Transformers Combiner Wars: Legends Rodimus In-Hand

Meh. Seems rather contrived to me. I'm curtain a better Rodimus than this can be produced.

I understand the context of which this figure is made for but i'm not too into it. Plus i think if he's just gonna be a chest shield the name Hot Rod would have been a more fitting name.

peaces wrote:no pics of him on menasor and prime's chests?

Forget that: who is he supposed to go with according to the packaging?

I'm disappointed at how lackluster these Legends repaints have been, especially given how the new molds have been near-consistently AMAZING! Cosmos, Powerglide, the Insecticons, they're the definitive versions; but Rodimus, Huffer, Warpath just don't cut it.

I might be tempted to get this to represent an updated version of Micromaster Hot Rodimus.

he goes with optimus maximus, the wave 4 white prime

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

peaces wrote:no pics of him on menasor and prime's chests?

Forget that: who is he supposed to go with according to the packaging?

Argh, why don't these people take pictures that really give a hint?

So far I have found these team colors (you can see the team color on the top strip of the card, and around the 1 of 5, and on the "Combine to form" sticker on the front of the bubble.)

YELLOW - Silverbolt, Air Raid, Alpha Bravo, Quickslinger, Skydive, Firefly, Powerglide
PURPLE - Motormaster, Dragstrip, Offroad, Brake-Neck, Dead End, Breakdown, Blackjack
TURQUOISE - Hotspot, Blades, First Aid, Rook, Streetwise, Groove
DARK BLUE - Viper, Cyclonus
SKY BLUE - Optimus Prime
LIGHT GREY - Rodimus

I like a good Hot Rod/Rodimus figure. This isn't one.

It isn't a bad figure; it just isn't a good Hot Rod. I think it would have worked better as Roadhandler (to juxtapose the Blackjack reference) or in yellow as Sparkplug. Heck, I would have settled for a second Legends version Bumblebee or Cliffjumper...or even paint it blue and call it Roller. But this just isn't Rodimus or Hot Rod.

Tresob wrote:It isn't a bad figure; it just isn't a good Hot Rod. I think it would have worked better as Roadhandler (to juxtapose the Blackjack reference

Roadhandler would have made more sense as you say opposite Blackjack, and the body and paintscheme look far more like him than a Rodimus should. Just needs the hood flame painted over in red, and a more Roadhandler-esque headsculpt from some other similar sized figure and you're done.

I like him. I'm gonna get him and hope Reprolables gives him chest flames.


And I'm pretty sure Hasbro can't call him Hot Rod cause of copyright/trademark/whatever reasons.

Yweggo wrote:And I'm pretty sure Hasbro can't call him Hot Rod cause of copyright/trademark/whatever reasons.

Trademark, and the "Hot Rod" name is in the firm hands of Mattel for their Hot Wheels line. So Hasbro can't use it at all, not even as "Autobot Hot Rod".

peaces wrote:he goes with optimus maximus, the wave 4 white prime

... which I'd like to see confirmed on the packaging

I believe "hot rod" is public domain and not trademarkable for a toy car, unlike Bumblebee, which is not a word or name you would typically associate with a car.

He looks nice...even if he is too small

I'm perfectly fine with this little re-purposed Roddy. He's not perfect, but it harkens back to the Star Convoy/Micromaster as already mentioned (which I love). Bring him on!

That Bot wrote:I believe "hot rod" is public domain and not trademarkable for a toy car, unlike Bumblebee, which is not a word or name you would typically associate with a car.

I agree. And if anything "Hot Rod" is a magazine thats been around since 1948 as per Wikipedia. You dont see them going around suing anybody who prints the word hot rod on their product. Hell, WWE has let Rowdy Roddy Piper use the alias "Hot Rod" on his shirts for the last 30 years. This whole trademark/copyright a word thing hasbro cries about is a bunch of BS. Theyre all just a bunch of legal wusses.

Rated X wrote:

That Bot wrote:I believe "hot rod" is public domain and not trademarkable for a toy car, unlike Bumblebee, which is not a word or name you would typically associate with a car.

