Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Optimus Maximus: Ironhide and Prowl Probably Confirmed

Hot rod is a re-paint of blackjack clearly on the chest. His flame hood is clearly there.

Has anyone noticed that Hasbro has been taking more and more ideas from 3rd party vendors? it's great for me because I can't afford $100+ individual toys but it's kind of sad that they are creating almost after they see the market is there. Predaking would be a must for me because he was so friggin awesome in the comics and cartoons, but the way the redecos are coming out it looks like Hasbro is going to create thier own new combiners and use every marketing tool available, I.e. Comics, apps, cartoons, to get us on board to buy. but I don't think the consumer market will be as excited once we get to the end of the combiner wars series if we get familiar names with all re-tools. They could be working on a combiner dinobot or predaking and THAT would get me salivating...

happylock wrote:Hot rod is a re-paint of blackjack clearly on the chest. His flame hood is clearly there.

We've seen the toy.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-generations-combiner-wars-rodimus-and-skywarp-revealed/32054/

picture time!
Slingshot:








Wildrider:






*insert combined mode at some later date*


Bonus shot:

Now I can recreate this scene:

I wouldn't be so sure about Streetwise/Dead End for Prowl. Look at how the front of the white limb is covering the knee instead hanging below it. Is that possible with Dead End?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I wouldn't be so sure about Streetwise/Dead End for Prowl. Look at how the front of the white limb is covering the knee instead hanging below it. Is that possible with Dead End?

I thought the same thing. If it were dead end we would have the front of the car flipped back.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I wouldn't be so sure about Streetwise/Dead End for Prowl. Look at how the front of the white limb is covering the knee instead hanging below it. Is that possible with Dead End?

I thought the same thing. If it were dead end we would have the front of the car flipped back.

I see two wheels just below the knee. The front wheels on Dead End flip down with the front end of the car.
ROOK!?!?


(thanks for the photo Logan79)

Found this online:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I wouldn't be so sure about Streetwise/Dead End for Prowl. Look at how the front of the white limb is covering the knee instead hanging below it. Is that possible with Dead End?

Looks to be just the torso-bot's lower thigh with its upper thigh covered by shadow and looking darker. No leg-bot's kibble can cover the knee like that when said knee is bent.

Quick question: has anyone seen the Wave 1 Deluxes with pack-in comic instead of the card? I'm curious to know if they are in the wild yet...

w1 with comic are not out

I just hope these all have extensive remolding. So far I can't really see getting a good-looking Mirage from Dragstrip.

Sigmus Prime wrote:I just hope these all have extensive remolding. So far I can't really see getting a good-looking Mirage from Dragstrip.

Why not? Unlike his G1 self, CW dragstrip does not have the 6 wheels making his alt mode more in line with Mirage's.

And last time we just got a redeco and it worked out great, now we'll have a different head to differentiate them even more

william-james88 wrote:

Sigmus Prime wrote:I just hope these all have extensive remolding. So far I can't really see getting a good-looking Mirage from Dragstrip.

Why not? Unlike his G1 self, CW dragstrip does not have the 6 wheels making his alt mode more in line with Mirage's.

And last time we just got a redeco and it worked out great, now we'll have a different head to differentiate them even more

Yeah, but that mold looks great as Dragstrip because it was already a fantastic mold.

The CW Dragstrip mold... well, I personally am not to fond of it. And as Mirage, it doesn't look good in my mind's eye.

Sigmus Prime wrote:I just hope these all have extensive remolding. So far I can't really see getting a good-looking Mirage from Dragstrip.

The way it's looking right now, there are no real signs of them getting new vehicle parts at all, just new heads, as they don't really need them. Plus, the design sketches for Ironhide and Ratchet/Prowl showed them using Offroad's and First Aid's vehicle shells, respectively.

Back to the white limb, this image shows a perfect comparison between the two best contenders for Prowl; Dead End and Breakdown:



Who wants to make a wager? Take note that Breakdown still has a potential 2nd vehicle shell.

Ugh these silly pointless autobot repaints. In all honesty ill end up buying them when I see them in walmart out of pure curiousity and bordem. Im wondering if there are any obscure characters that they can pass off as if they got new heads ? Anybody from G2 ? Micromasters maybe ?

Rated X wrote:Ugh these silly pointless autobot repaints. In all honesty ill end up buying them when I see them in walmart out of pure curiousity and bordem. Im wondering if there are any obscure characters that they can pass off as if they got new heads ? Anybody from G2 ? Micromasters maybe ?

We have Ruckus for Offroad... Maybe G2 Motormouth for Ironhide:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to the white limb, this image shows a perfect comparison between the two best contenders for Prowl; Dead End and Breakdown:

Who wants to make a wager?

Jelz, I forgot those front ends fold down like that. I like mine up for a knee pad effect. Judging by that picture you posted, you're on to something.
So, no wager out of me. I'm now paddling right beside you in your boat.

