Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine #60 Cover Art - The Destructons

Va'al wrote:Recently tweeted from the official Transformers Collectors' Club account is the cover image for the 60th issue of their magazine. And who does it feature? The Destructons. Check out the mirrored image below, and let us know what you make of it - could there be toys in the Club's plans for the future?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:You know Sabrblade, we could start a drinking game with you: every time you mention the Primax 209.0 Gamma story we all take a shot of high-grade Energon.

Stormtalon wrote:A Centaur-man and a Snake-man? You sure this isn't just Mega Man?

Stormtalon wrote:A Centaur-man and a Snake-man? You sure this isn't just Mega Man?

Sabrblade wrote:At the BotCon Retrospective Panel at this year's con, there were 20 concepts shown for toy ideas that the Club had had for exclusives, but were never made. The first 10 were ideas that never got past conception, and the secone 10 were ones that were approved but then rejected. In the second group were two concepts for a Bruton toy. One was to have been made from the Generations FOC Voyager Grimlock mold, and the other was to have been made from the Prime First Edition Voyager Bulkhead mold. But both were canned due to Bruton being considered far too obscure to be desirable.

And seeing as how neither of these molds would really do Bruton proper justice, I'm glad neither were made.


Also, just for funsies, have some nightmare fuel:

Mindmaster wrote:Also, broken image is broken.

Mindmaster wrote:Out of curiosity, what were the other nineteen concepts?

20 Years, 20 Exclusives That Never Were.

The first 10 never even made it past conception, the second ten were approved but then rejected

1 – Hardshell (G1 Bombshell) from Generations Darkmount/Straxus

2 – Overlord from ROTF Mindwipe

3 – Hubcap from Animated Soundwave

4 – "Marlboro" from ROTF Lockdown

5 – "Femme Fatale Cykill" from Prime First Edition Arcee

6 – "Predaking BW Style" from Beast Wars Tigerhawk

7 – Shattered Glass Stranglehold from 2010 Deluxe Axor, would have had a mustache

8 – Skyquake and King Atlas (I think?) from Universe Ultra Silverbolt

9 – The Turbomasters w/ Thunderclash from Prime RID Ultra Magnus and four Prime RID Deluxe car molds (Wheeljack, Bumblebee, etc.)

10 – Twilight Sparkle Prime from Beast Wars Neo Mach Kick

What You Almost Got

11 – G1 Ransack from Generations FOC Kickback w/ two Arms Microns

12 – Three pirates from PRID Wheeljack, PRID Dreadwing, Generations FOC Air Raid (Wheeljack was almost this year's Cannonball)

13 – Bumper from Prime RID Rumble

14 – G1 Crosshairs from Generations Kup

15 – Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead

16 – Bruton from Generations FOC Grimlock

17 – Bruton from Prime First Edition Bulkhead

18 – Machine Wars Prowl from Classics Mirage (was replaced by Machine Wars Mirage)

19 – Machine Wars Hubcap from Generations Kup w/ the MW Hoist/Electrons headsculpt

Teasing us with Animated drawings, Sideswipe, Jackpot, Jhiaxus, Goldbug, purple Blackout

20 – The original plan for 2011's Animated set: Toxic Mayhem – BugBite (Animated Hydrodrive Bumblebee) and Toxitron (Animated Wingblade Optimus Prime) vs. Jackpot (which we did get later) and Kup (Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime). Animated Sideswipe would have been based on the SG deco instead of the G2 deco. Animated Tigatron from Rodimus. Animated Shokaract from Blackout. Animated Springer from Swindle. Animated Flamewar, Nightracer, and one other black & green Con fembot (missed the name of this one) from Arcee. Plus G1-colors Breakdown and Action Master colors Thundercracker (both of which we did wind up getting).


One proposal that couldn’t be found was told to us instead: a BotCon Alternators box set. Four figure box set. Galvatron from Wheeljack (new head). Cyclonus from Mirage. Ultra Magnus from Optimus. Rodimus from somebody (but we got one anyway).

The Ultra Mammoth idea came out earlier than it was revealed, in like 2012 or so. And since we got a BW version of Ultra Magnus, and there was already a BW version of Optimus, who does that leave that's missing...?

