the easiest plot to follow of the movies.

The core plot itself is easy to follow, but there are so many open-ended and seemingly contradictory threads in it that trying to get the whole picture can be confusing. i.e. it starts of with actual dinosaurs getting wiped out, but then that bit is dropped completely without any purpose or resolution, and then the Dino-Bots are introduced having nothing to do with the dinosaurs we saw earlier and instead are tied up with these "Knights" that aren't explained or anything. And it's a 3-hour movie, I shouldn't have to wait for a sequel or a comic or some fan's pet theory to make sense of it all.

The dinosaur thing was to show that the Creators were the ones who caused the extinction of the Dinosaurs. I'll be honest, though, the first time I saw the movie, I thought the Dinobots were those dinosaurs from the beginning.

1. I think the reason there was no resolution to the beginning scene was that they didn't want us to know too much about the Quintessons/Creators just yet.It keeps us guessing. It would be nice if that one scene was extended.

2. The explanation of the Knights would come at a bad time as the battle in China was going on at the time and Optimus was trying to get the Dinobots there before Hound and Bee would become overwhelmed against 51 cons. Also Optimus might have known little about them hence the reason he said "the legend exist".

I also like how Optimus spoke in his Cybertronian language.

TFfan92 wrote:I don't know if someone already brought this up but when all hell broke loose at the farm you see a rally car with no driver pull up. Walberg and his daughter get in and you see Shane in the driver seat. This is either a film set mistake or a huge continuity error.

He was in there. The outline of his face can be seen in the window of the car.

SlyTF1 wrote:He was a joke in G1. What's changed?

I'll tell you what's changed.

In G1, no matter how often the Decepticons were defeated, it was (almost) always clear that Megatron was in command. Not The Fallen, not Sentinel, Megatron.

But in the movies, he's always being upstaged, by The Fallen, then Sentinel, then Lockdown.

Even in the first one, wherein he was the main big baddie, he didn't really do anything until towards the end. He wasn't being upstaged, but he was still being screwed over.

But G1 Megs was (almost) always clearly in command, and, when he wasn't, he managed to get it back before more than 2 or 3 episodes passed. I want to see more of that in Bay's films. I want to see Galvatron as not just the most credible threat but the ONLY credible threat, so incredibly powerful that no other force of evil could possibly be worse.

Except perhaps Unicron, that would be cool with me.

Don't know why people need to compare the movies to G1. Why not compare them to Animated? Or Prime? Or the A/E/C trilogy? Why not RiD? (Obviously there's no point in comparing it to BW/BM as they're radically different)

Burn wrote:Don't know why people need to compare the movies to G1. Why not compare them to Animated? Or Prime? Or the A/E/C trilogy? Why not RiD? (Obviously there's no point in comparing it to BW/BM as they're radically different)

Because everything gets compared to G1. The fact that the main character is voiced by his G1 voice isn't helping any.

So we should compare Rescue Bots to G1 too then?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:Don't know why people need to compare the movies to G1. Why not compare them to Animated? Or Prime? Or the A/E/C trilogy? Why not RiD? (Obviously there's no point in comparing it to BW/BM as they're radically different)

Because everything gets compared to G1. The fact that the main character is voiced by his G1 voice isn't helping any.

It also doesn't help that a lot of people remember G1 a lil bit differently then how it actually was. They seem to be of the opinion that it was the best toon ever but just cause you were first doesn't mean you're the best, characters can still be refined.

The other day I watched the first season of G1, and its definitely a product of its time. Kids today wouldn't stand for it.

@Skywarp

I think it would take a different thread to explain the differences between G1 and movieverse, and to why Megatron was 'overshadowed as you put it.

Did anyone else see the TFP Vehicon Caddy when Cade and Bee first went to KSI? Cuz... I was all "Steve!!!" when i saw that

I must be one of those rare individuals that does not compare the movieverse to the original G1 cartoon. There are so many continuities,
US releases used as an example.

G1 Cartoon
Beast Wars (continuation of g1 toon)
Beast Machines (continuation of g1 toon)
G1 Marvel Comics
RID
Energon
Armada
TF Prime
Rescue Bots
Movieverse

And whatever else is out there, each is in it's own universe.

Burn wrote:So we should compare Rescue Bots to G1 too then?

No, we shouldn't. And we shouldn't compare any other series either, unless it's a direct continuity of or reference to, or even inspiration of G1. But I agree, comparisons between Bayverse and G1 shouldn' be in this thread. This is just about AoE.

And yeah, I noticed the "Vehicon" Cadillac. Not sure if it was intentional or not.

In the movie, Lockdown mentions that Optimus Prime was not "Born", but he was "Made."
And that "THEY" want him back.
I can only assume THEY are the Quintessons, from the G1 series.

superchook6909 wrote:In the movie, Lockdown mentions that Optimus Prime was not "Born", but he was "Made."
And that "THEY" want him back.
I can only assume THEY are the Quintessons, from the G1 series.

One can only hope, but they won't be floating heads that's for sure.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

I can only assume THEY are the Quintessons, from the G1 series.

One can only hope, but they won't be floating heads that's for sure.

One can also dread. I hope the Quints won't be in Bayverse, they're horrible characters. Or if they do a version of them, make them different than floating 5 faced heads. But then they wouldn't really be Quintessons.

There is another possibility, a very remote one. The creator could be the movieverse version of primacron...

*everyone runs*

Wait, it's not that crazy, his wiki entry says he claimed to have built primitive transformers. So maybe the writers/director saw this as a way to kill two birds with one stone, creators myth and bring in unicron. After all they may send Unicron to deal with the Autobots and humanity that is playing around with things it shouldn't.

I rather this didn't happen, but I can't think what the writers or Bay would do for the fifth one.