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Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014

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TRANSFORMERS ARMADA: THE COMPLETE SERIES
Relive the Adventures of This Classic Animated TV Series in One Complete Set Featuring All 52 Action-Packed Episodes

BRING HOME THIS COLLECTIBLE 8-DVD SET ON MARC 11, 2014 FROM SHOUT! FACTORY

Brace yourself to relive some of the most astonishing TRANSFORMERS battles between the AUTOBOTS and the DECEPTICONS through the complete series release of TRANSFORMERS ARMADA. In 2002, TRANSFORMERS fans and kids were introduced to the animated television series TRANSFORMERS ARMADA. This is the unforgettable chapter of TRANSFORMERS lore and the first part of the rare UNICRON Trilogy – consisting of ARMADA, ENERGON and CYBERTRON. OPTIMUS PRIME, his team of AUTOBOTS and their human friends stepped up the fight against MEGATRON and his DECEPTICONS for control of the universe and the power-enhancing MINI-CONS, a lost race of TRANSFORMERS. Valor, deception and unexpected twists unfolded in these captivating adventures, leading to an unlikely alliance between natural enemies in the face of a genuine evil known as UNICRON.

Transformers News: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014

On March 11, 2014, Shout! Factory, in collaboration with Hasbro Studios, will unleash TRANSFORMERS ARMADA: THE COMPLETE SERIES on home entertainment shelves everywhere. For the first time ever, the entire series is collected in one deluxe 8-DVD set, featuring all 52 memorable episodes. Whether reliving the childhood memory or discovering this series for the first time, this is an essential home collection for every fan, collectors and entire family to complete their TRANSFORMERS home entertainment library. This complete series 8-DVD set is priced to own at $44.99 SRP.

Pre-order is available now at: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GSTHDCU?tag ... amp=211189

Synopsis:
Our heroes, the AUTOBOTS and their nemesis, the DECEPTICONS are at it again in this complete series of the TRANSFORMERS ARMADA. This series open to a war between the two factions of TRANSFORMERS on their home planet of Cybertron over MINI-CONS, a race of smaller, power-enhancing TRANSFORMERS. This struggle will bring AUTOBOTS, DECEPTICONS and MINI-CONS to earth, where they continue to battle, even after two humans get involved. Through the course of this series, the TRANSFORMERS face mysterious mercenaries, mighty MINI-CON weapons and even time travel as they fight for control or freedom.

About Hasbro Studios
Hasbro Studios is the Los Angeles-based entertainment division of Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS). The studio is responsible for entertainment brand-driven storytelling for the company across television, film, commercial productions and short-form. It develops, produces and distributes TV shows based on Hasbro's world class brands, including TRANSFORMERS, MY LITTLE PONY, LITTLEST PET SHOP and FAMILY GAME NIGHT. Many of these shows air on the Hub Network, a U.S. television network for kids and their families, that is a joint venture between Hasbro and Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK). Hasbro Studios shows can also be seen on networks in more than 180 territories globally. Since its formation in 2009, the studio has received seven Daytime Emmy wins and 16 nominations. On the film side, the studio is developing and producing a number of features based on Hasbro's brands, including TRANSFORMERS: AGE OF EXTINCTION (Paramount), G.I. JOE 3 (Paramount) and CANDY LAND (Sony). The studio team also oversees the production of commercials that feature Hasbro's brands as well production of short-form content that can be seen on all of the major digital and social media platforms globally.

