Transformers Collectors Club issue 28 cover: first look at Punch / Counterpunch exclusive!
Wednesday, July 29th, 2009 11:38AM CDT
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This cover gives us a first look at the upcoming club exclusive figure Punch/Counterpunch which is based off the famous and fan favourite Universe:Classics Series Sunstreeker/Sideswipe.
The TFCC exclusive figure Punch/Counterpunch will be available for purchase of the club's online store next year. Looking back at previous TFCC exclusives of the Deluxe Class size it will cost around the $80 US mark with a $40 US discount for club-members.
This magazine features a comic and is only available for TFCC members.
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Posted by DevastaTTor on July 29th, 2009 @ 11:45am CDT
Posted by First Gen on July 29th, 2009 @ 11:47am CDT
Posted by Seibertron on July 29th, 2009 @ 11:55am CDT
Here's hoping they don't screw up the head sculpt like they did with Club exclusive Astrotrain.
Posted by SilenceDoGood on July 29th, 2009 @ 11:59am CDT
Posted by Darth Bombshell on July 29th, 2009 @ 12:00pm CDT
Dead Metal wrote:The TFCC exclusive figure Punch/Counterpunch will be available for purchase of the club's online store next year. Looking back at previous TFCC exclusives of the Deluxe Class size it will cost around the $80 US mark with a $40 US discount for club-members.
I know it's a Club Exclusive, but that's a lot of money to pay for a $15 figure.
Posted by --B-- on July 29th, 2009 @ 12:18pm CDT
Is there a difference in the meberships 3rd (40 bucks) or 1st (62 bucks) class besides when you get your master collector?
*waits for CP's take on this new development*
Posted by Counterpunch on July 29th, 2009 @ 12:24pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Here's hoping they don't screw up the head sculpt like they did with Club exclusive Astrotrain.
Did you perhaps mean Nightbeat? Because I'm not sure what's wrong with the Club Astrotrain...
--B-- wrote:Well, that cements the fact that I am joining that club!
*waits for CP's take on this new development*
I'm going to be an exclusive and I'm going to sell-out.
Art, imitating life.
Posted by --B-- on July 29th, 2009 @ 12:34pm CDT
OMG THATS SO AWESOME tons of emoticons following post
But then I remembered who I was thinking of.
Posted by zombiebucket on July 29th, 2009 @ 12:37pm CDT
then this should be cool.
Posted by Dead Metal on July 29th, 2009 @ 12:46pm CDT
SilenceDoGood wrote:So, based on the art it looks like it could be a redeco of Universe Sideswipe and Sunstreaker with a new headmold
What did I post in the article?
Posted by soundwave13c on July 29th, 2009 @ 12:51pm CDT
Darth Bombshell wrote:Dead Metal wrote:The TFCC exclusive figure Punch/Counterpunch will be available for purchase of the club's online store next year. Looking back at previous TFCC exclusives of the Deluxe Class size it will cost around the $80 US mark with a $40 US discount for club-members.
I know it's a Club Exclusive, but that's a lot of money to pay for a $15 figure.
I agree, I guess it really depends on the quality of the paint apps
i think it is an awesome idea though, I never bought a tfcc exclusive
Posted by Kevinisprimal on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:04pm CDT
Posted by joevill on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:17pm CDT
soundwave13c wrote:Darth Bombshell wrote:Dead Metal wrote:The TFCC exclusive figure Punch/Counterpunch will be available for purchase of the club's online store next year. Looking back at previous TFCC exclusives of the Deluxe Class size it will cost around the $80 US mark with a $40 US discount for club-members.
I know it's a Club Exclusive, but that's a lot of money to pay for a $15 figure.
I agree, I guess it really depends on the quality of the paint apps
i think it is an awesome idea though, I never bought a tfcc exclusive
Did Nightbeat cost this much when it first came out?
Posted by City Commander on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:21pm CDT
I want this figure. And I also want Nightbeat.
Club members feel free to PM me, and we'll talk. I'd love to own both, but joining to club has no merit for UK residents, so hook a brah up yo!