Rated X wrote:Ugh these silly pointless autobot repaints. In all honesty ill end up buying them when I see them in walmart out of pure curiousity and bordem. Im wondering if there are any obscure characters that they can pass off as if they got new heads ? Anybody from G2 ? Micromasters maybe ?

Its not pointless.



IDW is preparing to combine them together since as of this 4 of the members have been confirmed to be on Cybertron and Sunstreaker might be there to considering he is no longer on the lost light.



Plus this is probably a homage to masquerade yes there is only two of the members from that episode but the homage is there.

Great homage when only 2/5 of the same characters are used.

The Streetwise mold is pretty much very much scupted to be Prowl from below the head downward.

ThunderThruster wrote:Great homage when only 2/5 of the same characters are used.

Regardless its still a homage no matter how you think of it.

I'm really curious to see how this plays out! But c'mon, Hot Rod deserves more than to be a Legends class, somehow it feels like he's getting the short end of the stick for being a post-86 movie character
If it was just because of the spoiler he gets in vehicle mode, that's just lame, Bumblebee would've been a much better repaint choice!...did I really just say that?!?

Wave 3? i still haven't even seen wave 2 but to be fair, we got the first wave in late march, so...

MaverickPrime wrote:I'm really curious to see how this plays out! But c'mon, Hot Rod deserves more than to be a Legends class, somehow it feels like he's getting the short end of the stick for being a post-86 movie character
If it was just because of the spoiler he gets in vehicle mode, that's just lame, Bumblebee would've been a much better repaint choice!...did I really just say that?!?

Agreed.

I'm not really a fan of minibots in the first place... Powerglide just looks out of place with the rest of the jets. However, tradition means I can live with it. But making established leader type characters tiny?? That just doesn't look right at all.

Honestly, they should have had all the limbs be Prime and the 84 autos, maybe with bumblebee as a weapon or something... then release a Rodimus as a combiner body to 'take prime's place'. A combiner with flames on his chest could look pretty cool.

phantom1592 wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:I'm really curious to see how this plays out! But c'mon, Hot Rod deserves more than to be a Legends class, somehow it feels like he's getting the short end of the stick for being a post-86 movie character
If it was just because of the spoiler he gets in vehicle mode, that's just lame, Bumblebee would've been a much better repaint choice!...did I really just say that?!?

Agreed.

I'm not really a fan of minibots in the first place... Powerglide just looks out of place with the rest of the jets. However, tradition means I can live with it. But making established leader type characters tiny?? That just doesn't look right at all.

Honestly, they should have had all the limbs be Prime and the 84 autos, maybe with bumblebee as a weapon or something... then release a Rodimus as a combiner body to 'take prime's place'. A combiner with flames on his chest could look pretty cool.

Funny thing is, this isn't the first time that Hot Rod was canonically downsized:


Transformers Battlestars: Return Of Convoy Hot Rodimus (Reissue) Gallery

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Ugh these silly pointless autobot repaints. In all honesty ill end up buying them when I see them in walmart out of pure curiousity and bordem. Im wondering if there are any obscure characters that they can pass off as if they got new heads ? Anybody from G2 ? Micromasters maybe ?

Its not pointless.



IDW is preparing to combine them together since as of this 4 of the members have been confirmed to be on Cybertron and Sunstreaker might be there to considering he is no longer on the lost light.



Plus this is probably a homage to masquerade yes there is only two of the members from that episode but the homage is there.

You have it backwards, IDw has the 4some on Cybertron because Hasbro is sellling the repaints, not vice-versa.

And yes, Sunstreaker was there to see Mirage whenhe landed

I'm sorta with X. I might get Ironhide, since I do just t like the Univerziteta rse figs vhicle mode. I *might* get Prowl, but I am happy with HIS Universe and mines paint is still good. Sunstreaker is a no, and I'll skip Mirage specifocally tokeep my Mirage and Dragstrip figs different.

MaverickPrime wrote:I'm really curious to see how this plays out! But c'mon, Hot Rod deserves more than to be a Legends class, somehow it feels like he's getting the short end of the stick for being a post-86 movie character
If it was just because of the spoiler he gets in vehicle mode, that's just lame, Bumblebee would've been a much better repaint choice!...did I really just say that?!?

Or instead of Bumblebee, make it Sparkplug, Armada OP's little minicon buddy. He looks sorta Bee-ish anyway.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I wouldn't be so sure about Streetwise/Dead End for Prowl. Look at how the front of the white limb is covering the knee instead hanging below it. Is that possible with Dead End?

Looks to be just the torso-bot's lower thigh with its upper thigh covered by shadow and looking darker. No leg-bot's kibble can cover the knee like that when said knee is bent.

Looking at the picture I can see two wheels facing outward on an extended piece; like the front of the Dead End mold folded back. Breakdown is already being used for Sunstreaker so it's not that mold either. It's possible that the First Aid mold is being used and the hood kibble was photo shopped out for artistic effect.

Oh good. I need an Ironhide.

Eveyone has been saying that prowl will be a retool of deadend or breakdown but".............................










It may just be a new mold OH NO

Lsegall wrote:Eveyone has been saying that prowl will be a retool of deadend or breakdown but".............................