About Shout! Factory
Shout! Factory, LLC is a diversified multi-platform entertainment company devoted to producing, uncovering, preserving and revitalizing the very best of pop culture. Founders Richard Foos, Bob Emmer and Garson Foos have spent their entire careers sharing their music, television and film favorites with discerning consumers the world over. Shout! Factory’s DVD and Blu-Ray™ offerings serve up feature films, classic and contemporary TV series, animation, live music and comedy specials in lavish packages crammed with extras. Shout’s audio division boasts GRAMMY®-nominated box sets, new releases from storied artists, lovingly assembled album reissues and indispensable “best of” compilations. In addition, Shout! Factory maintains a vast digital distribution network which delivers video and audio content to all the leading digital service providers in North America. Shout! Factory also owns and operates Timeless Media Group, Biograph Records, Majordomo Records, HighTone Records and Video Time Machine. These riches are the result of a creative acquisition mandate that has established the company as a hotbed of cultural preservation and commercial reinvention. Shout! Factory is based in Santa Monica, California. For more on Shout! Factory, visit shoutfactory.com
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Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531883)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2013 @ 12:40pm CST
That press release is rife with embellishments. :P

Still, no sign of bonus content, so I'll likely stick with my Rhino DVD sets.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531885)
Posted by ScottyP on November 26th, 2013 @ 12:48pm CST
No bonus content at all? Easy, easy pass. Missed opportunity shout! It doesn't take much to get Armada fans to double dip.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531892)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 26th, 2013 @ 1:34pm CST
What kind of special features would you want? Directors commentary? It's been 11 years I doubt they would remember anything useful. It's probably too expensive to try and get the Japanese audio so that leaves interviews with the voice actors, last time they did that it was roundtables that were less about the shows and more about the individual actors.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531894)
Posted by YRQRM0 on November 26th, 2013 @ 1:51pm CST
Will buy if it's the better animation, may buy anyways. This would've been an awesome thing to get signed at Botcon 2012.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531896)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2013 @ 2:01pm CST
YRQRM0 wrote:Will buy if it's the better animation, may buy anyways. This would've been an awesome thing to get signed at Botcon 2012.
Even though Garry and David only wanted to talk about Beast Wars (a bit of ReBoot) despite their supposing to have been there for Armada's 10th anniversary. :P
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531897)
Posted by gothsaurus on November 26th, 2013 @ 2:30pm CST
Ooh. I like the cover, actually. I'd only double-up if we could get a Blu-Ray version. Can't believe they haven't put out Animated on Blu-Ray, knowing they have it in high-def. Maybe now that Prime is over they'll slip that into the lineup.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531900)
Posted by ScottyP on November 26th, 2013 @ 3:13pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What kind of special features would you want? Directors commentary? It's been 11 years I doubt they would remember anything useful. It's probably too expensive to try and get the Japanese audio so that leaves interviews with the voice actors, last time they did that it was roundtables that were less about the shows and more about the individual actors.


I can think of a lot! Cost aside, there's plenty of ideas:

- Galleries of Dreamwave's Armada MTMTE Profiles
- Japanese Audio w/ subs
- Japanese openings/endings
- Toy advertisements
- VA and Production crew commentary
- Hasbro team commentary (they'd certainly have some fun stuff)
- Pre-production art/stills/prototype images
- A pack-in Minicon (wishful thinking, I know)
- Even a "marathon version" of the show without the intro and ending to each episode would be fun
- There was also a tie-in game and comic, some of those creators may have contributions.

There are obviously challenges to several of these things, as you've pointed out, but just the straight re-release of the series feels lazy to me. I want to support Shout, but I just can't in this instance.

Sabrblade wrote:Even though Garry and David only wanted to talk about Beast Wars (a bit of ReBoot) despite their supposing to have been there for Armada's 10th anniversary. :P


That panel was a trainwreck, but mostly because of dumb audience questions. Very disappointed in it.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531901)
Posted by gothsaurus on November 26th, 2013 @ 3:20pm CST
wow. Great list of extras off the top of your head. They need you on the team!

Really enjoyed the Armada comic, actually. I thought all the minicon character development really enhanced the Armada franchise and storytelling.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531910)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 26th, 2013 @ 4:11pm CST
ScottyP wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What kind of special features would you want? Directors commentary? It's been 11 years I doubt they would remember anything useful. It's probably too expensive to try and get the Japanese audio so that leaves interviews with the voice actors, last time they did that it was roundtables that were less about the shows and more about the individual actors.