I agree. And if anything "Hot Rod" is a magazine thats been around since 1948 as per Wikipedia. You dont see them going around suing anybody who prints the word hot rod on their product. Hell, WWE has let Rowdy Roddy Piper use the alias "Hot Rod" on his shirts for the last 30 years. This whole trademark/copyright a word thing hasbro cries about is a bunch of BS. Theyre all just a bunch of legal wusses.

TFWIKI wrote:Next to Bluestreak, "Hot Rod" is the most well-known case of a name unavailable to Hasbro. Mattel has registered various "confusingly similar" trademarks over the years, among them "Ho! Ho! Hot Rod", "Hot Rods" and "Hott Rodd". Hasbro's original substitute name for the Commemorative Series line of reissues was "Rodimus Major"; "Rodimus" was used for Energon and then later also for the Classics Deluxe toy and the Universe Legends toy; and the toy based on the Animated Rodimus Prime character was called "Rodimus Minor".

Mattel's to blame for this, and in the case of trademark disputes, the company with the most valid uses of said trademark retains the right to use it. Hasbro will not begin battles it knows it can't win.

In regards to Powerglides inclusion on Superion, I've current got PG filling duty as shoulder cannons, by plugging him onto Supes back and bending the cannon/engines over the shoulders.

I like lil Rodders just fine. Its a fun mold. I'm gonna pick him up and let him run amuck on my various shelves getting into all kinds of trouble.

Rated X wrote:

That Bot wrote:I believe "hot rod" is public domain and not trademarkable for a toy car, unlike Bumblebee, which is not a word or name you would typically associate with a car.

I agree. And if anything "Hot Rod" is a magazine thats been around since 1948 as per Wikipedia. You dont see them going around suing anybody who prints the word hot rod on their product. Hell, WWE has let Rowdy Roddy Piper use the alias "Hot Rod" on his shirts for the last 30 years. This whole trademark/copyright a word thing hasbro cries about is a bunch of BS. Theyre all just a bunch of legal wusses.

I'm kind of impressed that you managed to misinterpret me that badly. Also, trademarks for toys and games is different from other trademarkable areas. You can use Hot Rod in a magazine and on a t-shirt and it doesn't impact your ability to trademark it for a toy.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

TFWIKI wrote:Next to Bluestreak, "Hot Rod" is the most well-known case of a name unavailable to Hasbro. Mattel has registered various "confusingly similar" trademarks over the years, among them "Ho! Ho! Hot Rod", "Hot Rods" and "Hott Rodd". Hasbro's original substitute name for the Commemorative Series line of reissues was "Rodimus Major"; "Rodimus" was used for Energon and then later also for the Classics Deluxe toy and the Universe Legends toy; and the toy based on the Animated Rodimus Prime character was called "Rodimus Minor".

Mattel's to blame for this, and in the case of trademark disputes, the company with the most valid uses of said trademark retains the right to use it. Hasbro will not begin battles it knows it can't win.

And there we have it.

Eh, Combiner Wars Hot Rod doesn't look good to me. He's definitely a pass.

I wonder what other redecos/remolds are planned for this mold, because to me he really only works as Blackjack. I do like the look of Hot Rod in vehicle mode, however.

Autobot032 wrote:Eh, Combiner Wars Hot Rod doesn't look good to me. He's definitely a pass.

I wonder what other redecos/remolds are planned for this mold, because to me he really only works as Blackjack. I do like the look of Hot Rod in vehicle mode, however.

Well Takara is making a Runabout out of it, so it gives us an idea of what's possible.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Eh, Combiner Wars Hot Rod doesn't look good to me. He's definitely a pass.

I wonder what other redecos/remolds are planned for this mold, because to me he really only works as Blackjack. I do like the look of Hot Rod in vehicle mode, however.

Well Takara is making a Runabout out of it, so it gives us an idea of what's possible.

The originally intended character no less Hope we get a proper Ruckus out of Offroad.

Sabrblade wrote:I might be tempted to get this to represent an updated version of Micromaster Hot Rodimus.