They'll look spiffy alongside my universe season 3 figures.
Posted by allspark99 on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:25pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:27pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Seibertron wrote:Here's hoping they don't screw up the head sculpt like they did with Club exclusive Astrotrain.
Did you perhaps mean Nightbeat? Because I'm not sure what's wrong with the Club Astrotrain...
You're kidding, right?
That could possibly be one of the worst Transformers head sculpts ever. Look how fugly his face is! What's with the eyes? What about his weird mouth/lips? Yikes. I'd definitely put it toward the bottom of the list. No wonder why the club can't give that figure away.
I thought about adding Nightbeat and Kup to the list, but didn't want to turn this into a debate about what was a good head sculpt. I thought Astrotrain's head was widely considered one of the worst head sculpts ever. The face sculpt of Nightbeat is fine ... it's just that he's missing his antennae which I customized by drilling some holes and using a pair of Wild Bill's guns. Problem solved and still transforms.
The original and Classics Astrotrain had excellent head sculpts, in my opinion. The club exclusive was not.
Posted by Convotron on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:28pm CDT
Posted by City Commander on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:40pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Seibertron wrote:Here's hoping they don't screw up the head sculpt like they did with Club exclusive Astrotrain.
Did you perhaps mean Nightbeat? Because I'm not sure what's wrong with the Club Astrotrain...
You're kidding, right?
That could possibly be one of the worst Transformers head sculpts ever. Look how fugly his face is! What's with the eyes? What about his weird mouth/lips? Yikes. I'd definitely put it toward the bottom of the list. No wonder why the club can't give that figure away.
I thought about adding Nightbeat and Kup to the list, but didn't want to turn this into a debate about what was a good head sculpt. I thought Astrotrain's head was widely considered one of the worst head sculpts ever. The face sculpt of Nightbeat is fine ... it's just that he's missing his antennae which I customized by drilling some holes and using a pair of Wild Bill's guns. Problem solved and still transforms.
The original and Classics Astrotrain had excellent head sculpts, in my opinion. The club exclusive was not.
It's a massive shame since the rest of the figure is pure love. But I find the eyes are a tad too bloated to be acceptable, and yes thinking about it the mouth is a little off. Not too bad, but definetly not the prettiest.
There's nothing wrong with Nightbeat though. Sure, he's missing the antenna, but like you said, nothing that can't be fixed with some basic kitbashing skils.
Posted by Dead Metal on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:48pm CDT
joevill wrote:soundwave13c wrote:Darth Bombshell wrote:Dead Metal wrote:The TFCC exclusive figure Punch/Counterpunch will be available for purchase of the club's online store next year. Looking back at previous TFCC exclusives of the Deluxe Class size it will cost around the $80 US mark with a $40 US discount for club-members.
I know it's a Club Exclusive, but that's a lot of money to pay for a $15 figure.
I agree, I guess it really depends on the quality of the paint apps
i think it is an awesome idea though, I never bought a tfcc exclusive
Did Nightbeat cost this much when it first came out?
Yes.
Posted by Counterpunch on July 29th, 2009 @ 1:56pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:You're kidding, right?
That could possibly be one of the worst Transformers head sculpts ever. Look how fugly his face is! What's with the eyes? What about his weird mouth/lips? Yikes. I'd definitely put it toward the bottom of the list. No wonder why the club can't give that figure away.
Nope, I wasn't kidding at all.
Astrotrain is pretty much a non-character to me. He's there, but he's not someone with a distincitve look. He's got a helmet head and a bit of a mohawk. He's too generic in his head look for me to require any specific detailing on it other than helmet, cheek guards, and stern/blank expression. I guess I'm a 'can't see the trees because of the forrest' type person.
I don't remember anyone specifically disliking him due to the headsculpt. I actually remember most people being quite happy about it because the other option was the Jetfire turned Spacewave head in purple. I always thought the turn off in the sales for the toy was the price tag at a minimum of 3.5x the retail cost for an Armada mold.