I can think of a lot! Cost aside, there's plenty of ideas:

- Galleries of Dreamwave's Armada MTMTE Profiles
- Japanese Audio w/ subs
- Japanese openings/endings
- Toy advertisements
- VA and Production crew commentary
- Hasbro team commentary (they'd certainly have some fun stuff)
- Pre-production art/stills/prototype images
- A pack-in Minicon (wishful thinking, I know)
- Even a "marathon version" of the show without the intro and ending to each episode would be fun
- There was also a tie-in game and comic, some of those creators may have contributions.

There are obviously challenges to several of these things, as you've pointed out, but just the straight re-release of the series feels lazy to me. I want to support Shout, but I just can't in this instance.

Sabrblade wrote:Even though Garry and David only wanted to talk about Beast Wars (a bit of ReBoot) despite their supposing to have been there for Armada's 10th anniversary. :P


That panel was a trainwreck, but mostly because of dumb audience questions. Very disappointed in it.


Out of that list the Minicon seems the most doable. FYI commercials are hard to do because if they have human actors the faces usually have to blurred out due to rights issues. Check out on You Tube some of the old G1 commercials, they range from hysterical to disturbing.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531911)
Posted by gothsaurus on November 26th, 2013 @ 4:19pm CST
I'm hoping they've learned their lesson and arranged for rights to put commercials on DVDs... now that they know DVDs exist, LOL.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531914)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 26th, 2013 @ 4:39pm CST
gothsaurus wrote:I'm hoping they've learned their lesson and arranged for rights to put commercials on DVDs... now that they know DVDs exist, LOL.


You would still have to pay royalties to the actors and I think there are certain laws pertaining to child actors or actors who were children at the time.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531919)
Posted by gothsaurus on November 26th, 2013 @ 4:52pm CST
Yeah, I was hoping they could pay them for the appearance AND any use of the commercial on DVDs as a lump contract... but seems like you're right, now that I think about it. Bummer.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531923)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2013 @ 5:07pm CST
I could see them doing DVD toy galleries more than anything else, especially since there's already one available for them to use. The Rhino sets had a gallery of official Armada toy photos that Shout! could import over to this set, since Shout! did the same thing for some of the extras in the Rhino Beast Wars DVDs. ;)

ScottyP wrote:- Japanese Audio w/ subs
- Japanese openings/endings
These two I'd envision being the least possible since the rights to the Japanese audio and OPs/EDs would be in the hands of Takara and/or other parties involved with the Japanese version, rather than own by Hasbro and Shout! Factory.

ScottyP wrote:- VA and Production crew commentary
I'd love to hear would be talked about in this since it'd probably be chock full of nightmarish stories about hasty deadlines and quality control shortcuts related to the scripts and/or the acting. I mean, Garry Chalk has spoken time and again about how dreadful it was just voicing Optimus on the show, so imagine what kind of unholy frustrations the dubbing team would talk about. IF they were allowed to, that is. :P
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1531936)
Posted by Mindmaster on November 26th, 2013 @ 6:29pm CST
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548203)
Posted by El Duque on February 5th, 2014 @ 5:36pm CST
Shout! Factory has also updated their listing for their Transformers Armada: The Complete Series with cover art. This set is scheduled to release on March 11th for $37.99. They are also offering a limited lithograph while supplies last. Check out the cover art, product details, and lithograph below.

PRODUCTS DETAILS
SPECIAL OFFER: Order this directly from ShoutFactory.com and receive an exclusive lithograph! Only 150 were printed, so these are available while supplies last.

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The Unicron Trilogy Begins

The fight between the valiant Autobots and treacherous Decepticons continues, but the fate of the war may lie in the hands of the small, power-enhancing Transformers known as Mini-Cons. With the aid of the Autobots, the Mini-Cons escape Cybertron, but their safety is short-lived after an attack cripples the ship and forces it to crash land in Earth’s solar system. Now, after millions of years in stasis, the Decepticons have been alerted to the Mini-Cons’ whereabouts and it’s up to the Autobots to protect them as well as all of humanity.