Was thinking the same. But wouldn't the former legion sized Rodimus be a better fit? Mind that one does lack articulation.

Too much about this figure doesn't work, but just enough of it does! I'll curse myslef but will no doubt end up getting it. It'll get a paint overhaul though, and probably won't serve as anyone's chest piece.

That card though

anyone else look at that head and think without the painted on headcrest it would be a really good head for a legends ironhide?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Yweggo wrote:And I'm pretty sure Hasbro can't call him Hot Rod cause of copyright/trademark/whatever reasons.

Trademark, and the "Hot Rod" name is in the firm hands of Mattel for their Hot Wheels line. So Hasbro can't use it at all, not even as "Autobot Hot Rod".

I thought the reason had to do with some magazine called Hot Rod. I didn't realize Mattel had use Hot Rod in the Hot Wheels line, seems greedy of them.

Of course, all this naming nonsense seems to go back to when Hasbro got the Street Fighter 2 rights then Mattel was all you can't put out something called Ken.

SillySpringer wrote:

Burn wrote:Because Space Shuttles ... Blast Off?

I mean why was he a Combaticon? Are space shuttles combat vehicles?

Technically sorta they are, all shuttle pilots are USAF officers.

Has anyone else noticed that once again the Legends figures are available FAR sooner than their wave mates? I like that Roddy but wish Hasbro put another slit in so the fins can be up for robot mode, then again none of the Rodimi in this scale have had their fins up

I think he looks great and will serve a fun purpose in this new Scramble City universe this line is shaping up to be. I also believe this is another example of a "pre-tool". When I got Blackjack and saw his alt mode, it screamed HOTROD directly in my earhole. This repaint was premeditated.

Ha ha, boy was I intensely excited when those photos showed the spoiler/ax on his back, then horribly disappointed to see it was all trickery.

durroth wrote:anyone else look at that head and think without the painted on headcrest it would be a really good head for a legends ironhide?

I didn't even get a good look at the head. And what a fantastic and detailed sculpt it is.

It does give off an Ironhide vibe now that you mention it. I wonder if it would be possible to retool the shell to be more van like? I would think if so, then it would add a nice boxy chest to the figure.

EDIT: if anyone is still looking for Quickslinger or Brake-Neck, they are available on TRU.com

Quickinger

Brake-Neck

Might be old news, I don't go to TRU.com that often, but figured it wouldn't hurt to share.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Burn wrote:Because Space Shuttles ... Blast Off?

I mean why was he a Combaticon? Are space shuttles combat vehicles?

Technically sorta they are, all shuttle pilots are USAF officers.

Has anyone else noticed that once again the Legends figures are available FAR sooner than their wave mates? I like that Roddy but wish Hasbro put another slit in so the fins can be up for robot mode, then again none of the Rodimi in this scale have had their fins up

Also the Space Shuttle has carried military payloads into space

I love Blackjack and I thought I wasn't getting this but man it looks good.

Burn wrote:And that's the one thing I don't get.

Why is there so much hate towards Alpha Bravo, but people are perfectly fine with Powerglide being an Aerialbot, when he wasn't an Aerialbot back in the day?

I'm more then a few pages behind on this thread, so I am sure this question has long since been answered, debated, and moved on from by now... but I wished to dredge it back up for a moment to give my own personal answer.

Superion is made of five individual robots. In any version of Superion, Powerglide is not one of those five robots.

Where Alpha Bravo replaced one of the original five, Powerglide's being added to the Aerialbot roster is as an extra, supplemental member who is not at all necessary to form Superion. He can become an extra gun for Superion to hold. If Powerglide isn't around, Superion still has his own gun. So Powerglide is hardly essential.

Also, you can add Powerglide without having to take anyone else away. You can't say the same of Alpha Bravo. For him to be on the team, someone else had to go. And for me, personally, as someone who doesn't read comic books, and who knows the Aerialbots from the 80's cartoon and toy line, and as someone who's Transformers collection is mainly about recreating that with modern toys, I want a Superion who doesn't have any of the original members missing. Extra members? Sure, why not? But not if they come at the expense of an existing one.