Actually, when he was released, I remember him being about $120 and as such, nearly 5x retail.
The prices include a Mini-Con set, but that gets largely forgotten.
(plus, they over-produced him big time...)
Posted by Seibertron on July 29th, 2009 @ 2:04pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Actually, when he was released, I remember him being about $120 and as such, nearly 5x retail.
The prices include a Mini-Con set, but that gets largely forgotten.
(plus, they over-produced him big time...)
I'm pretty sure he was $80 for club members. Those prices have always been pretty consistent with club and convention exclusives which are always 3 to 5 times the amount of a comparable retail figure.
Posted by Segor on July 29th, 2009 @ 2:05pm CDT
http://www.angelfire.com/mech/jinsaotom ... punch.html
It was kind of cool, but I didn't like the colors, this one looks like would have better colors though... NO ofense to mister Saotome, he is still the Master on Customs an I love his work
Guys, is there someone out there who's member of the club and lives outside the States who can give me some feedback??, I'll like to know if it's worthy enough to join if you live in Costa Rica.
Thanks!!
Posted by Seibertron on July 29th, 2009 @ 2:06pm CDT
Kevinisprimal wrote:For some strange reason, this is exactly how I predicted the toy would actually BE. I've seen this type of work done before in the customs section, but still, this is slightly more impressive then even Jin Saotome's version. Why? Because it's more G1 acurate.
Welcome aboard, Kevinisprimal.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on July 29th, 2009 @ 2:09pm CDT
Posted by Dead Metal on July 29th, 2009 @ 3:17pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Seibertron wrote:You're kidding, right?
That could possibly be one of the worst Transformers head sculpts ever. Look how fugly his face is! What's with the eyes? What about his weird mouth/lips? Yikes. I'd definitely put it toward the bottom of the list. No wonder why the club can't give that figure away.
Nope, I wasn't kidding at all.
The most fugly head-sculpt of all time is BotCon Ironhide/Ratchet:
Posted by Sabrblade on July 29th, 2009 @ 3:31pm CDT
Posted by G.B. Blackrock on July 29th, 2009 @ 4:37pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Actually, when he was released, I remember him being about $120 and as such, nearly 5x retail.
The prices include a Mini-Con set, but that gets largely forgotten.
(plus, they over-produced him big time...)
I'm pretty sure he was $80 for club members. Those prices have always been pretty consistent with club and convention exclusives which are always 3 to 5 times the amount of a comparable retail figure.
Actually, Nightbeat was $48 (not $40, as is laterally suggested by the 2nd post in this thread) for club members, and Astrotrain et al was $87. (For questions regarding exclusive costs, consult the datasheet).
You can argue that translates into $88 for non-members (or $127 for Astrotrain), but that's really misleading. If you pay the $88, you become a member. It's the $40 membership fee tacked on to the $48 (or $87) figure cost, and you get the magazine and incentive figure, too. There's really no such thing as a "non-member" price for these figures, and it's confusing to say there is (even if Fun Pub themselves do so).
Posted by joevill on July 29th, 2009 @ 4:52pm CDT
Posted by City Commander on July 29th, 2009 @ 4:53pm CDT
G.B. Blackrock wrote:Seibertron wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Actually, when he was released, I remember him being about $120 and as such, nearly 5x retail.
The prices include a Mini-Con set, but that gets largely forgotten.
(plus, they over-produced him big time...)
I'm pretty sure he was $80 for club members. Those prices have always been pretty consistent with club and convention exclusives which are always 3 to 5 times the amount of a comparable retail figure.
Actually, Nightbeat was $48 (not $40, as is laterally suggested by the 2nd post in this thread) for club members, and Astrotrain et al was $87. (For questions regarding exclusive costs, consult the datasheet).
You can argue that translates into $88 for non-members (or $127 for Astrotrain), but that's really misleading. If you pay the $88, you become a member. It's the $40 membership fee tacked on to the $48 (or $87) figure cost, and you get the magazine and incentive figure, too. There's really no such thing as a "non-member" price for these figures, and it's confusing to say there is (even if Fun Pub themselves do so).
