Transformers Collectors' Club Subscription Service 3.0 Carzap with G.B. Blackrock Now Arriving

Honestly? He wasn't on my most anticipated list for the TFSS, let alone my list of figures that I'd want to rave about, but in hand, I feel like he's the best use of this mold so far, and a great figure. No tampos or paint running into the unpaintable plastic and suddenly stopping, no thin paint discolored by the black plastic of the forearms, reserved paint apps that bring out the details without overwhelming, and they fixed the forearm 5mm slots so the weapon halves can peg in under them again. Only thing wrong with mine is the ball joints for the feet seem to still have mold release fluid on them, making them too slick. I'll fix that tomorrow.

That's good to hear, the ports under the arms on Nightbeat and JP Gold Bumblebee are useless for posing without the use of blu-tac, so this guy should be a bit nicer to pose.

Perfect for my Neo G2 collection.

Don't tell me the only instructions to build the gas pump are just two pictures?

I got Lio Convoy today but I'm selling it to my friend since he's more into it. Not even opening the box, although I probably should now that I'm thinking about it. Really more into Nova Prime.

me too. I so wish Nova Prime was the club incentive figure instead of Lio

I think I'll be more into Lio. I've been liking the Beast Wars inspired figures, and the mold works for Nova Prime, but it's not perfect. Plus, the cat face on Lio in alt-mode is adorable.

Carzap comparisons





Nova Prime comparisons

I got Carzap! He's pretty danged cool. It's my first Kreo set. Should be fun to assemble.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I got Carzap! He's pretty danged cool. It's my first Kreo set. Should be fun to assemble.

Let us know if there are instructions for the build please.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I got Carzap! He's pretty danged cool. It's my first Kreo set. Should be fun to assemble.

Let us know if there are instructions for the build please.

There are not. There is just a picture of the final product fully built to draw reference from when building it. But, they later put full building instructions on YouTube:

How many months till the next TFSS figure?

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I got Carzap! He's pretty danged cool. It's my first Kreo set. Should be fun to assemble.

Let us know if there are instructions for the build please.

There are not. There is just a picture of the final product fully built to draw reference from when building it. But, they later put full building instructions on YouTube:

Yeah, as Sabrblade said, there aren't any. And it's... kinda dumb they didn't have them. A YouTube video is not an adequate substitute.

And thanks for the video, Sabr.

Regardless of including instructions or not, the final build is not a very stable one. I had to ignore part of the official configuration in order to make the final build a more solid piece, at the cost of having Blackrock's control console for the cannon mode stick out further away from where Blackrock stands, but he can still reach it.

Growing up with more Lego than I ever should have had made that thing an easy build. Now I haven't had new Lego for over a decade, but that Kreo kit just feels so much cheaper than the Lego i do have - is this a normal thing?

I am not sure where I saw this, I think it was on Facebook somewhere. For those who want to make their Nova Prime a bit more different than Lio Convoy, you can take those arm bits off and make little wing bits. I am using my Lio Convoy to show this because I don't have Nova Prime at this time. You just detach the arm bits and put them on the opposite shoulder kinda wedging them on wheel hinge. They stay on surprisingly well.

Cool!

Singaporean fansite Planet Iacon has uploaded in-hand images of Transformers Collectors' Club Subscription Service Tarantulas & Serpent O.R.! The demented spider is based off the Reveal the Shield Wreck-Gar mold, and more specifically the E-hobby retool Scrapheap which has only been released stateside once before as the Shattered Glass Botcon Exclusive Scrap Iron. Tarantulas is sporting his original (pre-Transmetal) deco primarily purple with yellow/green accents, but homages the Transmetal version with his two wheeled bike mode. Serpent O.R. is a repaint of Takara Generations TG-20 Ratbat (originally Generations Scourge) and is based on G.I Joe's Cobra Emperor Serpentor making him a rare dual franchise figure! See the images below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

Tarantulas looks awesome!

Not sure about Serpent O.R., though... The in-hand pics make him out to be much brighter and less metallic than expected. At least there seems to be no risk of GPS.

I know that it would seem redundant seeing that Gens Senator Ratbat had the metallic plastic/paint, but Serpent, Oregon really need metallic pant, at least on the gold bits. It really looks like a horrible yellow, like armada hotshot/hulk hogan levels of yellow.