Powerglide is a fun toy. And he works well in robot and vehicle mode. I probably won't even use his gun mode that often, or even likely keep him on the same shelf as the main Aerialbot team. He's currently on a shelf with other "1985 Autobots," and, of course, the original Aerialbots came out in '86.

I'm sure Alpha Bravo is a fun toy, too. If there weren't other options for Superion, I might have sucked it up and gotten him. If there weren't going to be other options to get the mold, I might also have gotten him. I do look forward to getting Blades. And for those that are more into the current comic continuity, I am very happy that we are both able to get the Superion we want.

But the fact of the matter is, I got Powerglide because I wanted Powerglide. His being able to form a gun for Superion is just a superfluous bonus. I'm not getting Alpha Bravo because I don't feel I need him. His being a helicopter has nothing to do with it. His not being Slingshot does.

Yotsuyasan wrote:

Burn wrote:And that's the one thing I don't get.

Why is there so much hate towards Alpha Bravo, but people are perfectly fine with Powerglide being an Aerialbot, when he wasn't an Aerialbot back in the day?

I'm more then a few pages behind on this thread, so I am sure this question has long since been answered, debated, and moved on from by now... but I wished to dredge it back up for a moment to give my own personal answer.

Superion is made of five individual robots. In any version of Superion, Powerglide is not one of those five robots.

Where Alpha Bravo replaced one of the original five, Powerglide's being added to the Aerialbot roster is as an extra, supplemental member who is not at all necessary to form Superion. He can become an extra gun for Superion to hold. If Powerglide isn't around, Superion still has his own gun. So Powerglide is hardly essential.

Also, you can add Powerglide without having to take anyone else away. You can't say the same of Alpha Bravo. For him to be on the team, someone else had to go. And for me, personally, as someone who doesn't read comic books, and who knows the Aerialbots from the 80's cartoon and toy line, and as someone who's Transformers collection is mainly about recreating that with modern toys, I want a Superion who doesn't have any of the original members missing. Extra members? Sure, why not? But not if they come at the expense of an existing one.

Powerglide is a fun toy. And he works well in robot and vehicle mode. I probably won't even use his gun mode that often, or even likely keep him on the same shelf as the main Aerialbot team. He's currently on a shelf with other "1985 Autobots," and, of course, the original Aerialbots came out in '86.

I'm sure Alpha Bravo is a fun toy, too. If there weren't other options for Superion, I might have sucked it up and gotten him. If there weren't going to be other options to get the mold, I might also have gotten him. I do look forward to getting Blades. And for those that are more into the current comic continuity, I am very happy that we are both able to get the Superion we want.

But the fact of the matter is, I got Powerglide because I wanted Powerglide. His being able to form a gun for Superion is just a superfluous bonus. I'm not getting Alpha Bravo because I don't feel I need him. His being a helicopter has nothing to do with it. His not being Slingshot does.

Aside from that, PG seems to be quite popular these past years given how many versions he got post G1.

G1 mini plane (Hasbro and Takara)
Classics (big @ss figure) x version 1,2,3 [white, red and red]
Bayverse PG (Hasbro and T/T)
Combinerwars version
TAV version

durroth wrote:anyone else look at that head and think without the painted on headcrest it would be a really good head for a legends ironhide?

They are releasing a deluxe Ironhide, but then again, they released Leader Thundercracker like, right after releasing Legends Thundercracker, in the same line.

I think he looks great. Possibly the best Hot Rod ever.

I wish they used that had fire Blackjack instead of the soulless faceplate and visor look.

I'm curious how tall he is. Is he close to scout size? A comparison pic would be nice.

Apologies if it's been said already, but BBTS has up individual preorders for the Autobot combiner wave.

Ironhide

Mirage

Prowl

Sunstreaker

Optimus

I still want Goldbug from the Blackjack mould. With a new head of course and maybe that nice gold plastic on the generations Goldfire/Bumblebee.