It may just be a new mold OH NO

Not that likely, but the chances are still present. A rule of thumb is that the closer we get to the end of year's worth of figures, the less new molds we get, to the point a wave is all redecos and retools (Thrilling 30's is an exception to this). It's not that we're scared of new molds, we're just expecting the worst and hoping for the best (something all of us should do IMO)
A new-mold Prowl would provide a firmer basis of Combiner Wars continuing into a 2nd year, with new molds and retools of earlier molds (left unused). Plus, wasn't there a supposed Smokescreen listing earlier?

We did get rook as a new mold butso far only 8 different molds altogether what I think they will do is 1 new mold a combiner

Still not a fan of this and I really don't want this in fiction at all so hopefully idw just ignore it (like hopefully they'll ignore combiner cyclonus). The only bot I want prowl to combine with is devestator. Yes, I like my prowls complicated and potentially antagonistic.

Also any word on if these would be wave 4 deluxe?

Is it wrong that I really want this white OP to be Thunderclash?

I want to see Onslaught repainted into Heatwave so we can have a new Nexus Maximus. They could use Airraid, Firefly, Alpha Bravo and Rook for the individual limbs unless we get a proper tank limb to be used instead of the Rook mould.

Fiddled a bit and aligned the pics.

I took your composite, Madeus, and tried to color balance/pull out some details.


Also, hello. This is my first post...

MelRains wrote:I took your composite, Madeus, and tried to color balance/pull out some details.


Also, hello. This is my first post...

Welcome! Are you new to collecting, or is this just your first time on this forum? Also to share my opinion on the autobot repaints, I think I'll get the limb bots but not white optimus, the combiner wars molds are awesome and I can't wait to see how they look as classic autobots.

Blast-Off? Please no.

Moosey wrote:Welcome! Are you new to collecting, or is this just your first time on this forum?

Thanks. I've been collecting for a little bit, kinda started with the classics line in '08, bu didn't get big into it until '12 when I realized the classics line continued in Universe and Generations. Been perusing the forums since last year and finally decided to join.

My two cents on the Autobot Repaints: I say bring 'em on. Hell, I'd be cool if they did the entire G1-iverse in the CW style.

whoops double post. I'll have to get used to this board system.....

MelRains wrote:whoops double post. I'll have to get used to this board system.....

Nah, it happens. Not your fault at all. Welcome!

I've been wanting to get some of these for my son's birthday in a couple of weeks. However, there still appears to be no Wave 2 Deluxe in MN...

MelRains wrote:I took your composite, Madeus, and tried to color balance/pull out some details.


Also, hello. This is my first post...

That now definitely looks like Streetwise's front end below the right knee

MelRains wrote:My two cents on the Autobot Repaints: I say bring 'em on. Hell, I'd be cool if they did the entire G1-iverse in the CW style.

As others have said already, welcome!

I've heard a lot of "without extensive retooling they won't be G1 enough" but I could really care less. I more than willing to make certain concessions, hell I'm happy with a simple repaint and new head

shajaki wrote:

MelRains wrote:My two cents on the Autobot Repaints: I say bring 'em on. Hell, I'd be cool if they did the entire G1-iverse in the CW style.

As others have said already, welcome!

I've heard a lot of "without extensive retooling they won't be G1 enough" but I could really care less. I more than willing to make certain concessions, hell I'm happy with a simple repaint and new head

It also definitely helps that the Combiner War molds are absolutely awesome! My only concern might be accessories, (I'd prefer Ironhide to have a gun rather than an axe) but that's an easy fix.

shajaki wrote:

MelRains wrote:My two cents on the Autobot Repaints: I say bring 'em on. Hell, I'd be cool if they did the entire G1-iverse in the CW style.

As others have said already, welcome!

I've heard a lot of "without extensive retooling they won't be G1 enough" but I could really care less. I more than willing to make certain concessions, hell I'm happy with a simple repaint and new head

Welcome MelRains, don't mind the bolts we have running around. We used to have a nuts problem, so we called in some bolts. Bad Idea...

To me, the Autobot retools should not be "G1", more like temporary alternate bodies.

shajaki wrote:

MelRains wrote:My two cents on the Autobot Repaints: I say bring 'em on. Hell, I'd be cool if they did the entire G1-iverse in the CW style.

As others have said already, welcome!

I've heard a lot of "without extensive retooling they won't be G1 enough" but I could really care less. I more than willing to make certain concessions, hell I'm happy with a simple repaint and new head

I collect a lot of G1, it will always be my pride and joy, but I can see the flaws in the design and engineering too, si as much as it pains me to say, to make them more G1 you'd also have to lock a bunch of the elbows, knees and ankles to remove all that G1 inaccurate articulation.

Aw, no one's given MelRains the traditional Seibertron welcome yet.

Sabrblade wrote:Aw, no one's given MelRains the traditional Seibertron welcome yet.

Welcome to Seibertron!







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So that's why I always get this allergic reaction when opening the website.