Pretty clever giving Serpent O.R. that alt mode. Looks almost like the air chariot the 80s G.I.Joe figure was packaged with the first time around.

Tarantulas looks epic

So, the same year Serpent O.R. is in the FSS, Hasbro releases Viper. I wonder if they were meant to go together, because this is a hell of a coincidence otherwise.

Nemesis Primal wrote:So, the same year Serpent O.R. is in the FSS, Hasbro releases Viper. I wonder if they were meant to go together, because this is a hell of a coincidence otherwise.

I could see it being a coincidence since the Club might have seen the Ratbat head and got the idea of Serpent O.R. first, with the main Hasbro brand team doing Viper independently since team member John Warden was the lead designer on the G.I. Joe brand team from 2006 to 2013.

If not for the brand team having the former Joe lead designer in it, I too would be more inclined to consider it more than coincidental, but his being there helps open the possibility of the Club and the brand team coincidentally doing their own separate Joe-based homages.

Tarantulas isn't too bad, but Serpent O.R. looks like a knockoff compared to the one in images (or Ratbat with the great gold paint). It looks like they wanted to make the orange gold going by the fingers and the little trapezoid on the top of his alt mode. Lime green is rather offputting, too. Shame, that was the one I thought would be most interesting of the sub. Maybe it's better under proper lighting, I'll reserve judgment for the Seibertron gallery.

Emerje

Really over these G.I. Joe/TransFormers crossover figures... can we stop trying to make that happen?
Tarantulas looks fantastic... I can't wait to see his claws in a more show accurate positioning. I really do wonder if he glows-in-the-dark

Yeah the amount of GI Joe being shoved down transformer fans throats by both the club and hasbro is starting to get disturbing. I can see the club slapping a Joe in a wheelchair and calling him Chip Chase. Then theyll gloat how the wheelchair is an original mold like they did with the ape shell.

Rated X wrote:Yeah the amount of GI Joe being shoved down transformer fans throats by both the club and hasbro is starting to get disturbing. I can see the club slapping a Joe in a wheelchair and calling him Chip Chase. Then theyll gloat how the wheelchair is an original mold like they did with the ape shell.

And people would still buy it.

By the way, no G.I. Joe, no Transformers. G.I. Joe lead to Henshin Cyborg and Microman, which lead to Diaclone, which in turn lead to The Transformers.

prjkt wrote:Growing up with more Lego than I ever should have had made that thing an easy build. Now I haven't had new Lego for over a decade, but that Kreo kit just feels so much cheaper than the Lego i do have - is this a normal thing?

A lot of these Fake-lego brands are known for being very cheap, in price and in quality. I once bought some stuff from Megabloks. Some sort of technic-action figure that turned into a ball and could launch a rotor. I actually threw them out because they smelled horribly, and the quality was atrocious.

wilcosu35 wrote:

prjkt wrote:Growing up with more Lego than I ever should have had made that thing an easy build. Now I haven't had new Lego for over a decade, but that Kreo kit just feels so much cheaper than the Lego i do have - is this a normal thing?

A lot of these Fake-lego brands are known for being very cheap, in price and in quality. I once bought some stuff from Megabloks. Some sort of technic-action figure that turned into a ball and could launch a rotor. I actually threw them out because they smelled horribly, and the quality was atrocious.

I wouldn't call them "fake" per se, since the basic building block design patent is now Public Domain. Kre-O can feel cheap and some clips and ball joints can be loose, but overall, nothing dramatically wrong with the blocks themselves.

I've seen better.

I just realized that Tarantulus and Serpent OR use the same (or very similar) color palettes/plastics... I wonder if this Serpent is a test shot? Or maybe this is the real thing, and they lightened up the palette to save on costs?

Tarantulus looks awesome. As an avid Beast Wars fan, he is definitely one I would like to track down. Serpent-OR does not look good to me, I have no interest in that figure, which is kind of weird considering I'm a bigger GI Joe Fan than I am a TF fan.

Those angry about the crossovers.... I really don't get.

There's only three I can think of: Viper, Serpentor, and Marissa. I don't count the SDCC Joe stuff and those are more for the the Joe fans, while the former are more for us.

That's what y'all consider "forcing down our throats"?

shajaki wrote:Those angry about the crossovers.... I really don't get.

There's only three I can think of: Viper, Serpentor, and Marissa. I don't count the SDCC Joe stuff and those are more for the the Joe fans, while the former are more for us.