Who wants to see another shot of the mysterious Optimus Maximus?

shajaki wrote:Who wants to see another shot of the mysterious Optimus Maximus?

And there we have it confirmed:

1) The name refers to the combined form
2) The torso (Optimus Prime) is white

Where is that from, anyway?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shajaki wrote:Who wants to see another shot of the mysterious Optimus Maximus?

And there we have it confirmed:

1) The name refers to the combined form
2) The torso (Optimus Prime) is white

Where is that from, anyway?

From the same mister Victor Wong on Facebook that I got the in-hand Roddy pics from.

Not front page news, but a fun pic to include:

Haven't seen any of these yet. But our local walmart seems to have a lock on the wave1 voyagers - five optimus and five silverbolts - and the voyagers are all they ever put on the shelf... (shrug) Guess some other walmart is getting all the deluxes...

Shockwave7 wrote:Haven't seen any of these yet. But our local walmart seems to have a lock on the wave1 voyagers - five optimus and five silverbolts - and the voyagers are all they ever put on the shelf... (shrug) Guess some other walmart is getting all the deluxes...

These recent ones are wave 4 and arent sceduled to be in stores till probably early fall, or lae summer

We have individual product listings for Optimus Maximus and the 84 limbs. I can conclude one of the following:
Optimus Maximus is the name of both the white Prime redeco and the combined robot
Optimus Maximus is the name of the combined robot only and will be sold as a gift set

Option 1 is more likely.

That Bot wrote:We have individual product listings for Optimus Maximus and the 84 limbs. I can conclude one of the following:
Optimus Maximus is the name of both the white Prime redeco and the combined robot
Optimus Maximus is the name of the combined robot only and will be sold as a gift set

Option 1 is more likely.

He has 84 limbs?! By Primus purge it with fire!

Anyways in all seriousness I'd agree that they're lazy and it's the name for both, honestly thinking seeing as I bought the Prime I'll pass on the repaint, or is not a repaint but a totally unpainted figure?

Crimson Prime wrote:...seeing as I bought the Prime I'll pass on the repaint, or is not a repaint but a totally unpainted figure?

I'm in the same boat. An all (or mostly) white Optimus Prime is just kind of weird to me. I could understand if they were trying to pass him off as a Magnus, but they're not. (Hell, in this line, they gave Magnus his own mold for once!)

But an all white Prime? What is that? What is the point? Is there some reason in the comics for it, or did Hasbro just pull it out of their arses? To me, Prime should be more, well, crimson.

I already have the red and blue Optimus from that same mold, and I am quite looking forward to getting the '84-bot limbs to attach to him. This white one has to me, since it was first hinted at, seemed completely unnecessary. Even if you look at it as a matter of Hasbro wanting to get more reuses out of that mold, I am sure there is another truck character they could have turned it into.

But, ah well. No one is forcing me to buy it. I'll be happy with my red Prime and his '84 limbs.

If only white Prime was worth buying because maybe they'd fix the thigh gear joint or something.

Sadly, even though Motormaster came out pretty late in Malaysia, it doesn't have any fixes (I can't even tell you if Blackjack was fixed, because it never reached here, and Rodimus disappeared the very same day it appeared. I managed to snag his casemate, Skywarp, though.)

This mold would have worded so much better for any number of other characters. I don't think it works for Rodimus, and since it seems we've been waiting a while for an updated IDW inspired version of the character this figure is even more disappointing to me.

jogunwarrior wrote:This mold would have worded so much better for any number of other characters. I don't think it works for Rodimus, and since it seems we've been waiting a while for an updated IDW inspired version of the character this figure is even more disappointing to me.

But this isn't Hasbro telling us "here is the rodimus everyone wanted". I think its more Hasbro trying to have some fun with the scramble city concept and just putting a more popular and known deco on a toy which has a similar alt mode to rodimus (kinda like when they made Exellion out of Cybertron Hotshot) to make more out of the mold. I really dont think this is supposed to be anything more than that and I dont think it means Hasbro wont do a better rodimus sometime soon.

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