I'm with the smart guy!
Posted by Bouncy X on July 29th, 2009 @ 5:30pm CDT
he was always fun to play with, good sturdy robot mode and cool car mode.
Posted by skywarp-2 on July 29th, 2009 @ 5:34pm CDT
Maybe we'll see these as well..
Downshift:
Dead end:
Posted by NuclearConvoy on July 29th, 2009 @ 5:43pm CDT
Posted by Samsonator on July 29th, 2009 @ 5:57pm CDT
I mean, take Sideswipe (or even Sunstreaker) and transform him the other way, and you'll note that his hands end up upside down. What is Punch/Counterpunch gonna have a thumb on either side of his fingers, like the Elites in Halo?
Posted by Savage on July 29th, 2009 @ 6:09pm CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on July 29th, 2009 @ 6:38pm CDT
G.B. Blackrock wrote:You can argue that translates into $88 for non-members (or $127 for Astrotrain),
That's right. I legitimately forgot how much they were.
I even went back to the club store account I have to see the pricing for them and oddly enough Astrotrain and Airrazor were the only two NOT in my purchase history (though I bought them when they first came out).
Posted by Delicon on July 29th, 2009 @ 7:49pm CDT
G.B. Blackrock wrote:Actually, Nightbeat was $48 (not $40, as is laterally suggested by the 2nd post in this thread) for club members, and Astrotrain et al was $87. (For questions regarding exclusive costs, consult the datasheet).
You can argue that translates into $88 for non-members (or $127 for Astrotrain), but that's really misleading. If you pay the $88, you become a member. It's the $40 membership fee tacked on to the $48 (or $87) figure cost, and you get the magazine and incentive figure, too. There's really no such thing as a "non-member" price for these figures, and it's confusing to say there is (even if Fun Pub themselves do so).
Did I mention I'm glad you started posting on Seibertron.com?
Posted by NuclearConvoy on July 29th, 2009 @ 8:54pm CDT
Samsonator wrote:Am I the only one curious as to how the whole bit with both modes having properly oriented hands is gonna work out?
I mean, take Sideswipe (or even Sunstreaker) and transform him the other way, and you'll note that his hands end up upside down. What is Punch/Counterpunch gonna have a thumb on either side of his fingers, like the Elites in Halo?
Actually, very likely that. Or, they simply make the hands look less detailed so that wrong sided thumbs don't exist.
Personally, I'm hoping for the double thumbs...but that might cost more to do.
I am also hoping that his head has some moving bits to it, so as to cover up the face on the other side when he is in the opposite mode, like the G1 toy did.
Once we get some prototype pics we'll know for certain, and if he has that much work in him I may get two, to display at the same time in each mode.
I'm also hoping for a custom instructions sheet, seeing as the original toy wasn't designed to transform exactly the way the cover image makes it look, according to Hasbro's instructions for Sideswipe and Sunstreaker (their legs don't change, accoding to my instruction, but are certainly capable of being differentiated as the drawing shows)
Posted by Swiftpaw on July 29th, 2009 @ 8:59pm CDT
Posted by schmungbeen on July 29th, 2009 @ 11:16pm CDT
Posted by G.B. Blackrock on July 31st, 2009 @ 3:29pm CDT
joevill wrote:I got a question, will this be just one figure or two? I read somewhere about this and it kept referring to this new exclusive in the plural form.
If someone else has explicitly answered this already, I missed it, so I'll go ahead here.
It's just one figure. Perhaps you weren't around for Generation One Punch/Counterpunch, way back in 1987, which this new club figure homages. Basically, it's a figure that has two robot forms, in addition to a vehicle mode. Each robot mode is intended to belong to the opposing faction. Punch (the Autobot) is the "real" personality, but poses as Counterpunch (the Decepticon) for espionage purposes (he's often referred to as the "Doublespy," which perhaps makes this more clear).
In concept, Animated did something rather similar this past year with Shockwave/Longarm.