Discs: 8 Format: NTSC
Video region: Region 1
Color: Color
Language: English



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Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548206)
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 5th, 2014 @ 5:47pm CST
The art is glorious. 8)
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548208)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 5th, 2014 @ 5:56pm CST
Ah, now THAT's the Dreamwave art you incorporate into DVD releases a decade later.

Awesome as it is, I'm pretty sure I already have that image as a wraparound cover or insert or something, so I'll just let 150 fans whom Armada made a stronger impression on have those lithographs while I wait for the best deal on the set. I'd just graduated from college when Armada started, and the nostalgia I get from this and Toonami's recent addition of Samurai Jack is making me feel really old right now.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548215)
Posted by DeceptiCobra on February 5th, 2014 @ 6:44pm CST
Awesome! Too bad I only buy Bluray now... :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548223)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 5th, 2014 @ 7:17pm CST
Oh look, it's that old Dreamwave art from over ten years ago. Totally never seen that before. :roll:
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548255)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 5th, 2014 @ 9:58pm CST
DeceptiCobra wrote:Awesome! Too bad I only buy Bluray now... :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD:


Hate to say it but I doubt this or any show pre-Animated will see a Blu-Ray release. I don't think they were shot in HD and might not look good after up-conversion.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548309)
Posted by gothsaurus on February 6th, 2014 @ 9:13am CST
Glad someone chimed in regarding the resolution. Good to know Animated was the first HD series.

Now, if we can pull for an Animated Blu-Ray release. *cheers* :KREMZEEK:
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:33pm CST
Say, did this ever get news'd? - http://www.shoutfactory.com/product/transformers-armada-vol-1

Volume 1 of Armada, containing just the first seven episodes.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548460)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 6th, 2014 @ 5:34pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:Awesome! Too bad I only buy Bluray now... :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD:


Hate to say it but I doubt this or any show pre-Animated will see a Blu-Ray release. I don't think they were shot in HD and might not look good after up-conversion.
Did the announced Blu-ray release of Victory get cancelled? I just searched Shout!'s site and couldn't find it.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1548461)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 6th, 2014 @ 5:41pm CST
Bumblevivisector wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:Awesome! Too bad I only buy Bluray now... :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD:


Hate to say it but I doubt this or any show pre-Animated will see a Blu-Ray release. I don't think they were shot in HD and might not look good after up-conversion.
Did the announced Blu-ray release of Victory get cancelled? I just searched Shout!'s site and couldn't find it.
Naturally, it was a fake listing.

Just as well since it's never even seen a Blu-Ray release in its own native country.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1553276)
Posted by El Duque on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:15pm CST
Our friends at Shout! Factory have been kind enough to send us an advanced copy of their upcoming Transformers Armada - The Complete Series DVD set! The set isn't scheduled to hit retail until March 11th, but we've got a sneak peek at the packaging below. Click here to pre-order the set over on Shout! Factory's website for $37.99.

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Posted by hinomars19 on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:35pm CST
That looks a million times better than the energon set :KREMZEEK:
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1553300)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:23pm CST
Pass. The content isn't any improvement over my Rhino DVD sets, so I'd only be buying it for the packaging, which is just old, recycled art from the Dreamwave era.

Though, reading the back description in Jim Conrad's voice feels really appropriate. :P

And, I find it funny how the fact that the Autobots have to protect humanity in addition to protecting the Mini-Cons looks tacked on like it was an afterthought. "The Mini-Cons are the most important thing in the world! They must be protected at all cost! ... Oh, and uh, some humans, gotta save them too." :lol:
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Posted by griftimus prime on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:50pm CST
should have put the dreamwave art on the outside. epic fail
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 4:53pm CST
griftimus prime wrote:should have put the dreamwave art on the outside. epic fail
They did. ALL of the art in this set is recycled from then. None of it is new.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (1553317)
Posted by UltraPrimal on February 24th, 2014 @ 5:38pm CST
I don't suppose they went back and fixed any of the many, many errors in the show?