Bonus 21 – Rodimouse from Transmetal Rattrap!

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Those all sound horrible with the exception of ransack, skyquake, and king atlas.

Sabrblade wrote:Lemme try a different host:

1 – Hardshell (G1 Bombshell) from Generations Darkmount/Straxus

4 – "Marlboro" from ROTF Lockdown

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Out of curiosity, what were the other nineteen concepts?

Quoted from my own coverage of the panel:

20 Years, 20 Exclusives That Never Were.

The first 10 never even made it past conception, the second ten were approved but then rejected

1 – Hardshell (G1 Bombshell) from Generations Darkmount/Straxus

2 – Overlord from ROTF Mindwipe

3 – Hubcap from Animated Soundwave

4 – "Marlboro" from ROTF Lockdown

5 – "Femme Fatale Cykill" from Prime First Edition Arcee

6 – "Predaking BW Style" from Beast Wars Tigerhawk

7 – Shattered Glass Stranglehold from 2010 Deluxe Axor, would have had a mustache

8 – Skyquake and King Atlas (I think?) from Universe Ultra Silverbolt

9 – The Turbomasters w/ Thunderclash from Prime RID Ultra Magnus and four Prime RID Deluxe car molds (Wheeljack, Bumblebee, etc.)

10 – Twilight Sparkle Prime from Beast Wars Neo Mach Kick

What You Almost Got

11 – G1 Ransack from Generations FOC Kickback w/ two Arms Microns

12 – Three pirates from PRID Wheeljack, PRID Dreadwing, Generations FOC Air Raid (Wheeljack was almost this year's Cannonball)

13 – Bumper from Prime RID Rumble

14 – G1 Crosshairs from Generations Kup

15 – Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead

16 – Bruton from Generations FOC Grimlock

17 – Bruton from Prime First Edition Bulkhead

18 – Machine Wars Prowl from Classics Mirage (was replaced by Machine Wars Mirage)

19 – Machine Wars Hubcap from Generations Kup w/ the MW Hoist/Electrons headsculpt

Teasing us with Animated drawings, Sideswipe, Jackpot, Jhiaxus, Goldbug, purple Blackout

20 – The original plan for 2011's Animated set: Toxic Mayhem – BugBite (Animated Hydrodrive Bumblebee) and Toxitron (Animated Wingblade Optimus Prime) vs. Jackpot (which we did get later) and Kup (Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime). Animated Sideswipe would have been based on the SG deco instead of the G2 deco. Animated Tigatron from Rodimus. Animated Shokaract from Blackout. Animated Springer from Swindle. Animated Flamewar, Nightracer, and one other black & green Con fembot (missed the name of this one) from Arcee. Plus G1-colors Breakdown and Action Master colors Thundercracker (both of which we did wind up getting).


One proposal that couldn’t be found was told to us instead: a BotCon Alternators box set. Four figure box set. Galvatron from Wheeljack (new head). Cyclonus from Mirage. Ultra Magnus from Optimus. Rodimus from somebody (but we got one anyway).

The Ultra Mammoth idea came out earlier than it was revealed, in like 2012 or so. And since we got a BW version of Ultra Magnus, and there was already a BW version of Optimus, who does that leave that's missing...?

Bonus 21 – Rodimouse from Transmetal Rattrap!

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Man, good thing Bruton sucks as both a character and a concept, they were right to reject
aaaaaand fixed, try posting the image, not the page next time

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Man, good thing Bruton sucks as both a character and a concept, they were right to reject
aaaaaand fixed, try posting the image, not the page next time

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Those all sound horrible with the exception of ransack, skyquake, and king atlas.

From what I recall, the most well received ideas from the audience were numbers 4, 6, 8, 9, 10 (the whole room went nuts over this one, with everyone either loving it or hating it), 11, 15, 18, 19, 20, the Alternators set, and 21.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:ROTF Lockdown does not fit for a diaclone wheeljack homage, knowing the club they should've just reused Generations wheeljack for it, makes the most sense.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:BW's Prediking would've been interesting, but pointless.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Machine wars, well if they wanted to stay slavish to the toys like thundercracker and mirage then they would've made for piss poor exclusives.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Toxic Mayhem sounds like a mishmash of animated characters, The Stunti-con job was at least united by a solid theme.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Rodimouse is genuinely the stupidest transformer concept the club's ever produced; I hate it, and everything it represents.