That's what y'all consider "forcing down our throats"?

It's probably the use of G.I. Joe figures on some releases:

- B.A.T.S. with Old Snake
- Marissa with Afterbreaker
- Rodimus & Arcee synthoids

People have been begging for this kind of stuff for years. Old Snake, Marissa Faireborn, the "Only Human" Autobot Synthoids... And now that we finally get these things after waiting 30 years... this reaction comes along.

This fandom, I swear.

Sabrblade wrote:People have been begging for this kind of stuff for years. Old Snake, Marissa Faireborn, the "Only Human" Autobot Synthoids... And now that we finally get these things after waiting 30 years... this reaction comes along.

This fandom, I swear.

Is the G.I. Joe fandom any better? Are they complaining about getting transforming figures?

Sabrblade wrote:People have been begging for this kind of stuff for years. Old Snake, Marissa Faireborn, the "Only Human" Autobot Synthoids... And now that we finally get these things after waiting 30 years... this reaction comes along.

This fandom, I swear.

People have different likes and dislikes, the fandom as a whole is not a single entity. I'm sure the same people begging for this aren't the ones complaining.

mooncake623 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:People have been begging for this kind of stuff for years. Old Snake, Marissa Faireborn, the "Only Human" Autobot Synthoids... And now that we finally get these things after waiting 30 years... this reaction comes along.

This fandom, I swear.

People have different likes and dislikes, the fandom as a whole is not a single entity. I'm sure the same people begging for this aren't the ones complaining.

Looking good. A little sad to see the gem missing for the Microns. They add a little something I like. Still, nice to see they made it to production and also have the paint apps that weren't guaranteed.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Yeah the amount of GI Joe being shoved down transformer fans throats by both the club and hasbro is starting to get disturbing. I can see the club slapping a Joe in a wheelchair and calling him Chip Chase. Then theyll gloat how the wheelchair is an original mold like they did with the ape shell.

And people would still buy it.

By the way, no G.I. Joe, no Transformers. G.I. Joe lead to Henshin Cyborg and Microman, which lead to Diaclone, which in turn lead to The Transformers.

I appreciate G.I. Joe, I just don't buy that shit (excluding any Channing Tatum sculpt). And as you pointed out further down (or up from here), there is a decent amount of it… I view this crossover as having a niche market, so I feel like all these figures are sort of wasted space/potential. One or two, fine, but what, there's like 6-10? So much to pass over. And I don't think most of the G.I. Joe fandom really cares all that much about TransFormers figures

IMO

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Yeah the amount of GI Joe being shoved down transformer fans throats by both the club and hasbro is starting to get disturbing. I can see the club slapping a Joe in a wheelchair and calling him Chip Chase. Then theyll gloat how the wheelchair is an original mold like they did with the ape shell.

And people would still buy it.

By the way, no G.I. Joe, no Transformers. G.I. Joe lead to Henshin Cyborg and Microman, which lead to Diaclone, which in turn lead to The Transformers.

I appreciate G.I. Joe, I just don't buy that **** (excluding any Channing Tatum sculpt). And as you pointed out further down (or up from here), there is a decent amount of it… I view this crossover as having a niche market, so I feel like these figures are sort of wasted space/potential
IMO

Big fan?

mooncake623 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Yeah the amount of GI Joe being shoved down transformer fans throats by both the club and hasbro is starting to get disturbing. I can see the club slapping a Joe in a wheelchair and calling him Chip Chase. Then theyll gloat how the wheelchair is an original mold like they did with the ape shell.

And people would still buy it.

By the way, no G.I. Joe, no Transformers. G.I. Joe lead to Henshin Cyborg and Microman, which lead to Diaclone, which in turn lead to The Transformers.

I appreciate G.I. Joe, I just don't buy that **** (excluding any Channing Tatum sculpt). And as you pointed out further down (or up from here), there is a decent amount of it… I view this crossover as having a niche market, so I feel like these figures are sort of wasted space/potential
IMO

Big fan?

He's just hot

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I view this crossover as having a niche market,

The Club practically exists to cater to a niche market. Mainstream stuff is for mass retail Hasbro/Takara. We will never see this stuff (by which I mean Old Snake, Marissa, the synthoids, and Serpent O.R.) at mass retail, thus making the Club the only official venue for us to get them from.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Yeah the amount of GI Joe being shoved down transformer fans throats by both the club and hasbro is starting to get disturbing. I can see the club slapping a Joe in a wheelchair and calling him Chip Chase. Then theyll gloat how the wheelchair is an original mold like they did with the ape shell.