I might get this on sale or something.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 5:43pm CST
UltraPrimal wrote:I don't suppose they went back and fixed any of the many, many errors in the show?
No one ever did for the English version. Only the Japanese version got fixed, but Hasbro doesn't own that version and doesn't care enough to want to.
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Posted by Anonymous on February 24th, 2014 @ 9:43pm CST
Let's put it this way, even if you pretty up a piece of turd, in the end it still looks and smells the same. Armada got some of the worst treatment here in the West. Never mind the fact that it was unfinished animation, but the fact there were so many errors with the script that it was embarrassing.

Sadly, it always seems that whatever Transformers series we get from Japan, there's also some weird production issues with it. If these guys offered a new transfer with both English and Japanese language with subtitles it would be a definite purchase for me.

The same goes with Japan when they get our productions of Transformers, you end up with weird stuff like in Beast Wars where Air Razor is a guy or the fact that DVD collection is missing 2 episodes (Bad Spark - which came with the BW2 Movie and Cutting edge)

Then there's Transformers Prime in Japan, where you don't even get the 3rd season.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 9:53pm CST
kary wrote:Let's put it this way, even if you pretty up a piece of turd, in the end it still looks and smells the same. Armada got some of the worst treatment here in the West. Never mind the fact that it was unfinished animation, but the fact there were so many errors with the script that it was embarrassing.
And how! The production both the Armada and Energon dubs were so rushed and so terrible that it's become a chore to sit through either.

kary wrote:Sadly, it always seems that whatever Transformers series we get from Japan, there's also some weird production issues with it.
Save for Cybertron, which did not have a rushed production and most of its changes seemed deliberate.

Same with RiD, as a lot of its dubbing issues were out of the dubbers hands thanks to 9/11.

kary wrote:If these guys offered a new transfer with both English and Japanese language with subtitles it would be a definite purchase for me.
Not sure dual-audio could work unless the time duration of the English version was equal to that of the Japanese version, but I'd definitely take a subtitled release with the Japanese audio.

Though, just as long as Hasbro itself stays far away from the subtitle script since their interference with the subtitles of the Shout! Factory Japanese G1 series DVD sets ruined those subtitles.

kary wrote:The same goes with Japan when they get our productions of Transformers, you end up with weird stuff like in Beast Wars where Air Razor is a guy or the fact that DVD collection is missing 2 episodes (Bad Spark - which came with the BW2 Movie and Cutting edge)
That's because those two episode weren't treated as part of the Japanese dub's episodes, being treated as feature films instead. Their removal is also was "Where is the Banana?" and "Remix: I Lost the Banana" were created.

kary wrote:Then there's Transformers Prime in Japan, where you don't even get the 3rd season.
Apparently, TF: Prime's Japanese dub bombed in the Japan that releasing season three over there may not be worth it for them. There's also the matter of Transformers Go! succeeding Prime season 2 in its stead, what with the altered ending done to episode 52 of TF: Prime. ;)
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Posted by Ultra Markus on February 24th, 2014 @ 10:43pm CST
"And, I find it funny how the fact that the Autobots have to protect humanity in addition to protecting the Mini-Cons looks tacked on like it was an afterthought. "The Mini-Cons are the most important thing in the world! They must be protected at all cost! ... Oh, and uh, some humans, gotta save them too."" :lol:
yeah, that is funny but its a kids show it isn't supposed to be logical! Any TF cartoon for that matter >:oP
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 24th, 2014 @ 11:13pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:yeah, that is funny but its a kids show it isn't supposed to be logical! Any TF cartoon for that matter >:oP
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Posted by YRQRM0 on February 25th, 2014 @ 2:30pm CST
Would be an instant buy if it had the improved animation...shame.
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Posted by LatoyaMartinez on April 9th, 2014 @ 12:40am CDT
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 2:08pm CDT
Soooo... here's something we never knew existed.