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:ROTF Lockdown does not fit for a diaclone wheeljack homage, knowing the club they should've just reused Generations wheeljack for it, makes the most sense.

The idea probably came about in the years before Generations Wheeljack existed. Not all of these ideas were recent ones. These spanned Fun Pub entire run of the convention, which goes back as far as 2005.

The audience seemed to take to it solely because of the Marlboor Wheeljack homage, which they found amusing.

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:BW's Prediking would've been interesting, but pointless.

Eh, from what I remember of it, the Tigerhawk mold looked pretty cool in yellow, orange, and black.

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.

The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Machine wars, well if they wanted to stay slavish to the toys like thundercracker and mirage then they would've made for piss poor exclusives.

People were upset enough that Prowl and Hubcap got left out of the 2013 exclusive lineup, and many still feel that Electro was an unnecessary inclusion that robbed Hubcap (the sole new Autobot character of the line) of his chance for getting a new toy.

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Toxic Mayhem sounds like a mishmash of animated characters, The Stunti-con job was at least united by a solid theme.

A lot of yearly sets feel like mishmashes (take this year's for instance). It all depends on what the story would have been like.

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Rodimouse is genuinely the stupidest transformer concept the club's ever produced; I hate it, and everything it represents.

To each his own. The crowd erupted with applause and laughter when they saw a Rodimus-decoed TM Rattrap appear onscreen. One of those "so out-there crazy it's awesome" ideas.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:BW's Prediking would've been interesting, but pointless.

Eh, from what I remember of it, the Tigerhawk mold looked pretty cool in yellow, orange, and black.

Knowing the mold, it looked better in black gray, and purples

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.

The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.

And there is a prime example of why some characters deserve their own mold, and why the club can never do justice to them, *cough* chromedome, *cough* Rewind.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Toxic Mayhem sounds like a mishmash of animated characters, The Stunti-con job was at least united by a solid theme.

A lot of yearly sets feel like mishmashes (take this year's for instance). It all depends on what the story would have been like.

To be fair though, if you think hard enough, the character choice can make a theme, 2014 for example is different aspects of G1; japanese, americana, marvel comics, sunbow cartoon, toys, and botcon exclusives.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.

The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.

And there is a prime example of why some characters deserve their own mold, and why the club can never do justice to them, *cough* chromedome, *cough* Rewind.

Sabrblade wrote:
The first 10 never even made it past conception, the second ten were approved but then rejected

6 – "Predaking BW Style" from Beast Wars Tigerhawk

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.

The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.

And there is a prime example of why some characters deserve their own mold, and why the club can never do justice to them, *cough* chromedome, *cough* Rewind.

Blame Hasbro.

Oh come on, I'm pretty damn skippy that most of the toys fun pub's been putting on the market these past few years are more so the result of internal "office" politics between the club and the transformer people at Hasbro , than Hasbro not wanting to get off their asses despite what they say.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The Destructons? I... find them stupid.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The Destructons? I... find them stupid.

I..............Agree

Sabrblade wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The Destructons? I... find them stupid.

I..............Agree

The latest story made them interesting with backstories rooted in pathos.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know I give the club a hard time, I do, because Im fickle. However, I'm going to be amazingly pissed if the secret figure is G2 nightracer from generations tailgate. That mold sucks, so hard, and I genuinely adore nightracers character design from before timelines #9 where they screwed it all up by giving her a new body based on generations tailgate.

RiddlerJ wrote:They should use the Animated Arcee mold. That's what it looked like before the Tailgate switch.

RiddlerJ wrote:On another note, TFCC really needs to produce new figures for the rest of the Action Masters that never had transforming figures before. I think those are the most inventive of their repaints.

Mkall wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:On another note, TFCC really needs to produce new figures for the rest of the Action Masters that never had transforming figures before. I think those are the most inventive of their repaints.

Agreed. They are some of my most favourite Club offerings in recent years.

Sabrblade wrote:And the Club likely won't use Animated molds for anything that isn't Animated.