And people would still buy it.

By the way, no G.I. Joe, no Transformers. G.I. Joe lead to Henshin Cyborg and Microman, which lead to Diaclone, which in turn lead to The Transformers.

I appreciate G.I. Joe, I just don't buy that **** (excluding any Channing Tatum sculpt). And as you pointed out further down (or up from here), there is a decent amount of it… I view this crossover as having a niche market, so I feel like these figures are sort of wasted space/potential
IMO

Big fan?

He's just hot

Ha, I forgot he was in GI Joe... actually I forgot everything about the movies.. what was it about?... Please don't answer that I don't really care. =X

mooncake623 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Yeah the amount of GI Joe being shoved down transformer fans throats by both the club and hasbro is starting to get disturbing. I can see the club slapping a Joe in a wheelchair and calling him Chip Chase. Then theyll gloat how the wheelchair is an original mold like they did with the ape shell.

And people would still buy it.

By the way, no G.I. Joe, no Transformers. G.I. Joe lead to Henshin Cyborg and Microman, which lead to Diaclone, which in turn lead to The Transformers.

I appreciate G.I. Joe, I just don't buy that **** (excluding any Channing Tatum sculpt). And as you pointed out further down (or up from here), there is a decent amount of it… I view this crossover as having a niche market, so I feel like these figures are sort of wasted space/potential
IMO

Big fan?

He's just hot

Ha, I forgot he was in GI Joe... actually I forgot everything about the movies.. what was it about?... Please don't answer that I don't really care. =X

(spoilers) First it started, stuff happened, and then it ended, then people forgot about it

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I view this crossover as having a niche market,

The Club practically exists to cater to a niche market. Mainstream stuff is for mass retail Hasbro/Takara. We will never see this stuff (by which I mean Old Snake, Marissa, the synthoids, and Serpent O.R.) at mass retail, thus making the Club the only official venue for us to get them from.

That's cool, so do a couple. I feel like we're passed that now. I also don't view the Club as catering to only obscure fans... it should cater to everybody. Just anything Hasbro won't touch, which is practically everything. I'd rather get G2, BW/M, MW, and RID01 homeges before G.I. Joe. I'm part of the TransFormers Club for TransFormers. If I wanted G.I. Joe then I'd be a fan of that franchise.

Now I don't think it's out of control, but I think we've reached the point where they should move on. I feel comfortable saying most of us don't want a joint convention, crossover movie, or wasting TF slots on G.I. Joe toys

mooncake623 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Yeah the amount of GI Joe being shoved down transformer fans throats by both the club and hasbro is starting to get disturbing. I can see the club slapping a Joe in a wheelchair and calling him Chip Chase. Then theyll gloat how the wheelchair is an original mold like they did with the ape shell.

And people would still buy it.

By the way, no G.I. Joe, no Transformers. G.I. Joe lead to Henshin Cyborg and Microman, which lead to Diaclone, which in turn lead to The Transformers.

I appreciate G.I. Joe, I just don't buy that **** (excluding any Channing Tatum sculpt). And as you pointed out further down (or up from here), there is a decent amount of it… I view this crossover as having a niche market, so I feel like these figures are sort of wasted space/potential
IMO

Big fan?

He's just hot

Ha, I forgot he was in GI Joe... actually I forgot everything about the movies.. what was it about?... Please don't answer that I don't really care. =X

I seriously only watched it to see Channing Tatum shirtless I don't remember anything else

Edit: Oh, and Ray Park. Darth Maul, y'all...

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I view this crossover as having a niche market,

The Club practically exists to cater to a niche market. Mainstream stuff is for mass retail Hasbro/Takara. We will never see this stuff (by which I mean Old Snake, Marissa, the synthoids, and Serpent O.R.) at mass retail, thus making the Club the only official venue for us to get them from.

That's cool, so do a couple. I feel like we're passed that now. I also don't view the Club as catering to only obscure fans... it should cater to everybody. Just anything Hasbro won't touch, which is practically everything. I'd rather get G2, BW/M, MW, and RID01 homeges before G.I. Joe. I'm part of the TransFormers Club for TransFormers. If I wanted G.I. Joe then I'd be a fan of that franchise.