According to a discussion on this TFWiki talk page, a discovery has been made that episode 40 of Armada, "Remorse", was given a second English dub that contains some lines altered from its original English version, as well as the Unicron Battles version of the opening that original premiered with episode 41 instead.

The new lines that have been changed feature a new filter on the Autobots' voices that make them sound even more metallic and monotone than before, and now their dialogue mentions Smokescreen's name having been changed to Hoist two episodes earlier than when his name change was first brought up in Episode 42.

Further details on this are as follows:
Fred had his first line extended from "Is there any way we can fix Optimus?" to add, "the way we fixed up Smokescreen? I mean Hoist?", which required starting the line sooner and made his speech overlap with the animation of him just crying. Red Alert's response was then rewritten some to fit in another mention of Smokescreen's deal, going from...

"I'm sorry. It can't be done. Optimus's body released its Spark when it blocked the Hydra Cannon's blast, and without it, there's no way we can bring him back. I wish there was some way we could, but we're just going to have to pull ourselves together and carry on without him."

to...

"No. I'm sorry, we can't. Optimus's body released its Spark when it blocked the Hydra Cannon. We saved Smokescreen's Spark and were able to reformat him into Hoist. I wish there was some way that we could but... we're just going to have to carry on without him."

And sure enough, in the next scene, "Try and be more careful, Smokescreen!" was replaced with, "Please, try and be more careful, Hoist."

This discovery was first found on the Tubi TV streaming version of the episode, and has now been confirmed on Twitter to also exist on the Shout! Factory DVD release of the series, while the original Rhino DVD release had only the first dub version.

This makes me wonder if there might have been any other dub changes made at the time in any other episodes, which could also be found on the Shout! Factory DVD set.
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Posted by Bounti76 on July 20th, 2020 @ 6:26pm CDT
Thanks to our own Sabrblade, we have some interesting news about the
Armada episode 'Remorse'- a second English dub of the episode had been discovered!

Wait.... Armada? And an episode that aired nearly 17 years ago?? Apparently, it was discovered that a streaming service, TubiTV, used the Shout Factory version of the Armada series (instead of the original release on Rhino DVD and in that episode, a second English dub was discovered that slightly changes some plot details, as well as some lines changing significantly. Read on to discover what Sabrblade found out.

Sabrblade wrote:Soooo... here's something we never knew existed.

According to a discussion on this TFWiki talk page, a discovery has been made that episode 40 of Armada, "Remorse", was given a second English dub that contains some lines altered from its original English version, as well as the Unicron Battles version of the opening that original premiered with episode 41 instead.

The new lines that have been changed feature a new filter on the Autobots' voices that make them sound even more metallic and monotone than before, and now their dialogue mentions Smokescreen's name having been changed to Hoist two episodes earlier than when his name change was first brought up in Episode 42.

Further details on this are as follows:
Fred had his first line extended from "Is there any way we can fix Optimus?" to add, "the way we fixed up Smokescreen? I mean Hoist?", which required starting the line sooner and made his speech overlap with the animation of him just crying. Red Alert's response was then rewritten some to fit in another mention of Smokescreen's deal, going from...

"I'm sorry. It can't be done. Optimus's body released its Spark when it blocked the Hydra Cannon's blast, and without it, there's no way we can bring him back. I wish there was some way we could, but we're just going to have to pull ourselves together and carry on without him."

to...

"No. I'm sorry, we can't. Optimus's body released its Spark when it blocked the Hydra Cannon. We saved Smokescreen's Spark and were able to reformat him into Hoist. I wish there was some way that we could but... we're just going to have to carry on without him."

And sure enough, in the next scene, "Try and be more careful, Smokescreen!" was replaced with, "Please, try and be more careful, Hoist."

This discovery was first found on the Tubi TV streaming version of the episode, and has now been confirmed on Twitter to also exist on the Shout! Factory DVD release of the series, while the original Rhino DVD release had only the first dub version.

This makes me wonder if there might have been any other dub changes made at the time in any other episodes, which could also be found on the Shout! Factory DVD set.