Now I don't think it's out of control, but I think we've reached the point where they should move on. I feel comfortable saying most of us don't want a joint convention, crossover movie, or wasting TF slots on G.I. Joe toys

Well, we have tarantulas, but he was the ONLY figure I had even remotely heard of, I seriously don't want to consult with Sabrblade every year, if I'm going to pay as much as they ask for these figures, just to figure out who the hell I'm buying. One of the reasons next years tfss appeals to me (beyond COMBINER )

I agree, I don't really want unused designs, unfinished prototype homages; I want pre-BW, oddball G1, G2 homages, updated micromaster figures, rid, armada Beast machine, energon and cybertron homages.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I view this crossover as having a niche market,

The Club practically exists to cater to a niche market. Mainstream stuff is for mass retail Hasbro/Takara. We will never see this stuff (by which I mean Old Snake, Marissa, the synthoids, and Serpent O.R.) at mass retail, thus making the Club the only official venue for us to get them from.

That's cool, so do a couple. I feel like we're passed that now. I also don't view the Club as catering to only obscure fans... it should cater to everybody. Just anything Hasbro won't touch, which is practically everything. I'd rather get G2, BW/M, MW, and RID01 homeges before G.I. Joe. I'm part of the TransFormers Club for TransFormers. If I wanted G.I. Joe then I'd be a fan of that franchise.

Now I don't think it's out of control, but I think we've reached the point where they should move on. I feel comfortable saying most of us don't want a joint convention, crossover movie, or wasting TF slots on G.I. Joe toys

Well, we have tarantulas, but he was the ONLY figure I had even remotely heard of, I seriously don't want to consult with Sabrblade every year, if I'm going to pay as much as they ask for these figures, just to figure out who the hell I'm buying. One of the reasons next years tfss appeals to me (beyond COMBINER )

I agree, I don't really want unused designs, unfinished prototype homages; I want pre-BW, oddball G1, G2 homages, updated micromaster figures, rid, armada Beast machine, energon and cybertron homages.

Boom. Agreed. There should definitely be both, but TFSS3 was ridiculous in its excessive obscurity

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I view this crossover as having a niche market,

The Club practically exists to cater to a niche market. Mainstream stuff is for mass retail Hasbro/Takara. We will never see this stuff (by which I mean Old Snake, Marissa, the synthoids, and Serpent O.R.) at mass retail, thus making the Club the only official venue for us to get them from.

That's cool, so do a couple. I feel like we're passed that now. I also don't view the Club as catering to only obscure fans... it should cater to everybody. Just anything Hasbro won't touch, which is practically everything. I'd rather get G2, BW/M, MW, and RID01 homeges before G.I. Joe. I'm part of the TransFormers Club for TransFormers. If I wanted G.I. Joe then I'd be a fan of that franchise.

Now I don't think it's out of control, but I think we've reached the point where they should move on. I feel comfortable saying most of us don't want a joint convention, crossover movie, or wasting TF slots on G.I. Joe toys

Well, we have tarantulas, but he was the ONLY figure I had even remotely heard of, I seriously don't want to consult with Sabrblade every year, if I'm going to pay as much as they ask for these figures, just to figure out who the hell I'm buying. One of the reasons next years tfss appeals to me (beyond COMBINER )

I agree, I don't really want unused designs, unfinished prototype homages; I want pre-BW, oddball G1, G2 homages, updated micromaster figures, rid, armada Beast machine, energon and cybertron homages.

Boom. Agreed. There should definitely be both, but TFSS3 was ridiculous in its excessive obscurity

I'm not against love-letter deeply obscure stuff, but maybe limit them to 1 or 2 per year, or make them available separately from the tfss; as for cross-overs, I think that they would work best as additional convention exclusives, but offer them at both g.i.joe-con and botcon, or sdcc.

Sabrblade wrote:People have been begging for this kind of stuff for years. Old Snake, Marissa Faireborn, the "Only Human" Autobot Synthoids... And now that we finally get these things after waiting 30 years... this reaction comes along.

This fandom, I swear.

Right there with you. I've waited thirty years for Marissa, and I will be damned if I can't get her in delicious action figure form.

After that, gimme Spike, Sparkplug, Carly... hell, Lennox and Epps, too! I want some good human figures, dammit!