Have any of you Armada fans noticed anything similar, if you have both DVD releases? Let us know below!
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Posted by o.supreme on July 20th, 2020 @ 9:02pm CDT
I have the entire series on DVD, the originals from Rhino. When it said , different dub, I initially thought it meant a different voice cast ( as in the case of Megatron in the first episode of Cybertron). But sine it's the same voices with different dialogue, that is quite some detective work Sabre. I'll never know Armada well enough to notice any changes in dialogue. I've been watching some BW on Tubi mostly for convenience. It's nice so many TF series Arron there even though I have them all on DVD.

If you were watching Armada for research, I'm sorry, if you were watching it for fun, I'm still sorry. ;)
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Posted by bvzxa on July 20th, 2020 @ 9:35pm CDT
It wouldnt surprise me as Cartoon Network rushed the show to be aired and pretty much the animation was either unfinished or poorly drawn. However in Japan when Micron Legend was released they got the full animation frame by frame for many episodes.

http://www.conventionscene.com/2014/03/05/scene-reviewed-transformers-armada-complete-series/
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:04pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:that is quite some detective work Sabre.
Heh, well, all I did was stumble upon the TFWiki talk page discussion. Bag of Magic Food was the user who discovered the change, Chris McFeely looked into it, and Twitter user SBGHaseo confirmed it for him. I'm just the messenger in this case.

But of course, this is not the only instance of a Unicron Trilogy series episode having two different dub versions. Energon's first episode got two different dubs as well. One that aired on TV that was more or less a faithful translation of the Japanese version, and a second new dub that first appeared on Paramount's DVD releases that contained significant line changes, moved some scenes around, and even cut out a shot or two for no good reason (example: A shot of Rad, Carlos, and Alexis as grownups was cut out of this second dub) begging the question of why this second version was made for that episode in the first place when the original version was perfectly serviceable.

The only translation error that was actually corrected by this second dub was a line in the first dub that had Alpha Q declare himself to be a servant of Unicron, which is what he was in the Dreamwave Energon comics but not in the cartoon. This line was omitted in the second dub of the episode, but every other change made to that episode by this second dub just seemed pointless.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (2072992)
Posted by TulioDude on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:30pm CDT
Maybe this is the sign we have been looking for!

Day 203 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:33pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:Maybe this is the sign we have been looking for!
But this dub is 17 years old.
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (2073001)
Posted by TulioDude on July 20th, 2020 @ 10:47pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
TulioDude wrote:Maybe this is the sign we have been looking for!
But this dub is 17 years old.

It's the winds of change...
Re: Transformers Armada The Complete Series 8-DVD set debuts March 11, 2014 (2073205)
Posted by Bag of Magic Food on July 21st, 2020 @ 11:00pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I'll never know Armada well enough to notice any changes in dialogue. I've been watching some BW on Tubi mostly for convenience.

Heh, I was only watching casually too, but I like reading TFWiki's write-ups after every story just to be sure I know who every character was and didn't miss anything, so it jumped out at me when the wiki failed to acknowledge new developments like a name change in the same episode. There may have been a few other episodes that had a different version of the intro narration than when online sources tell me each started; I had shrugged it off as Tubi messing around, since swapping the intros would be an easy edit for anyone to make, but if anyone's bored, you could go see if it's the Shout DVDs that differ there too! (You may also need the DVD for this series just because Tubi won't show episode 17, at least in my area right now. It may have something to do with the following episodes 18 through 39 having an issue with the sound leveling where voices are too quiet and/or sound effects are too loud, so maybe they've just been taking episodes down one at a time to work on redoing that.)

And while Tubi's catalog is generally based on the Shout Factory releases, which must be why you can't find the later seasons of Rescue Bots or either series called "Robots in Disguise" there, we also discovered that its Generation 1 episodes are ripped from the old Rhino DVDs, only with most of the commercial bumpers deleted, and with the 2.0 sound mix so you don't hear any of the infamous "bonus" sound effects Rhino added. The series is presented in the episode order from Shout's discs, though!

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